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On October 28 2015 13:13 ritoky wrote:
so you think onegu is actively doing more scummy things than gb? okay, please enlighten me. what are they?
Xata many reads, big filter. he is like 99% town. Rayn my friend you should get off of this one.
Calls xata 99 percent town / : then flops pretty hard on him just because Xata called him scum(which was fair) and because of his certainty that rayn is town
Nope Rayn hasnt left yet. He is still town.
Xata is making zero sense here.
##Vote: Xata
I am really kinda feeling Xata is scum with hopeless now. Like he was all ok yeah we can lynch him, then no we have to be safe. He really waffled on it and felt really weird to me.
And yes me and hopeless are both scum, that makes perfect sense...
Also if were looking for a reason why the Rayn lynch happened here ya go I guess / :
Rayn scum reads Xata, and hopeless and then dies. Coincidence I think not.
Anyway I am going to bed.
We should lynch xata or hopeless today.
Does seem super convenient doesnt it Onegu? Also, what alarms is me is the first thing everyone else said when rayn fliped, was basically wtf. Yet Onegu came into thread, not at all suprised, guns fucking blazing with this gem, seems a bit prepared maybe?
Another thing, my read on Rayn literally comes from countless hours playing serious games with him XD, I dont know how much Onegu plays with Rayn, but even I was a bit uncertain here and there / : yet he never wavered? meh, dont particularly buy it.
Also I think hes bussing hopeless (I sure would) but thats just petty suspicion / :
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On October 28 2015 13:22 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2015 13:18 Blazinghand wrote:On October 28 2015 13:13 ritoky wrote:
so you think onegu is actively doing more scummy things than gb? okay, please enlighten me. what are they? sigh. it's yam/gb again basically in terms of activity making people seem scummier tbh if that's the case 100% of people should be on hopeless instead. i refuse to accept this answer from anyone. if you're judging based on activity then lynch hopeless 0 questions asked. but don't sit here and tell me "onegu scummier than gb" and then give me activity bs.
sure lynch hopeless, I dont particularly care about the order man, as I doubt there arent 2-3 scum between them and its unlikely well get through the game without lynching all of them. Theres a good chance were arguing over nothing here but if you really really want to lynch gb or hopeless over 1gu, be my guest. I dont really wanna spend time arguing over what smells worse between trash and used condoms /  i would like to think its the condoms)
My lynches for the next 4 days are basically locked so none of this really matters in my opinion. I'm just going for the person I feel are the scummiest atm, but if I had something REALLY concrete I woulda brought it up by now.
Also My lynches are based way more on who I consider town to be honest (there are 4 people that I just flat out dont plan on lynching this game, barring something crazy), as my scum reading is historically kinda shit / :
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On October 28 2015 13:33 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2015 13:30 gumshoe wrote:On October 28 2015 13:13 ritoky wrote:
so you think onegu is actively doing more scummy things than gb? okay, please enlighten me. what are they? Xata many reads, big filter. he is like 99% town. Rayn my friend you should get off of this one. Calls xata 99 percent town / : then flops pretty hard on him just because Xata called him scum(which was fair) and because of his certainty that rayn is townNope Rayn hasnt left yet. He is still town.
Xata is making zero sense here.
##Vote: Xata
I am really kinda feeling Xata is scum with hopeless now. Like he was all ok yeah we can lynch him, then no we have to be safe. He really waffled on it and felt really weird to me.
And yes me and hopeless are both scum, that makes perfect sense...
Also if were looking for a reason why the Rayn lynch happened here ya go I guess / :
Rayn scum reads Xata, and hopeless and then dies. Coincidence I think not.
Anyway I am going to bed.
We should lynch xata or hopeless today.
Does seem super convenient doesnt it Onegu? Also, what alarms is me is the first thing everyone else said when rayn fliped, was basically wtf. Yet Onegu came into thread, not at all suprised, guns fucking blazing with this gem, seems a bit prepared maybe? Another thing, my read on Rayn literally comes from countless hours playing serious games with him XD, I dont know how much Onegu plays with Rayn, but even I was a bit uncertain here and there / : yet he never wavered? meh, dont particularly buy it. Also I think hes bussing hopeless (I sure would) but thats just petty suspicion / : i have had a mild town read on xata all game and i woke up after that kill seriously considering lynching him. am i mafia? this is not convincing to me in the slightest.
yes, but your first post wasnt "lynch xata now"
its was
well that's a kill...
because that lynch was really fucking unexpected.
