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The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
November 01 2015 20:54 GMT
#73
Hm. Only because of the flavor. :3 May my heart be broken this game as it was watching the anime, reading the manga and watching Brotherhood. I was so young when I first watched/read too. The feels...

/in: Open
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
November 01 2015 21:29 GMT
#75
I have like 2 scum rolls in like 16-17 games on TL. Please don't policy lynch me lol
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
November 10 2015 02:45 GMT
#142
I cri evertiem
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
November 11 2015 20:19 GMT
#155
I had a dream that I came back to this thread, it was full up and confirmations were happening. I forgot to confirm and got replaced and I was really sad. I rushed to check and...it was just a dream.

I might be suffering from Mafia withdrawal.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
November 11 2015 21:50 GMT
#159
I think ES just won the game before it started.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
November 11 2015 21:51 GMT
#160
But why am I always scum to you when I've filled town in like 16/18 games? D= no faith in me
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
November 11 2015 22:10 GMT
#162
XP I hold no grudges, I think I pick on you for fun, as well XD

Unfortunately for me this is starting to feel like I will in fact roll scum. Ohnoezzz

I will def CC doc if I do
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
November 14 2015 22:38 GMT
#216
#OneIsAll

I'm a rebel
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
November 15 2015 20:34 GMT
#259
Farrah your logic is flawed. I rolled scum a few games ago which means I'm due for another 10 town games, which this is. Your instant vote is pretty uncalled for so early, with so many people missing but I'll chalk it up to interesting entrance. How far you plan on pushing this obvious policy lynch?

Actually all the entrances so far suck. No TRs, town Y u make this so hard?
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
November 15 2015 20:38 GMT
#264
On November 16 2015 05:33 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2015 05:13 Eversince wrote:
On November 16 2015 05:04 FarahBlackwing wrote:
Hello. I think the proper use of our time is

##vote shining

Statistically it has to be time


100% townread based on nothing last game I play with you.


Last game: Farah town, hard read based on not much, Shining obvious town.
This game: Farah ?, Shining mafia.

180 in gameplay = 180 in alignment

Obviously mafia.

##vote: Farahblackwing

Soooo mafia. Lynch today!

I actually like this a lot.

##Vote: Farahblackwing


What about it do you like? I see a short meta read based off of one newbie game, from a newbie. I wouldn't be nearly this confident in meta reading someone after just one game. And how do you know its even accurate? Did you check the last game or are you just blindly trusting to get on a wagon here?
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
November 15 2015 20:39 GMT
#266
On November 16 2015 05:37 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like statistically speaking you could just close your eyes and point at a townie, so the fact that you can't trust ANYONE with so many having posted is a huge red flag for me.


I'm here to find scum, not town. Answer my question
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
November 15 2015 20:44 GMT
#269
If you want me to explain, the logic of closing your eyes and finding a town less than an hour to d1 by just pointing means statistically you have a higher chance of finding town by being random. By that same logic, snap voting this early on D1 means it has a higher chance of landing on town.

Farrah why do you think the game is boring less than an hour after it started? That feels pretty ñonsensical. Things have to happen for it to be exciting, or boring. Deciding its boring on the 3rd post of the game is pretty weird.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
November 15 2015 20:48 GMT
#272
On November 16 2015 05:42 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2015 05:38 The Shining wrote:
On November 16 2015 05:33 VisceraEyes wrote:
On November 16 2015 05:13 Eversince wrote:
On November 16 2015 05:04 FarahBlackwing wrote:
Hello. I think the proper use of our time is

##vote shining

Statistically it has to be time


100% townread based on nothing last game I play with you.


Last game: Farah town, hard read based on not much, Shining obvious town.
This game: Farah ?, Shining mafia.

180 in gameplay = 180 in alignment

Obviously mafia.

##vote: Farahblackwing

Soooo mafia. Lynch today!

I actually like this a lot.

##Vote: Farahblackwing


What about it do you like? I see a short meta read based off of one newbie game, from a newbie. I wouldn't be nearly this confident in meta reading someone after just one game. And how do you know its even accurate? Did you check the last game or are you just blindly trusting to get on a wagon here?

I don't care if it's accurate - if they're mafia and lying someone will come in and say "Hey that's a lie" and I'll reevaluate then. At this point I'm taking the short meta read at face value, assuming it's true and taking the attempt as a townie attempt to find mafia - one that has possibly borne fruit.

So no, I'm not just "blindly" jumping on a wagon. I like this particular wagon for the reasons given and I like the person who started it, as indicated in my post.


So in other words, you're being lazy and following the word of someone that you've never played with before about someone youve never played with before. Got it.

Now if I go and say that I have a meta read on Eversince because as scum last game she just enters the thread and finds the scummiest looking thing she can and just hammers it into oblivion, which I think she could be doing here, what would you make of that? I want to see more than a short meta read on one person and no talk of other players before I even remotely believe she is town.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
November 15 2015 20:50 GMT
#275
On November 16 2015 05:45 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2015 05:44 The Shining wrote:
If you want me to explain, the logic of closing your eyes and finding a town less than an hour to d1 by just pointing means statistically you have a higher chance of finding town by being random. By that same logic, snap voting this early on D1 means it has a higher chance of landing on town.

