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On October 18 2015 05:33 The Shining wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2015 05:28 FarahBlackwing wrote:
So moosydoosy claimed mafia unprompted and then glowing bear tries to cover foe it.
That doesn't make any sense I think both of you are mafia now. It makes no sense logically for that to happen. I think this is your first, or one of, your first games here, right? Unfortunately that's how TL works sometimes. People like to start the game off silly and carefree until a good majority of the players show up and get down and dirty
On October 18 2015 05:34 The Shining wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2015 05:31 MoosyDoosy wrote:On October 18 2015 05:30 The Shining wrote:
Ohaithere guys. This is probably one of the first games that im not starting halfway into the day phase. This is weird.
Yeah I'm at like a 90-95% town roll rate and it apparently hasn't changed. It's amusing, but boring.
Someone be obvscum for D1 red flip pls I am such a shiny town. K i might want to lynch you. I am the shiny town here, good sir, why do you want to be like me? Because you are scum!
Shining finds silly start "unfortunate" and immediately starts being silly ? Weird
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On October 18 2015 05:58 GlowingBear wrote:
There is no such thing as "deciding a meta". You play to win and that's all.
Von-guy, what do you think of Moosy here?
Oh yeah ? I thought that's exactly what you did last game ? Let me quote what you said post game:
On October 16 2015 21:50 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On October 16 2015 21:42 Rels wrote:On October 16 2015 20:30 GlowingBear wrote:On October 16 2015 16:19 Rels wrote:On October 16 2015 10:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:Well Rels had some really scummy shit like "If you two guys dont talk i am gonna lynch you". then Onegu says "sorry bro no" Rels: "okay, well i am gonna lynch this bitch who wants to lynch me"  LOL yeah. Didn't want to lynch my buddy right ? p: There is an explanation though. Just before I want to sleep, CopCake implied GB and Xata were scum together. It didn't make sense. Of course it didn't make her mafia, but town!Rels obviously didn't see that. p: Yeah scum!Rels is really more tunneled than town!Rels. Some mafia resorts on unflipped association just because it is an easier way to fabricate reads. The fact that she scum read you and connected me to you, but went against ME instead of you was very scummy. Then she makes us mafia with Xatalos. And calls me mafia for "knowing she doesn't play like that as mafia" just because we played a game together. It WAS scummy and it is pretty damn telling it was, because 9 people voted her. And if any veteran come here and say it was town's fault, not hers, I must say that your hypocrisy reached a surprisingly high level. For the record, I'm not berating her, I'm defending the lynch on her this time, which wasn't bad AT ALL Yeah but I thought she was town for the way she was behaving, totally different from the firefly game. I mean, if rayn had done exactly that, he was scum 100%; but not copcake. But that's a meta thing, I agree she was rightfully the lynch if we discard meta. And she was 100% right about Slam. The way he handled the lynch made him 100% scum, I don't know how we all missed it somehow. "copcake is 100% town! Not gonna do anything about it though. Not even cause a no lynch to avoid lynching town." Super different from TT's and Koshi's "not sure about Copcake but I guess there are weird things about her" Well, I didn't catch up the thread at that time since I was studying and doing an exam yesterday. I was going to catch up today lol Koshi had a similar behaviour. That's why I said "Koshi tomorrow". He even ranted on people for having lynched her lol. The fact that she was playing differently doesn't mean she wouldn't be mafia here. I usually play differently every couple of games regardless of alignment. This time, for instance, I played a very straight forward game, and I don't usually do that as town.
GB is putting suspicion on Moosy for a reason he doesn't believe. He might be mafia.
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On October 18 2015 20:12 sicklucker wrote:
hi rels!
Yo. Thoughts on GB ?
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On October 18 2015 07:35 scott31337 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2015 07:00 MoosyDoosy wrote:On October 18 2015 06:57 scott31337 wrote:On October 18 2015 06:38 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I mean. I'll give you guys a legitimate reason to scumread me if you want it. Right now the stuff ya'll are flinging is weak. Explain your vote on GB like I'm five years old. I decide to have a bit of fun as GB was my Mafia partner in the game where I doubled bused my partners. As a result, I ask him as a joke if I can bus him this game. GB understands the joke and says that I should say it in the QT. As a continuation of the joke I say it's too late and remark that I'll be confirmed town after the "bus" and then vote for GB. Just was making sure - Thank you.