Onegu wasnt suprised / : hence I think he knew, hence maybe hes scum, convincing? Not particularly, but neither is the argument that Xata is playing a super slick scum game and decided to draw heat towards himself by shooting rayn for no fucking reason.
What a dumb fucking consideration.
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On October 28 2015 13:44 ritoky wrote:
the only real reason i think xata is town is activity.
tbh i reviewed a lot of his filter, and he is basically a whirling dervish. he just sits there spinning calling all people who call him mafia or any LHF mafia. if you go read it you might be surprised by this. i noticed it when i started to slightly doubt him and then he was like "ritoky might be mafia for dropoff" which was horseshit cuz he had just been talking to me. after reviewing i actually don't think he has much to call him independently town for and i am highly considering voting him today.....cuz unlike you i am not content with that list....rayn kill wants to lull town to sleep on that list imo.
sigh. you just have to bag the big fish don't you?
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On October 28 2015 13:46 ritoky wrote:
i personally think there's at least 1 between gb and hopeless.
as i said before if gb is mafia there is GUARANTEED 1 between gumdrop, vivax, and xata.
GB VIVAX= probally impossible, as gb was pushing vivax from the start pretty much. Though gb bieng town does open up the possibility of vivax bieng scum.
Xatalos isnt scum, he has never played this active as scum, he has played tons of games. If you can show me that Xatalos is capable of a scum game of this caliber sure, but until you do the legwork dont shit up the thread with all your tinfoil you tremendous scrub.
The very thought of you calling ME scum makes me empathize with Rayn and his berserk rage.
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On October 28 2015 13:55 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2015 13:52 gumshoe wrote:On October 28 2015 13:44 ritoky wrote:
the only real reason i think xata is town is activity.
tbh i reviewed a lot of his filter, and he is basically a whirling dervish. he just sits there spinning calling all people who call him mafia or any LHF mafia. if you go read it you might be surprised by this. i noticed it when i started to slightly doubt him and then he was like "ritoky might be mafia for dropoff" which was horseshit cuz he had just been talking to me. after reviewing i actually don't think he has much to call him independently town for and i am highly considering voting him today.....cuz unlike you i am not content with that list....rayn kill wants to lull town to sleep on that list imo. sigh. you just have to bag the big fish don't you? i like winning. i am beginning to believe lynching the 3 lowest activity people won't get me the result i want. time to consider alternatives.
Nah, you like bieng the ubermensh, I get it, dont sweat it, your pride is more important than using your brain for a second.
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On October 28 2015 14:00 Chromatically wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2015 13:46 ritoky wrote:
i personally think there's at least 1 between gb and hopeless.
as i said before if gb is mafia there is GUARANTEED 1 between gumdrop, vivax, and xata. Sorry, can you explain this to me? I don't understand this.
I can, Ritoky wants to be a giant slayer more than he wants to use his brain. The end.
In all seriousness its probably some vote analysis bullshit.
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On October 28 2015 14:03 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2015 14:00 Chromatically wrote:On October 28 2015 13:46 ritoky wrote:
i personally think there's at least 1 between gb and hopeless.
as i said before if gb is mafia there is GUARANTEED 1 between gumdrop, vivax, and xata. Sorry, can you explain this to me? I don't understand this. BH tried to shennanie from yamato to GB. all 3 were here, all 3 refused to follow for different reasons. if it was a shennanie off town onto mafia, i would be floored if 1 isn't mafia with GB.
Me and Xata didn't really wanna risk Yam ninja voting last second. Also I wanted to shenany onto Onegu or hopeless, not gb because I thought yam flipping scum would clear gb how does that not make sense in your tiny brain?
Vivax is not scum if Gb is scum.
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I honestly woulda shenaynied onto hopeless or onegu, but def not bh, but the plan kinda kicked off pretty fast so didnt wanna play fast and loose with mah vote.
