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so people wanna lynch slam cuz he scum read rayn and marv says so? is that really it? was waiting for more to this but it doesn't ever really come along. maybe it is in rayn's posts, i skipped those.
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gumshoe you keep re-iterating how you don't think i am town anymore. being afk is not alignment indicative (harsh lessons were recently learned about this), and you should really stop trying to soft set up mislynches in the future, someone might notice how mafia you are.
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bh being very sexy to me again right now. probably gonna sheep him.
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On October 24 2015 05:07 gumshoe wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2015 04:52 ritoky wrote:
gumshoe you keep re-iterating how you don't think i am town anymore. being afk is not alignment indicative (harsh lessons were recently learned about this), and you should really stop trying to soft set up mislynches in the future, someone might notice how mafia you are. Funny how your circling back around to me as a suspect the moment I turn against you. Cute, also as the master of afk, I can tell you there are dif kinds, and the one where you disappear because thread sentiment isnt against you and then return to ask "sup guys who we lynching?" at deadline is pretty shitty.
you should try wearing a skirt, it would make your legs look more enticing.
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##vote: alakaslam
cuz BH said so.
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On October 24 2015 05:12 gumshoe wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2015 05:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
you too gumshoe. amek up your mind and stop talking about irrelevant things. I think Yamato Ritoky plus maybe onegu/hopeless are scum. and I think the lynch onto you and slam is retarded and it seems like a super dumb lynch ethier way. thats is the format in which my mind is made up.
low post count = scum.
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+ Show Spoiler +rip jon stewart, i already miss you so much
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On October 24 2015 05:21 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2015 05:16 Blazinghand wrote:On October 24 2015 01:32 Alakaslam wrote:On October 24 2015 01:17 Hopeless1der wrote:On October 24 2015 01:10 Alakaslam wrote:On October 24 2015 01:04 Hopeless1der wrote:
Surefire ways to get lynched:
1) Tell marv he cant do it. Sure fire way to disappointment: try to lynch an enigma on day 1. With regard to your other question, there is irony; Marv missed the fact that I don't much like your posting this game either. In fact, read my pages. Answer my question so that I can answer yours more fully? Would be interesting So I assume this is the issue On October 23 2015 16:08 Alakaslam wrote:On October 23 2015 06:40 Hopeless1der wrote:
ritoky, where do you stand on gumshoe? More of this hopeless? How is this helping your reads? ritoky had an early "textbook" mafia read of gumshoe (as per chromatically), gumshoe posted more, I wanted to know where ritoky's read ended up because he hadnt updated it and needed to be prompted a couple times. In general, my reads for those three are gumshoe>chromatically>ritoky (in order of townyness) This makes sense. Alright. As for where I am, I just made a post on Marv suspecting chroma, and am starting to think Marv may just be off on reading me specifically and trying to see his pov with less bias. So There is that. BH is someone I would not lynch. I wouldn't lynch ritoky either. I am voting Rayn short of a better alternative, was dead certain but I still recognize that Marv is better than I am at this. He may be scum, but that is based pretty heavily on whether or not Rayn is and I flipped associations are newbie textbook level bad. This issue is my primary focus, you were my secondary and I had no tertiary. In general, Slam's buddying of me makes me pretty nervous cause at this point in time there's no particular reason to townread me On October 24 2015 01:39 Xatalos wrote:
Tbh my current scumteam would be rayn/marv/Chromatically, but I'm pretty sure I'm wrong on at least one. There are too many people who have done barely anything (Onegu/Hopeless mainly I think, and several others haven't done much later in the day). It's pretty likely there could be scum among that group. yeah i feel no reason to pay attention to you atm if that's your theory. marv obv town On October 24 2015 01:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:Here is the first thing that made me think Slam is mafia (after my initial vote -- that was really just for PoE and for pressure): Here is a post Slam makes: On October 22 2015 15:25 Alakaslam wrote:On October 22 2015 14:22 ritoky wrote:On October 22 2015 13:27 Chromatically wrote:
and he used the same picture here so I think that's pretty much a slam dunk case. played 1 game with you, you spent all game calling me mafia for posting nonsense, i spent all game calling you mafia. you were mafia, i was town. so i think that's pretty much a slam dunk case. I was lampshadinf this idea. There is no case in the post chroma made. Also Rayn, you throwing your vote away is suspicious. You know I am unlynchable until Lylo, why are you parking your vote on LHF? This is however not what he thinks as town. This is what he thinks as town: On September 04 2015 06:19 Alakaslam wrote:
I will be universally town read:
All game if town
Until day 2 if scum Therefore his "defense" on himself makes sense from scum perspective, as he thinks noone can catch him if he is scum. It also makes him "being able to do whatever he wants". He later on decides i am scum for: On October 23 2015 16:14 Alakaslam wrote:On October 23 2015 16:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 23 2015 16:01 GlowingBear wrote:
I seriously don't understand why I'm being scumread.
