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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
October 26 2015 15:27 GMT
#2041
On October 26 2015 18:19 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2015 04:54 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 26 2015 04:51 The Shining wrote:
I'm here, I'm just clueless and the last 10 pages are a shitshow

FF claimed veteran
But later he considered SL to be a medic dodge

Man
A lie 6 minutes before deadline so we don't have time to fact check
Pretty nice try


Dude I was typing fast so I worded it wrong but I even quoted where FF said SL could be a medic dodge.
I'm adorable.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
October 26 2015 15:28 GMT
#2042
On October 26 2015 13:44 The Shining wrote:
Like...BF and Vonthin both had eachother as scum for a majority of the game, if not the entire game, but neither one really cased the other nor pushed him. I'm thinking it could've been a set up to bus if need be. Their interactions are just strange.


Awesome.

Am I mafia?
I'm adorable.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
October 26 2015 15:33 GMT
#2043
On October 26 2015 21:08 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2015 09:45 Vonthin wrote:
Yeah I think GB/Boxer and then either ES or Farah is a good scum team. After looking over GB's filter I agree with all the points about him in your posts. Only thing that bothers me about this team is GB has called out Boxer a couple times like he was the first one last time to call TMI on the Boxer dropping the Moosy vote and then defending him poorly by leaving his vote on FF for shit reasons

Show nested quote +
On October 25 2015 04:34 Vonthin wrote:
GB/Boxer are scum mates. I feel at this point Boxer is trying to separate himself from GB who has an excellent chance of getting lynched today. His case adding onto the points FF have made are the first case he has made this game that I don't see any scum motivation behind. GB thinks BF is town because he is trying hard to lynch him but not FF whose case and points on him are just as good as BF's. Before BF made this case on GB, GB thought he could be scum with the TMI on the MD lynch but now he is town for making a case against GB. Boxer also seems to be tunneling GB pretty hard when at this point you need to keep everyone in mind or else we lose.

Third scummate is either ES or Farah. Still learning towards ES as Farah is finally starting to scumhunt and not just defending herself and ES still really hasn't done anything worthwhile besides coming in and piling onto the Farah suspicions and just quoting a GB post saying she doesn't like it.

Lynch Boxer/GB today and tomorrow, get more reads from Farah and ES to determine which one of them is scum. Win game.


Show nested quote +
On October 25 2015 05:12 Vonthin wrote:
Farah who do you think are ES's scummates? What are your thoughts on a GB/Boxer being scummates with ES

Right now rereading ES filter again I am getting more inclined to think she is scum over you. Now that you are done defending yourself/arguing with Rels and others and are scum hunting is good but you are back to tunneling ES. If you can make some good cases for other people it will help me being sure on this as you could very well be possibly scum for tunneling all game on 1 towny trying to win the game with a push on her today.

These posts at the start of D3 before any claim situation are super good. I really don't see any other possibilities than ES / GB.


Rels.

I am not mafia.
I'm adorable.
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 26 2015 15:37 GMT
#2044
Then proove it? Its obvious shining thinks its vont+ever.

I'm torn between vont/ever and glowingbear/ever.

GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
October 26 2015 15:40 GMT
#2045
On October 27 2015 00:37 FarahBlackwing wrote:
Then proove it? Its obvious shining thinks its vont+ever.

I'm torn between vont/ever and glowingbear/ever.



I'm not mafia. I can't prove it. I simply ain't.
I'm adorable.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
October 26 2015 15:42 GMT
#2046
On October 27 2015 00:33 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2015 21:08 Rels wrote:
On October 24 2015 09:45 Vonthin wrote:
Yeah I think GB/Boxer and then either ES or Farah is a good scum team. After looking over GB's filter I agree with all the points about him in your posts. Only thing that bothers me about this team is GB has called out Boxer a couple times like he was the first one last time to call TMI on the Boxer dropping the Moosy vote and then defending him poorly by leaving his vote on FF for shit reasons

On October 25 2015 04:34 Vonthin wrote:
GB/Boxer are scum mates. I feel at this point Boxer is trying to separate himself from GB who has an excellent chance of getting lynched today. His case adding onto the points FF have made are the first case he has made this game that I don't see any scum motivation behind. GB thinks BF is town because he is trying hard to lynch him but not FF whose case and points on him are just as good as BF's. Before BF made this case on GB, GB thought he could be scum with the TMI on the MD lynch but now he is town for making a case against GB. Boxer also seems to be tunneling GB pretty hard when at this point you need to keep everyone in mind or else we lose.