REALLY BRO ? YOU REMARKED HE WAS JOKING AND YOU WERE JUST MAKING SURE ??? THAT S EXACTLY WHAT I THOUGHT READING YOUR POSTS. NOT.
On October 18 2015 06:33 scott31337 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2015 05:26 MoosyDoosy wrote:On October 18 2015 05:25 GlowingBear wrote:On October 18 2015 05:21 MoosyDoosy wrote:
GB can i bus you again? And there is a QT to discuss this Moosy, you shouldn't be telling that to everyone else welp too late. ##Vote: GlowingBear And a shit early vote. Now he's spamming up the thread. I'm not caring for this play so far.
On October 18 2015 06:57 scott31337 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2015 06:38 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I mean. I'll give you guys a legitimate reason to scumread me if you want it. Right now the stuff ya'll are flinging is weak. Explain your vote on GB like I'm five years old.
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On October 18 2015 08:50 The Shining wrote:
Because I'm bored and no one is doing anything and half the game hasn't shown up. And I've been known to take things super seriously so I'm trying to break out of that and be lax this game.
So are you scum? Because that sounds like TMI. How would you know that it's actual townies that are doing the shitposting and causing chaos?
OK this post is super bad.
1 - feels concerned about Vonthin's question so much so he has to justify himself
2 - then attacks him for TMI
So the first thing he feels the need to do is defend himself, then attack back. This is a scum mentality
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On October 18 2015 10:54 GlowingBear wrote:(1) Farah looks townie for her posts. She is objective and her opening is straight forward to the point, asking "what is a bus" when she saw something she couldn't understand in thread. A little bit of WIFOM argument: I don't think she would ask what is it directly to the thread, but in the scum QT. As a first-timer, I would expect that she would be a little cautious before posting things in thread and be agressively scumhunting if she was scum. The only thing that is making me wary of her is that she is not trying to see players coming through all perspectives even when I inquired her to do so. Being that aggressive and tunneled already in the beginning of the game isn't townie, and it's very rare on townie first-timers. (2) The Shining's opening is horrendous IMO. It felt forced and tried to hard to give us the idea that he is town. The "someone be obvscum" thing isn't convincing. I don't like it. Also, these posts doesn't add up: + Show Spoiler +On October 18 2015 05:33 The Shining wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2015 05:28 FarahBlackwing wrote:
So moosydoosy claimed mafia unprompted and then glowing bear tries to cover foe it.
That doesn't make any sense I think both of you are mafia now. It makes no sense logically for that to happen. I think this is your first, or one of, your first games here, right? Unfortunately that's how TL works sometimes. People like to start the game off silly and carefree until a good majority of the players show up and get down and dirty On October 18 2015 05:34 The Shining wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2015 05:31 MoosyDoosy wrote:On October 18 2015 05:30 The Shining wrote:
Ohaithere guys. This is probably one of the first games that im not starting halfway into the day phase. This is weird.
Yeah I'm at like a 90-95% town roll rate and it apparently hasn't changed. It's amusing, but boring.
Someone be obvscum for D1 red flip pls I am such a shiny town. K i might want to lynch you. I am the shiny town here, good sir, why do you want to be like me? Because you are scum! If the TL meta UNFORTUNATELY have the joke phase, why participating in it? I mean, if you don't like it, why estimulate it? It doesn't make sense to me. This post is very okay, tho: + Show Spoiler +On October 18 2015 06:59 The Shining wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2015 06:33 scott31337 wrote:On October 18 2015 05:15 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Also I kind of regret signing up for BH games in the first place. I always roll town in them which is getting super super boring. This seems like your trying to push this a little too much - just a thought here... On October 18 2015 05:26 MoosyDoosy wrote:On October 18 2015 05:25 GlowingBear wrote:On October 18 2015 05:21 MoosyDoosy wrote:
GB can i bus you again? And there is a QT to discuss this Moosy, you shouldn't be telling that to everyone else welp too late. ##Vote: GlowingBear And a shit early vote. Now he's spamming up the thread. I'm not caring for this play so far. GB is a slight townlean - and that's about it. This entrance is weak. Scott doesn't comment on anyone else except a slight townlean on GB(who is asking people about Moosy, the only other player mentioned here). He distances himself from his first thought in saying Moosy he's pushing the fact that he's town a little hard but its "just a thought." Then he picks on an obvious joke vote and conversation between GB and Moosy to slight town GB and suspect Moosy? Why is GB slight townlean? Flesh that out for me. (3) MoosyDoosy is being stupid, which isn't alignment indicative for him. But this post isn't good: + Show Spoiler +On October 18 2015 05:36 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I am bored. And i am trying to decide on a meta for this game. Should I go for the rayn townie that catches scum by looking back in the thread for inconsistencies and through hard questioning? Should I go for the rsoul townie that catches scum through relentless posts and tone reads? Or should I just go my idgaf mode and not care the whole game.