Farrah why do you think the game is boring less than an hour after it started? That feels pretty ñonsensical. Things have to happen for it to be exciting, or boring. Deciding its boring on the 3rd post of the game is pretty weird.

And AS I said, it wasn't a random snap vote. It's a vote placed with reason. You may or may not agree with the reason, that's your prerogative and should affect whether or not you place your vote. Not mine. <3


Yep and I tend to flesh out my reads before I sheep a 1-game metaread. That's why I'm questioning both. But you not questioning either just felt really off to me.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
November 15 2015 20:53 GMT
#278
On November 16 2015 05:50 FarahBlackwing wrote:
Nobody had tried to talk yet made anything interesting, entrances were boring so I did something different


What entrances were boring? You were the 3rd post. And of all things to enter with, you picked on something that I mentioned about myself pregame. That statistically I roll town a LOT. But each game is rngd and different so why is it any more likely for me to roll scum this game instead of town? It's bad logic, unless you were just looking for reactions.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
November 15 2015 20:55 GMT
#279
On November 16 2015 05:50 VisceraEyes wrote:
You're getting awfully anxious about me trusting someone so early Shining, I have to say it looks really scummy to me. Why are you so against me having a townread on someone and a scumread on someone else?


I'm not against it. I'm trying to figure out HOW you got to those reads because you seem to have done so in record time with reasons I dont agree with. So I'm interested in how you got there.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
November 15 2015 20:58 GMT
#281
On November 16 2015 05:52 geript wrote:
I don't like Shining. He feels really different; not because he's posting a bit more than I remember him. His posting just seems off and not pointed to me.


You're just mad that my first scum win was against you while I was super lurky. It's OK, I understand. Please explain what you mean by not pointed? I'm asking questions to flesh out my reads, since nothing else is happening for me to read/react on.

Also, since you bring up my posting frequency, you should know that my activity depends heavily on what day of the week it is and how busy work is. I almost never have time to play on Monday/Tuesday and today is Sunday so I want to get the most out of my playing time today.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
November 15 2015 21:06 GMT
#289
Like right now a bunch of posts and discussion have appeared and yet, just like I said, Eversince voted Farrah, mentioned no one else and is now gone. I don't like that because it's exactly what scum Eversince did when she came into thread last game.

And VE you claim a lot of people posted already so here's a list for you.

Scott, Moosy, Breshke, nocturne, ritoky, Trfel. Half the game still hasn't shown up so saying "so many" have posted and i should have townreads is just discrediting me and my playstyle. And fecal has made useless posts. Disformation asked a pointless question about FF just waking up, as if its alignment indicative and a joke vote proposal on voting Scott. These things are early enough for me to find them null until I see what they actually do.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
November 15 2015 21:13 GMT
#297
On November 16 2015 06:02 Eversince wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2015 05:48 The Shining wrote:
On November 16 2015 05:42 VisceraEyes wrote:
On November 16 2015 05:38 The Shining wrote:
On November 16 2015 05:33 VisceraEyes wrote:
On November 16 2015 05:13 Eversince wrote:
On November 16 2015 05:04 FarahBlackwing wrote:
Hello. I think the proper use of our time is

##vote shining

Statistically it has to be time


100% townread based on nothing last game I play with you.


Last game: Farah town, hard read based on not much, Shining obvious town.
This game: Farah ?, Shining mafia.

180 in gameplay = 180 in alignment

Obviously mafia.

##vote: Farahblackwing

Soooo mafia. Lynch today!

I actually like this a lot.

##Vote: Farahblackwing


What about it do you like? I see a short meta read based off of one newbie game, from a newbie. I wouldn't be nearly this confident in meta reading someone after just one game. And how do you know its even accurate? Did you check the last game or are you just blindly trusting to get on a wagon here?

I don't care if it's accurate - if they're mafia and lying someone will come in and say "Hey that's a lie" and I'll reevaluate then. At this point I'm taking the short meta read at face value, assuming it's true and taking the attempt as a townie attempt to find mafia - one that has possibly borne fruit.

So no, I'm not just "blindly" jumping on a wagon. I like this particular wagon for the reasons given and I like the person who started it, as indicated in my post.


So in other words, you're being lazy and following the word of someone that you've never played with before about someone youve never played with before. Got it.

Now if I go and say that I have a meta read on Eversince because as scum last game she just enters the thread and finds the scummiest looking thing she can and just hammers it into oblivion, which I think she could be doing here, what would you make of that? I want to see more than a short meta read on one person and no talk of other players before I even remotely believe she is town.