Could you please enlighten me? Because you are pushing a bad reasoned read. Because the way you defend yourself is exactly what you do as scum. Because you said you reda the thread but you actually didn't, not even close. Rayn, you are filling your "everyone else is so scum j can't decide" scum meta this is not what i am doing, however much Xatalos wants to claim so. It doesn't make it true. On October 23 2015 16:19 Alakaslam wrote:On October 23 2015 07:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 23 2015 07:05 yamato77 wrote:On October 23 2015 07:02 Xatalos wrote:On October 23 2015 06:52 yamato77 wrote:On October 23 2015 06:47 Xatalos wrote:
So instead of what's stupid, what do you think is... scummy/towny? I liked marv's pressure of GB. I had issue with what GB posted myself and it makes me feel better about him. GB, on the other hand, hasn't posted anything outside of what I believe he could post as mafia, so I'm still quite suspicious of him. Hm... I guess I agree. Though doesn't your last sentence make him null instead of suspicious? No, it makes him suspicious. yamato i am pretty sure GlowingBear is town here. Basically he says really scummy shit that makes absolutely no sense as mafia, because he doesn't really know what to do at all (i assume). Here he has some sort of a thought process going on in his head. Basically it's highly unlike he is scum here. Same goes for Hopeless, he tried to do stuff. He is just doing it in his own way that looks scummy to basically everyone.. always. I am really really sure ritoky is mafia. I am also quite sure Slam is scum because of process of elimination. Xatalos is probably just really fucking dumb atm, but at least his explanation to BH thing makes some sense, unlike ritoky's. ritoky basically argues that Blazinghand is town based on illogical arguments, or arguments that are easily proven wrong. Like even if he believes those arguments are true the read is shit and arguing the read is good for those things is something that a townie never does. Last scum is probably Blazinghand or Onegu. I kinda think it's Onegu atm, since Blazinghand seems to be trying to do something and getting something out of his shennies at the start of the game. I don't believe gumshoe is scum, basically his reacation towards me doesn't make any sense as mafia. He is right in that i suually pressure him every game we are in and i know he acts differently when he is scum than when he is town. I just don't see him being scum here. Vivax is basically his own paranoid town self with a portion of good logical thoughts. marv is almost definitely town. you are almost definitely town. Chromatically seems to be the most level headed person in this game. It's like not totally out of question he is scum here but most likely he is just town as his posting suggests. Opinion all over the place this is not "opinion all over the place". It's a very clear post that follows my filter and my thought process 100%. There is nothing "all over the place" here. Literally. On October 23 2015 16:30 Alakaslam wrote:On October 23 2015 07:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 23 2015 07:31 Hopeless1der wrote:On October 23 2015 06:38 ritoky wrote:On October 23 2015 06:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 23 2015 06:27 ritoky wrote:On October 23 2015 06:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I have a question. Xatalos do you seriously think Blazinghand - as town - believes that lynching by RNG on D1 has the best chances of hitting mafia? Like do you SERIOUSLY believe that? depending on the setup of the game and the structure of PRs, yes. really? when he himself just argued it's less likely to hit mafia then not rng lycnhing? it's actually equally as likely, so i disagree with your premise entirely. it's actually really simple. i mean i guess it's pretty simple for me cuz i read like 10 of BH's games in the recent past so i could accurately impersonate him. here's your guide to reading BH: Did he RNG immediately @ the start of the game: if yes -> 80% chance to be town; if no -> 80% chance to be mafia Did he push the RNG target or just leave it there like a dead fish: if push -> 95% chance to be town; if dead fish - 50% chance to be mafia Did he gather reads from people arguing with him about why they are better than RNG: yes - DING DING DING town; i don't know he hasn't given reads - 75% town; no - 50% town rayn, was this your turning point on ritoky? They're right when saying that ritoky posted nothing between "(rayn thinks) ritoky is town" and "POE lynch list include ritoky". Yeah