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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
December 04 2015 00:44 GMT
#1078
So basically you all have 3.25 hours with the great mind of fecalfeast before he goes home and accidentally plays fallout until 5am without making dinner.

I'm not going to read the thread from the start so someone make me do something because work is boring as fuck
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
December 04 2015 00:48 GMT
#1083
On December 04 2015 09:46 NocturneMage wrote:
The LS filter is trash but the main argument I'm reading is that could he have intentionally tried that? Someone was saying he was getting coaching from the mafia QT on that shit?

I think he has enough games he could pull it off?

Thank you!

Someone else who understand that a minute is a long time in the context of a shenanigan eod
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
December 04 2015 00:51 GMT
#1090
On December 04 2015 09:48 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2015 09:44 Fecalfeast wrote:
So basically you all have 3.25 hours with the great mind of fecalfeast before he goes home and accidentally plays fallout until 5am without making dinner.

I'm not going to read the thread from the start so someone make me do something because work is boring as fuck

Why you have to be lazy feast right now
+ Show Spoiler +
We had MD into DYH/Me as the main wagons until we shannied to Kush because of his over explanation for voting me lol....

[active game] took a lot of my energy and playing as town makes me less worried about doing enough work to look good lol

What do you think of the shenanigan? fidei/shining/palmar/hts were all early switchers with the first two being instigators. Have you weighed in on that?
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
December 04 2015 00:53 GMT
#1091
Actually this trfel shit is really bugging me but how on earth does someone produce a million pages of filter, multiple cases with references and then throw it all away based on night kill wifom as scum?

Am I not giving trfel enough credit?
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
December 04 2015 00:58 GMT
#1093
That's exactly the incoherent stream of consciousness I expected. carry on
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
December 04 2015 01:15 GMT
#1099
I replaced into one of these high effort games eh?
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
December 04 2015 01:32 GMT
#1112
I think fidei's passive 'switch to kush' wasn't actually trying to start shenanigans but the way he's playing it off now makes it suspicious. Like he says here (in the nested quote) that he didn't think people would follow him ontoi that shitty lynch. If it was shitty... Why was he there?

On December 04 2015 09:27 Fidei86 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2015 09:25 Fecalfeast wrote:
On December 04 2015 09:24 Fidei86 wrote:
Hey, I was surprised as everyone else that you all followed me into that shitty lynch. But technically Palmar was the first mover, I was just the first one to urge everyone to switch.

Why did I scowl so hard after reading this post?

That was weird

maybe because it sort of reads like I (a) say you all followed me into the lynch and (b) it actually wasn't my fault. I'm sort of trying to have my cake and eat it. You're right. I wasn't the first person to have the idea, but I probably was the one that caused it. I was wrong and I'm sorry.

Then this pandering to me when I call out the post, without actually voicing any concern. Fidei doesn't ask me to explain he knows he looks bad because he's thinking about his image. He even apologizes to me when I literally said nothing of value about his post.


The shining, I haven't read his filter tbh but he's got a decent tone in his recent posts that makes me think he's town but I skim a lot lol.

HTS was really pushing hard that you(LS) were town and switched to kush pretty easily from what I recall following the EoD before I replaced in. Another filter I'll have to look at.

OK so I only have strong feelings on fidei (scummy) right now I will check out HTS and shining
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
December 04 2015 01:32 GMT
#1113
On December 04 2015 10:32 Fecalfeast wrote:
I think fidei's passive 'switch to kush' wasn't actually trying to start shenanigans but the way he's playing it off now makes it suspicious. Like he says here (in the nested quote) that he didn't think people would follow him ontoi that shitty lynch. If it was shitty... Why was he there?

Show nested quote +
On December 04 2015 09:27 Fidei86 wrote:
On December 04 2015 09:25 Fecalfeast wrote:
On December 04 2015 09:24 Fidei86 wrote:
Hey, I was surprised as everyone else that you all followed me into that shitty lynch. But technically Palmar was the first mover, I was just the first one to urge everyone to switch.

Why did I scowl so hard after reading this post?

That was weird

maybe because it sort of reads like I (a) say you all followed me into the lynch and (b) it actually wasn't my fault. I'm sort of trying to have my cake and eat it. You're right. I wasn't the first person to have the idea, but I probably was the one that caused it. I was wrong and I'm sorry.

