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On October 26 2015 09:19 Chromatically wrote:Show nested quote +On October 26 2015 09:04 Xatalos wrote:On October 26 2015 09:01 Chromatically wrote:On October 26 2015 08:57 Xatalos wrote:On October 26 2015 08:52 Chromatically wrote:On October 26 2015 08:37 Xatalos wrote:
Like, I went to GB's filter thinking "let's see if there's anything scummy I missed", came out of it thinking "there are scummy traits and then bits and pieces of towny moments". Scum? Could well be. Town? It's possible as well. I don't think it's a sure case. Onegu/yamato seem safer, and I'd perhaps put even rayn above GB.... Hmm. I think the meta points are much stronger than any bits of lightly town moments that can be found in his filter. Honestly after playing as mafia in a few games I feel like making posts that sound vaguely townie as mafia isn't that hard. I guess that depends on what kind of stuff specifically you're talking about though. Mainly referring to his meta defense of me, genuine-feeling rant about being voted for and going after rayn instead of Slam in that situation.... I guess none of those are really impossible from scum, it's just that each thing felt more likely to come from town. I love calling people town for good reasons as mafia lol, it makes me feel honest because I don't have to lie to everyone about what I think for once. Rant thing, okay. What do you mean by going after rayn instead of Slam? This post where he votes rayn? On October 24 2015 04:07 GlowingBear wrote:
I don't want to lynch chromatically. Especially now that Vivax is voting him.
And I've been putting thoughts on Rayn. His flip one is bad. He said it was very unlikely I was scum and that I was very level headed with my read in Vivax.
Then Vivax said something about me scum reading him before asking questions, and Rayn agreed and called me scum over the same posts he called me "very unlikely to be mafia". It doesn't make sense.
I'm voting rayn Ah yeah, I mean, he went directly against rayn (who was losing steam and a tougher opponent than Slam) instead of just voting for Slam or going AFK or something. In the worst case, that could have led to him being lynched... If marv jumped on that vote switch etc. I think you're talking about when him and rayn were kind of yelling at each other? Like he could have voted for Slam or gone AFK at that point, but doing that makes him look uninterested in the lynch/doesn't give him something to post about. Whereas if he just argues with rayn for a little bit, he looks active and opinionated just for yelling at rayn for reading him wrong.
Oh yeah this... Well anything is possible, and maybe I'm a bit biased since he was one of the few to support me in that situation, but... I just think it's a bit risky to do anything "splashy" when he was still in danger zone himself. Safer to stay low, I guess?
I think there's merit in your meta arguments and the way how GB has pretty much just scumread Vivax all game for weak reasons, but I still don't think GB is the primary suspect today.
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Could you perhaps elaborate why Onegu is better?
Not that I disagree with lynching him.
Maybe I'll get to sleep soon...
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If we consider things on a purely individual basis, I think Onegu might be our best shot today. But Yamato is only very slightly behind, and lynching him has a good chance of resolving GB as well. Also, I can't really be bothered to push Onegu when it would only distract from the Yamato wagon and waste gumshoe's efforts that way... Plus like some prolly have said, meta points to Yamato being scum more so than for Onegu, even if Onegu's actions themselves are scummier.
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Also lol @ the BH-Onegu exchange 
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To be fair he did reason his switch, and it could have been plausibly justified... Using that logic, you're again all the more suspicious for your various switches during D1 that mostly made sense for scum pushing mislynches. Onegu's vote for you was also far, far worse than GB's, yet it doesn't matter?
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I don't think rayn would be a bad lynch today. It's just that I'm not as certain as I was when the day started, and I'm fine even if he's not the first one to go. Better to consolidate with those I think are town rather than cause too many wagons and give more control for the scumteam.
I have a harder time believing these latest posts are from town rayn though. Just throwing suspicion and flame around, not even trying to figure out the game in any reasonable way.
What I'm confused about is the rayn-GB relation. It's kind of hard to believe they're scum together.... But then why isn't rayn really pushing for GB, the easiest option, and instead voting for people like Slam and me? To lessen the anti-association? Because they're teammates after all? Meh. That can be resolved after this lynch, I think.
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I guess it would make sense for rayn to become mad if his scumteam isn't even playing the game...
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On October 26 2015 21:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
preferrably like 1,5 hours before so i can type out everything i have to say.
Why not say it now?
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Seriously, I'm far from the only one scumreading you. And you're not doing anything to help town, actually actively playing anti-town since N1/D2. Yet everything's my fault?
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As far as I'm concerned, the most useless troll in this game is definitely not Slam. Onegu and rayn have surpassed him from the start and entered into new spheres of useless trolling during D2. Far more useless than Slam's usual play, and infinitely more useless than Slam's surprisingly good play in this game.
I really hope neither of them are town.
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Do you think all of me, ritoky, GB, BH and Vivax are scum then? Apparently not Vivax, but.... I think there was someone else who suspected you as well.
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On October 26 2015 21:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Slam's play was surprisingly bad unless i am mafia so now, lynch me.
I will. All in due time. Just suffer in this game for a bit longer.
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It summarizes the essence of your play in this game
Still not quite sure what you're even doing today. Don't you have anything to say abou the main issue at hand, Yamato vs GB? I'm STILL the best possible lynch...?
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I get that you've called GB scum and Yamato town before. But you haven't pushed either thought in the thread and instead just.... voted for me and trolled. Letting your townread be lunched over your scumread, as it seems. Wtf?
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Uh oh.... I hope the hosts are around before this gets out of hand...
Slam, prolly better just to complain in ObsQT / post-game..
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I don't think there are many players who want you gone overall... As for me, you can be hard to read, but still it's fun to read your posts and you have your good moments.
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This is starting to remind me of reading the ban thread... The dramas...
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If Onegu's senseless posts encouraged you to return to the game, then go ahead... Play! 
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EPT