mmm...choices choices choices ... It's just a fluffy post that doesn't make sense. I can't understand what he means with "choosing a meta". There is no "choosing", you play the way you think is better or funnier, and your meta will be a consequence of it. Why is moosy considering "not caring for the game"? Again, it's just a post where he says nothing, and I don't like it. He answered me but I don't think it was satisfying. (4) KelsierSC can't do this as town: Show nested quote +On October 18 2015 08:01 KelsierSC wrote:
moosy and then one of GB/shining are scum probably.
The mafia QT probably looks like "hi dude we both rolled mafia LOLOLOL let's shit up the thread"
Kelsier is a very logical player, saying something this bad as town isn't his fashion. (5) Vonthin, I wasn't liking this guy too much. Especially because he said this: Show nested quote +On October 18 2015 08:38 Vonthin wrote:
I don't understand this game lol, nothing like the few games I've played in or obs'd. So much shitposting to provoke people or to just cause chaos, I don't know why towns people would do this (i) he opened the game by saying town should not care to survive and go scum hunting, but then (ii) he does nothing in order to scumhunt and (iii) participates in the jokes just to say this. Reading this post in a vacuum, however, conveys town vibes it really seems he is struggling with the terrible start. I'm not sure what to think.
That's all I have for now. So, basically, Farah townlean, Kelsier scumlean, others null-ish. I'd like people to talk about things I've brought here.
OK GB is probably town for being the first to tryhard.
GB, I agree with most of this.
The Moosy part is bad, you did it last game.
I think Vonthin being so prompt to participate in the jokes is a towntell for a newbie.
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On October 18 2015 11:35 The Shining wrote:
Not sure about Kels, either. You might be right but before I go into it, I'd like to know if he was actually serious about that post. Kelsier can you answer this for me?
LOL
"KSC I think you are scum. Confirm/deny ?"
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On October 18 2015 14:12 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2015 08:01 KelsierSC wrote:
moosy and then one of GB/shining are scum probably.
The mafia QT probably looks like "hi dude we both rolled mafia LOLOLOL let's shit up the thread"
I feel like thats just following the bad newbie thread sentiment
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On October 18 2015 17:24 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2015 11:35 The Shining wrote:
And yay GB is trying to get the game started. Let's see...
I agree with the Farah read. I agree that that question would've been better off in the scumQT if she rolled scum and it is a WIFOM argument but the timing of it seemed genuinely curious and not holding back in her questioning of Moosy and GBs jokes is another town point. As far as the tunneling goes, keeping in mind she's a newer player, I could understand the hesitance to look more broadly because she's being asked to do so by GB, who she suspected could be scum. I wouldn't want to cooperate with someone I think is scum, either.
Sigh. My openings are always horrendous, especially in town games. Thanks for noticing. The joke phase isn't something I've ever really been apart of and not something I'm a huge fan of, but seeing as how it was the only thing going on, I didn't want to just sit around and not post. I find it a little odd, though, that you pick on my horrendous opening but then find my Scott post very okay. I guess it makes sense if you still have me at null, though.
Moosy is pretty null to me right now. His banter is NAI to me and the picking a meta talk seemed like it was just more of him trying to keep the joke phase up but the longer he does things like that without actually scum hunting, the more I'll suspect him. I didn't like the threatening to not care, either, but knowing he has double bussed to win a game before(meaning he cared enough to do so) makes it NAI, as well.
Not sure about Kels, either. You might be right but before I go into it, I'd like to know if he was actually serious about that post. Kelsier can you answer this for me?
I'd like Vonthin to answer what I asked, too, before I go too in-depth on him but from what I've seen so far, he could just be frustrated town not knowing how to deal with a slow day start.