Then this pandering to me when I call out the post, without actually voicing any concern. Fidei doesn't ask me to explain he knows he looks bad because he's thinking about his image. He even apologizes to me when I literally said nothing of value about his post.


The shining, I haven't read his filter tbh but he's got a decent tone in his recent posts that makes me think he's town but I skim a lot lol.

HTS was really pushing hard that you(LS) were town and switched to kush pretty easily from what I recall following the EoD before I replaced in. Another filter I'll have to look at.

OK so I only have strong feelings on fidei (scummy) right now I will check out HTS and shining

This is in response to LS
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
December 04 2015 01:33 GMT
#1114
On December 04 2015 10:24 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2015 10:15 Fecalfeast wrote:
I replaced into one of these high effort games eh?


I don't think I can compete with Trfel.

This HtS thing is super confusing to me right now, so I was trying to find something in the EoD1.
Like Trfel is sending mixed signal, NocturneMage replaced into a super shady looking slot with some shady looking entry posts and the guy I have a scum read on (DYH) hesitates not a second to vote with NM... though after rereading DYH's case on HtS it isn't bad... which brings me to the next point: If I ignore HtS's sickness, she doesn't good either.

Can't even hope that Damdred comes in, drops three one liners, and drops some of his logic...

Btw, do you have a read on DYH?

not yet no
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
December 04 2015 01:36 GMT
#1118
On December 04 2015 10:34 The Shining wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2015 10:32 Fecalfeast wrote:
I think fidei's passive 'switch to kush' wasn't actually trying to start shenanigans but the way he's playing it off now makes it suspicious. Like he says here (in the nested quote) that he didn't think people would follow him ontoi that shitty lynch. If it was shitty... Why was he there?

On December 04 2015 09:27 Fidei86 wrote:
On December 04 2015 09:25 Fecalfeast wrote:
On December 04 2015 09:24 Fidei86 wrote:
Hey, I was surprised as everyone else that you all followed me into that shitty lynch. But technically Palmar was the first mover, I was just the first one to urge everyone to switch.

Why did I scowl so hard after reading this post?

That was weird

maybe because it sort of reads like I (a) say you all followed me into the lynch and (b) it actually wasn't my fault. I'm sort of trying to have my cake and eat it. You're right. I wasn't the first person to have the idea, but I probably was the one that caused it. I was wrong and I'm sorry.

Then this pandering to me when I call out the post, without actually voicing any concern. Fidei doesn't ask me to explain he knows he looks bad because he's thinking about his image. He even apologizes to me when I literally said nothing of value about his post.


The shining, I haven't read his filter tbh but he's got a decent tone in his recent posts that makes me think he's town but I skim a lot lol.

HTS was really pushing hard that you(LS) were town and switched to kush pretty easily from what I recall following the EoD before I replaced in. Another filter I'll have to look at.

OK so I only have strong feelings on fidei (scummy) right now I will check out HTS and shining


I think you had the same issues with Trfels d1, too. Did you definitely lean either way on him?

I'm not sure if I ever put a read in thread but I had him as strong town until his abandonment of his NM/moose read. I'm currently weighing the town feels I got from him against the scummy feels I'm getting from him. It's kinda like he realizes that NM is going to be a much harder sell than MD because NM is playing.

So was strong town, now ????????????????????
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
December 04 2015 20:29 GMT
#1311
deadline isn't today right?
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
December 04 2015 20:30 GMT
#1312
nope tomorrow ok I'll read slowly. I have like 150 posts to catch up on
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
December 04 2015 22:09 GMT
#1314
Lol i will be at work soon I'm kidding myself if i think I'm gonna do stuff when fallout is staring at me in the face
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
December 04 2015 23:12 GMT
#1328
Ok am at work what's up boys I see hts still hasn't popped up? Guess she gave up?

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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
December 04 2015 23:27 GMT
#1331
I think the fidei palmar interaction has palmar looking towny while fidei came out looking a little worse to me.

One thing I remember that I'll dig up is
On December 04 2015 22:59 Palmar wrote:
You're overthinking (possibly suspiciously?)

You said it best yourself, now we kill hts.

On December 04 2015 23:02 Fidei86 wrote:
Lets leave it there and see what everyone else has to say. Don't want to hijack the thread totally.

