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Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
October 26 2015 14:27 GMT
#2001
Wot? My vote isn't even on you, yet I can see nothing wrong other than with you?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
October 26 2015 14:29 GMT
#2004
Which game are you referring to?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
October 26 2015 14:29 GMT
#2006
Meh... I guess there's no reasoning with you.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
October 26 2015 14:31 GMT
#2009
I don't really know how some game I wasn't a part of can help determine my alignment.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
October 26 2015 14:35 GMT
#2013
Just wondering how you think a game I have no connection with is remotely relevant to your push on me.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
October 26 2015 14:38 GMT
#2015
On October 26 2015 23:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Literally Xatalos, even if i thought you were town my vote will not move for the rest of the game.
I almost did that once, threw the game (from what i knew at that point).

Here i am not even willing to reconsider. 100%.


What did you even mean with this post? I guess then that you hard tunneled someone in some old game and faltered, making you then tunnel me even harder this game? Or what?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
October 26 2015 14:39 GMT
#2016
Not that it really matters too much...
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
October 26 2015 14:45 GMT
#2020
Because your vote on me is just wasted. The current you has zero persuasive power. Kind of reminds me of your last scumgame where you tried to desperately make people vote for me, but even your teammates didn't dare to. Meanwhile I got the majority on you. Funny isn't it? I almost managed the same here on D1, but unfortunately marv didn't want to lynch you yet, so it can't be helped.

But your turn will come, fear not. If you kill me tonight, it'll just be the final nail in your coffin. If not, it won't help you either.

Well, currently you still have time to prove yourself on the off-chance you're town, so use it wisely.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
October 26 2015 14:47 GMT
#2022
And you don't even think I'm scum apparently.... I really have no words anymore.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
October 26 2015 14:50 GMT
#2025
If he's town, he's a lot more shitty than what I read of BTTB. And he promised to never play as badly as town once that game ended.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
October 26 2015 14:53 GMT
#2029
On October 26 2015 23:49 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2015 23:47 Xatalos wrote:
And you don't even think I'm scum apparently.... I really have no words anymore.



This is my problem with you Xata. You pick something scummy out. Then it is shown to you the people doing it have done the same thing as town, and your response is they are more scum for it.


Again: in your case I could somehow accept your meta defense, making it slightly less scummy how you handled the lynch, but it's still scummy as hell. In rayn's case your point went something like "scum rayn would just stop trying", which he did here. In BTTB he was seriously contributing until he died.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
October 26 2015 14:57 GMT
#2033
On October 26 2015 23:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2015 23:50 Xatalos wrote:
If he's town, he's a lot more shitty than what I read of BTTB. And he promised to never play as badly as town once that game ended.

fuck you your reads are even more bad than mine.


Your top scumread is me, obvious town (though apparently it's out of spite rather than scumminess.. even worse if so). You townread Yamato and Onegu, useless lurkers who usually get at least something done with their posts as town (Yamato) or who contradict their own reads and make no sense with their posts (Onegu).

I doubt my reads can be any worse.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
October 26 2015 14:59 GMT
#2039
FYI I never scumread marv, only slightly suspected him and introduced him to a possible scumteam combination at one point in time.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
October 26 2015 15:00 GMT
#2042
And you're not even my top scumread atm. Even if you were, you can only blame yourself for your unacceptable play as compared to the usual town rayn.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
October 26 2015 15:02 GMT
#2046
I guess next time I have Slam in a game with me or someone pressures me, I'll just stop playing too and start trolling.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
October 26 2015 15:05 GMT
#2051
On October 27 2015 00:04 Vivax wrote:
Can you leave behind this ridiculous drama ? There's a game to solve and if you're good at that, you're a good townplayer. If you're good at being boo-fucking-hoo you're a terrible townplayer.


