• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 07:02
CEST 13:02
KST 20:02
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt2: All Star10Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists14[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt1: Fresh Flow9[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt2: News Flash10[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt1: New Chaos0
Community News
2026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers12Maestros of the Game 2 announced52026 GSL Tour plans announced14Weekly Cups (April 6-12): herO doubles, "Villains" prevail1MaNa leaves Team Liquid23
StarCraft 2
General
MaNa leaves Team Liquid Maestros of the Game 2 announced 2026 GSL Tour plans announced Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists
Tourneys
2026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers GSL CK: More events planned pending crowdfunding RSL Revival: Season 5 - Qualifiers and Main Event Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2)
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
Mutation # 522 Flip My Base The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 521 Memorable Boss Mutation # 520 Moving Fees
Brood War
General
ASL21 Strategy, Pimpest Plays Discussions [ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt2: All Star Data needed BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ RepMastered™: replay sharing and analyzer site
Tourneys
[ASL21] Ro16 Group D [ASL21] Ro16 Group C [ASL21] Ro16 Group B [Megathread] Daily Proleagues
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Any training maps people recommend? Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
Dawn of War IV Starcraft Tabletop Miniature Game Nintendo Switch Thread General RTS Discussion Thread Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread YouTube Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Movie Discussion!
Sports
Formula 1 Discussion 2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story Cricket [SPORT]
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
[G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Sexual Health Of Gamers
TrAiDoS
lurker extra damage testi…
StaticNine
Broowar part 2
qwaykee
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1240 users

[M][N] Mini Mafia: The (kinda) Vanilla Experience - Page 109

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 107 108 109 110 111 196 Next
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 26 2015 17:11 GMT
#2161
i guarantee you are lynching town.
gj.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 26 2015 17:12 GMT
#2162
On October 27 2015 02:11 gumshoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2015 02:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 27 2015 02:04 gumshoe wrote:
On October 27 2015 01:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
This is what happened, regardless of if you want to address it or not;

- rayn calls GB town
- rayn calls GB scum, explains why he changes his view -- see yamato/Vivax, mostly Vivax)
- GB calls rayn town
- GB asks about his scumreads from rayn (or townreads -- but still rayn too)
- rayn says "you are not reading the thread"
- GB says "yes i have"
- rayn says "well then you would know my stance (also marv's/chrom's)"
- GB says okay so gimme reads on ppl
- rayn says "haha you're scum"
- GB says oh i just now figured out rayn is mafia i wanna vote for him

.....

D2:
GB argues that what i did on D1 (when he called me mafia) is inside my townplay...

^_^


why is he protecting you as scum at this point? You know your town Rayn, why isnt he pushing your wagon?

Like seriously townies, inconsistent reads are only scummy if they correlate with scummy objectives

bad play/inconsistent play
does not
equal
scum.

Compare this to Yams day 1 case of Slam which went like this

Slam is scummy(no reasons provided)
slam is not so scummy(no reasons provided)
Slam is scum now that a wagon has formed on him (provided Literally marvs reasons but respun)

gumshoe: Hey yam, why did you find slam scummy inititally?
Yam: fak you

Result- slamie townie is mislynched.

See how this inconsistent read correlates with a scum agenda? Thats scummy : D.

Compared to Gbs akward waffling and protection of Slam, as well his non scum sensible protection of you, a townie doing his very best to get lynched, theres really no comparison.

That and only one of them can be scum.

mmm i get you don't get it as you don't know my alignment and the situation at the moment.


Of course I know your alignment, your Rayn the dumbass townie. Your not the kind scum player who would default to using his shit meta to get a pass from town. Everyone plays mafia for a different thrill. Your not like blazing hand, its not enough for you to just get by, you want to win with dignity(ironic giving this situation XD). I explained how a scum Rayn would go about doing that, your whiny shit fit did not resemble that all. That and your day 1 looks reasonably townie so yeah / : your town, and your a butt.

