[M][N] Mini Mafia: The (kinda) Vanilla Experience - Page 31

On October 28 2015 02:26 gumshoe wrote:


It'll be Bh, hes the most calm level headed person here. The one that most agree is town. I just engineered a lynch on a townie so its not gonna be me / : and theres no reason for scum to end the shit show that is you and Rayn. Barring scum incompetence and weird meta, Bh is probs done.

Bh, you gotta get as many reads in as possible tonight ) :

So I dont think we have much choice in the next few lynches. Chrom is probs town, as there was no reason to push Gb as hard as he did when the lynch was already going great for scum. So adding him to my town pile only leaves a few possibilitys.

Hopeless never mentioned yam at all really until his vote, so thats an obvius one.

Onegu's vote on hopeless was super pointless for a townie. The kind of thing I could see him doing because he knew both wagons (gb and yam) were town and wanted to be like "hah! I was the only guy who knew what was up yo" he may have also wanted to distance himself from hopeless. Early on Onegu mentioned that he wouldnt be very useful, but that he would be fairly right most of the time. sounds kinda like scum no?



Then theres Gb, there may not be any way to avoid lynching him honestly / : so long as players like chrom and rayn are set on Gb, town cant really function. That and I might have just been wrong about him T_T

I have one more potential scum read, but at this point the well becomes pretty foggy and there's no point calling up a shitstorm when I don't have any hard evidence.

I will say that if Onegu and hopeless arent both scum, then someone here has been playing a really good game. Which means were in trouble ) : If we want a certain lynch, these two would probally be best. But it might too much for town to function until we've cleared Gb so hes the other choice / :

Between Hopeless and Onegu, I would lynch hopeless first.
Otherwise Gb will have to go just as a matter of course / : even though I really am not that sold on him.

On October 28 2015 05:00 Chromatically wrote:

I think ritoky has shown well that he's legitimately trying to figure the game out, which is like the #1 town sign. The way he posts what he's thinking feels very town to me. Plus he's said the exact thing I was thinking many times. I'm pretty confidant in it.

What's your reasoning on rayn being scum now? I'm feel fairly confident that he's town now and I'd be interested to know what about him you think is scummy at this point (probably in your filter, but that's really really long).


I don't see how that would ruin his chances of survival though. You lynch people for doing scummy things, not because they "antagonized" you or gave you a scumread.

Like, GB hasn't even been inactive this night phase. He's been around a lot, and posting. So what is he doing??

He still says we should lynch Vivax. IF he's town, he's about to get mislynched and NO ONE wants to lynch his target. But he's not posting a case, he's not trying to talk to people and convince them to lynch Vivax, he's just existing. ESPECIALLY compared to his town pushes.

On October 27 2015 18:43 Xatalos wrote:
gumshoe: You're basically my top town at this point, and I see you heavily townread rayn, even more so than you townread me..? I'd like to see what you're seeing.. As for me, I think its ridiculous for him to accuse people of not jumping on GB at the end, when he himself was heavily SCUMREADING GB, heavily TOWNREADING Yamato and yet didn't bother to hammer GB. His vote would have made the votecount even, enabling Yamato or someone not voting for Yamato to vote for GB and give him the lead... But he was content just spamming "Yamato is town, haha, suckers please lynch him!". This would make sense if he's scum with GB OR if GB is town and rayn just wants to keep him as a mislynch push or something... What's more, not sure what's up with that, but he said "good night", then came back close to deadline when things were heated - makes me think he was just hanging in scumQT until then. And ultimately I'm not sure if the host attack thing is so good for him... He's generally trigger-happy and his comment to the host wasn't even that offensive, so it's not unbelievable for scum rayn to say it. Maybe thinking that Rels wouldn't have the balls to modkill him as scum for it.

On October 28 2015 05:05 Blazinghand wrote:


We should try to avoid thinking about "free" mislynches, though. If we do mislynch tomorrow, although we don't lose, we'll be going into 4-3 LYLO, which is a pretty tall order in general. We should try to do our best to shoot for the best chance of lynching scum tomorrow, rather than speculating on what lynch will give us the most information-- unless we really really don't think we have a good chance of lynching scum.

