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Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
October 26 2015 15:42 GMT
#2046
On October 27 2015 00:33 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2015 21:08 Rels wrote:
On October 24 2015 09:45 Vonthin wrote:
Yeah I think GB/Boxer and then either ES or Farah is a good scum team. After looking over GB's filter I agree with all the points about him in your posts. Only thing that bothers me about this team is GB has called out Boxer a couple times like he was the first one last time to call TMI on the Boxer dropping the Moosy vote and then defending him poorly by leaving his vote on FF for shit reasons

On October 25 2015 04:34 Vonthin wrote:
GB/Boxer are scum mates. I feel at this point Boxer is trying to separate himself from GB who has an excellent chance of getting lynched today. His case adding onto the points FF have made are the first case he has made this game that I don't see any scum motivation behind. GB thinks BF is town because he is trying hard to lynch him but not FF whose case and points on him are just as good as BF's. Before BF made this case on GB, GB thought he could be scum with the TMI on the MD lynch but now he is town for making a case against GB. Boxer also seems to be tunneling GB pretty hard when at this point you need to keep everyone in mind or else we lose.

Third scummate is either ES or Farah. Still learning towards ES as Farah is finally starting to scumhunt and not just defending herself and ES still really hasn't done anything worthwhile besides coming in and piling onto the Farah suspicions and just quoting a GB post saying she doesn't like it.

Lynch Boxer/GB today and tomorrow, get more reads from Farah and ES to determine which one of them is scum. Win game.


On October 25 2015 05:12 Vonthin wrote:
Farah who do you think are ES's scummates? What are your thoughts on a GB/Boxer being scummates with ES

Right now rereading ES filter again I am getting more inclined to think she is scum over you. Now that you are done defending yourself/arguing with Rels and others and are scum hunting is good but you are back to tunneling ES. If you can make some good cases for other people it will help me being sure on this as you could very well be possibly scum for tunneling all game on 1 towny trying to win the game with a push on her today.

These posts at the start of D3 before any claim situation are super good. I really don't see any other possibilities than ES / GB.


Rels.

I am not mafia.

Your bad push of FF yesterday says otherwise.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
October 26 2015 15:52 GMT
#2048
On October 27 2015 00:49 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2015 00:42 Rels wrote:
On October 27 2015 00:33 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 26 2015 21:08 Rels wrote:
On October 24 2015 09:45 Vonthin wrote:
Yeah I think GB/Boxer and then either ES or Farah is a good scum team. After looking over GB's filter I agree with all the points about him in your posts. Only thing that bothers me about this team is GB has called out Boxer a couple times like he was the first one last time to call TMI on the Boxer dropping the Moosy vote and then defending him poorly by leaving his vote on FF for shit reasons

On October 25 2015 04:34 Vonthin wrote:
GB/Boxer are scum mates. I feel at this point Boxer is trying to separate himself from GB who has an excellent chance of getting lynched today. His case adding onto the points FF have made are the first case he has made this game that I don't see any scum motivation behind. GB thinks BF is town because he is trying hard to lynch him but not FF whose case and points on him are just as good as BF's. Before BF made this case on GB, GB thought he could be scum with the TMI on the MD lynch but now he is town for making a case against GB. Boxer also seems to be tunneling GB pretty hard when at this point you need to keep everyone in mind or else we lose.

Third scummate is either ES or Farah. Still learning towards ES as Farah is finally starting to scumhunt and not just defending herself and ES still really hasn't done anything worthwhile besides coming in and piling onto the Farah suspicions and just quoting a GB post saying she doesn't like it.

Lynch Boxer/GB today and tomorrow, get more reads from Farah and ES to determine which one of them is scum. Win game.


On October 25 2015 05:12 Vonthin wrote:
Farah who do you think are ES's scummates? What are your thoughts on a GB/Boxer being scummates with ES

Right now rereading ES filter again I am getting more inclined to think she is scum over you. Now that you are done defending yourself/arguing with Rels and others and are scum hunting is good but you are back to tunneling ES. If you can make some good cases for other people it will help me being sure on this as you could very well be possibly scum for tunneling all game on 1 towny trying to win the game with a push on her today.