Third scummate is either ES or Farah. Still learning towards ES as Farah is finally starting to scumhunt and not just defending herself and ES still really hasn't done anything worthwhile besides coming in and piling onto the Farah suspicions and just quoting a GB post saying she doesn't like it.

Lynch Boxer/GB today and tomorrow, get more reads from Farah and ES to determine which one of them is scum. Win game.


On October 25 2015 05:12 Vonthin wrote:
Farah who do you think are ES's scummates? What are your thoughts on a GB/Boxer being scummates with ES

Right now rereading ES filter again I am getting more inclined to think she is scum over you. Now that you are done defending yourself/arguing with Rels and others and are scum hunting is good but you are back to tunneling ES. If you can make some good cases for other people it will help me being sure on this as you could very well be possibly scum for tunneling all game on 1 towny trying to win the game with a push on her today.

These posts at the start of D3 before any claim situation are super good. I really don't see any other possibilities than ES / GB.


Rels.

I am not mafia.

Your bad push of FF yesterday says otherwise.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
October 26 2015 15:49 GMT
#2047
On October 27 2015 00:42 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2015 00:33 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 26 2015 21:08 Rels wrote:
On October 24 2015 09:45 Vonthin wrote:
Yeah I think GB/Boxer and then either ES or Farah is a good scum team. After looking over GB's filter I agree with all the points about him in your posts. Only thing that bothers me about this team is GB has called out Boxer a couple times like he was the first one last time to call TMI on the Boxer dropping the Moosy vote and then defending him poorly by leaving his vote on FF for shit reasons

On October 25 2015 04:34 Vonthin wrote:
GB/Boxer are scum mates. I feel at this point Boxer is trying to separate himself from GB who has an excellent chance of getting lynched today. His case adding onto the points FF have made are the first case he has made this game that I don't see any scum motivation behind. GB thinks BF is town because he is trying hard to lynch him but not FF whose case and points on him are just as good as BF's. Before BF made this case on GB, GB thought he could be scum with the TMI on the MD lynch but now he is town for making a case against GB. Boxer also seems to be tunneling GB pretty hard when at this point you need to keep everyone in mind or else we lose.

Third scummate is either ES or Farah. Still learning towards ES as Farah is finally starting to scumhunt and not just defending herself and ES still really hasn't done anything worthwhile besides coming in and piling onto the Farah suspicions and just quoting a GB post saying she doesn't like it.

Lynch Boxer/GB today and tomorrow, get more reads from Farah and ES to determine which one of them is scum. Win game.


On October 25 2015 05:12 Vonthin wrote:
Farah who do you think are ES's scummates? What are your thoughts on a GB/Boxer being scummates with ES

Right now rereading ES filter again I am getting more inclined to think she is scum over you. Now that you are done defending yourself/arguing with Rels and others and are scum hunting is good but you are back to tunneling ES. If you can make some good cases for other people it will help me being sure on this as you could very well be possibly scum for tunneling all game on 1 towny trying to win the game with a push on her today.

These posts at the start of D3 before any claim situation are super good. I really don't see any other possibilities than ES / GB.


Rels.

I am not mafia.

Your bad push of FF yesterday says otherwise.


It's not bad, it's actually pretty logical.

And it's clear BF was bussed. Wouldn't it be better for scum to just bus BF instead trying somethig else?

I mean, imagine I'm scum with Eversince like you guys are pretty certain is scum. He kills FF this night. He is now useless.

If I am mafia and I bus both him and bf, I gain enough towncred to survive at LYLO.

If I am mafia and I try to diverge the lynch from BF today, the probability of getting lynched later is huge. So I am basically playing against my win con.

