On October 26 2015 02:16 Onegu wrote:
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Still dont like xata and his pushes that make no sense. But he really is the only one talking... I need to think about this more after football.

Football

You also didn't explain what makes no sense... Except your own posts I guess....

Xatalos

Finland9675 Posts

October 25 2015 17:19 GMT

#1730

Like... That's the same thing as if, after saying Slam was most likely town, I would have just said "yolo sheep" and voted for Slam. I can't imagine any way for a townie to do that.

Xatalos

Finland9675 Posts

October 25 2015 17:20 GMT

#1731

Where have you done it before? Prove it then.

Xatalos

Finland9675 Posts

October 25 2015 17:22 GMT

#1733

I didn't even push marv. I just said not to 100% trust him after his sorry performance and incorrect reads on D1. I briefly included him in a "dream scumteam" of mine, but removed him again soon after. Never did I say to lynch him at all.

It'll remain to be seen if rayn is scum or town. Even if you think he's town, you still voted for him, which makes the persuasiveness of your posts fall to the bottom.

Xatalos

Finland9675 Posts

October 25 2015 17:25 GMT

#1734

I'll admit you did that before. But doing something scummy as town doesn't really absolve you if you do it again. It's still scummy, just perhaps POSSIBLE for you to do it as town. Though it would make even more sense to it as scum if you can prove you've done it as town before...

Xatalos

Finland9675 Posts

October 25 2015 17:30 GMT

#1736

You're still on about that? I thought you dropped it at some point to pursue rayn or something. Well, maybe you didn't, but you should.

Xatalos

Finland9675 Posts

October 25 2015 17:31 GMT

#1737

Because nobody else will vote for Vivax and your vote will be wasted.

Xatalos

Finland9675 Posts

October 25 2015 17:32 GMT

#1738

Btw BH: where did you get that sitewide ID of a post? Just out of curiosity.

Xatalos

Finland9675 Posts

October 25 2015 17:33 GMT

#1739

Would also be nice if you could post something, anything, else at all...

Xatalos

Finland9675 Posts

October 25 2015 17:34 GMT

#1740

It's kind of sad that my filter is like 30-40% of the game or something.

Maybe I spam too much but still.

It'd be nice if there would be more activity.

Xatalos

Finland9675 Posts

October 25 2015 17:37 GMT

#1742

Meh, I guess your rayn push was kind of dependent on Vivax being scum as well.

Could you explain why you still think Vivax is the most likely scum? He's been decently active, contributing positively whenever he's posted, and as scum he really just actively lurks without participating in any concrete way.

Xatalos

Finland9675 Posts

October 25 2015 17:38 GMT

#1743

On October 26 2015 02:36 Blazinghand wrote:

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Right click the timestamp and copy the link address / destination. Also, your earlier depiction of me being active during the first part of D1 and not during the second part of D1 is pretty hilariously bad given that I didn't really start playing until the last 12 hours of D1, and like 90% of my contributions happened then. Get on point boy

If you're hanging around, could you play now as well >.> It's getting too apathetic and scum may be just hiding among the lurking in the worst case.

Xatalos

Finland9675 Posts

October 25 2015 17:39 GMT

#1744

Thanks for the answer though

Xatalos

Finland9675 Posts

October 25 2015 17:42 GMT

#1745

If your playstyle is on-demand, then here are some demands:

1) What are your scumreads right now?

2) Do you still townread rayn and why? Did RNG fail you?

3) What do you make of the flips of Slam and marv?

Xatalos

Finland9675 Posts

October 25 2015 18:30 GMT

#1749

I'm actually not 97% confident anymore as I was, but there are still many reasons to scumread him as I've detailed. Let me ask you this: was he genuinely angry? When I looked at BTTB where he was frustrated that he was being voted, he still did his best to establish his reads in the thread and tried to convince people to lynch the scumteam after he was gone. He was angry, but he wasn't useless. Here he just... went to play Heroes when he was up for lynch, threw his vote around on me (obvious town) and Slam (likely town), without really caring about who would be lynched if it wasn't himself. There was no passion, drive or interested towards the lynch really. Completely unlike his attitude to the lynch as town in that game that was referenced.

Xatalos

Finland9675 Posts

October 25 2015 18:36 GMT

#1750

Then he proceeded to blame everything on Slam for "trolling", when in fact Slam was exceptionally serious and useful in this game (compared to rayn himself, for example - and certainly above Slam's own usual seriousness). It just felt like an excuse, or shift of blame, to avoid any responsibility when it was just a bad lynch.

Xatalos

Finland9675 Posts

October 25 2015 18:38 GMT

#1751

Note: marv was sad and disappointed in himself after the lynch, whereas rayn just blamed Slam with faulty reasoning. What's more, he never included "trolling" as a reason for lynching Slam beforehand. Why was it the reason afterwards?

Xatalos

Finland9675 Posts

October 25 2015 18:38 GMT

#1752

Originally the reason was merely a combination of PoE and OMGUS. And sheeping.

Xatalos

Finland9675 Posts

October 25 2015 18:41 GMT

#1753

Onegu is not really a bad lynch either. He's just made some incomprehensible accusations and arguments today and dug his own grave. I'd still like to get rayn out of the way before looking at the other suspects, as they're all dependent on rayn's alignment in one way or another.

Xatalos

Finland9675 Posts

October 25 2015 19:53 GMT

#1758

Hm. Well, I guess we fundamentally came to the same conclusion (that town rayn anger should have been directed towards *something* productive, but here he just did nothing with it but spam and lurk.... not even naming any reads..). I guess it's fair to say that his initial reaction to Slam flipping town *could* have come from town. But I don't think his attitude up to the lynch and his attitude during N1/D2 are town at all.

I'm not sure if I'm capable of reading Slam that well either. It's just that there was such a HUGE difference to his last scumgame (in a more productive / useful direction here - in that game he just trolled) that it was hard to imagine this much difference between scum Slam games. If it had been the case, I would have been surprised.