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geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
November 16 2015 05:35 GMT
#381
I'm upgrading ritoky to never vote for as well. </3
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
November 16 2015 06:16 GMT
#388
On November 16 2015 14:37 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2015 08:30 disformation wrote:
On November 16 2015 08:09 ritoky wrote:
On November 16 2015 08:04 disformation wrote:
On November 16 2015 07:51 ritoky wrote:
On November 16 2015 06:17 disformation wrote:
On November 16 2015 06:13 FarahBlackwing wrote:
On November 16 2015 06:08 disformation wrote:
On November 16 2015 06:05 FarahBlackwing wrote:
On November 16 2015 05:59 geript wrote:
[quote]
So what's your read and how did you reach it?


Shining is town based on general activity, somewhat emotional responses based on things happening in game. His posts sound like someone struggling o try to get his point across rather than someone trying to fit in.

Pretty sure he's town at least for now.


Do you mean to say that Shining posts much more as town? Could someone else confirm this? Don't remember playing with Shining.


From reading his past games he is slightly more posty but he's more mechanical as scum and lacks emotional responses about in game situations and it generally comes later after post a than in sync with the thread. This view comes from research and talking with people who know how to read him


Alright, thanks.
Will probably have to look at a few Shining maffay games myself.


quoting for empty promise potential.


Should have said "maybe, if two suns rise tomorrow morning will I look at some past games."
Nah, for realz, he only has two maffay games in the database, so I will be looking at those next.

Despite me saying that I don't recall playing with The Shining we were both town in NSM IX. So I am currently reading both our filters from that game trying to recall stuff.


that's cool, i expect content later though.

however before you finish that i am more interested on your thoughts on the actual game, not how it relates to previous games. who do you think is town? who is mafia? who is bad? who's ego is too big? y'kno....the usual


Fair enough. Since I haven't played with the shining much, I am not that confident I will find amazing things in those old games. But I did try and pressure him in NSM9 a few times because I felt like he wasn't doing much. He was town in this game. So I am already not too sure about the meta read. His filter length in "Battle of the Drams", where he was mafia, is pretty similar to the one in NSM9, too...

Well, back to this game:
As stated before I have a town lean on geript for driving the game and prodding ppl into explaining stuff.
Trfel.. kinda strange reaction to VE's uh... lets call it a poke. Not sure if his knee jerk reaction is maffay or town motivated.
FF: null. Only reaction so far is to me having his name in a post. Lurking?
ritoky: Getting an investigating/engaging/driving the thread feel, so town lean.

The early discussion stuff with Eversince, Farah, The Shining and VE was a bit strange to me, since I read the early posts by Eversince and Farah as jokes to get stuff going (well: mission accomplished).
Not sure about VE, but both ppl I have as a town lean, say he is town based on meta, so I'll probably be a lazy cunt and sheep them (for now).


yo geript, what do you think of the bolded? like...why was it included?

I'm 99% sure I've coached disinformation. I just can't remember if it was as scum or town. I really want to look at that before I give a full read on him. The bolded doesn't terribly mark me either way other than the question mark. He's made what would seem to be questions out of statements a few times. He kinda bugs me a bit but without going back to see how he thinks it's hard to say if it's scummy or just bad play.

Right now.
7/7---VE/Ritoky
6/7--
5/7--
4.5/7--Farah
4/7--everyone else
3.5/7--Breshke
3/7--Disinfo
2/7--Trfel
1/7--Moosy

I'm seriously like 99% sure moosy is scum.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
November 16 2015 06:17 GMT
#390
Pps. Breske's maybe a 5. I'm feeling waffly
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
November 16 2015 06:34 GMT
#394
It's meta mostly but I'm really sure of it.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
November 16 2015 06:41 GMT
#397
Tired.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
November 16 2015 06:42 GMT
#400
On November 16 2015 15:35 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2015 15:34 geript wrote:
It's meta mostly but I'm really sure of it.


tonal meta or content meta?

I'll explain it more after work tomorrow.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
November 16 2015 06:43 GMT
#401
On November 16 2015 15:42 ritoky wrote:
also geript did you get upgraded to full time for that nursing job you got?

Well I'm working 50-60 hours per week so you do the math.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
November 17 2015 06:22 GMT
#682
I'm back but I'm catching up. So far, Nocturne Mage has joined VE/Ritoky. Trfel has stayed teh same; but I kinda don't want to lynch him D1 because I remembered when I woke up that Tina says he always looks scummy D1 but gets better. I didn't like his stuff on Disinfo; just felt over inflated. It's not awful, but it is a bit over inflated it hink
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
November 17 2015 06:26 GMT
#683
On November 17 2015 07:29 VisceraEyes wrote:
The people arguing man I don't know. I saw a bunch of posters arguing with each other so I made a broad stroke generalization that most of them are town. I'm not currently sitting at the computer so I'm not gonna go back and name names, the point was that like always I'm mostly interested in lynching in the low volume posters today.

It's funny, this made me laugh. I think it might even be true.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
November 17 2015 06:30 GMT
#684
On November 17 2015 07:33 Breshke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2015 07:30 Trfel wrote:
Breshke, any thoughts on VisceraEyes and Fecalfeast?

What makes geript's ranking out of 7 post any different from a standard list post?


I have no problem with VE's read on FF seems to be a classic " he isn't doing stuff so lynch him".