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On October 28 2015 14:10 ritoky wrote:
also "could never be gb and vivax". no. let me tell you a story of a game of mafia where gb, damdred, and i rolled mafia. gb makes the first post "OMG I LOVE U GUYS, LET'S ALL BUS THE LIVING SHIT OUT OF EACHOTHER! GOIN FOR DAMDRED!" to which me and damdred also agree and bus the living fuck out of eachother and roflstomp the game. that was a fun game. it's not exactly probable but it is possible.
why did i stick around?
basically in order for onegu to be mafia every person who died has to have been wrong on him and onegu is killing every1 who TRs him. i don't think this is the case, which means onegu is town. so that list of 3 isn't good anymore.
i think GB is mafia, i think hopeless is a coinflip. so it is time to start considering alternatives.
Lol this guy
"so this is super unlikely but it IS possible but it supports mah theory so lets consider it really hard"
" this thing is super unlikely too, but lets not consider it much possible because it doesnt support mah theory."
Marv is super townie kill number 1, his death means nothing to your theory, as even if hes town reading onegu he might be scum reading onegus buds.
If onegu is scum, he literally gave his reason for killing rayn right here.
Rayn scum reads Xata, and hopeless and then dies. Coincidence I think not.
Anyway I am going to bed.
We should lynch xata or hopeless today.
--insert angry insult that I will reframe from cause I dont actually dislike you and I'm not as bad as Rayn----
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On October 28 2015 14:13 ritoky wrote:
also take your salt somewhere else please. this game has been hard enough to make it through; can it just be pleasant the rest of the way?
its hard because townies like you are making it hard. it doesnt have to be hard. Your the one choosing to come after people who are clearly town because your really scared of some mafia master plan. You dont wanna be had, I get that, but your paranoia really isn't helping.
list=profit
you wanna lynch gb? fine. But leave mah xata alone.
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##unvote
##vote Gb
sorry gb ) : I dont have a good way to clear you anymore, it's on you,
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On October 28 2015 15:01 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2015 14:55 gumshoe wrote:
##unvote
##vote Gb
sorry gb ) : I dont have a good way to clear you anymore, it's on you, Lol gumshoe  do you have any reasons to read me as mafia?
not particularly T_T
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Basically theres no lynch I can propose that can clear your name like yams would, and theres no argument (that I havent already brought up) that would sway the people who want your head. I know it sucks to be the patzi but at this point your a liability to town ) :
If you can sway them to lynch onegu or hopeless or convince them why your town, by all means do that, but at this point I cant do that for you and I'm not going to be arguing with chrom and ritoky for the next 3 days when it is still possible that you could be mafia and im just blind.
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On October 28 2015 15:11 GlowingBear wrote:
Anyway it's also bullshit that you say RAYN died because mafia think he was unlynchable. He had way more chances to be lynched over than you or Xatalos.
The fact that you thought I was town should be clear to you that RAYN was wrong so if he is dead it's because mafia tried to wifom us
EXACTLY, the only way rayn is unlychable is if scum are in a position where they cannot help rayn be lynched.
Bh brought up that it could also be that scum are the only ones pushing rayn.
But that would mean 2 out of you vivax xat and ritoky are scum. You should KNOW your town, so it cant be you, that means 2 out of xat vivax and ritoky are scum which I dont bilieve.
on the other hand we have the case that scum simply are town reading rayn, therefore they are trying to just wifom us cause they can never kill him.
This would support the theory that Hopeless and onegu are scum (two scummy players that are in no position to push rayn as they are town reading him, they fit the bill perfectly.)
The problem is, it only accounts for two of scum, the third can be whatever on Rayn / : so yeah, mah theory doesnt clear or condemn any one player, it just makes a compelling case that there are 2 scum out there that CANNOT mislynch rayn cause theyre stuck town reading him.
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On October 28 2015 15:24 GlowingBear wrote:
Let me be sincere here:
I'm completely demotivated to play. Partly because I've burned out of playing mafia, partly because I can't stand coming to a promising game, liking playing it, but then facing medium tier players overvaluating themselves and promoting shitfests, and players that signs in to simply not play the game. It's like playing chess with a wall.