I like you gumshoe, you have balls.
table for two on a tv tray
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
October 26 2015 17:12 GMT
#2163
On October 27 2015 02:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
i guarantee you are lynching town.
gj.


Just now you said he was scum though
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
October 26 2015 17:12 GMT
#2164
On October 27 2015 02:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2015 02:04 gumshoe wrote:
On October 27 2015 01:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
This is what happened, regardless of if you want to address it or not;

- rayn calls GB town
- rayn calls GB scum, explains why he changes his view -- see yamato/Vivax, mostly Vivax)
- GB calls rayn town
- GB asks about his scumreads from rayn (or townreads -- but still rayn too)
- rayn says "you are not reading the thread"
- GB says "yes i have"
- rayn says "well then you would know my stance (also marv's/chrom's)"
- GB says okay so gimme reads on ppl
- rayn says "haha you're scum"
- GB says oh i just now figured out rayn is mafia i wanna vote for him

.....

D2:
GB argues that what i did on D1 (when he called me mafia) is inside my townplay...

^_^


why is he protecting you as scum at this point? You know your town Rayn, why isnt he pushing your wagon?

Like seriously townies, inconsistent reads are only scummy if they correlate with scummy objectives

bad play/inconsistent play
does not
equal
scum.

Compare this to Yams day 1 case of Slam which went like this

Slam is scummy(no reasons provided)
slam is not so scummy(no reasons provided)
Slam is scum now that a wagon has formed on him (provided Literally marvs reasons but respun)

gumshoe: Hey yam, why did you find slam scummy inititally?
Yam: fak you

Result- slamie townie is mislynched.

See how this inconsistent read correlates with a scum agenda? Thats scummy : D.

Compared to Gbs akward waffling and protection of Slam, as well his non scum sensible protection of you, a townie doing his very best to get lynched, theres really no comparison.

That and only one of them can be scum.

like... you sound like Xatalos... read the post again please.
then re-read the thread.


You need to convince me Rayn, XD its not the other way around. I dont see what you see, so ethier use a fucking lens to show me or just accept thats its not reall there.
gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
Chromatically
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1700 Posts
October 26 2015 17:12 GMT
#2165
Yeah we seriously should be lynching GB. I don't care if people say I'm tunneled. But it looks like it's not going to happen and I'm about out of effort to push it with.

I wrote a whole strong meta thing and have talked about it all day today and everyone's just like, "actually GB is town because I like this one post that sounds vaguely okay". Look at his total disinterest in the lynch today. He isn't even trying to push a target. He votes yamato, says he would prefer Onegu, and now is voting rayn over them for being annoying..?

Oh well though. I don't know what else to say at this point.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 26 2015 17:13 GMT
#2166
you're... btw
table for two on a tv tray
Chromatically
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1700 Posts
October 26 2015 17:14 GMT
#2167
Actually I have no clue what rayn is doing right now
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 26 2015 17:14 GMT
#2168
On October 27 2015 02:12 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2015 02:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
i guarantee you are lynching town.
gj.


Just now you said he was scum though

fuck i was contradicting myslef i must be mafia ?
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 26 2015 17:14 GMT
#2169
yamato is town
gb is mafia

that's what i am doing
table for two on a tv tray
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
October 26 2015 17:15 GMT
#2170
Well a part of me just wants to put rayn out of his misery, but I think yamato/Onegu offer higher chances of hitting scum... And maybe it would be more deserved for rayn to suffer more with this game... But then again, it offers suffering to everyone else though.... Decisions :/
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 26 2015 17:16 GMT
#2171
On October 27 2015 02:15 Xatalos wrote:
Well a part of me just wants to put rayn out of his misery, but I think yamato/Onegu offer higher chances of hitting scum... And maybe it would be more deserved for rayn to suffer more with this game... But then again, it offers suffering to everyone else though.... Decisions :/

I can make everyone's life miserable so just lynch me so i can lynch you after.
table for two on a tv tray
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
October 26 2015 17:20 GMT
#2172
How can you lynch me when you're dead...
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 26 2015 17:20 GMT
#2173
Scum QT:

