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What do you think about ritoky? | ||
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You think Hopeless is town too, correct? | ||
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On October 22 2015 12:56 yamato77 wrote: You guys are making it difficult to be objective and all with the calling me mafia and stuff. Who should we lynch and why is it ritoky? Any reads? | ||
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This was from his mafia game here though: On April 07 2015 13:40 ritoky wrote: the eye of the chupazi is being engaged! ![[image loading]](http://content.science20.com/files/images/Kaa%20Jungle%20Book.jpg) hijole! cabron! and he used the same picture here so I think that's pretty much a slam dunk case. | ||
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On October 22 2015 13:23 yamato77 wrote: I don't think Vivax is mafia. I think Xatalos has some questionable parts of his filter and I agree with gumshoe to an extent. I do not think gumshoe is mafia very often (given his play this game). I think marv has changed how he plays (quite obviously). Don't know what to make of that quite yet. I think rayn is leaning town but it's hard to say with not much having happened. Most others are a big ?, including yourself. tl;dr it's been 20 pages and 8 hours and no reads are confident. Who would you lynch between if you had to pick right now? | ||
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For example, I feel like you wouldn't have made as big of a deal and gotten angry about this as mafia. So this conversation might have gotten us somewhere. | ||
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On October 22 2015 15:25 Alakaslam wrote: I was lampshadinf this idea. There is no case in the post chroma made. Also Rayn, you throwing your vote away is suspicious. You know I am unlynchable until Lylo, why are you parking your vote on LHF? What do you mean with this post? | ||
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On October 22 2015 14:22 ritoky wrote: played 1 game with you, you spent all game calling me mafia for posting nonsense, i spent all game calling you mafia. you were mafia, i was town. so i think that's pretty much a slam dunk case. Does this mean that you think I'm mafia in this game? | ||
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On October 22 2015 22:51 marvellosity wrote: not really. i mean you could be right and it's mafia picking up on those things. But i also don't see why a townie might not either. I can't really tell why one scenario should be particularly more likely than the other. So... *shrug* ritoky's pretty null for me basically Alright, I can see how it could come from town. I would say it's more likely from mafia because it's a very easy thing to point out about a very easy person to jump on, whereas town would explain why they thought gumshoe's thought process was scummy instead of just giving a laundry list of "tells" like this: On October 22 2015 06:41 ritoky wrote: poorly explained response, forced joke, clear post editing, extra lines at the end of post. I'm not as confident in it now as I was, but I think it's still reasonable especially in combination with the fact that the rest of his posts are pure filler with no actual reads/town content. | ||
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On October 23 2015 00:13 marvellosity wrote: on the other hand, i could tell you mafia are more likely to make hay and actually explain those things (which are quite easy to do) so that they have a nice looking post. I'd say mafia are more prone to overexplanation, no? :> I agree to an extent. I think mafia are likely to explain tells in a general way (what ritoky did) , but applying them to specific people is much harder because that's when you have to explain how their town actions were motivated by a mafia thought process. | ||
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On October 23 2015 00:27 marvellosity wrote: but he applied it to a specific person. are you telling me you struggled to understand what those tells were relating to in gumshoe's post(s)? Here's the quote in question: On October 22 2015 06:45 ritoky wrote: at start of game mafia more likely to re-read and edit their post than town is. town more prone to be natural. the lines at the end, the changes between capitalizing and not capitalizing, and some other aspects shows he read and edited the post. He's giving a textbook definition of the tell and then saying that gumshoe did that, rather than talking about why that makes him mafia. Scum do X, player A did X, therefore A is scum - easy for mafia to point out player A did X and the mafia reasoning behind A doing this thing in this context... - harder Do you see what I'm saying? Maybe I'm wrong and it's just a difference in post style but I think the first one is much easier for mafia to do. | ||
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On October 23 2015 02:01 Alakaslam wrote: I mean your slam dunk doesn't dunk me or prove anything about ritoky's alignment I don't see how it would dunk you in any way..? Are you talking about the post with the picture where I said "slam dunk" or the long post I made? | ||
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On October 23 2015 02:41 marvellosity wrote: pretty hard to shake my townfeels on rayn when he comes into the thread saying he has 2 townreads and no mafiareads when at that point i had 2 townreads and no mafiareads and the 2 townreads were the same as mine. I like this post a lot, I get a strong town feeling from this. My theory right now is that mafia have been inactive in the thread so far. It's probably wrong but I have townreads/feelings on the people that have been posting thoughts a lot. | ||
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On October 23 2015 05:10 raynpelikoneet wrote: okay after poe i am lynching into: Blazinghand Xatalos Onegu Alakaslam ritoky i am pretty sure we have three mafia there. I like this list a lot. I would have Hopeless on there too though. On ritoky, he didn't actually make an RNG argument at all. He just posted filter links (means nothing), and then said BH usually talks about RNG as town (which I would argue isn't even supported by those links, one mafia game is a cell game and another BH replaced in). And then he doesn't even come to a read on you. It's not a town thought process, it's useless filler. | ||
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He wouldn't have any problem doing that at all, given that he's done the exact same thing many times before and RNG lynch is by definition completely independent of BH's alignment. | ||
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