Overall I'd give GB a slight townlean just for making this post and trying to push discussion, as I agree with a few things in the post. GB what do you think of boxerfreds entrance? Why wasn't he included in your list? The joke phase between the three of you was so incredibly unfunny and I would have happily lynched all of you, upon reflection there was probably one mafia trying way too hard. Moosy was just spamming complete nonsense it made me want to give up reading. That was my interpretation of the events up to that point. GlowingBear's list post: Before looking in detail at what he posted it feels too early to be making a list post. Half the game hasn't posted, it doesn't feel correct. Furthermore I can't understand why he feels the need to make a list post for one townlean that has doubt to it, one scumlean and then just null players. the only post that anyone would have cared about at all was him calling me scummy. His scumread of me is, in typical GB fashion, wrong. I've explained my post above. The rest of his list doesn't make logical sense to me but again that is typical GB. I want to wait and see but if the lynch was now i'd lynch GB and Moosy.
"GB's read of me is wrong, as usual. In fact, all his reads are illogical, as usual. Oh BTW, he's scum."
Does. Not. Compute. He's talking about GB as if he's town and wrong, but he's scumreading him.
On October 18 2015 17:24 KelsierSC wrote:
The rest of his list doesn't make logical sense to me but again that is typical GB.
KSC: Please expand.
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Probably town: Vonthin, Fara, GB, sicklucker, Moosy.
Would lynch: Shining, scott, KSC.
The others are either null or useless. Disclaimer: I WILL get a useless guy lynched if there is any at deadline.
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Rels, having a plan in a game and having a meta are two completely different things...
"Playing a straight forward game" =\= "I'm going to emulate other player's meta"
The way you came to the thread is exactly the same as your last scum game. You might be mafia again
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On October 18 2015 21:17 GlowingBear wrote:
Rels, having a plan in a game and having a meta are two completely different things...
"Playing a straight forward game" =\= "I'm going to emulate other player's meta"
The way you came to the thread is exactly the same as your last scum game. You might be mafia again
What do you think of sicklucker ?
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On October 18 2015 17:24 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2015 11:35 The Shining wrote:
And yay GB is trying to get the game started. Let's see...
I agree with the Farah read. I agree that that question would've been better off in the scumQT if she rolled scum and it is a WIFOM argument but the timing of it seemed genuinely curious and not holding back in her questioning of Moosy and GBs jokes is another town point. As far as the tunneling goes, keeping in mind she's a newer player, I could understand the hesitance to look more broadly because she's being asked to do so by GB, who she suspected could be scum. I wouldn't want to cooperate with someone I think is scum, either.
Sigh. My openings are always horrendous, especially in town games. Thanks for noticing. The joke phase isn't something I've ever really been apart of and not something I'm a huge fan of, but seeing as how it was the only thing going on, I didn't want to just sit around and not post. I find it a little odd, though, that you pick on my horrendous opening but then find my Scott post very okay. I guess it makes sense if you still have me at null, though.
Moosy is pretty null to me right now. His banter is NAI to me and the picking a meta talk seemed like it was just more of him trying to keep the joke phase up but the longer he does things like that without actually scum hunting, the more I'll suspect him. I didn't like the threatening to not care, either, but knowing he has double bussed to win a game before(meaning he cared enough to do so) makes it NAI, as well.
Not sure about Kels, either. You might be right but before I go into it, I'd like to know if he was actually serious about that post. Kelsier can you answer this for me?
I'd like Vonthin to answer what I asked, too, before I go too in-depth on him but from what I've seen so far, he could just be frustrated town not knowing how to deal with a slow day start.
Overall I'd give GB a slight townlean just for making this post and trying to push discussion, as I agree with a few things in the post. GB what do you think of boxerfreds entrance? Why wasn't he included in your list? The joke phase between the three of you was so incredibly unfunny and I would have happily lynched all of you, upon reflection there was probably one mafia trying way too hard. Moosy was just spamming complete nonsense it made me want to give up reading. That was my interpretation of the events up to that point. (A)GlowingBear's list post: Before looking in detail at what he posted it feels too early to be making a list post. Half the game hasn't posted, it doesn't feel correct. (b)Furthermore I can't understand why he feels the need to make a list post for one townlean that has doubt to it, one scumlean and then just null players. the only post that anyone would have cared about at all was him calling me scummy.His scumread of me is, in typical GB fashion, wrong. I've explained my post above. The rest of his list doesn't make logical sense to me but again that is typical GB. I want to wait and see but if the lynch was now i'd lynch GB and Moosy.