I was considering just starting to counter-troll but I guess you're right...
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
October 26 2015 15:35 GMT
#2072
On October 27 2015 00:18 Chromatically wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2015 23:57 Xatalos wrote:
On October 26 2015 23:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 26 2015 23:50 Xatalos wrote:
If he's town, he's a lot more shitty than what I read of BTTB. And he promised to never play as badly as town once that game ended.

fuck you your reads are even more bad than mine.


Your top scumread is me, obvious town (though apparently it's out of spite rather than scumminess.. even worse if so). You townread Yamato and Onegu, useless lurkers who usually get at least something done with their posts as town (Yamato) or who contradict their own reads and make no sense with their posts (Onegu).

I doubt my reads can be any worse.

Doesn't this mean that Onegu is the better lynch?

Also is anyone (other than gumshoe) voting yamato for reasons other than just lurking?


Hmm... Maybe slightly. But I'm content with yamato since as town, he's usually considerably more active and invested than this. There was one game I played where he was lurking as town, but at least he posted some valuable posts when he was there. Here... pretty much nothing. Just playing CS/Dota and totally unmotivated. Fits his scum style - starting weak and then dropping off the thread.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
October 26 2015 15:38 GMT
#2074
On October 27 2015 00:32 Chromatically wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2015 00:19 Onegu wrote:
On October 27 2015 00:15 Chromatically wrote:
On October 25 2015 09:41 Onegu wrote:
Nope Rayn hasnt left yet. He is still town.

Xata is making zero sense here.

##Vote: Xata

I'm talking about in this post specifically. What were you referring to in that conversation that made "zero sense here" and made you want to vote him?



I dont remember exactly...

I didnt and dont like his push on rayn. I pointed out why rayn was town and he said that what i said pointed to rayn being mafia not town and it didnt.

Here's the page before that post for others: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/496215-mini-mafia-the-kinda-vanilla-experience?page=83

Maybe I'm reading too much into it. But it felt very very out of place to say "Xata is making zero sense here." when Xatalos hadn't said anything about the meta on rayn for a page or two since you last posted. It felt like you wanted to put a vote on Xatalos and just threw some justification about how you didn't like what he was saying without really checking if it made sense with what he was saying in the thread at that time.

Someone else read it and tell me if I'm thinking too much into it.


You're preaching to the choir here
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
October 26 2015 16:36 GMT
#2121
On October 27 2015 01:22 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2015 01:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 27 2015 01:18 GlowingBear wrote:
Ok I'm voting Rayn

ofc you are.


You're trying to prove a point. The point is that the slam playstyle is annoying and useless.

But the point you proved is that slam is fun to play with and you're not, regardless if you're trolling or actually playing. Because nowadays when you're actually playing you're beig bad and when you're trolling you can't get a laugh out of anything you post.

You just proved to be a cry baby. Grow up.


+1
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
October 26 2015 16:48 GMT
#2132
On October 27 2015 01:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2015 01:36 Xatalos wrote:
On October 27 2015 01:22 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 27 2015 01:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 27 2015 01:18 GlowingBear wrote:
Ok I'm voting Rayn

ofc you are.


You're trying to prove a point. The point is that the slam playstyle is annoying and useless.

But the point you proved is that slam is fun to play with and you're not, regardless if you're trolling or actually playing. Because nowadays when you're actually playing you're beig bad and when you're trolling you can't get a laugh out of anything you post.

You just proved to be a cry baby. Grow up.


+1

and you are the worst.
and i am mad at myself because i cant actually scumread you.


Well that's progress....

As someone said, it's practically impossible to be 100% correct with a huge filter like this. Since I'm town, I don't have perfect information. You might have that information as scum and laugh at some mistakes I've made (like the momentary lapse of including marv in a potential scumteam), but your other reads have been simple bullshit (read on me - false, read on Slam - false, reads on yamato/Onegu - most likely false). Dunno about GB, but you at least haven't convinced anyone on him with your own posts. So if you're scum, I guess I can understand saying these things, but if you're town, it's just unbelievable arrogance and overestimation of your own contributions.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
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