EPTWe were actually planning to counterclaim FarahBlackwing on Day 3....
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We were actually planning to counterclaim FarahBlackwing on Day 3.... | ||
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On November 24 2015 05:50 NocturneMage wrote: Nah, you were fine.GGs Trfel. I'm sure I'll see you in another game. Hopefully I didn't come across as too much of a dick this game. The big thing you did wrong is that you let me live so long  When you make a big post with a bunch of reasons why I'm scum, and I only respond to half of them, what does that tell you about the other half? XD | ||
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On November 24 2015 05:51 disformation wrote: FarahBlackwing played quite well, honestly. No clue why everyone was scumreading her.Yeah, can totally see that. Mentioned before that farah and moosy of all ppl being blue was bad for you guys. Getting Damdred in the vet slot and losing the roleblocker was super incredible bad for you guys. ^^ It wasn't that Damdred replacing in for FarahBlackwing was such an "unfair substitution". It was just that it happened after we were already committed to a certain strategy, and replacements always change strategy. I'd say that Damdred's #1 advantage over FarahBlackwing when he replaced in was simply having a fresh approach, and the continual frustration and pressure was the whole reason we were pushing FarahBlackwing to begin with. I am sorry for upsetting FarahBlackwing so much, though, I got carried away with it. | ||
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On November 24 2015 05:53 Fecalfeast wrote: High effort?You're a really high effort scum player and it scares me. Look at someone like rsoultin, raynpelikoneet. My scum effort is pretty miserable. | ||
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On November 24 2015 06:04 NocturneMage wrote: It requires a ton of context. Just looking at the vote count isn't good enough, you have to consider the vote count and the thread sentiment at the time when the votes in question were made.One thing I'd like to ask from more experienced players is vote analysis. That shit still confuses me mostly and any post on it I feel like I have to play 20+ games to really understand how to analyse town and mafia actions from votes. Like I only knew that late votes = bussing was from experience in newbie 13. My only prior mafia experience was real life and everyone just throws their hands up all at once. But trying to lay out the votes this game I will say is much much easier with the tracker but even then it's hard to tell timing motivations, even with Shining's statements on number of switches, I would have never picked up on ritoky's switching as a bad thing. are there any guides or anything to try and pick up voting analysis? it seems so effective but so difficult to understand. fuck. Once you do that, it's actually really simple. You just look at the motivation and the implications of each vote, how the wagons are changing, and what the result of that is. Or you can ask ritoky, he has some really special voting analysis tricks, but I doubt he's willing to share XD | ||
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On November 24 2015 06:17 NocturneMage wrote: I mean, that's really the hard part of mafia, though.nah, I get it. I'd like one more game where I can get coaching on voting analysis specifically even if I am an open player. either that or a guide or something but at least this gives me a rough start. I think for the most part I looked town enough to not get lynched, it seems like people would have just fear/tinfoil lynched me in mylo, and I felt I have made good points and read carefully all game. so that was somewhat concerning. at least if nothing else reading mafia qt, you people were threatened by me to the point you almost shot me night 1 over moosy. so I think I did something right. and for the people tinfoiling me as scum (lol Fecalfeast) I don't know what to say. my first game I read HTS's scum games when I was drawn as scum, but that didn't help me any, I think I just need more experience, but then again she has a different approach to playing scum than I do. The concepts are simple, the hard part is the experience so that you can figure out what's happening and so that you don't miss possibilities. I'd like to play with you as town sometime T.T I think we could work well together! I'll tell you who's scum and you go lynch them, okay? | ||
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It was just unfortunate for us that the replacement happened as it did, but I don't think it was wrong. | ||
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On November 24 2015 06:23 NocturneMage wrote: Just ignore it final thing I'll comment on was the ridiculous and excessive use of meta by a lot of players. It made it very difficult to read and understand certain points on different players day 1. I really don't know what to say, I am just very hesitant to trust meta reads on players I don't know from players I don't know and that just makes it very difficult to tell people's intentions. and I have been taught certain types of meta is faked (like Trfel's tone this game) or broken. so getting around that? that's hard for me being new around here. that said, if anyone has any pointers for me, let me know. If people say something you can't understand, ask them to break it down for you such that it makes sense. If they're unwilling to do so, or can't explain it such that you can understand it, then ignore it. There are a million ways to solve the game without using meta. I think that simple meta like "is this player good or not?" works just fine for 90% of players. It's a playstyle thing, you can use meta, or you can largely avoid meta. | ||
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On November 24 2015 07:14 Damdred wrote: I strongly disagree, but I don't really care to debate it any more.Well I was traveling I'm glad we won. A few thoughts Evers slot probably should of been modkilled instead of replaced. Anything past early d2 is to long a time to allow fresh insite into the game. My replacement is not as badly done as some people make it seem. It sucked for scum me coming into a vet slot, however what's the difference between pushing me and pushing Farah? The difference is a mind set thing rather than an actual game play. Besides that people have been subbed put for reasons of not wanting to play and time constraints which Farah had as she had 4 horridshifts the next day Anyway good game town. And scum played well d1 and somewhat d2. | ||
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