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kitaman27
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On November 05 2015 04:53 Xatalos wrote:
Not all. I did scumread you, for example, and shockeyy/Rels were pushing into scum territory.
I don't remember finding anything on shockeyy and Rels you had a townie sounding null at the time. I acknowledge that it changed later on.
On November 05 2015 04:53 Xatalos wrote:
I did admit that Superbia wasn't as engaged back then as I had thought earlier, and that most of his posts being directed at me may have blinded me a bit. Besides I was mostly talking about the quantity of his engagement, not how many people it was directed to.
Noted.
On November 05 2015 04:53 Xatalos wrote:
If you looked at my meta, you'd see that I'm pretty clearly town already. What you've brought is pretty much either misrepresented or not indicative of anything, such as me being wrong on some small detail...
Whenever possible I try to avoid meta arguments because it relies on that player not being aware of their town tendencies. Otherwise you could simply emulate them as mafia. Here you certainly are aware because you suggest that your meta makes you clearly town. It wouldn't be fair to assume that you're terrible at mafia.
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kitaman27
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On November 05 2015 05:32 ShoCkeyy wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2015 05:26 kitaman27 wrote:On November 05 2015 02:11 ShoCkeyy wrote:
I also don't need to place myself on my own team if I'm confident on who is town. Back to work. The problem that I have here is that you said you would pass every combination except the xat + rayn combo. rayn really seems to be the player you were most suspicious of on day one, yet you sent it through. Also, don't get discouraged by everyone scum reading you if you are indeed town. People are going to reject pretty much anything you say if the hive mind is against you. Just keep trucking and maybe it will help sometime down the road  The reason I passed it was because if a sabotage happened on the first mission, then that can just fuel the suspicion even more and more people would start to see what I'm talking about. Also, Idc if people scum read me, I've been playing TL Mafia since the mafia forums first opened ;p
Maybe you explained this and I just didn't interpret it correctly, but you could explain one more time why you would have voted this way:
hts/kita/rayn = pass
hts/kita/xat = pass
hts/rayn/xat = fail
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kitaman27
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On November 05 2015 07:17 Rels wrote:
This game: 11 pages in almost a phase
OK I think it's pretty clear. p:
Sample size seems large enough to make this a decent observation.
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kitaman27
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On November 05 2015 07:32 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2015 07:26 kitaman27 wrote:On November 05 2015 07:17 Rels wrote:
This game: 11 pages in almost a phase
OK I think it's pretty clear. p: Sample size seems large enough to make this a decent observation. Man everything you say sounds sooooo scientific. I think you do stats for a living right ?
No, but I play one on tv.
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kitaman27
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On November 05 2015 07:57 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2015 07:54 kitaman27 wrote:On November 05 2015 07:32 Rels wrote:On November 05 2015 07:26 kitaman27 wrote:On November 05 2015 07:17 Rels wrote:
This game: 11 pages in almost a phase
OK I think it's pretty clear. p: Sample size seems large enough to make this a decent observation. Man everything you say sounds sooooo scientific. I think you do stats for a living right ? No, but I play one on tv. What ?
+ Show Spoiler +
You got to keep up on your 80's cough syrup commercial references!
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kitaman27
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lol this game is really going to drag on isn't it. Two down, twenty three to go. XD
Need to play hangman or something.
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kitaman27
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On November 05 2015 08:22 Half the Sky wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2015 23:46 kitaman27 wrote:On November 04 2015 23:42 Rels wrote:On November 04 2015 20:12 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Since this worked so well for me last time I'm gonna go and do it again. Reads of X on Y below: ![[image loading]](http://puu.sh/l8XDS/c5b4b0ac75.png) Things of note after I went through the filters: -Superbia doesn't have many opinions at all. I don't like it. He was honed into one thing and one thing alone for a while and didn't really come to anything from it. -I actually came off with a pretty strong townread on sl from it, which I was surprised by. He seems very open and aggressive in his posting which I didn't get from him when he was scum. Seems to actually be trying to do stuff. -Surprised so many people scumread Rels still. He seems really active to me and pushing things. Can people explain this? -Still actually kinda leaning scum on HtS. She seems highly defensive, and in hindsight I still don't really like how she mentioned how I didn't have much time, yet still tried to push a fear read based on not doing much. Also, Rayn should be on whichever next mission. I also find it odd that shockeyy's actually suspicious of him, I'm not sure that's actually a good play as mafia to do but eh. Could be newbie scum I suppose. That is awesome! Thanks for that, that will be useful later. You're probably town for this effort too. Even though the last game he is referring to with this chart was how he tricked people to trust him as mafia? Kita, what game do you mean?