These posts at the start of D3 before any claim situation are super good. I really don't see any other possibilities than ES / GB.


Rels.

I am not mafia.

Your bad push of FF yesterday says otherwise.


It's not bad, it's actually pretty logical.

And it's clear BF was bussed. Wouldn't it be better for scum to just bus BF instead trying somethig else?

I mean, imagine I'm scum with Eversince like you guys are pretty certain is scum. He kills FF this night. He is now useless.

If I am mafia and I bus both him and bf, I gain enough towncred to survive at LYLO.


That is the false part. Everybody attacked BF for its claim, so you bussing him would get you 0 towncred. And you and ES were the main wagons before the claim situation, so it's normal to me that you tried to finish the game right there.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
October 26 2015 16:36 GMT
#2051
On October 27 2015 01:28 FarahBlackwing wrote:
Glowing bear is right in that it doesn't make a lot of sense in that situation with scum mate afk to push the other lynch when confirmed rels was staying put with the others.

If ES is scum, we don't know if she was AFK or not. She could simple wait for the last moment to switch if an opportunity was available.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
October 26 2015 16:46 GMT
#2054
On October 27 2015 01:43 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2015 01:36 Rels wrote:
On October 27 2015 01:28 FarahBlackwing wrote:
Glowing bear is right in that it doesn't make a lot of sense in that situation with scum mate afk to push the other lynch when confirmed rels was staying put with the others.

If ES is scum, we don't know if she was AFK or not. She could simple wait for the last moment to switch if an opportunity was available.


Yes, but if she was AFK I would know it in my QT.

Basically you're fitting the possible situations to scum read me instead of just analysing facts and getting an unbiased conclusion from them

Not true. Shining was scumreading voting ES super early on D1 and D3. Vonthin thought BF and ES were scum before the claim situation and immediately voted BF after the claims.
I'm not saying you're slam dunk mafia, I'm saying you pushing FF is scum indicative, especially compared to Shining's and Vonthin's reactions, which are the other two options.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
October 26 2015 16:47 GMT
#2055
On October 27 2015 01:46 GlowingBear wrote:
I mean, even if you believe ES is town, you're ignoring that I had no backup on changing the votes and that I would voluntarily put myself in the eye of the tornado

+ Show Spoiler +
I Love saying "in the eye of the tornado"

Even if it's actually the quietest place ? p:
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
October 26 2015 20:01 GMT
#2067
Unexpected
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
October 26 2015 20:02 GMT
#2068
##Vote Eversince
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
October 26 2015 20:10 GMT
#2070
Just so it's clear: if you're the vet / doc and your TL name (or IRL name for what I know) is know FecalFeast, now is probably a good time to claim.
=D
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
October 26 2015 20:10 GMT
#2071
not FecalFeast*
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
October 26 2015 21:07 GMT
#2073
(=
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
October 26 2015 22:14 GMT
#2075
On October 27 2015 06:59 FarahBlackwing wrote:
Ty for the game

Sry to have been hard on you =X playing with you was fun
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
October 26 2015 22:36 GMT
#2077
So everybody. Everyone seems to agree on ES being scum. Who is the last one and why ?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
October 26 2015 22:37 GMT
#2078
Going to sleep soon so I hope everybody will have answer when I wake up (=
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
October 27 2015 08:26 GMT
#2091
On October 27 2015 13:42 Fecalfeast wrote:
It has to be the obvious team if they're doing shit to confuse us with nks though, right?

++
It's the same argument for why BF claimed.
Why BF claimed if GB is town and set up for a mislynch ?
Why doesn't mafia kill people the "normal" way if GB is town and set up for a mislynch ?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
October 27 2015 08:46 GMT
#2092
Shining, Vonthin, I would very much love having your thoughts on the last scum, assuming you think ES is scum of course.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
October 27 2015 14:32 GMT
#2095
On October 27 2015 23:31 GlowingBear wrote:
I'll help you with this.

