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On November 03 2015 22:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2015 22:56 Half the Sky wrote:On November 03 2015 22:37 ShoCkeyy wrote:On November 03 2015 22:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
ShoCkeyy do you agree you, kitaman and Rels should go to the first mission? Yea sure why not, I have a better feeling about kitaman and rels than I do of you... Kita's getting discussed to death now, but Rels....how? I can answer that. "Because rayn and Xatalos are teaming up against him". (that's what he said) But on the other hand he now says he doesn't really think i am scum. 
Stop putting words in my posts... I never said you were scum and I never did not say I don't really think you're scum... If you want please quote where I say this... If anything your ignorance keeps fueling my need to keep labeling as scum and keep pushing for you.
I'm going to quote this one more time:
On November 03 2015 21:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:As for your last paragraph, i do think at least Artanis would push stuff more, and SL would bus (lol). B asically as scum you want to look as town as possible and bussing is definitely not out of question, since you only need one scum onto a mission. If you, from the beginning, cut your own chances of getting to missions as scum, you basically just lose the game. Artanis knows better, and i find it genuine that he just has not have time to play and therefore hasn't have good reads. And i still think SL would just bus. And the rest of the people look worse anyways, and everyone cannot be scum.
This obviously means something and all of you are just ignoring it. I wouldn't be surprised that the scum team is leading the town...
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If we play by rayn's logic, I look the scummiest, so then I'm actually town.
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On November 03 2015 23:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:Like i find it really funny that every other post you call me scum and every other post you tell me to point out where you call me scum. It is literally hilarious. ^_^
Tell me where I directly called you scum.. This is the third time I've asked you to.
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On November 04 2015 01:05 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2015 22:46 ShoCkeyy wrote:
I gathered he town read you, HtS, Super... and this was posted 10 pages ago, he has way more reads than you do. You obviously think everyone else is town other than rels, kita and I.
I don't even have my full scum team list yet, I don't think anybody has a full scum team list yet, but some how you already do which further fuels my suspicion against you. LOL Sry Shockey but I'm laughing really hard =D
Yea, was just waking up and posting from my phone... I definitely misread it while trying to quote it lol...
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On November 04 2015 02:47 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2015 23:08 ShoCkeyy wrote:On November 03 2015 23:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:Like i find it really funny that every other post you call me scum and every other post you tell me to point out where you call me scum. It is literally hilarious. ^_^ Tell me where I directly called you scum.. This is the third time I've asked you to. I'm confused what you are trying to say because I was working under the assumption that rayn was one of your spy suspects. Show nested quote +On November 03 2015 03:15 ShoCkeyy wrote:
I'm pretty much going to reject the xata/rayn combo wombo. I'd rather see the first team mentioned - hts,super,xata go through. Show nested quote +On November 02 2015 23:23 ShoCkeyy wrote:
He can get angry as town too, haven't never seen him play as town. I'm just basing it off my previous game with him, which is why I rather not have him on the first mission. Show nested quote +On November 03 2015 22:36 ShoCkeyy wrote:
rayn the whole game has tried to look like an angry town player, cause he's obviously getting angry at my assumptions, not even real accusations. He can't even find the time to go through my meta and see how I play, yet I went through his. He also can't find the time to really interact with me Are you arguing semantics between whether or not you "directly called him scum" or whether you "inferred he was possibly scum"? Is the difference important? What do you think of people like Artanis, Xat or Super. Even if you aren't completely certain, it would be nice to see a bit more regarding what you are thinking about each of them.
There is a difference between directly calling him scum and having him as a suspect... I don't have any proof that he is, but I do have my suspicions from his previous games and his current postings. I also don't have a well enough case to directly call him scum. However, he calls me scum immediately, says I also directly call him scum and places me into a party of three that are scum in his books.
Artanis, I can understand if he's busy. I'm a busy guy too... I work a lot and I normally do not ever post as much as this. Within the few posts that he's made, he's brought one solid post that can pass off as town for me.
