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Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
October 27 2015 09:43 GMT
#2524
Yeah yamato's flip was slightly demotivating... More so than the abuse from marv/rayn even... In hindsight, I guess it's not so clear to distinguish between his lack of motivation for playing as scum and sometimes lack of motivation to play overall... But it was a bet with decent chances so it's not that bad....

gumshoe: You're basically my top town at this point, and I see you heavily townread rayn, even more so than you townread me..? I'd like to see what you're seeing.. As for me, I think its ridiculous for him to accuse people of not jumping on GB at the end, when he himself was heavily SCUMREADING GB, heavily TOWNREADING Yamato and yet didn't bother to hammer GB. His vote would have made the votecount even, enabling Yamato or someone not voting for Yamato to vote for GB and give him the lead... But he was content just spamming "Yamato is town, haha, suckers please lynch him!". This would make sense if he's scum with GB OR if GB is town and rayn just wants to keep him as a mislynch push or something... What's more, not sure what's up with that, but he said "good night", then came back close to deadline when things were heated - makes me think he was just hanging in scumQT until then. And ultimately I'm not sure if the host attack thing is so good for him... He's generally trigger-happy and his comment to the host wasn't even that offensive, so it's not unbelievable for scum rayn to say it. Maybe thinking that Rels wouldn't have the balls to modkill him as scum for it.

I also think BH and Vivax are town... And probably Chromatically. Mainly based on how interested they seemed towards the D2 lynch and solving the situation. ritoky has fallen off a bit, and Onegu and Hopeless are still doing nothing to help. GB.... I really don't know. I want to think he's town because he agrees with my reads and townreads me with the best possible reasoning. It's just that his play has kind of lacked drive and him flipping scum would basically clear Chromatically, and probably ritoky/rayn? It's not the worst lynch, I guess. I still feel like rayn/Onegu would be better for their practically unthinkable behaviors towards the lynches (for town, making a lot of sense for scum..).
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
October 27 2015 10:09 GMT
#2525
On the other hand, I think it's hard to see a fitting scumteam for GB... He basically can't be scum with BH or Chromatically (both have tried pretty damn hard to get him lynched at some point).... Hardly with ritoky (ritoky jumped on him immediately D1 and voted for him again D2).. GB preferred lynching Onegu/Hopeless today so they're not the best fits... Although he didn't really push hard for them... It's also questionable if rayn could be scum with him at this point... So who's left? gumshoe? LOL that won't be the case..
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
October 27 2015 10:10 GMT
#2526
Wait, I put BH in there mistakenly... But he's doubtfully scum anyway so meh..
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
October 27 2015 10:15 GMT
#2527
Looks like I'm tired... Of course ritoky jumped on Onegu D1, not GB... But still the latter part stands
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
October 27 2015 11:02 GMT
#2528
Though I wonder what's happened with the Vivax read... That's pretty much always been the most questionable part about GB...
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
October 27 2015 12:43 GMT
#2529
Someone suggested GB/Onegu/Hopeless and I can sort of see that making sense, since none of them have pushed each other too hard? In any case, there's quite certainly at least one scum in that group, probably two. I'd lean on Onegu personally. Would be nice to hear thoughts from gumshoe/Vivax/BH especially, though. Chromatically is already hard on GB anyways and rayn is probably scum or useless regardless.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
October 27 2015 15:14 GMT
#2537
Actually shenanigans are usually pro-town. I just recently read Ver's analysis of the game Assassination Mafia, and he had a good point: scum can pretend to be town while everything is going according to plan, but when something unexpected happens, their reactions will be delayed, uncoordinated and most of all easier to identify as scum actions.

In the event you're town, rayn, I really have nothing left to say. I used to enjoy playing with you among the most on these forums, but now I just wish you had never joined. You almost made Slam quit TL Mafia to satisfy your own ego, and insulted almost everyone in the game so far with ad hominem attacks (which don't really have a place on TL Mafia IMO). It tells something that a lot of people wanted to lynch you yesterday even though they thought you were town.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
October 27 2015 15:55 GMT
#2542
I don't think it was bad to impersonate Slam like that for a bit. It was to continue trashing him from that point.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
October 27 2015 15:55 GMT
#2543
Originally, I thought the impersonation was some sort of a joke.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
October 27 2015 15:57 GMT
#2544
Good riddance then. I'm honestly past caring about your mental well-being considering what's happened to me as well so far.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
October 27 2015 15:59 GMT
#2546
And I haven't yet quit the game once....

You could have refrained from continuing to trash me if you couldn't take a counter-blow, right?

I'm just sick of you saying that my reads are static. I've switched my reads plenty of times.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
October 27 2015 16:03 GMT
#2547
Like they say, don't start something if you don't have the resolve to face the consequences.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
October 27 2015 16:08 GMT
#2548
Tbh this isn't productive in any way.... But I couldn't resist responding like that. There's a limit to how much I can take too :/

Back on topic, I really hope rayn is scum... But it's hard to say for sure. Like, a lot of what he's done generally only makes sense as scum... But it's impossible to completely rule out the chance of town rayn.. Considering the amount of drama that's happened in the past too..
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
October 27 2015 16:15 GMT
#2549
On October 27 2015 23:35 GlowingBear wrote:
STOP trying to fit a team
Just STOP

It's unflipped association and it is bad.

Want to know if I'm town? Lynch Vivax. When he flips scum, you'll know I'm town.


Could you make a really convincing case on him or something? In the 1% chance he actually could be scum... Although if we lynch him and he flips town (likely), I think we just lose, since there are enough lurkers / question marks that wasting our only "free"' mislynch is a pretty difficult things to come back from...
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
October 27 2015 16:33 GMT
#2550
Meh... I kind of feel like switching the signature now that it only reminds of this discussion..
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
October 27 2015 16:57 GMT
#2551
Going forward, I guess a lurker/policy lynch on D1 would be the best option. No risk of arguments going overboard.

On another note, it'll be interesting to see who gets shot tonight. Maybe Vivax, BH, gumshoe or me... It should depend on what the actual scumteam is.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
October 27 2015 17:21 GMT
#2553
Hm? How did you arrive at that conclusion?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
October 27 2015 17:22 GMT
#2554
Let's see...
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
October 27 2015 17:25 GMT
#2556
On October 22 2015 18:36 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2015 13:35 yamato77 wrote:
If I fail to deliver, you can go ahead and try to get me lynched, but in the mean time, don't delude yourself into thinking I'm scum just because I won't play the game the way you want me to. It's rather silly.

I can't wait.

I love these yamato promises.


ROFL
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
October 27 2015 17:27 GMT
#2558
On October 23 2015 01:05 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2015 01:02 Vivax wrote:

I'm not really convinced by this. I can totally picture somebody in the scum qt urging him to post, the little tinfoil on my shoulder wants it to be rayn.

silliest paragraph posted so far


hahahaha
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
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