Xatalos: rayn is annoying
gumshoe: yeah
Xatalos: lynch him
gumshoe: no we cant
Xatalos: yeah we can
gumshoe: i am not sure
Xatalos: yes lynch him
gumshoe: mhmhm.---- ok
Xatalos: gogogoog
gumshoe: no you have been bad
Xatalos: no i am good
gumshoe: fuck you
Xatalos: shit
gumshoe: but what if GB gets lynched?
Xatalos: so bad
gumshoe: yes

to be continued....
table for two on a tv tray
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
October 26 2015 17:20 GMT
#2174
Just accept it, I will never be lynched.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
October 26 2015 17:20 GMT
#2175
On October 27 2015 02:12 Chromatically wrote:
Yeah we seriously should be lynching GB. I don't care if people say I'm tunneled. But it looks like it's not going to happen and I'm about out of effort to push it with.

I wrote a whole strong meta thing and have talked about it all day today and everyone's just like, "actually GB is town because I like this one post that sounds vaguely okay". Look at his total disinterest in the lynch today. He isn't even trying to push a target. He votes yamato, says he would prefer Onegu, and now is voting rayn over them for being annoying..?

Oh well though. I don't know what else to say at this point.


I looked into your meta thing. Your argument that Gb isnt pushing as hard as normal doesnt consider that 1) Gb has been busy and has had classes 2) Gb came under a ton of heat for pushing a derpy scum read(which is a townie thing btw) and had to spend time defending himself 3) by non Gb standards he pushed his case pretty hard, which considering you only have to valid 2 town games in your sample size should be enough to takethis point down to null.

I also countered the miscellaneous points you brought up

1) Gb wasnt teaching vivax he was continuing a 'vivax is scum' point from before

2) Theres no reason to give town passes to sketchy players as scum unless they're your buds (you know your town so yeah, thats one point against that possibility), mislynches are scums lifeblood, scum want to create an environment of negativity and distrust, building bridges with lynchable townies is not the way to do that.

gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
October 26 2015 17:21 GMT
#2176
On October 27 2015 02:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Scum QT:

Xatalos: rayn is annoying
gumshoe: yeah
Xatalos: lynch him
gumshoe: no we cant
Xatalos: yeah we can
gumshoe: i am not sure
Xatalos: yes lynch him
gumshoe: mhmhm.---- ok
Xatalos: gogogoog
gumshoe: no you have been bad
Xatalos: no i am good
gumshoe: fuck you
Xatalos: shit
gumshoe: but what if GB gets lynched?
Xatalos: so bad
gumshoe: yes

to be continued....


LOL

Thanks, you were funny for once
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
October 26 2015 17:22 GMT
#2177
On October 27 2015 02:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Scum QT:

Xatalos: rayn is annoying
gumshoe: yeah
Xatalos: lynch him
gumshoe: no we cant
Xatalos: yeah we can
gumshoe: i am not sure
Xatalos: yes lynch him
gumshoe: mhmhm.---- ok
Xatalos: gogogoog
gumshoe: no you have been bad
Xatalos: no i am good
gumshoe: fuck you
Xatalos: shit
gumshoe: but what if GB gets lynched?
Xatalos: so bad
gumshoe: yes

to be continued....


ignorance is bliss


This sig becomes funnier every time I see it.





gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
October 26 2015 17:23 GMT
#2178
On October 27 2015 02:14 Chromatically wrote:
Actually I have no clue what rayn is doing right now


being a huge scrub.
gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 26 2015 17:24 GMT
#2179
On October 27 2015 02:20 gumshoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2015 02:12 Chromatically wrote:
Yeah we seriously should be lynching GB. I don't care if people say I'm tunneled. But it looks like it's not going to happen and I'm about out of effort to push it with.

I wrote a whole strong meta thing and have talked about it all day today and everyone's just like, "actually GB is town because I like this one post that sounds vaguely okay". Look at his total disinterest in the lynch today. He isn't even trying to push a target. He votes yamato, says he would prefer Onegu, and now is voting rayn over them for being annoying..?