On November 03 2015 07:19 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2015 06:57 Half the Sky wrote:On November 03 2015 06:53 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On November 03 2015 06:52 Half the Sky wrote:On November 03 2015 06:47 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Hello folks! Lex, please tell me you have something of substance to say. Or will soon, at least by the time I get home. Not really, I'm kinda looking to be engaged in conversation to actually get the ball rolling and get into the game. .... Right now there's much debate over Superbia/rayn/Xata - that corner of things. Shockey's been back and forth on a few things. Does nothing jump out to you? Or anything that could change your reads? I just updated my noms too. What say you? I'm still kinda leaning scum on Shockey, though I do like that he's addressed a lot of issues I can very easily see his play be scum motivated, and I still feel like he was trying to get a hole in Rels' defense earlier. Having reread Kita, I'm actually quite okay with him, though I don't think his points on Xatalos say too much. Finding scum in this game isn't really as important as finding town so I can see Town Xata searching for town moreso than scum. I like Superbia's post on Rels, and honestly it does kinda make me doubt on him, but it moreso gives me a townread on Superbia for the way he's structured his post; he has a very clear idea of where he's going and that direction leads me to townread him. The problem I have now is that I have too many townreads which is eh. I'm probably going to vote no on the first team regardless to get more time. I'm not going to have much time until Thursday honestly.
Xata to me is still null, his needing to back rayn all the time is really weird and on the other hand he hasn't really done anything that can really call scum motivated. The only post I found weird was the whole reason super started going after Xata.
Super in general seemed like he tried to be active the first day and really start the conversation going. I sense more of a town from him that he's actively looking for both town/spies. The only thing that throws me off about super is how he "concluded" rayn was town. I don't think he ever explains it.
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@kita you summed it up here:
"He doesn't seem comfortable giving out statements which he isn't confident about. This could either mean that truly isn't sure and wants more time until it is clear or that he doesn't want to make a statement that could backfire later on in the game."
And also, I have been looking into rayn's previous games. Another thing, I don't need to be on a team, I already know I'm town, so when ever I do get on a team I'll be a 33% chance that it will pass. My current focus atm is trying to find town so when I vote for the teams, I know I'm voting confidently.
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On November 04 2015 05:42 Xatalos wrote:
Well, Superbia has really just become inactive in recent times, not necessarily unengaged... We'll see what he does when he returns.
(btw his last post is kind of weird... said he's voting yes and will explain it later? why not now?)
He said it was his Gf's birthday today so he wouldn't be around much... Did you miss that?
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On November 04 2015 08:06 Superbia wrote:
Half-here. Was general consensus no at EoD?
I think so, it pretty much seemed like a few people were going to say no.
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Or read the thread and give your thoughts. My reason is in my posting history.
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On November 04 2015 09:20 kitaman27 wrote:
Gnight.
Kitaman, question did you only read my mafia games?
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What? I knew they would be public and I did say any team that went ahead that wasn't xata rayn would be fine by me. I don't get what makes me look bad by voting yes?...
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On November 04 2015 20:52 Xatalos wrote:
Crap... My phone deleted everything I was writing as I went back to look at filters :/ Now I'll just write from the top of my head..
So yeah, right now I think shockeyy is probably scum (especially if he didn't realize that the votes would be public like sicklucker said..). The remaining scum should be one of HTS/Kita (explained before) and one of Rels/Superbia/Artanis. Tbh Rels hasn't seemed too bad lately considering his constant activity and engagement, while Superbia and Artanis have basically continued semi-lurking for a long time now. Not really confident who there is scum, but that should be resolved as the game progresses.
So overall, not really confident in attempting an all-scum team right now. Probably best just to go with the safe plan of me, rayn and.. sicklucker? He hasn't really done much besides the weird OMGUS on me, but just with PoE, the point about shockeyy and overall his "I don't give a fuck" attitude seem more likely from town IMO. Tentatively:
##Nominate Xatalos, rayn, sicklucker
(That should work?)
I'll be online only very sporadically for a while, but please comment.
