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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
October 21 2015 23:01 GMT
#329
Feels like Chrom didn't really enter the spirit of the game when he was around, or maybe he's just naturally too serious to engage with others when it felt to me like it was a good position to just post something for funzies.

Kind of a transcendent way for me to read him.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
October 21 2015 23:02 GMT
#331
The Finns invented some special way to read marv they don't want to share?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
October 21 2015 23:10 GMT
#343
I just realized how badly represented my country is on this forum, the brits, north americans and scandinavians have so many players with so much variety and the only thing I can bring to the table is the country of Fritzl, Hitler and Dandel Ion.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
October 21 2015 23:15 GMT
#353
On October 22 2015 08:12 Hopeless1der wrote:
anywho, I put my faith in RNGesus
##Vote raynpelikoneet


I really hope for us that you aren't mafia with yamato or this is set to become a pretty sad game.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
October 21 2015 23:17 GMT
#358
On October 22 2015 08:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2015 08:15 Vivax wrote:
On October 22 2015 08:12 Hopeless1der wrote:
anywho, I put my faith in RNGesus
##Vote raynpelikoneet


I really hope for us that you aren't mafia with yamato or this is set to become a pretty sad game.

he is not scum.


Which one.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
October 21 2015 23:20 GMT
#364
On October 22 2015 08:18 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2015 08:17 gumshoe wrote:
On October 22 2015 08:10 Hopeless1der wrote:
On October 22 2015 08:04 gumshoe wrote:
On October 22 2015 07:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 22 2015 06:56 gumshoe wrote:
On October 22 2015 06:30 Chromatically wrote:
BH, you talk a lot about why your lynch is random but not at all about why we should follow it.


Theres no point to him trying to convince us to follow his lynch. RNG is viable when reads are shit, convincing town to rng lynch requires shit reads. The game has just begun therefore reads have not had the time to develop quality, which means bh does not yet posses his convince condition.

In the absence of the means to convince us to choose his method, all he can do is argue how his is truly random. Because a mafia player who argues for an actual rng lynch is forfeiting his ability to protect his teammates (and potentially himself) from rng. A competent scumer would usually have faith in his ability to sway town one way or another, which means he probably wouldn't risk an rng team kill. Basically there are only 3 kinds of players who would propose this strat.

1) a player who is so insecure about his play, he is honestly proposing to just roll the dice instead of play(at least on day 1). This player could be town or scum.

2) A town player who is just using this as a means to prove his innocence "why would I risk killing myself or my teamies as mafia? I must be town!" this works sorta because your odds are quite low of hitting yourself and if you do then you can always say "well I know I'm town, so I'll just disregard this result" -_-

3) A scummer who believes that town will not actually rng lynch because it is objectively a bad strat compared to a really solid case/read. He must hope for this, because to a scummer the rng lynch can actually just backfire, since mafia as an entity operate on a clear pool of lives as opposed to towns mist of health.

we can probally straight up rule out the first possibility (bh be goods not scrubs), which leaves 2 and 3. This whole thing seems pre written so hard to tell between them. Honestly best just to ignore the whole thing unless it gets to the point where our reads are so junk an rng lynch is actually more likely.

ether way, I dont think bh expects us to actually straight up rng lynch, this was probably just a way to look active early on without actually offering substance (though it might draw substance out of others, which is always good)

this.
this is a big post of nonsense.


this is basically you saying welcome back : D . I'll tldr the post. I think bh's argument for random makes sense coming out of scum only if you except town not to listen(or you can sabotage the rng) and makes sense out of town only if your trying to look substancey and dont actually think it'll come to a random lynch. So I dont think BH honestly wants an rng lynch / : cause that would be silly, even in a game with good scum. What does that say for his alignment? Not much at all. Basically at the time I didnt think bhs actions meant he was townie, just that he was being active and probably insincere.

I might be totally wrong about but such is the risks of early reads. But yeah, rng is silly, case in point your on the chopping block right now for no reason. Do you think your scum? Do you think BH is derp? if no to both this statements then mine has at least as much chance to be true as there is to lynch into you and hit maf.

Can you tldr your tldr?


Rayns a big meanie, nothings changed. Plus I think BH doesnt actually think theres gonna be an rng lynch, his post is just a way to look daring plus active as ethier alignment. I wasnt a fan of him becoming entrenched as town based of something pretty neutral, the reason I posted was because I felt it wasnt obvius that his rng theory was neutral. Rng play is a risky one for scum, but if you assume town wont go for it and are just feigning the play to build filter, then it's totally neutral.

gumshoe you need to work on your tldr.

TL;DR: BH's RNG post=null

See how that works?


No it doesn't work like that cause when gummy is being logorrhoic I can townread him.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
October 21 2015 23:25 GMT
#372
Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, isn't that Catull, that lovesick idiot?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
October 21 2015 23:26 GMT
#373
The nerdiness in this game is reaching insurmountable heights
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
October 21 2015 23:28 GMT
#375
Oh it's some shitty placeholder text pasted together from parts of one of cicero's speeches.
I really want to lynch you now hopeless.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
October 21 2015 23:33 GMT
#383
On October 22 2015 08:31 gumshoe wrote:

Still leaving my vote on vivax though, because he has the superior rack,


No I don't have tits
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
October 21 2015 23:34 GMT
#385
On October 22 2015 08:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
atalos you're gonna go to see prodigy on Nov 3th?


