On November 02 2015 19:15 Rels wrote:
rayn leaving the thread as soon as he's being pushed is scum indicative. Please don't include him in a team.

It's not. I just refuse to argue with stupidity, which is what your "case" is.

raynpelikoneet

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November 02 2015 10:22 GMT

#254

yes. i checked the three games i knew it was one of them.

raynpelikoneet

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November 02 2015 10:24 GMT

#255

Okay this is the last thing i will say here.

You literally made this case; "metawise rayn is scum here because he thinks doing X is stupid but here he does X himself. I don't really remember nor can find where he did X, but unless he proves he did not do X in that other game he is still scum."

And you can't see that there is something wrong with this? Really?

raynpelikoneet

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November 02 2015 11:29 GMT

#267

On November 02 2015 19:55 Xatalos wrote:
So I'm just a bit confused at the townread.

I just felt like it was a needlessly aggressive attack for something non-telling. Basically, scumreading me for the sake of scumreading me. Can't say I like the way he went about it.

Ehh... why does he do that as mafia?

raynpelikoneet

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November 02 2015 11:44 GMT

#271

On November 02 2015 20:38 Xatalos wrote:

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To cast suspicion on me and remove me from teams maybe?

Why would he make me a "long-term scumread" (implying it won't change no matter what I do) based on one pretty neutral post as town?

Because people say stuff too hastily. You also do that, i do that. Many people do that.
That doesn't change the fact that it's easy to see where he is coming from if you think about it from his perspective.

raynpelikoneet

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November 02 2015 11:47 GMT

#272

Superbia FYI Xatalos has not played forum Resistance.

raynpelikoneet

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November 02 2015 11:57 GMT

#279

On November 02 2015 20:52 Superbia wrote:

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...That makes me slightly more suspicious rofl. But whatever, I have concluded that you are likely town, and that Xat may be town too. Partially due to me trusting your read a little, and partially because of how he's mentally (i.e. logically) handling my push.

Actually Xat was town in the vanilla mafia game too right? The one in which he died n3 or whatever (I've half-followed it)? And where they lynched scum on d3 only? If so that gives him some town-points this game so far.

Well it is a fact that forum Resistance is harder for scum than IRL/voice is just for the fact that here you can actually go back and look at the stuff people have said to confirm certain things, you don't have to remember everything. That doesn't mean the game is town-sided (i actually think voice/irl resistance is scumsided) for sure, but if you have played voice/irl and consider the game balanced then it's only logical you here think the game is townsided. So like, while i see where you are coming from -- there is nothing scummy in what he said, because for him it makes logically sense.

And yes he was town there.

raynpelikoneet

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November 02 2015 11:59 GMT

#282

On November 02 2015 20:58 Superbia wrote:
What do you think of my point on Rels, rayn?

I didn't actually consider that from that point of view at first but yeah, it makes a lot of sense.

raynpelikoneet

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November 02 2015 12:08 GMT

#284

On November 02 2015 19:52 Xatalos wrote:

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He didn't even scumread me for that though...... But for the initial post (???) and dropped the scumread to "mild" after my response... That's how I understood it anyway. So basically, the other way around compared to how you described it.

If you mean this I thought that Superbia called you scum for something you did that he found out to be scummy (which was the case). I also thought that he later on basically wanted you to prove yourself wrong and kept on questioning you for the "nightmare". I do that a lot myself. For example my question to kitaman at the start of the game is purely a loaded question.

I guess i was wrong about the follow up but his explanation is even more townier than what i thought he'd say is.

raynpelikoneet

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November 02 2015 12:18 GMT

#288

I think you should try to find two townreads besides Superbia if you think that's possible when you have read everything closely.

raynpelikoneet

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November 02 2015 12:19 GMT

#289

On November 02 2015 21:17 Xatalos wrote:
Hm... I guess so. I liked Superbia's recent post too. I just found it a bit odd that you so easily townread him with the wrong description of how it went, like you had decided to townread him and then carelessly read the posts themselves.

Well that's up to you to decide.