I've pushed FF because I really believed he was fake claiming
I'm adorable.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
October 26 2015 15:52 GMT
#2048
On October 27 2015 00:49 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2015 00:42 Rels wrote:
On October 27 2015 00:33 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 26 2015 21:08 Rels wrote:
On October 24 2015 09:45 Vonthin wrote:
Yeah I think GB/Boxer and then either ES or Farah is a good scum team. After looking over GB's filter I agree with all the points about him in your posts. Only thing that bothers me about this team is GB has called out Boxer a couple times like he was the first one last time to call TMI on the Boxer dropping the Moosy vote and then defending him poorly by leaving his vote on FF for shit reasons

On October 25 2015 04:34 Vonthin wrote:
GB/Boxer are scum mates. I feel at this point Boxer is trying to separate himself from GB who has an excellent chance of getting lynched today. His case adding onto the points FF have made are the first case he has made this game that I don't see any scum motivation behind. GB thinks BF is town because he is trying hard to lynch him but not FF whose case and points on him are just as good as BF's. Before BF made this case on GB, GB thought he could be scum with the TMI on the MD lynch but now he is town for making a case against GB. Boxer also seems to be tunneling GB pretty hard when at this point you need to keep everyone in mind or else we lose.

Third scummate is either ES or Farah. Still learning towards ES as Farah is finally starting to scumhunt and not just defending herself and ES still really hasn't done anything worthwhile besides coming in and piling onto the Farah suspicions and just quoting a GB post saying she doesn't like it.

Lynch Boxer/GB today and tomorrow, get more reads from Farah and ES to determine which one of them is scum. Win game.


On October 25 2015 05:12 Vonthin wrote:
Farah who do you think are ES's scummates? What are your thoughts on a GB/Boxer being scummates with ES

Right now rereading ES filter again I am getting more inclined to think she is scum over you. Now that you are done defending yourself/arguing with Rels and others and are scum hunting is good but you are back to tunneling ES. If you can make some good cases for other people it will help me being sure on this as you could very well be possibly scum for tunneling all game on 1 towny trying to win the game with a push on her today.

These posts at the start of D3 before any claim situation are super good. I really don't see any other possibilities than ES / GB.


Rels.

I am not mafia.

Your bad push of FF yesterday says otherwise.


It's not bad, it's actually pretty logical.

And it's clear BF was bussed. Wouldn't it be better for scum to just bus BF instead trying somethig else?

I mean, imagine I'm scum with Eversince like you guys are pretty certain is scum. He kills FF this night. He is now useless.

If I am mafia and I bus both him and bf, I gain enough towncred to survive at LYLO.


That is the false part. Everybody attacked BF for its claim, so you bussing him would get you 0 towncred. And you and ES were the main wagons before the claim situation, so it's normal to me that you tried to finish the game right there.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
October 26 2015 15:55 GMT
#2049
On October 27 2015 00:52 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2015 00:49 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 27 2015 00:42 Rels wrote:
On October 27 2015 00:33 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 26 2015 21:08 Rels wrote:
On October 24 2015 09:45 Vonthin wrote:
Yeah I think GB/Boxer and then either ES or Farah is a good scum team. After looking over GB's filter I agree with all the points about him in your posts. Only thing that bothers me about this team is GB has called out Boxer a couple times like he was the first one last time to call TMI on the Boxer dropping the Moosy vote and then defending him poorly by leaving his vote on FF for shit reasons

On October 25 2015 04:34 Vonthin wrote:
GB/Boxer are scum mates. I feel at this point Boxer is trying to separate himself from GB who has an excellent chance of getting lynched today. His case adding onto the points FF have made are the first case he has made this game that I don't see any scum motivation behind. GB thinks BF is town because he is trying hard to lynch him but not FF whose case and points on him are just as good as BF's. Before BF made this case on GB, GB thought he could be scum with the TMI on the MD lynch but now he is town for making a case against GB. Boxer also seems to be tunneling GB pretty hard when at this point you need to keep everyone in mind or else we lose.

Third scummate is either ES or Farah. Still learning towards ES as Farah is finally starting to scumhunt and not just defending herself and ES still really hasn't done anything worthwhile besides coming in and piling onto the Farah suspicions and just quoting a GB post saying she doesn't like it.

Lynch Boxer/GB today and tomorrow, get more reads from Farah and ES to determine which one of them is scum. Win game.