Which looks a little too much like he's trying to avoid palmar expanding further on his possible suspicions and/or not wanting to slip up and further those suspicions.

additionally I don't like this
On December 04 2015 22:00 Fidei86 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2015 21:50 Palmar wrote:
Also, if you can't figure out my alignment that's on you, not me. Town hero and eternal leader Damdred figured it out.

Wow you actually do have four pages of filter. Okay. But I do disagree with you viz you "being towny" enough. It's actually not. When you get mislynched its almost always 50% on the idiots who lynched you and 50% on you for being scummy town. That's a really important thing that lots of people forget as town.

this comes after fidei said "can we lynch you for not playing the game palmar?" and palmar retorted with his filter length. It looks like fidei saw a potential lynch option down the road and made a post without even checking palmar out. Could possibly indicate that fidei's not really reading since I remember at least seeing a number a palmar posts.

I was going to comment on a possible overexplanation by fidei on why he is ok lynching hts because hts is probably aware of NM's ability to read her since they're married iirc but that's getting a little wifomy even for me
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
December 04 2015 23:28 GMT
#1332
On December 05 2015 08:17 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2015 08:12 Fecalfeast wrote:
Ok am at work what's up boys I see hts still hasn't popped up? Guess she gave up?



Hmmm... I think her last post was at start of N1 when kush flipped? So possible. Currently looking at Fidei86's filter.
Any questions for me while I am around?
Have you looked at DYH, yet?

Right, no, on it chief.
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
December 04 2015 23:37 GMT
#1334
On December 05 2015 08:35 NocturneMage wrote:
Checking end of cycle or close to it...

Show nested quote +
On December 03 2015 06:44 Palmar wrote:
On December 03 2015 06:40 Trfel wrote:
Palmar, take a look at LightningStrike, but I'm not sure that I would trust Damdred.

If you avoid lynching MoosyDoosy because Damdred said so, I'll be extremely displeased.

No, it's more of an internal fight.

I have two conflicting goals and I don't know how to proceed.

1) I want to lynch useless shit people just because I don't want to play with them.

vs

2) I want to actually win the game so it's technically better to pray these baddies get shot or checked while trying to lynch mafia.

I do not believe your case for Moosy being mafia. I think it doesn't say much about his alignment. His filter is terrible, but it's not mafia terrible, at least not to me. It's just plain terrible.

I will, however, look at LS like damdy asked me to.


This post strikes me as towny, he is laying his agenda out there but then here he goes later:

Show nested quote +
On December 03 2015 07:54 Palmar wrote:
On December 03 2015 07:53 Rels wrote:
On December 03 2015 07:51 Palmar wrote:
On December 03 2015 07:10 Trfel wrote:
On December 03 2015 07:04 Palmar wrote:
Do people like... ever... build good cases anymore?
Palmar, you're not doing anything yourself, so you're going to have to stop this.

Remember in Mini Mafia Down Under 2? We had a really good case and push against Alakaslam and you ruined it for a policy lynch.

I realize that you're extremely talented and one of the best players on the site, but it's still possible that once in a while, someone else knows something that you don't (and just because they can't explain it well doesn't invalidate this). You don't need to attack me as well.

I know this??

That's exactly why, I know that currently I don't have a lot of good ideas, and damdred's idea looks like a decent one so I'm just gonna roll with that.

You said "DYH is a good lynch".
DYH made two posts since:
On December 03 2015 07:01 DoYouHas wrote:
Catching up now.

I can't see any scum motivation behind Trfel's hard defending of me. It doesn't even look like positioning for my flip is even really a possibility here. I was going after him, voted him, thread sentiment is against me. I'm an easy EASY person for scum trfel to keep the heat on. That he ran the other direction when there is no reason to as mafia is major town points in my book. Unvoting.

On December 03 2015 07:36 DoYouHas wrote:
Welp, if you don't have good scumreads, sheep the wagon of your townreads.

##Vote: LS

Thoughts ??

I also said I misread one of his posts.

I don't really care. LS is a fine lynch. DYH is being shit, but so are multiple other players.


So that post and "I have no good reason to call LS town, so fuck it" and then that follows into the post where he said that kushmasta scumreading LS for shitty meta (or similar) was overexplanation, and (1) I disagreed with the reason and (2) I can't understand his move to kush when kush echoed a reason that, given Palmar's previous comments about LS, should have IMO resonated with Palmar.