That ship has sailed. He was actually town. Was curious if someone would take a look at the game to draw conclusions and say something along the lines of "wait a minute, Artanis was actually town that game!" for free town points. Probably a long shot anyways.
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kitaman27
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On November 05 2015 08:41 Half the Sky wrote:
Aiming for until 12:30am or so... (another 45m) so if anyone wants to talk, please do.
You don't need give details or anything, but where would you everyone one through nine in terms of trustworthiness?
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kitaman27
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On November 05 2015 08:09 sicklucker wrote:
super likely mafia. Im positive he has no reason to scum read me he just needs an excuse not to vote the all town team
On November 05 2015 09:08 sicklucker wrote:
oh i liked the xatalos filter thing. i think we should pass this its very likely 3 towns from my pov
Since this post infers that you didn't see the xatalos analysis until now....why does super need an excuse to reject the SL/xat/rayn team if you thought xat was scum?
Wouldn't a scum super be happy to pass the team you thought had a spy in it?
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kitaman27
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On November 05 2015 09:40 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2015 09:13 kitaman27 wrote:On November 05 2015 08:09 sicklucker wrote:
super likely mafia. Im positive he has no reason to scum read me he just needs an excuse not to vote the all town team On November 05 2015 09:08 sicklucker wrote:
oh i liked the xatalos filter thing. i think we should pass this its very likely 3 towns from my pov Since this post infers that you didn't see the xatalos analysis until now....why does super need an excuse to reject the SL/xat/rayn team if you thought xat was scum? Wouldn't a scum super be happy to pass the team you thought had a spy in it? WHY would scum want a all town team to pass?
You called xata scum though at that point. So it wasn't an all town team from your perspective. Yet you scum read him for wanting to reject it anyways.
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kitaman27
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On November 05 2015 10:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Again drunk. ..
Kita if you are town youre so bad.
This really shouldn't come to you as a surprise by now 
On October 03 2013 22:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
wtf kitaman? are you fucking dumb?
On March 31 2014 03:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
For someone who is supposed to be good at this game you say a lot of stupid stuff kita.
On April 04 2014 09:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
we can kill kita because he is either mafia or terrible and should not be allowed to play because of badness.
kthxbye
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kitaman27
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On November 05 2015 18:36 sicklucker wrote:
when i said the team is all town i ment me/rayn/artanis there..
On November 05 2015 08:03 Superbia wrote:
This one is probably going to get rejected straight out bc there's a good chance SL will just continue to lurk. =/ Artanis would've gotten some votes.
On November 05 2015 08:09 sicklucker wrote:
super likely mafia. Im positive he has no reason to scum read me he just needs an excuse not to vote the all town team
So these were the posts that came within 6 minutes of each other. Super said the team would get rejected with SL, but Artanis would have gotten votes instead.
Now how could you think the team was SL/rayn/artanis if super is stating that artanis should have been included in the same exact post that you respond that he is scum?
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kitaman27
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On November 06 2015 01:33 JudgeJudy wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2015 23:58 ShoCkeyy wrote:
The lineup when I voted was HtS, Xata and Kita, which I was perfectly fine with. When was there ever a HTS/Xata/Kita line up for you to vote for? I'm confused what you are referencing here.
TL just needs to disable my post button so I'm forced to use preview.
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kitaman27
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So rayn, I'm trying to understand your read on SL.
Your two main points initially were
1) That he would bus as a spy.
+ Show Spoiler +On November 03 2015 21:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:SL would bus (lol). Basically as scum you want to look as town as possible and bussing is definitely not out of question, since you only need one scum onto a mission. If you, from the beginning, cut your own chances of getting to missions as scum, you basically just lose the game. And i still think SL would just bus. On November 04 2015 13:08 sicklucker wrote:
unless someone can come up with evidence that shockey knew votes would be revealed he should never ever ever be on a mission
One of the first things he does was explain that your strongest mafia read shockeyy should never ever be on a mission.