On October 25 2015 05:12 Vonthin wrote:
Farah who do you think are ES's scummates? What are your thoughts on a GB/Boxer being scummates with ES

Right now rereading ES filter again I am getting more inclined to think she is scum over you. Now that you are done defending yourself/arguing with Rels and others and are scum hunting is good but you are back to tunneling ES. If you can make some good cases for other people it will help me being sure on this as you could very well be possibly scum for tunneling all game on 1 towny trying to win the game with a push on her today.

These posts at the start of D3 before any claim situation are super good. I really don't see any other possibilities than ES / GB.


Rels.

I am not mafia.

Your bad push of FF yesterday says otherwise.


It's not bad, it's actually pretty logical.

And it's clear BF was bussed. Wouldn't it be better for scum to just bus BF instead trying somethig else?

I mean, imagine I'm scum with Eversince like you guys are pretty certain is scum. He kills FF this night. He is now useless.

If I am mafia and I bus both him and bf, I gain enough towncred to survive at LYLO.


That is the false part. Everybody attacked BF for its claim, so you bussing him would get you 0 towncred. And you and ES were the main wagons before the claim situation, so it's normal to me that you tried to finish the game right there.


So I've tried to lynch someone not boxerfred or Eversince without the help of Eversince who has been already strongly scum read only to have myself in the eye of the tornado.

Ok.
I'm adorable.
FarahBlackwing
Profile Joined October 2015
270 Posts
October 26 2015 16:28 GMT
#2050
Glowing bear is right in that it doesn't make a lot of sense in that situation with scum mate afk to push the other lynch when confirmed rels was staying put with the others.

Hrm, will think on it after sushi
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
October 26 2015 16:36 GMT
#2051
On October 27 2015 01:28 FarahBlackwing wrote:
Glowing bear is right in that it doesn't make a lot of sense in that situation with scum mate afk to push the other lynch when confirmed rels was staying put with the others.

If ES is scum, we don't know if she was AFK or not. She could simple wait for the last moment to switch if an opportunity was available.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
October 26 2015 16:43 GMT
#2052
On October 27 2015 01:36 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2015 01:28 FarahBlackwing wrote:
Glowing bear is right in that it doesn't make a lot of sense in that situation with scum mate afk to push the other lynch when confirmed rels was staying put with the others.

If ES is scum, we don't know if she was AFK or not. She could simple wait for the last moment to switch if an opportunity was available.


Yes, but if she was AFK I would know it in my QT.

Basically you're fitting the possible situations to scum read me instead of just analysing facts and getting an unbiased conclusion from them
I'm adorable.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
October 26 2015 16:46 GMT
#2053
I mean, even if you believe ES is town, you're ignoring that I had no backup on changing the votes and that I would voluntarily put myself in the eye of the tornado

+ Show Spoiler +
I Love saying "in the eye of the tornado"
I'm adorable.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
October 26 2015 16:46 GMT
#2054
On October 27 2015 01:43 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2015 01:36 Rels wrote:
On October 27 2015 01:28 FarahBlackwing wrote:
Glowing bear is right in that it doesn't make a lot of sense in that situation with scum mate afk to push the other lynch when confirmed rels was staying put with the others.

If ES is scum, we don't know if she was AFK or not. She could simple wait for the last moment to switch if an opportunity was available.


Yes, but if she was AFK I would know it in my QT.

Basically you're fitting the possible situations to scum read me instead of just analysing facts and getting an unbiased conclusion from them

Not true. Shining was scumreading voting ES super early on D1 and D3. Vonthin thought BF and ES were scum before the claim situation and immediately voted BF after the claims.
I'm not saying you're slam dunk mafia, I'm saying you pushing FF is scum indicative, especially compared to Shining's and Vonthin's reactions, which are the other two options.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
October 26 2015 16:47 GMT
#2055
On October 27 2015 01:46 GlowingBear wrote:
I mean, even if you believe ES is town, you're ignoring that I had no backup on changing the votes and that I would voluntarily put myself in the eye of the tornado

+ Show Spoiler +
I Love saying "in the eye of the tornado"

Even if it's actually the quietest place ? p:
Vonthin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States2864 Posts
October 26 2015 17:13 GMT
#2056
Can we talk about the possible motivations behind BFs claim? He had to have some sort of reasoning behind it to throw away his life like that.