I came into thread picking at Kelsier for the argument between him and Moosy. Since I was mafia that game, I knew both where town, but what else to pick at? They had filled several pages of the game with useless rambling. How can you even say I hammered it into the ground? I dropped my Kelsier read in the following night phase. I only held on to Moosy because his lack of content provided an excuse to my mafia self to chase after.

I did play with Farah last game. You basically posted nothing for 80% of the game. She had an irreversible town read on you from early D1. So much so, I wish you HAD been mafia that game. Because if it had been you and not Vonthin, mafia would have easily won that game by killing Rels, and leaving you, Farah, and GB alive for lylo. Because Farah would not have voted you from D1 that game. I mentioned as much in QT about night kills because if Vonthin was left with Farah/Shining he would loss because neither would vote the other over him.

Other than that point, I see nothing wrong with he's done other than ploy at a sarcastical comment I made an hour into this game. Which you point that he hasn't a need to make it. That's true. But don't try to say that I'm playin' my mafia meta because I poke fun early into the game.



Then you disappeared and came back into the thread and tried to pick on me for "posting nothing" when I was actually posting and playing when I was around. I also singlehandedly won that game in triple lylo, thanks for reminding me. But I was referring to you trying to hammer me and Farrah into the ground for her TR on me.

And you were scum with perfect information so that second paragraph is kinda pointless to read into. All I'll say is you're faulting someone for having a good way of correctly reading me. If you're town this time around, you have to accept that some people are going to be adamant about their reads on either alignment. Being wishy washy just makes you look scummy.

That being said, this post is much more townie than the last one. So you have a meta read on Farrah. What are your thoughts on Viscera and his sheeping you?
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
November 15 2015 21:14 GMT
#300
On November 16 2015 06:11 Eversince wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2015 06:02 Eversince wrote:
On November 16 2015 05:48 The Shining wrote:
On November 16 2015 05:42 VisceraEyes wrote:
On November 16 2015 05:38 The Shining wrote:
On November 16 2015 05:33 VisceraEyes wrote:
On November 16 2015 05:13 Eversince wrote:
On November 16 2015 05:04 FarahBlackwing wrote:
Hello. I think the proper use of our time is

##vote shining

Statistically it has to be time


100% townread based on nothing last game I play with you.


Last game: Farah town, hard read based on not much, Shining obvious town.
This game: Farah ?, Shining mafia.

180 in gameplay = 180 in alignment

Obviously mafia.

##vote: Farahblackwing

Soooo mafia. Lynch today!

I actually like this a lot.

##Vote: Farahblackwing


What about it do you like? I see a short meta read based off of one newbie game, from a newbie. I wouldn't be nearly this confident in meta reading someone after just one game. And how do you know its even accurate? Did you check the last game or are you just blindly trusting to get on a wagon here?

I don't care if it's accurate - if they're mafia and lying someone will come in and say "Hey that's a lie" and I'll reevaluate then. At this point I'm taking the short meta read at face value, assuming it's true and taking the attempt as a townie attempt to find mafia - one that has possibly borne fruit.

So no, I'm not just "blindly" jumping on a wagon. I like this particular wagon for the reasons given and I like the person who started it, as indicated in my post.


So in other words, you're being lazy and following the word of someone that you've never played with before about someone youve never played with before. Got it.

Now if I go and say that I have a meta read on Eversince because as scum last game she just enters the thread and finds the scummiest looking thing she can and just hammers it into oblivion, which I think she could be doing here, what would you make of that? I want to see more than a short meta read on one person and no talk of other players before I even remotely believe she is town.


I came into thread picking at Kelsier for the argument between him and Moosy. Since I was mafia that game, I knew both where town, but what else to pick at? They had filled several pages of the game with useless rambling. How can you even say I hammered it into the ground? I dropped my Kelsier read in the following night phase. I only held on to Moosy because his lack of content provided an excuse to my mafia self to chase after.

I did play with Farah last game. You basically posted nothing for 80% of the game. She had an irreversible town read on you from early D1. So much so, I wish you HAD been mafia that game. Because if it had been you and not Vonthin, mafia would have easily won that game by killing Rels, and leaving you, Farah, and GB alive for lylo. Because Farah would not have voted you from D1 that game. I mentioned as much in QT about night kills because if Vonthin was left with Farah/Shining he would loss because neither would vote the other over him.

Other than that point, I see nothing wrong with he's done other than ploy at a sarcastical comment I made an hour into this game. Which you point that he hasn't a need to make it. That's true. But don't try to say that I'm playin' my mafia meta because I poke fun early into the game.


4 minutes ago. How am I gone again? Also yeh, I will be vacant most of the following day. I said in pre-game I hurt myself badly. I had a surgery last night, another one in about 3 and a half hours, and a third after that, whenever I show stable again. Sorry the doctors won't pump me full of so much anesthesia, while inflicting massive amounts of trauma, to kill me to do it all at once.

Fishy.


Meh feel better then. I also wrote that post before I saw your post responding to me so its pretty much moot now. The Farrah vote post was the most recent post in your filter when I posted.
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