I cannot grasp at all between posts 728 and 738 why he switched the votes the way he did. that still looks really bad.

posts after list posts and deciding to lynch hts because of his read on me and the whole sexy filter thing just come off as lazy town, like he's taking some sort of shortcut without reading the filter.

then palmar says the overthinking possibly suspiciously? I don't understand where there was a basis to suggest Fidei's last response as possibly mafia motivated.

overall, tough call. end of cycle voting looks really bad but looking hard at timestamps when he switched (2 minutes) he could have flubbed because he might have been lazy. I disagree that his progression is easy to follow though.

Hm I didn't think of the bolded from that angle.
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
December 05 2015 01:06 GMT
#1346
On December 04 2015 10:51 disformation wrote:
Too make my argument a bit more readable:
  1. scum is hiding in the middleground
    + Show Spoiler +
    On December 02 2015 08:30 DoYouHas wrote:
    I don't like a lot about Trfel right now. I don't like that he made a mountain out of a molehill with Damdred and did a snap OMGUS. I don't like how he is sliding between sheeping Palmar and Rels. I don't like how he is complaining that Damdred won't work with him, which should not matter unless his read did a 180 and he is confident Damdred is town, and I really don't like this:

    Show nested quote +
    On December 02 2015 02:24 Trfel wrote:
    I realized that DoYouHas' activity fits a mafia motivation fairly strongly, assuming that Damdred is town. And still fits somewhat if Damdred is mafia.

    A strong scumread on me with no explanation, even when pressed. Maybe he just doesn't have a good explanation at this point. Side note, he complains that Damdred won't work with him but refuses to work with Damdred when he gets pressed on his reasoning for attacking me.

    The conciliatory nature of some of Trfels posts gave me pause since he was so bullheaded with his scumgame last time but I would definitely put him top of my list at the moment.

    I get the town feels from a lot of the movers and shakers this game which makes me think that scum are hiding in the middle ground, so that is where I'm going to look next.

    P.S. I wasn't trying excuse a lack of posting. I was pointing out that there are large stretches of time where I cannot post. People seemed to be jumping on the wagon simply because I was afk.

  2. Was reading the middleground ppl (Fid,HtS,LS,disfo), but haven't got anything out of it
    + Show Spoiler +
    On December 02 2015 14:14 DoYouHas wrote:
    Well reading the filters of my middleground group (Fid, HtS, LS, disfo) was significantly less productive than I had hoped.

    Gnight folks

    @LS - I would like to hear your feelings towards Palmar, Damdred, and Rels.

  3. "Got no scumreads" (really?) "so i am sheeping town" "btw disfo totally town now"
    + Show Spoiler +
    On December 03 2015 07:36 DoYouHas wrote:
    Welp, if you don't have good scumreads, sheep the wagon of your townreads.

    ##Vote: LS
    On December 03 2015 07:56 DoYouHas wrote:
    What do you want from me Rels? I don't have good scumreads after dropping trfel. I sheep the wagon of 3 of my townreads in Damdred, disfo, and Palmar. It is what it is.



Wat?
I have pointed this problem out, Rels has pointed this out, but nothing happens.

can you flesh out why you think this progression is scummy any further? I'm looking at this filter and while it's a little short on portion size it's looking pretty well explained. Not to mention the fact that if HTS flips red here the fact remains that he brought her up as a potential target before NM
+ Show Spoiler +
On December 03 2015 11:08 NocturneMage wrote:
hts is a sleazeball as mafia, I love her to death, but I'll pretty much know immediately if she's mafia because I obviously know her in real life and if she's out of bounds with her personality, she is almost certainly mafia. obviously if I think she's mafia, I will case her in a way that doesn't require you to know her in real life. unless her dota friends want to argue they have some feels on her from external behaviour. rels, fidei? I'm looking at you two.

although seeing doyouhas' post, if hts got someone lynched who was scumreading her, that is a major red flag in my book. that is routine mafia play for her. dani as mafia will absolutely push the lynches of the people who want her dead. so dyh, what was her role in the lynch?
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
December 05 2015 01:07 GMT
#1347
lol trfel "for rels and disform" (let me talk shit about fecalfeast but not really mention why he could be scum.)

Classic stuff, save me as a 'maybe' until later
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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
December 05 2015 01:13 GMT
#1349
yo LS you were sad that I brushed you off before what've you got for me
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