On October 28 2015 05:14 gumshoe wrote:


No, someone else,

If chrom(why push gb as hard as he did day 2? Would look like shit after a green flip), ritoky(the onegu shenani and a general town vibe) bh(obviusly) rayn(twat) you(also obs) and me(most obs) are town and one of us is getting shot. That only leaves 4 suspects. three of which should be scum. If im actually right this time, we win as long as we dont lynch outside those 4. Its that or enough scum have been outclassing town that winning is gonna be a real bitch.

All that said we really cant afford to waste our mislynch on Rayn T_T Historically I've been very good at reading him as town when everyone wants his head so though I agree 100 percent that he deserves a fire beneath his feet, it's not how were gonna win / :

bonus points for Rayn. I dont think he would have shot marv n1 considering marv was controlling town and defending him,

I also dont buy a scum Rayn bieng this mean to you Xata. Rayn is only this much of an ass to people hes actually emotional twoards / : that and Rayn's day 1 looked fine.

If Gb flips scum, thats all the more reason to write Rayn off as town / : so if we do plan on lynching gb at some point, rayn would only come after that if ever.

On October 28 2015 05:19 Blazinghand wrote:


In general I've found 1Gu's posting significantly more problematic (as well as his various dodges, especially near the end of D2-- look where his vote is). What are your thoughts on 1Gu?

On October 27 2015 01:42 Hopeless1der wrote:
im basically never going to vote for Xata or Rayn (maybe rayn in lylo) they're my top town. Loving gumshoe's and BH's recent posting, like chromatically as well. Kind of null about GB, I'd vote him but more on a PoE basis. Honestly dont remember much of VivaxThink there is some good effort to keep things on track from Vivax, though it was pissed away to tell rayn to fuck off basically. Onegu still feels like he's "testing" me so I'm going to let him be for the time being but I really want to OMGUS him. Association to yamato looks shitty too, and yamato has been about as useful as I have this game, except I'm expected to be trash and he's not.

##Vote: Yamato77

also you guys voting rayn while thinking hes town....you're as bad as him for doing that.

On October 28 2015 05:14 gumshoe wrote:


No, someone else,

If chrom(why push gb as hard as he did day 2? Would look like shit after a green flip), ritoky(the onegu shenani and a general town vibe) bh(obviusly) rayn(twat) you(also obs) and me(most obs) are town and one of us is getting shot. That only leaves 4 suspects. three of which should be scum. If im actually right this time, we win as long as we dont lynch outside those 4. Its that or enough scum have been outclassing town that winning is gonna be a real bitch.

All that said we really cant afford to waste our mislynch on Rayn T_T Historically I've been very good at reading him as town when everyone wants his head so though I agree 100 percent that he deserves a fire beneath his feet, it's not how were gonna win / :

bonus points for Rayn. I dont think he would have shot marv n1 considering marv was controlling town and defending him,

I also dont buy a scum Rayn bieng this mean to you Xata. Rayn is only this much of an ass to people hes actually emotional twoards / : that and Rayn's day 1 looked fine.

If Gb flips scum, thats all the more reason to write Rayn off as town / : so if we do plan on lynching gb at some point, rayn would only come after that if ever.

On October 28 2015 05:27 gumshoe wrote:
I think the argument against Hopeless could be put best by Bh.



With not even two pages of filter, theres no way that Hopeless looks more scummy than anyone here / : I dont doubt that hes very careful about not slipping up, the whole notion that scum will deliver themselves to us on a platter is something I have fought with people from mah very first game. Scum are fairly capable of not looking all that scummy / :

If Hopeless is town, than that means that means at least 2 scum have outclassed town enough that if even we play optimally we lose almost no matter what. Shitty, yes. But I'm not gonna vote for someone I am confident is town just because the actual town fucked up that bad / :