IDK i said it was dumb but people normally do stuff out of 10 or a percent or like out of 5. He did 7 so someone could be like "Why the fuck is it out of 7" and he would need to explain which would bring more attention to his reads etc

There's really nothing special about it. For scientific studies, usually we talk about rating things on an odd scale (5 or 7 usually). 1 and 7 are extremes; 4 is exactly in the middle, 2-3 and 5-6 leaning but not there. It just actually fits things better:
7/7=total town no doubts
6/7=90% town but some doubts
5/7=more likely town than not but ???
4/7=null
3/7=more likely scum than not but ???
2/7=90% scum but some doubts
1/7=total scum

Like this is such an irrelevant point. get back to something important.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
November 17 2015 06:40 GMT
#685
@Farah. You're Damdred's wife right? If so, how would he read you this game if he were playing?
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
November 17 2015 06:47 GMT
#686
On November 17 2015 09:51 ritoky wrote:
town in no particular order:
ritoky
geript
ve
trfel
farah
NM

exempt:
moosy - reasons
ever - surgery sympathy

not town:
ff
disform
shining
breshke
scott

any questions?

I don't hate this list. I'd kick Trfel to not town though. I'd maybe kick Farah too but idk.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
November 17 2015 06:52 GMT
#687
On November 17 2015 10:18 Fecalfeast wrote:
When did I become such a pushover? That disform post reads pretty genuine to me

Genuine, yes. But they hit a variety of things that really bug me. Like genuine about things that don't matter and genuine about things that are scum indicative.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
November 17 2015 07:01 GMT
#688
I guess I'm talking to myself. Mental note. Pull up excel meta notes on Breshke, Trfel, shining and moosy. Especially shining/Breshke.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
November 17 2015 08:11 GMT
#690
On November 17 2015 16:57 Fecalfeast wrote:
I'm here now can you hold my hand geript and tell me what was scum indicative about disform's post?

I'm about to go to bed. But I remember a few specific things. Feeling less motivated; that's something that tends to happen with new scum. The bite me in the butt comment. Just little things. The post really reminded me of what I'd tell a new scum to post. Be honest where possible. Back track as necessary. Try to make 1-2 new points that go nowhere. Search to clarify things that are irrelevant.

Like I'm really waffly on Disinfo. And no real time to look at coaching qt.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
November 17 2015 08:16 GMT
#691
One last post. I'll be up around noon hopefully to look at things. I think Shinig or moosy would be my lynch choice.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
November 17 2015 17:24 GMT
#755
A few things.
Moosey 5.5/7--I think Moosy might be town. It's kinda impossible to tell, but I liked his Farah read. I don't think the read is good, but Moosy tends (as town) to be staunch on some really out there read that no one else sees. Yes, he does the same thing as scum. Yes, IMO he'll do anything he'd do as town as scum including acting like an ass. I don't have a super strong read on him that I can make a town case on him, but I feel about as strong about the read on him as I did in the last game (where I was tracker and was trying to decouple him and scumdred). The thing that really makes me think he's town isn't just his outburst around the Farah thing; more importantly it's how he comes back to it later on. The bounce back on was really, really towny I think. It's this, "I want to fuck people over and I don't want to fuck people over" dissonance that I don't think he can really fake as mafia.

Scott 4.5/7--He's still null-ish. This seems kinda funny, but I don't really get the sense that anyone is trying to shield or direct votes towards him. Trfel iirc was the first to sorta toss a vote his way and it didn't seem bussy for cred or protecty for Moosy. It feels a bit TvT on the lynch and his catching up post about ~p30 (or around that area) kinda had similar thoughts to where I thought I was when I was catching up.

Shining 5.5/7--I could be wrong on him; it's not just the fact that he's quoting in every post or thereabouts. He's no over explainy which he does as mafia. He's not really disconnected from the thread. He's had a good thought or two. Meta fits which is enough for now.

##Vote: Breshke--Breshke has 2 posts that I semi-like. The problem being that they say things that are easy to say and don't really add anything. The problem that I have with Breshke is that when he's town his posts bounce off the thread and interact with the thread. By this, I don't mean Breshke asks things to people and stuff. Rather, he'll see a thought or something in the thread that spurns a new thought, a new direction. It's as if he reads something and it gets put together with something else to form something slightly old mixed with something new. There's also the fact that in general, he's asking far more isolated questions of people than I remember him doing; especially when he drops them as if he doesn't care about them.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
November 17 2015 17:25 GMT
#756
I'd like everyone who's voting for moosy to respond to my points on moosy and preferably switch to Breshke
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
November 17 2015 17:35 GMT
#758
Com on thread..... I know people are around. Toss me a bone and read my post.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
November 17 2015 17:40 GMT
#761
On November 18 2015 02:37 disformation wrote:
Okay moosy vs scott:

MoosyDoosy
Do I want to lynch moosy because I think he is mafia?
To be totally honest: No. I want to policy lynch him for pulling that martyr shit again.
From things like: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/497023-newbie-student-mafia-xvii-fullmetal-edition?page=38#741
And his tone when talking to FF I think he is more likely to flip town than mafia...
I am still not a fan and think it might be dangerous for town to keep him around for to long, since he is kinda a wildcard. But as town I should lynch mafia... so prolly unvoting.

Scott
When looking at his filter my brain says he is maffay. I look at the dick move analysis and my gut says he is town. I am probably too nice. That being said I think he actually has a higher chance of being maffay than MoosyDoosy. Which makes me kinda said.

Looking at scotts filter again and try to see what geript is seeing.

Little of that is in Scotts filter (other than the p30 recap thing). Most of it is in scattered posts about/surrounding Scott.
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