Xata is not reading thread confirmed by this post. I'm in my office today, so I won't be posting a lot.
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On November 04 2015 20:12 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Since this worked so well for me last time I'm gonna go and do it again. Reads of X on Y below: ![[image loading]](http://puu.sh/l8XDS/c5b4b0ac75.png) Things of note after I went through the filters: -Superbia doesn't have many opinions at all. I don't like it. He was honed into one thing and one thing alone for a while and didn't really come to anything from it. -I actually came off with a pretty strong townread on sl from it, which I was surprised by. He seems very open and aggressive in his posting which I didn't get from him when he was scum. Seems to actually be trying to do stuff. -Surprised so many people scumread Rels still. He seems really active to me and pushing things. Can people explain this? -Still actually kinda leaning scum on HtS. She seems highly defensive, and in hindsight I still don't really like how she mentioned how I didn't have much time, yet still tried to push a fear read based on not doing much. Also, Rayn should be on whichever next mission. I also find it odd that shockeyy's actually suspicious of him, I'm not sure that's actually a good play as mafia to do but eh. Could be newbie scum I suppose.
You missed that I town read you and rels also. Another thing, why would I say I don't need to get on a team if I was mafia? Wouldn't I want to be on a team if I was mafia in order to sabotage?... You guys don't make any sense. I also don't need to place myself on my own team if I'm confident on who is town. Back to work.
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Guess no one read my last post.
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On November 05 2015 05:26 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2015 02:11 ShoCkeyy wrote:
I also don't need to place myself on my own team if I'm confident on who is town. Back to work. The problem that I have here is that you said you would pass every combination except the xat + rayn combo. rayn really seems to be the player you were most suspicious of on day one, yet you sent it through. Also, don't get discouraged by everyone scum reading you if you are indeed town. People are going to reject pretty much anything you say if the hive mind is against you. Just keep trucking and maybe it will help sometime down the road
The reason I passed it was because if a sabotage happened on the first mission, then that can just fuel the suspicion even more and more people would start to see what I'm talking about. Also, Idc if people scum read me, I've been playing TL Mafia since the mafia forums first opened ;p
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Trying to play ketchup, still at the office, will be driving soon, ughhh.... an hour commute gg. Other than that, can I get a quick list of the next team that will be up for voting?
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You guys/girls are all bad at this game. It's so obvious I'm not scum by looking like scum. Do you think as a scum player I would say I don't care about getting on a team? Do you think as a scum player I would seriously let me team down by forcing it to be 2v9? A spy will always try his best to look like town. Fuck looking like a town player, I know I'm town, I don't care if I get labeled as scum because in the end, the town will win. I just want to let my town players know to really look out for those misguided posts. The mafia needs to get on those missions to win so they're going to try their best to really paint me or anybody else as mafia. I don't need to get on the teams to win because I know eventually we'll have the three town players consistently going on missions to win the game.
//Stuck in traffic rant.
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Also brings me to my next point, who ever is pushing for me as mafia. I would say to start looking there - there's definitely mafia hiding there.
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Idk why it's so hard for people to understand I knew the votes would be visible... Also it's not hard to look through my filter.
On November 03 2015 03:15 ShoCkeyy wrote:
I'm pretty much going to reject the xata/rayn combo wombo. I'd rather see the first team mentioned - hts,super,xata go through. At least if a sabotage happens, we definitely have a good chance of finding the mafia until the next mission.
The lineup when I voted was HtS, Xata and Kita, which I was perfectly fine with. Also, a bit more on my strategy. Losing the first one is a big deal to me, because then we have 1 out of 3 that have to be mafia. We just do not ever send any of them to any missions. After there will be three missions that are ready to be won since the fourth one needs at least 2 mafia members and we know of already one by then who hasn't gone on any other missions. Obviously there will be two more, as well, but with this game dragging out, it'll eventually be easy to spot them.
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Aand I realized I spent my 4k post on trying to let you know mafia is hiding behind the wall of painting me mafia.
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