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hm
slam not a terrible lynch given his insistence on being "unreadable"
I think as town he becomes indignant and actually mad if people try to lynch him, this seems more like a mafia tactic.
I don't necessarily disagree that GB looks better but I'm rather hesitant to sleep on the idea of lynching him entirely.
Rayn is just not mafia here I don't think. Unless he is mafia with marv and they both successfully pocketed me. I doubt this though, because literally everyone thinks I am town now so lol.
I don't really want to lynch Onegu but I admittedly haven't read his probably short filter either.
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On October 23 2015 23:50 Chromatically wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2015 23:24 marvellosity wrote:On October 23 2015 23:20 Xatalos wrote:On October 23 2015 23:08 marvellosity wrote:
my reasoning was that you're a bit of a pussy as mafia and it would be much easier for you just to townread me when if you are mafia you know there is a 0% chance of me ever getting lynched.
the fact you pushed me before under similar circumstances weakens that as a heuristic though
although i doubt you'd make the same mistake twice Btw can you really say I'm a pussy as scum after that game where I and Artanis bussed each other all game?  That was fun. yes, bussing each other is pussy way out because it means you don't have the balls to tunnel a townie gonna have to try meta Chrome at some point. My evening cleared up (i was gonna be afk all weekend and spring that on you guys when i finished work, but my plans fell through) On October 22 2015 13:59 Chromatically wrote:
Alright yamato is off the lynch list for me. I have a hard time seeing him faking anger about getting scumread by people for this and I don't think he's just making up his reasoning there as mafia. Both of those last posts feel really town to me. On October 23 2015 00:26 Chromatically wrote:
I don't really see why GB is mafia for that read rather than it just being a bad read. On October 23 2015 02:47 Chromatically wrote:On October 23 2015 02:41 marvellosity wrote:
pretty hard to shake my townfeels on rayn when he comes into the thread saying he has 2 townreads and no mafiareads when at that point i had 2 townreads and no mafiareads and the 2 townreads were the same as mine. I like this post a lot, I get a strong town feeling from this. I don't like any of these posts much. I don't think the anger thing is a good reason to townread yamato. I made an unexplained punt vote on GB and it reads as a bit of a weird defence. I'm also not sure that Chrome should be getting strong townfeels from the post i made rather than others/the whole body of play. Also have this nagging feeling where Chrome described ritoky as picking up on "textbook mafia tells" and he's essentially doing the exact same thing with Xatalos. I don't like it. I understand picking up on Xata's read progression on rayn, I think it's possibly reasonable to be suspicious of that, but the rest of it I don't think I like much. You didn't think yamato's giant angry lecture about how he plays town was townie? I think that would have been very difficult to emotionally fake as mafia. The GB thing I was posting my thoughts and hoping you would explain your read. Your post I felt was town because I thought it showed a town way of thinking about things. Maybe it's silly but that's the feel I got. I don't think I'm being hypocritical but I don't think it matters if I am anyway. ritoky felt like he was jumping on something that he could paint as scummy. Xatalos is doing things that mafia have motivation to do. Not sure if that makes sense to anyone.
Only thing I can say about Chrom is that he's plain wrong about me here, I could definitely fake being angry (or actually be angry, think about that!) about how I like to play the game as a mafia (and have done so on multiple occasions).
Haven't dug in to the wall about Xata yet but I'm rather unconvinced that Chrom is scum. He does seem rather preoccupied with Xata, however, from a cursory glance at his filter.
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On October 24 2015 02:57 gumshoe wrote:
Also what was it that made gj look better to you Yamato?
The post Hopeless pointed out.
It did actually look townie to me.
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On October 24 2015 02:57 marvellosity wrote:
hi yamato
let's kill Slam
he is mafia
I'm not opposed.