Dude, Kelsier, I've been trying to play a good game with you but you insist with this. I have a history of doing "stupid stunts" for some people, but I am playing a very straight forward game since the last one. So IF you're town, actually read my list instead of just saying it's classic GB with illogical reads, because they are far from illogical.
If you have actually read it you would realise I was commenting ONLY on people that had posted, so point (A) doesn't make sense. Point (B): it's a post where I share my vision of what has been posted so far and I ask players to bounce their reads on it. You see, I've seen a lot of alignment indicstive behaviours - which you fail to realise/discuss just to base a read on a joke phase. And the joke phase wasn't even that long. I started playing the exact moment the game started, and you should see it if you actually read my filter.
If you're town, please, play the game. If not, die.
##Vote: KelsierSC
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On October 18 2015 21:19 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2015 21:17 GlowingBear wrote:
Rels, having a plan in a game and having a meta are two completely different things...
"Playing a straight forward game" =\= "I'm going to emulate other player's meta"
The way you came to the thread is exactly the same as your last scum game. You might be mafia again What do you think of sicklucker ?
I'm hating him, so it probably means he is town
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GlowingBear is top town for me right now, not only did he get the game to move on from the "joke" phase but there's also this:
On October 18 2015 05:58 GlowingBear wrote:
There is no such thing as "deciding a meta". You play to win and that's all.
This is town thinking.
As for the FarahBlackwing, there's a paranoid scenario I can see where the whole thing was orchestrated in advance but that's not relevant for now, I suppose. Unflipped players and all that.
On October 18 2015 17:24 KelsierSC wrote:
GlowingBear's list post: Before looking in detail at what he posted it feels too early to be making a list post. Half the game hasn't posted, it doesn't feel correct. Furthermore I can't understand why he feels the need to make a list post for one townlean that has doubt to it, one scumlean and then just null players. the only post that anyone would have cared about at all was him calling me scummy.
Why wouldn't he make a list post? Some reads are needed to get the "serious" phase of the game started, I don't quite see that list post being scum motivated at all.
On October 18 2015 17:24 KelsierSC wrote:
His scumread of me is, in typical GB fashion, wrong. I've explained my post above.
The rest of his list doesn't make logical sense to me but again that is typical GB.
I want to wait and see but if the lynch was now i'd lynch GB and Moosy.
So the read is wrong (ie. he's town misreading) but you'd want to lynch him (ie. he's scum)? What?
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Explanation: the sicklucker I've played a long time ago didn't make much sense as mafia, but even less sense as town. He annoyed me as fuck. Last game was liking him, and he turned out to be mafia. This game I'm not, so I have this gut feeling he might be town. Other than that I didn't see anything objectively alignment indicative
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Actually,
##Vote: KelsierSC
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On October 18 2015 12:50 Vonthin wrote:My reads so far: Town:Scott-No shitposts, most of his posts are good questions Farah- Not much to read on but I've like what I've seen so far Glowingbear-Besides some of the banter with Moosy his posts look pro town to me, raising good points and asking good questions especially to myself Shining - See no problems with his filter cept he went with the funny opening for too long Boxer- Not much for me to go on, asked Mooser to stop shitposting was nice but I feel like the limited time thing is an excuse I have seen scum use often. More of a null read but 2 lazy to make a category just for him since he is the only one besides the 4 who haven't posted ScumMooser- Lots of shitposting and spamming posts without any substance. This post still bothers me, even if you are town and want to spam non stop you still should care about looking town which makes things easier for the rest of us Show nested quote +On October 18 2015 05:47 MoosyDoosy wrote:On October 18 2015 05:45 Vonthin wrote:On October 18 2015 05:44 MoosyDoosy wrote:On October 18 2015 05:44 boxerfred wrote:
hey guys I'm here. I plan to spam so hard you won't be able to read me. Don't you want to be read as a townie though? I don't particularly care tbh. Fecalfeast - His first post was not a good way to start imo, second one doesn't tell me anything earlier though I do have some sympathy for the allergies. Kelseir - His posts were all fluff and negative for the most part Anyways its bed time
Vonthin, can you explain me what you found good in Scott's questions that deserved to be a town read?
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On October 18 2015 21:01 Rels wrote:
Would lynch: Shining, scott, KSC.
Care to expand your reasoning on scott31337?
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