If GB was town why would he claim then? The vote was 4-2 in favor of GB over ES. If he was town why take the target off GB and put it on himself when scum could get an easy mislynch on him to end the game?

It only makes sense to me to make this claim if GB is scum and possibly the RB and that BF wanted to take the bullet for him and try to give him town cred at the same time.

I still don't see how the team is anything but BF/GB/ES still
Best Trashcan NA - LoL Summoner. SKT / CLG / Liquid
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
October 26 2015 17:54 GMT
#2057
On October 27 2015 01:46 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2015 01:43 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 27 2015 01:36 Rels wrote:
On October 27 2015 01:28 FarahBlackwing wrote:
Glowing bear is right in that it doesn't make a lot of sense in that situation with scum mate afk to push the other lynch when confirmed rels was staying put with the others.

If ES is scum, we don't know if she was AFK or not. She could simple wait for the last moment to switch if an opportunity was available.


Yes, but if she was AFK I would know it in my QT.

Basically you're fitting the possible situations to scum read me instead of just analysing facts and getting an unbiased conclusion from them

Not true. Shining was scumreading voting ES super early on D1 and D3. Vonthin thought BF and ES were scum before the claim situation and immediately voted BF after the claims.
I'm not saying you're slam dunk mafia, I'm saying you pushing FF is scum indicative, especially compared to Shining's and Vonthin's reactions, which are the other two options.



What I mean, Rels, is that if you believe any mafia partner that could back me up was AFK, I would know this because we share a scum QT, which reinforces the case where I'm never doing what I did as scum.

I'm adorable.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
October 26 2015 17:55 GMT
#2058
On October 27 2015 02:13 Vonthin wrote:
Can we talk about the possible motivations behind BFs claim? He had to have some sort of reasoning behind it to throw away his life like that.

If GB was town why would he claim then? The vote was 4-2 in favor of GB over ES. If he was town why take the target off GB and put it on himself when scum could get an easy mislynch on him to end the game?

It only makes sense to me to make this claim if GB is scum and possibly the RB and that BF wanted to take the bullet for him and try to give him town cred at the same time.

I still don't see how the team is anything but BF/GB/ES still


OR

we can't know his motivations since he could simply be going to the easy win without caring of who was going to be lynched at that moment.
I'm adorable.
Vonthin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States2864 Posts
October 26 2015 18:04 GMT
#2059
On October 27 2015 02:55 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2015 02:13 Vonthin wrote:
Can we talk about the possible motivations behind BFs claim? He had to have some sort of reasoning behind it to throw away his life like that.

If GB was town why would he claim then? The vote was 4-2 in favor of GB over ES. If he was town why take the target off GB and put it on himself when scum could get an easy mislynch on him to end the game?

It only makes sense to me to make this claim if GB is scum and possibly the RB and that BF wanted to take the bullet for him and try to give him town cred at the same time.

I still don't see how the team is anything but BF/GB/ES still


OR

we can't know his motivations since he could simply be going to the easy win without caring of who was going to be lynched at that moment.


the easy win was not claiming though if you are town since majority of the game thought u were scum at that point
Best Trashcan NA - LoL Summoner. SKT / CLG / Liquid
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
October 26 2015 18:14 GMT
#2060
On October 27 2015 03:04 Vonthin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2015 02:55 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 27 2015 02:13 Vonthin wrote:
Can we talk about the possible motivations behind BFs claim? He had to have some sort of reasoning behind it to throw away his life like that.

If GB was town why would he claim then? The vote was 4-2 in favor of GB over ES. If he was town why take the target off GB and put it on himself when scum could get an easy mislynch on him to end the game?

It only makes sense to me to make this claim if GB is scum and possibly the RB and that BF wanted to take the bullet for him and try to give him town cred at the same time.

I still don't see how the team is anything but BF/GB/ES still


OR

we can't know his motivations since he could simply be going to the easy win without caring of who was going to be lynched at that moment.


the easy win was not claiming though if you are town since majority of the game thought u were scum at that point


To be honest this makes total sense.

But it's wrong because I'm town :/
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