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On October 24 2015 01:00 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2015 00:56 GlowingBear wrote:On October 24 2015 00:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 24 2015 00:41 GlowingBear wrote:On October 24 2015 00:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 24 2015 00:36 GlowingBear wrote:On October 24 2015 00:32 Xatalos wrote:
GB, if you're town, seriously don't just commit suicide here. Looks like it's heading towards you vs rayn and it'd be sad if you caused your own death there, like a certain player in my newbie game.... I'm not commiting suicide, I'm getting angry that such shitty scum read on me based on a read that I find very reasonable and I'm having a hard time believing good players can't possibly see I'm town. Then start playing as town, vote for slam, and stop asking questions about what you should already know instead of telling us you have read the thread. I HAVE READ THE THREAD I KNOW YOU "YOLO'ED" AND CALLED ONEGU TOWN FOR NO REASON I KNOW YOU META'ED HOPELESS AND CALLED HIM TOWN I KNOW MARV AND YOU HAD TWO INITIAL TOWNREADS - XATALOS AND VIVAX I KNOW YOU FUCKING HAD GUMSHOE AS MAFIA THEN FLIPPED YOUR READ WHY CAN'T I BRING WHAT I THINK ABOUT PLAYERS AND ASK YOU TO COMMENT ABOUT WHAT I'VE BROUGHT INSTEAD OF SAYING "OH OKAY RAYN SAID THESE GUYS ARE TOWN SO THEY ARE"????!?!?? JESUS CHRIST Because if you fail to realize your read on Vivax is actually really terrible then there is nothing to talk about that one. If you can't understand, when four players, me, marv, yamato, and Vivax (and to some extent other players -- well basically all of them) call your read bad, you should probably at least think your read can be bad, as we can't all be mafia, right? Instead of doing this, you come back and say "but i would never do this as mafia". Your read is bad, regardless of Vivax alignment, that's a fact. Yet you are just sitting there on that read doing nothing. Onegu is likely town for his approach towards me early on in the game. Same goes to Hopeless. Furthermore, last time i asked Hopeless to do shit when he was mafia he didn't do shit. I agree Hopeless isn't doing much but is trying to do something, and that is a towntell for him. I will never lynch Hopeless or Onegu here on D1. Never. And you should not either, especially with players like Slam in the game (or even Blazinghand who hasn't actually done jack shit this game). Or ritoky, or gumshoe. Never ever. The last three of those have posted but all of theirs posts have nothing much to say. Now not all of them can be mafia, because Slam is definitely scum, and i can't even know which one of them is/isn't scum, but i am most certain of Onegu not being mafia. Basically Onegu just doesn't care, which is not what his scumplay looks like, and while i hate the way he plays, that's what he does as town. So if you are town get your head out of your tunnel'y ass and start considering also what other people say, especially when almost everyone in the game shares the view OPPOSITE of yours on Vivax. You fail to realise that I asked your opinion exactly because my townread were saying my scum read is town. But then, when you come to the thread, you scum read me. What am I supposed to do, listen to you and vote me???? Like, seriously, you and Marv could simply answer my question. But instead you decided I'm scum. I AM considering what other people say. Unfortunately, they are saying I'm scum, and that's wrong. I really don't know what I'm supposed to do. Well I think this post is more likely from town.... Hm. It's not so easy to fake this confusion/paranoia as town IMO.
This one actually
Wrong person.
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On October 24 2015 03:07 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2015 03:03 Xatalos wrote:
Hm Onegu's return seems okay... Although why is rayn 90% town? Elaborate? Sorry, why is he okay? BTW I'm pretty sure Vivax is mafia now. He comes back, jokes about stuff, says some random stuff about killing me, but actually talks about nothing else in the game. His read on yamato has vanished, too. I can't understand what you guys find townie in him.
Perhaps a valid point.
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On October 23 2015 02:36 Blazinghand wrote:
Yam could just be having a slow start. It's still early int he US today, so maybe he'll pick up. All this talk about lynching yam is a distraction from the real scum, rayn
BH knows this, lol
wtf is with that question, BH?
Do you really not understand how I play?
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On October 24 2015 03:09 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2015 03:08 yamato77 wrote:On October 24 2015 03:07 GlowingBear wrote:On October 24 2015 03:03 Xatalos wrote:
Hm Onegu's return seems okay... Although why is rayn 90% town? Elaborate? Sorry, why is he okay? BTW I'm pretty sure Vivax is mafia now. He comes back, jokes about stuff, says some random stuff about killing me, but actually talks about nothing else in the game. His read on yamato has vanished, too. I can't understand what you guys find townie in him. Perhaps a valid point. Oh boy another one poking at a bee hive.
It is true that you have faded a bit.
We'll see what that means.
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On October 24 2015 03:35 gumshoe wrote:ebwop yamato I'd like some answers to the following two question. 1: What did you find scummy about slam early on? in response to also what about hopeless? what made you read him as town? has anything changed?
you bore me
what do you think about them?
going back now and explaining why I thought those things at that time is pointless
not much has changed
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we're still lynching slam, right?
DotA has been distractingme
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On October 24 2015 05:58 Blazinghand wrote:
are you down for lynching 1gu?
no
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Alright guys, today I will not play CS and I will play mafia.
I have quite a bit of catching up to do lel.
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yeah this obviously didn't happen today
at the very least I'll do a couple filters after work tomorrow but I'm honestly so disinterested in this game
I dunno, it's my fault really, but this wasn't as enjoyable as the last time I played for whatever reason
I think I lost it
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