If the night kill was made for you to wifom

And if you can't know why would boxerfred claim like that

Simply do not use these information to scumread anyone

Do you think ES is mafia ?
If yes who is the last one ?
If not who are the two mafias ?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
October 27 2015 15:50 GMT
#2097
On October 27 2015 23:42 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2015 23:32 Rels wrote:
On October 27 2015 23:31 GlowingBear wrote:
I'll help you with this.

If the night kill was made for you to wifom

And if you can't know why would boxerfred claim like that

Simply do not use these information to scumread anyone

Do you think ES is mafia ?
If yes who is the last one ?
If not who are the two mafias ?


I don't really know

The fact that you don't see that ES is scum by VCA is another suspicious thing. If ES is not scum, scum team could have hammered her for instant win.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
October 27 2015 18:19 GMT
#2099
On October 28 2015 02:31 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2015 00:50 Rels wrote:
On October 27 2015 23:42 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 27 2015 23:32 Rels wrote:
On October 27 2015 23:31 GlowingBear wrote:
I'll help you with this.

If the night kill was made for you to wifom

And if you can't know why would boxerfred claim like that

Simply do not use these information to scumread anyone

Do you think ES is mafia ?
If yes who is the last one ?
If not who are the two mafias ?


I don't really know

The fact that you don't see that ES is scum by VCA is another suspicious thing. If ES is not scum, scum team could have hammered her for instant win.


Well, I am town and I was leading the votes. So this argument is invalid.

Unless they were afraid that ES could get killed instead.

OR boxerfred simply wanted to use his breadcrumbs and went for the gr8 plays.

Again, I think we have to evaluate overall gameplay instead of residing in VCA and NKA.


No no no. The team you're saying is bf shining vonthin. Both vonthin and bf were here at eod so they could have hammered es for the win. But not only they didn't, but vonthin explicitly said to fara he wouldn't switch a few minutes before deadline when fara called for a es switch.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
October 27 2015 18:22 GMT
#2100
On October 26 2015 18:25 Rels wrote:
Day 3

boxerfred (4): FecalFeast, Rels, Vonthin, GlowingBear, FarahBlackwing, GlowingBear
Eversince (1): FarahBlackwing, The Shining, FecalFeast, FarahBlackwing
FarahBlackwing (1): Rels, Eversince
FecalFeast (1): boxerfred, GlowingBear
GlowingBear (0): FecalFeast, boxerfred, Rels, The Shining, Vonthin, FecalFeast
Vonthin (0): Rels, FarahBlackwing

At deadline.

On October 26 2015 18:25 Rels wrote:
Day 3

boxerfred (4): FecalFeast, Rels, Vonthin, GlowingBear, FarahBlackwing
Eversince (2): FarahBlackwing, The Shining, FecalFeast
FarahBlackwing (1): Rels, Eversince
FecalFeast (2): boxerfred, GlowingBear
GlowingBear (0): FecalFeast, boxerfred, Rels, The Shining, Vonthin, FecalFeast
Vonthin (0): Rels, FarahBlackwing

A few minutes before deadline, when vonthin refused to switch (I think, did it from memory).
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
October 27 2015 18:24 GMT
#2101
Made a mistake.
On October 26 2015 18:25 Rels wrote:
Day 3

boxerfred (4): FecalFeast, Rels, Vonthin, GlowingBear, FarahBlackwing, GlowingBear
Eversince (2): FarahBlackwing, The Shining, FecalFeast, FarahBlackwing
FarahBlackwing (1): Rels, Eversince
FecalFeast (1): boxerfred, GlowingBear
GlowingBear (0): FecalFeast, boxerfred, Rels, The Shining, Vonthin, FecalFeast
Vonthin (0): Rels, FarahBlackwing

At deadline.

On October 26 2015 18:25 Rels wrote:
Day 3

boxerfred (4): FecalFeast, Rels, Vonthin, GlowingBear, FarahBlackwing
Eversince (1): FarahBlackwing, The Shining, FecalFeast
FarahBlackwing (1): Rels, Eversince
FecalFeast (2): boxerfred, GlowingBear
GlowingBear (0): FecalFeast, boxerfred, Rels, The Shining, Vonthin, FecalFeast
Vonthin (0): Rels, FarahBlackwing

A few minutes before deadline, when vonthin refused to switch (I think, did it from memory).
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