Oh well though. I don't know what else to say at this point.


I looked into your meta thing. Your argument that Gb isnt pushing as hard as normal doesnt consider that 1) Gb has been busy and has had classes 2) Gb came under a ton of heat for pushing a derpy scum read(which is a townie thing btw) and had to spend time defending himself 3) by non Gb standards he pushed his case pretty hard, which considering you only have to valid 2 town games in your sample size should be enough to takethis point down to null.

I also countered the miscellaneous points you brought up

1) Gb wasnt teaching vivax he was continuing a 'vivax is scum' point from before

2) Theres no reason to give town passes to sketchy players as scum unless they're your buds (you know your town so yeah, thats one point against that possibility), mislynches are scums lifeblood, scum want to create an environment of negativity and distrust, building bridges with lynchable townies is not the way to do that.


Okay gumshoe, if you are town, look at the fact that GB calls me mafia for the same things that he called me town earlier (no Xatalos, this is different).

I don't wanna write up a big post, so.. meh..
table for two on a tv tray
gumshoe
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada3602 Posts
October 26 2015 17:24 GMT
#2180
Chrom if you want people to respond to your case, can you repost it but make it a lot clearer and streamlined? It was pretty hard to read through the first time ) :
gumshoe bullshitting at 120%~~Prplz
Prev 1 107 108 109 110 111 196 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
11:00
Playoffs Day 1
herO vs Classic
SHIN vs Cure
Solar vs Percival
Liquipedia
Afreeca Starleague
10:00
Ro16 Group D
Barracks vs Leta
Royal vs Light
Afreeca ASL 14316
StarCastTV_EN352
Liquipedia
GSL
08:00
2026 Season 1: Qualifiers
herO vs Rogue
Maru vs SHIN
Cure vs ClassicLIVE!
IntoTheiNu 403
CranKy Ducklings SOOP190
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
OGKoka 316
TKL 23
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 11403
Sea 6596
Jaedong 5762
BeSt 1246
Horang2 1013
Rush 805
Pusan 424
Mind 285
Zeus 273
Larva 249
[ Show more ]
JYJ 174
ToSsGirL 113
Sharp 99
ggaemo 85
Britney 82
Sexy 40
Killer 29
[sc1f]eonzerg 28
Bale 27
Shine 26
Sacsri 10
SilentControl 10
GoRush 10
Noble 9
JulyZerg 8
Terrorterran 5
Icarus 3
eros_byul 0
Dota 2
Gorgc2463
XaKoH 419
Counter-Strike
olofmeister2502
zeus323
x6flipin308
allub284
edward176
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King120
Other Games
singsing1774
crisheroes217
Trikslyr118
QueenE45
B2W.Neo15
Happy0
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream9487
PGL Dota 2 - Secondary Stream4916
Other Games
gamesdonequick404
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 254
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 12 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• TFBlade1310
• Stunt577
Upcoming Events
RSL Revival
22h 58m
Replay Cast
1d 12h
The PondCast
1d 22h
KCM Race Survival
1d 22h
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
1d 23h
Gerald vs TBD
Clem vs TBD
ByuN vs TBD
Rogue vs MaxPax
ShoWTimE vs TBD
CranKy Ducklings
2 days
Escore
2 days
RSL Revival
3 days
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
3 days
Universe Titan Cup
3 days
Rogue vs Percival
[ Show More ]
Ladder Legends
4 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
4 days
BSL
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
4 days
Ladder Legends
5 days
BSL
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Wardi Open
5 days
Monday Night Weeklies
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-04-20
RSL Revival: Season 4
NationLESS Cup

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
StarCraft2 Community Team League 2026 Spring
WardiTV TLMC #16
Nations Cup 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: W4
Acropolis #4
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Maestros of the Game 2
2026 GSL S2
RSL Revival: Season 5
2026 GSL S1
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.