2) That he doesn't have a scum agenda.
+ Show Spoiler +On November 03 2015 19:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
It basically has to do with me not seeing him playing towards anything.. ugh... idk it is hard to explain, i don't see him having scum agenda, or anything like that behind his posting. Same basically goes to sicklucker. On November 05 2015 09:10 sicklucker wrote:
like me not voting for ANY TEAM that does not include me On November 05 2015 09:46 sicklucker wrote:
like i would never put up a team that didnt include me On November 04 2015 19:44 sicklucker wrote:
gonna veto any xatalos unless its like me and rayn On November 05 2015 08:09 sicklucker wrote:
super likely mafia. Im positive he has no reason to scum read me On November 05 2015 09:11 sicklucker wrote:
im in hero pick phrase. im cooler with xata now.
Essentially his strategy this game is to veto any team that doesn't include himself, attack the players that suspect him, unless his mafia read actually nominates him, then he is fine with passing the team. Why isn't this a mafia agenda?
The explanation that scummy people think SL is spy, therefore he is town doesn't mean a lot considering in the first quote you say how busing isn't out of the question because you only need one spy.
Doesn't the reasoning you gave point to the opposite conclusion?
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kitaman27
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On November 06 2015 03:21 Xatalos wrote:
Dunno about that bus thing, but isn't it a quite restrictive scum strategy to only approve teams that you're a part of?
Well it's the strategy I used as spy in Resistance 2.
On February 22 2012 05:10 kitaman27 wrote:
I sent my nay vote in as well. Doesn't make much sense to me to support a team where I'm not a part of on day one.
On February 22 2012 05:16 kitaman27 wrote:
I don't mind drawing out the voting a while if it gives us the best chance of winning.
Not saying it's a good strategy or anything, but it was exactly the policy I pushed myself.
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kitaman27
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Hmm interesting.
Also, we have to submit mission 2 before finding out if mission 1 passes? Never seen a game work that way.
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kitaman27
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On November 06 2015 08:04 Half the Sky wrote:
I'm thinking Artanis should nominate himself, rayn and Xatalos. That is my first impression.
We'd be up to four for the next mission.
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kitaman27
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On November 06 2015 01:49 kitaman27 wrote:So rayn, I'm trying to understand your read on SL. Your two main points initially were 1) That he would bus as a spy. + Show Spoiler +On November 03 2015 21:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:SL would bus (lol). Basically as scum you want to look as town as possible and bussing is definitely not out of question, since you only need one scum onto a mission. If you, from the beginning, cut your own chances of getting to missions as scum, you basically just lose the game. And i still think SL would just bus. On November 04 2015 13:08 sicklucker wrote:
unless someone can come up with evidence that shockey knew votes would be revealed he should never ever ever be on a mission One of the first things he does was explain that your strongest mafia read shockeyy should never ever be on a mission. 2) That he doesn't have a scum agenda. + Show Spoiler +On November 03 2015 19:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
It basically has to do with me not seeing him playing towards anything.. ugh... idk it is hard to explain, i don't see him having scum agenda, or anything like that behind his posting. Same basically goes to sicklucker. On November 05 2015 09:10 sicklucker wrote:
like me not voting for ANY TEAM that does not include me On November 05 2015 09:46 sicklucker wrote:
like i would never put up a team that didnt include me On November 04 2015 19:44 sicklucker wrote:
gonna veto any xatalos unless its like me and rayn On November 05 2015 08:09 sicklucker wrote:
super likely mafia. Im positive he has no reason to scum read me On November 05 2015 09:11 sicklucker wrote:
im in hero pick phrase. im cooler with xata now. Essentially his strategy this game is to veto any team that doesn't include himself, attack the players that suspect him, unless his mafia read actually nominates him, then he is fine with passing the team. Why isn't this a mafia agenda? The explanation that scummy people think SL is spy, therefore he is town doesn't mean a lot considering in the first quote you say how busing isn't out of the question because you only need one spy. Doesn't the reasoning you gave point to the opposite conclusion?
rayn you never responded to my question.
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kitaman27
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On November 06 2015 08:17 Half the Sky wrote:
Actually I should be asking Kita this same question. Kita, why?
Both SL and Xata were in my bottom three, though them both being spies doesn't make a ton of sense.
Gotta rethink who out of the three would be the bad guy.
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