EPT[T][M] Resistance V - Section 31
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Penultimate leader checking in. | ||
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On November 02 2015 09:06 Xatalos wrote: kita, did you get anything out of our furious exchange just now? I'd say people stating that they are happy that they didn't roll mafia typically increases their chances of being mafia, though I don't know if that actually holds true. Super stating that his read will be based on how you interact with others and you proceeding to go out of your way to interact with me could be interpreted as you trying to influence his views. Neither of these points lead to more than a "meh" Does anyone know if one faction typically wins more often than the other in a standard resistance setup or is it pretty close to 50/50? I'm not all that familiar with how the games usually play out myself. Right now I'm toying with a rng scenarios to see how they play out. | ||
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The reason I ran through these numbers was to decide whether or not we should enforce a policy that the leader cannot nominate themselves. Allowing the spy to nominate themselves gives them a free pass for a tainted group, while not allowing a self-nomination forces them to select a teammate. I don't think the advantage of removing spy self-nominations would be worth the trade off of dropping the resistance leader success rate in half so I would encourage resistance leaders to not try anything fancy and exclude themselves. Do others agree? | ||
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On November 02 2015 15:45 raynpelikoneet wrote: kitaman: Do you argee or disgree with the statement that if i am town the best play would be to reject the first three teams regardless of the first three player's alignments? If everyone did that, then we would never be able to pass a mission so you can't publicly push that policy. Privately, I'd probably consider it in your position if there were legitimate reasons to distrust the first three, though not regardless of their alignments. | ||
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On November 02 2015 17:29 Rels wrote: Weird that it took kita 1 hour to answer this question, which was asked to him only a few minutes after his opening post. Weird that you imply I was carefully crafting a response for 1 hour, rather than simply responding once I returned to read the thread. Though I do wonder to myself why a spy Rels would attack me for such a ticky tack point. I'd expect a spy to push something along the lines of "kita isn't contributing what I would expect from his town play", rather than trying to paint me in a bad light from the start. On November 02 2015 18:21 raynpelikoneet wrote: kitaman because he is talking about setup which is a big no-no in this game unless you are scum and want to give advice to your teammates, like "this is something i would not recommend to do". Well the goal was indeed to give advice for my teammates. You don't need to automatically conclude that the advice was spy motivated. 36% success to 18% success is a significant drop off. | ||
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On November 02 2015 23:44 Half the Sky wrote: I know you don't/can't play often, but I still have a decent memory of what to expect from a town Kita...and right now I'm not seeing a town Kita. On November 02 2015 23:46 kitaman27 wrote: I'd expect a spy to push something along the lines of "kita isn't contributing what I would expect from his town play", rather than trying to paint me in a bad light from the start. lolol I swear I didn't read your response before posting this. 1 down! :D | ||
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Finish....Finnish...triple no. Noted. | ||
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On November 02 2015 23:52 raynpelikoneet wrote: The problem is that is actually bad advice. rayn trying to trap me into talking about setup more. NOT FALLING FOR IT! | ||
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On November 02 2015 20:41 Superbia wrote: 2. It downplays scum. 2 is super weird from a town perspective, and leans me more towards mafia. Regardless I feel like commenting on how "weak" mafia is is mafia indicative as it sets up for a lax game. This seems like quite the over analysis for an intro one-liner. There doesn't have to be spy motivation in every post. Why conclude that he is somehow pushing an agenda where it benefits him to trick town into thinking the spies will get steam rolled. On November 02 2015 20:41 Superbia wrote: I feel like if you were town and believed this you would've focused on the strength of town, rather than the weakness of mafia, and as a result, would've said something along the lines of "mafia gonna get #rekt #noqt" (or something less trolly) Really a stretch here. More speculation without basis than anything. | ||
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On November 03 2015 00:13 raynpelikoneet wrote: Probably not. I don't actually fake emotion as mafia. Do you find Rels would be so antagonistic against you, the person pushing discussion in the thread, on day one as spy? Making firm conclusions like "rayn leaving the thread as soon as he's being pushed is scum indicative. Please don't include him in a team.". | ||
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On November 02 2015 20:41 Superbia wrote: Xat&rest- Xat's initial post set me off. Saying something like "this is a nightmare for scum" has two results (from writer POV): 1. It distances you from "scum". 2. It downplays scum. 1. Is NAI. 2 is super weird from a town perspective, and leans me more towards mafia. I feel like if you were town and believed this you would've focused on the strength of town, rather than the weakness of mafia, and as a result, would've said something along the lines of "mafia gonna get #rekt #noqt" (or something less trolly). Regardless I feel like commenting on how "weak" mafia is is mafia indicative as it sets up for a lax game. Now I already had a very real suspicion that you knew that this set up is not a "nightmare" for scum, as you have played resistance(/avalon) before (noted by you correctly associating my merlin comment with avalon). So that double begs the question why you felt the need to point out that mafia was "weak". I also understand that there is no resolving this situation regardless of your alignment. We can't talk this shit out- since it my suspicion and your possibly-innocent post. I am going, however, going to be suspicious of you. Unfairly? Maybe. But we'll see how your day plays out. So far I don't really like how you've been soft-pushing my push on you. But that may be biased of me. @HTS what is your opinion on this post? What is the purpose of returning to the thread with this over-explanation when he already admitted that the line of questioning was a dead end. @rayn, you felt that his push on xat was town motivated when it occurred initially. I agreed with you at that time since pushing a player to generate discussion is generally town-motivated. However, do you feel this explanation is legit? | ||
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On November 03 2015 01:01 Xatalos wrote: Yeah, HTS/rayn/Xata could work... HTS has seemed pretty focused on solving the game How do you differentiate HTS solving the game as town from HTS setting herself up as a likely nomination as spy by bringing along active players? Were there certain posts that you can point me to that suggest she is analyzing things from only a town perspective? | ||
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On November 03 2015 01:08 kitaman27 wrote: How do you differentiate HTS solving the game as town from HTS setting herself up as a likely nomination as spy by bringing along active players? Were there certain posts that you can point me to that suggest she is analyzing things from only a town perspective? Actually similar question for HTS regarding super. What about his play makes you think that he is town, rather than a mafia player who realizes the benefit of putting a player on the defensive early? Was there something in particular that stood out that was alignment indicative? | ||
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On November 03 2015 01:20 JudgeJudy wrote: For the record, I'm in favor of nominating Me, Myself & Irene. Gah, stupid second browser login XD | ||
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On November 03 2015 01:50 Half the Sky wrote: not knowing what teams are going to pass makes this doubly difficult. Whether or not you have thread support for your team to pass isn't all that relevant in my opinion. The margin for error is small enough that sacrificing a top three town read from your group to compromise with popular opinion isn't really a priority, especially with you picking from the first slot. | ||
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On November 03 2015 01:55 ShoCkeyy wrote: That's fine, I'm not pushing to be on the team, I don't need to. I already know that what ever team I'm on, there is a 33% chance of it succeeding. Why not push to be on a team? 18% chance of succeeding on a team you aren't part of, right? | ||
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On November 03 2015 01:52 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I skimmed through the thread. I'll check it out. Which of my posts led you to the conclusion that I'm scummy if you didn't happen to read that one? | ||
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