I'm not certain on anyone but Vivax. Vivax has displayed some townie posts, I must agree, but his overall gameplay seems scummy to me. He doesn't feel engaged to win. He hasn't done anything memorable.
The rest I can call scummy for whatever reasons. At this point I want to lynch everybody and be the last man standing.
No, I won't make a case on Vivax. I've spent 3-4 hours re reading day one, talked about Vivax, said we should keep slam and yamato to read later, and that we should go against Onegu and hopeless, just to be called mafia right after. It's boring. Then it's day3, and people are considering a team of me/Onegu/hopeless ROFLMAO. I won't waste my time.
I will be hanging here and give some opinions on whatever I find relevant and vote people accordingly to how I feel comfortable.
oks ) :
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On October 28 2015 15:26 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2015 15:12 gumshoe wrote:
Basically theres no lynch I can propose that can clear your name like yams would, and theres no argument (that I havent already brought up) that would sway the people who want your head. I know it sucks to be the patzi but at this point your a liability to town ) :
If you can sway them to lynch onegu or hopeless or convince them why your town, by all means do that, but at this point I cant do that for you and I'm not going to be arguing with chrom and ritoky for the next 3 days when it is still possible that you could be mafia and im just blind. So how do you read Onegu and Hopeless?
scum, what else? Scummier than you by far in my op.
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On October 28 2015 15:29 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On October 28 2015 15:28 gumshoe wrote:On October 28 2015 15:26 GlowingBear wrote:On October 28 2015 15:12 gumshoe wrote:
Basically theres no lynch I can propose that can clear your name like yams would, and theres no argument (that I havent already brought up) that would sway the people who want your head. I know it sucks to be the patzi but at this point your a liability to town ) :
If you can sway them to lynch onegu or hopeless or convince them why your town, by all means do that, but at this point I cant do that for you and I'm not going to be arguing with chrom and ritoky for the next 3 days when it is still possible that you could be mafia and im just blind. So how do you read Onegu and Hopeless? scum, what else? Scummier than you by far in my op. You'll also be discussing them in the next 3 days, so I don't understand why are you complying with lynching me now at this point.
Cause people I know are townies want you dead / : sure your way townier than hopeless and onegu, but nowhere near as townie as chrom or ritoky or bh or xat. So yeah, I dont paticularly care if you die cause I'm not lynching them / : and were going to have to lynch you eventually anyways. So unless theres some paticular reason why you need to live through the next 2 days when your probally gonna die on the third, I dont really care. Town wont be able to seriusly consider someone outside you three till you three are dead. so dems the braks.
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On October 29 2015 01:51 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On October 29 2015 01:49 GlowingBear wrote:On October 29 2015 01:38 Xatalos wrote:
If we apply numeric values then maybe something like this...
gumshoe - 10
BH - 9
Vivax - 8
Chromatically - 7
ritoky - 5
hopeless - 4
GlowingBear - 3
Onegu - 1 I think you have two mafias in your top townies
Who dat? Vivax ritoky? or Bh maybe?
They might get lynched this game but probally not before you. I have two pretty solid townies that want your head(chrom and ritoky) 2 townies plus mafias 3 means mafia theoretically controls this days lynch, so dont really feel like fighting too much. Arguing with Ritoky well just produce more salt, and I was wrong yesterday so I dont really have to right to bother chrom today / : but I am gonna unvote to let the scummers go first.
Your lynch is more a quality of life one than anything else tbh(our lives, not yours)
My biggest problem with a Hopeless lynch is that I feel like tomorrow will turn into an exact repeat of today where gumshoe pushes yamato all day and I don't want to do that all again honestly.
Basically the above is what I am worried about. If we are gonna lynch you this game, it would be nice to get it over with today so that were not arguing about for the rest of the game. Who knows, you might even flip scum, crazier things have happened(though yah, I still get townie vibes off yah / : just not as AS townie as others).
But if you can concince ritoky or chrom to get off you, then sure I'll default back to my onegu vote (seems like a pretty clear flip to me, but some would disagree)
As long as it's in mah pool of suspects, I really dont care who dies / : there are benefits to lynching 90 percent scum for the fuzzy feelings, and thier are also benefits to lynching 50 percent scum that town are divided on. It matter not to moi.
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##unvote
your move scummers : D
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