RAYN DON'T DO THIS TO ME
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
October 21 2015 23:45 GMT
#409
He's severely scarred, rayn. Stop tormenting him.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
October 22 2015 00:03 GMT
#418
On October 22 2015 08:57 GlowingBear wrote:
Hi I'm town

And I'm in my class


You have class at night over there?

It's ranging from 7 to 10 PM according to google.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
October 22 2015 00:06 GMT
#420
On October 22 2015 09:05 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2015 07:43 Xatalos wrote:
When you stare into the Chupazi, the Chupazi stares back.

Folks when it loses it's uniqueness it loses it's power


hijole
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
October 22 2015 00:07 GMT
#421
GB there are two options here, you're either lying or in a tabledance class
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
October 22 2015 00:34 GMT
#428
Okay then, I'll go with the night classes, and to bed.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
October 22 2015 15:52 GMT
#499
I got a dinner with the other students and staff at 7:30 PM, will be around for a bit and either back today or tomorrow.

GB did you totally ignore the post where I actually muse about ritoky's alignment for a bit before deciding to townread him?

Or the fact that going aggressive on yamato early was part of my early game strategy, which I also said in the thread (and later turned to actual confidence on him being scum).

I saw he posted a bit on the phone today so I'll have to process that first, but that's not the point I'm making with this post.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
October 22 2015 16:02 GMT
#505
On October 22 2015 13:23 yamato77 wrote:
I don't think Vivax is mafia.

I think Xatalos has some questionable parts of his filter and I agree with gumshoe to an extent.

I do not think gumshoe is mafia very often (given his play this game).

I think marv has changed how he plays (quite obviously). Don't know what to make of that quite yet.

I think rayn is leaning town but it's hard to say with not much having happened.

Most others are a big ?, including yourself.

tl;dr it's been 20 pages and 8 hours and no reads are confident.


I'm kinda bothered by the fact yammo feels like giving reads on people he doesn't actually have a read on instead of focusing on the stuff he finds interesting. Reads a bit like an appeasement post.

Last town yammo I saw (the one where he lynched me at lylo over scum Damdred) he was actually active on D1 and even surprisingly dickish about things, the capslock type dickish, and there's plenty of stuff to laugh about in this game and he doesn't feel like having fun, still.

I'm not really convinced by this. I can totally picture somebody in the scum qt urging him to post, the little tinfoil on my shoulder wants it to be rayn.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
October 22 2015 16:03 GMT
#506
On October 23 2015 01:00 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2015 00:57 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 23 2015 00:50 marvellosity wrote:
On October 23 2015 00:48 GlowingBear wrote:
His first post was a vote on yamato?

And yes, he CAN do it as town, but his whole filter has posts in similar fashion. And I usually see Vivax being paranoid. Not this straight forward.

This doesn't make sense. He calls yamato mafia and so he's not paranoid? What are you saying?

Like I get what you're saying about the townlist, but you need to explain it much much better about calling people mafia.


I may be wrong here marv, but what I'm trying to say is not that he is calling people mafia, but that his posts are very straight forward here (that's what I trying to saying with "absolutes" = he calls a player mafia, he calls a player town - I don't see him having a slow progression on most people. And I'm used to Vivax being way more wary before giving reads).

It's basically tonal.

This is the same Vivax who tunnelled me and HF and one other based on a connection theory for abour 36h starting from half an hour into day 1, yes? That Vivax who is wary of giving reads?


lol
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22089 Posts
October 22 2015 16:27 GMT
#512
On October 23 2015 01:12 GlowingBear wrote:
EBWOP

Show nested quote +
On October 23 2015 01:02 Vivax wrote:
On October 22 2015 13:23 yamato77 wrote:
I don't think Vivax is mafia.

I think Xatalos has some questionable parts of his filter and I agree with gumshoe to an extent.

I do not think gumshoe is mafia very often (given his play this game).

I think marv has changed how he plays (quite obviously). Don't know what to make of that quite yet.

I think rayn is leaning town but it's hard to say with not much having happened.

Most others are a big ?, including yourself.

tl;dr it's been 20 pages and 8 hours and no reads are confident.


I'm kinda bothered by the fact yammo feels like giving reads on people he doesn't actually have a read on instead of focusing on the stuff he finds interesting. Reads a bit like an appeasement post.

Last town yammo I saw (the one where he lynched me at lylo over scum Damdred) he was actually active on D1 and even surprisingly dickish about things, the capslock type dickish, and there's plenty of stuff to laugh about in this game and he doesn't feel like having fun, still.

I'm not really convinced by this. I can totally picture somebody in the scum qt urging him to post, the little tinfoil on my shoulder wants it to be rayn.


Vivax you KNOW that if yamato is town he will eventually come to the thread and try. It has been like that for a long time. It's the kind of player that you get better read on him as the game goes by.

Instead you decided to push him at the start of day 1 and is actually scum reading him for being AFK for less than 24 hours.


Yes cause he didn't interact much with everyone else and only talked about him not wanting to engage with me and Xata, plus he entered the thread with that shitty complaining tone, the sort of tone Palmar caught you with, the jist being "complaining and not doing anything about it".

Then his half assed reads post.
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