as i said that was yesterday. I clearly pointed out (before going to bed) that i dislike Xatalos' & ritoky's reads on BH which i had missed earlier as i was tired. My townread on ritoky before was not based on that at all. I jsut didn't pay attention to his posts because i didn't think he was saying anything interesting. It's like how i treat players who don't say anything interesting (unless something changes)... in every game. There is absolutely nothing contradicting there, i re-evaluated his posting after i had slept and dug up further and came to conclusion he is mafia, because: 1) His read on BH is bad. 2) His reasoning for his read doesn't even make any sense.for example; he says there is 80% chance BH does this rng thing as town, so there is actually then 20% chance of BH doing that as mafia - by default. When people tell his that "BH could totally do that as mafia" it doesn't affect his read at all. In fact he just pushes the townread further with more illogical arguments, like trying to argue random lynching is as effective as not random lynching, which is a straight out lie, and doesn't even have anything to do with BH's alignment. So yeah, there is that. That's basically the only thing he has done in this game in addition to now bitching at me. See you don't do this stuff as town Now this is the most interesting part. Again i have literally done the same thing in my last two games: Battle of the Drams - where i ignored GlowingBear's and rsoultin's posting until they started saying something interesting / scummy -- that's what i have been doing lately because i don't want to argue with everyone and i can actually trust certain players' reads on them. Firefly - where i ignored GlowingBear (until yamato called him sure scum) and Cake -- for similar reason than in Drams. Now Slam even played in the earlier game and i actually did many 180's in that game, i even flip-flopped my read on himself for like two days, because i couldn't decide if he is mafia or not. The point here is Slam should know i do the stuff he claims i am mafia for as town -- and says i don't do it. Not gonna fly Slam, you're scum. Slam's theory on his lynch time as well as his "critique" of your post are both way off. It's possible at the time (and at this point, as far as people knew, I was gonna be on Rayn like a dog on an ass-flavored biscuit) he thought he could roll into the wagon I was driving and hide. Although I think it's more telling that ritoky had been in cell than any of this other stuff, rayn's reaosning seems solid and slam's meta case seems wrong. So I'm gonna say "slam is one hundo percent wrong on rayn, and kinda obviously wrong, and also lying about his own meta". I like where this case is going. I'm dropping down a vote on slam tentatively until I'm caught up. ##vote: Alakaslam I already said that I can tentatively buy your meta case, though. How should I know that marv has been not playing as scum in his last games? I haven't seen those games. I don't see how me not being all-knowing of recent games makes me not worth listening to at all. If that's your decision, then I guess it's hard to overturn the lynch at this point... But it's still one of the worse lynches available, so it's kind of sad. The scumteam would have to be something stupid like Slam/gumshoe/GB or Slam/gumshoe/ritoky or Slam/GB/ritoky for it to make real sense. None of those teams are likely at all, and every potential scum candidate voted for Slam quickly when the opportunity came.
yo bro. if you're town you should like come back to earth and think simpler and with more clarity rather than living in the sky with them unflipped associative reads on d1.
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On October 24 2015 05:25 gumshoe wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2015 05:20 ritoky wrote:On October 24 2015 05:12 gumshoe wrote:On October 24 2015 05:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
you too gumshoe. amek up your mind and stop talking about irrelevant things. I think Yamato Ritoky plus maybe onegu/hopeless are scum. and I think the lynch onto you and slam is retarded and it seems like a super dumb lynch ethier way. thats is the format in which my mind is made up. low post count = scum. + Show Spoiler +rip jon stewart, i already miss you so much Def don't mean town too. This meta argument against slam is pretty sils. You also match my fantasy mafia team so thats mostly why I wanna see you die ) :
i am glad i live in your fantasies. only 1 other person has told me that before and i married her and knocked her up.
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On October 24 2015 05:27 Xatalos wrote:
It looks like the lynch is set... Well, it doesn't make much sense for Slam to flip scum with this vote progression, and it makes all the more sense for rayn to be scum (with Slam being the scum counter-wagon).
marv, how is competence decided by the games which you have played? That's the same as calling you incompetent because you didn't play in the VS games.
do you think BH is scum?
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On October 24 2015 05:28 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2015 05:28 ritoky wrote:On October 24 2015 05:27 Xatalos wrote:
It looks like the lynch is set... Well, it doesn't make much sense for Slam to flip scum with this vote progression, and it makes all the more sense for rayn to be scum (with Slam being the scum counter-wagon).
marv, how is competence decided by the games which you have played? That's the same as calling you incompetent because you didn't play in the VS games. do you think BH is scum? Not really, why?
if you're thinking unflipped associations; i would assume you have considered: BH pushes his RNG lynch really hard when he is town doing it -> he RNG'd rayn -> rayn is in legitimate threat of being lynched -> BH stops pushing for rayn, says sad about TR him -> pushes on slam.
i would feel like you would be sketched out a bit by BH's progression if you think rayn is so firmly mafia. certainly way more than marv's progression.
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as town BH pushes hard for his RNG target and doesn't stop historically. if xata thinks rayn is scum, shouldn't BH pulling off the gas be alarming to him? or at least more alarming than marv who TR rayn all game.
is the simplified version
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On October 24 2015 05:36 marvellosity wrote:
i retract my townread on xata out of spite at how terrible he's being
can i have his spot bbgurl? i want free candy.
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i am committed to my course.
##unvote
##vote: onegu
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xata is right about this. slam was the least chupazi he has been in recent games. he was in fact significantly more serious than normal resulting in an around a 50% serious post rate which is astounding for him. as desperate as i am to try and ignore everything rayn posts, when he posts for 3 straight pages....anywayz his reaction is overblown and worthless.
+ Show Spoiler +at least my meta read on slam is still perfect
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current opinion of my child:
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that's one bizarre fucking read gumshoe just gave on me. of all the reasons to town read me, sheeping BH and then forgetting to come back and see if there were further shenanies after i used the bathroom seems low on the totem pole.
i would have gone with something like "ritoky is town cuz he is funny" or "ritoky is town cuz he didn't try to lynch any1 day 1" or content based stuff. hard to grasp a reason why he would forcibly flip flop on me constantly as mafia especially over such a weird thing. never played with him before i don't think...he might actually be town. serious slam's read might be right.
but what do i know, it's like 2:30 and i was awoken by a crying child.
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if i were the sole vote to lynch tomorrow, as of now it would be between yamato, rayn, and GB.
rayn cuz i am basically not reading what he types and his reads sucked.
yamato cuz he is hovering around the fringes of the game, or maybe that's just my perception.
GB cuz i have played a lot with him and he has no strong opinion on me, and actually i would say he seems to be actively avoiding talking about me; i feel he should have a stronger opinion. he is top disappointment atm.
if i were in magical vigi land i would probably shoot onegu cuz yolo free info.
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chrom seemed mafia to me cuz he couldn't take a joke, and his mafia case on me was "I'M SUPER SRS, YOU'RE NOT SUPER SRS, WHAT'S THIS GUY'S PROBLEM? OMG MAFIA~~~~ DO YOU EVEN UNDERSTAND HIM? HE SPEAKS IN TONGUES!@?!@?!@?!@>>!" but i am hesitant cuz effort level and actual cases and re-evaluating and blahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh makes me not wanna commit to a read on him cuz i am a bitch.
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y'know marv, tbh i know i had that one big ass fight with you in a mafia thread cuz i felt you were being an elitist snob; but ever since then you've grown on me. i don't mind playing with you and you have your moments, i just think if we're on a mafia team together it is water and oil.
being tired and sentimental and emotive over internet people? who the fuck am i right now?
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On October 24 2015 18:35 marvellosity wrote:
i'm not much of a grudgeholder, ritoky :p
i hold grudges for like 3 months then i lack sufficient brain space to remember them. enough people yell @ you in an ER and you forget a lot of things. like sometimes you call come home and say "hey youtube, i am home"
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