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Sylencia
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1057 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-09 14:55:58
October 09 2015 14:55 GMT
#68
~ / i n ~

Today I Learned: I took a break from TL Mafia at 1000 posts.
Sylencia
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1057 Posts
October 12 2015 23:20 GMT
#93
Hi, should be around for a little bit... in half an hour.

Koshi why are you complaining about the setup now
Sylencia
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1057 Posts
October 13 2015 02:59 GMT
#115
On October 13 2015 11:54 Alakaslam wrote:
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On October 13 2015 08:15 Koshi wrote:
Town.

Going to go with a plynch all liars through the entire game. Will totally ruin the game because town are lying bitches. But I will do it.

If nobody lies I will use spidersenses.

4 antitown. Way too much anti town kp. First days are a joke.

If there are 9 townies who need to lynch 4 anti townies while these antitownies got 4 kp and are immune to the other antitownies their kp the game is a total joke.

There are also way to many blue roles. Blue roles with completely random effects based on the skill of the player.


So tbh. If I try and lynch anti town D1 I will just get rewarded with a bullet and anti town will start shooting town faster than we can lynch anti town. Doesn't make any fucking sense.



tldr 1: Koshi is going to do absolutely nothing the first days because the game looks like a joke. He might say some random shit about random people. He will appreciate it that when these random people are actually anti town that they won't shoot Koshi.

tldr2: Read tldr 1

This dude looks like a cop-out artist here

Why

What is the true motive for this post?


I believe he's legitimately just bitching about how any good play will be rewarded with almost guaranteed death. With so many anti-town roles there isn't much sense in sticking your neck out so much as an anti-town member. /naivethoughts
Sylencia
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1057 Posts
October 13 2015 05:40 GMT
#121
The more haikus made
The more I want to kill you
JK, good gimmick

Also CopCake, how does that 1 line make Superbia anti-town?
Sylencia
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1057 Posts
October 13 2015 14:21 GMT
#241
On October 13 2015 19:41 Xatalos wrote:
Sylencia... is a bit worrying. I don't really like the style of merely offering weak side-commentary to the game so far. That's like one of the classic Mafia signs.


It's also classic me.

On October 13 2015 20:12 Xatalos wrote:
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On October 13 2015 20:09 Xatalos wrote:
##Vote: Sylencia


Oh yeah... This was mostly because I disliked his style of just cautiously/briefly popping into the thread to make some semi-useless comment, then disappear. That and the fact that others who had posted so far had at least something town-leaning going for them.


Taking a nap when the thread was so slow is a crime these days? How is it ever an indicator when you take such a short time frame and claim 'I disappeared' for like 4 hours. If I said crappy things and disappeared for the next 30 hours I'd understand suspicion but come on, it's been like 5 hours since I last checked and like 8 hours since my last post or something because there was only 2 things said beyond my last post -_-
Sylencia
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1057 Posts
October 13 2015 14:25 GMT
#243
On October 13 2015 21:31 Rels wrote:
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On October 13 2015 21:28 Rels wrote:
On October 13 2015 19:24 Tictock wrote:
Sad news Fellows...

After today I am out of potent smoke-ables.

This could even mean I give meaningful and thought out posts eventually this game.

I don't like that post. TT always "eventually gives meaningful and thought out posts". People sometimes thinks he's scummy because his thoughts are hard to follow, and he's very prompt at making conspiracy theory, even if it involves putting doubt on near-confirmed townies; but he's always re evalutating and thinking about solving the game.

Here TT is saying him making meaningful and thought out posts is rare; which is not true.

This post by town!TT doesn't make sense, as it's not true he doesn't do meaningful posts.
This post by not-town!TT makes sense, as it does a few things:
- gives him an excuse his current "useless" behavious
- promises to do more later
- BIGGER THING: creates the premise that if he does "meaningful" posts, it will be a rare thing for him, and we should townread him for that. But that is just not true; TT as town always does meaningful posts


It's a null read because so many people say things like that regardless of alignment though. I literally would've posted something to that nature if I didn't just read it
Sylencia
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1057 Posts
October 13 2015 14:34 GMT
#246
On October 13 2015 22:24 Rels wrote:
OK I know what bothered me about Superbia. This post:
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On October 13 2015 20:21 Superbia wrote:
Also brb.

was made 12 hours after this post:
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On October 13 2015 08:03 Superbia wrote:
Brb.

So two times he quit the thread saying "brb", as he felt the need to warn us he was leaving. It is not-town indicative 'cause it indicates he is concerned about how he looks.

And I say "he was leaving" even if "brb" doesn't indicate per se an exit because that's what he did both times: after the first he posted this and left:
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On October 13 2015 08:52 Superbia wrote:
I actually can't rly play atm. Be back later tomorrow probably. Don't like Moosy's reaction to Koshi.

After the second he posted nothing.


Does it mean anything though if he mentioned he was going to be mostly unavailable today pre-game? It's the primary reason why I haven't trusted the claims on Superbia yet because the primary point has been about the "brbs" and "can't play" comments.
Sylencia
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1057 Posts
October 13 2015 14:49 GMT
#249
On October 13 2015 23:26 Xatalos wrote:
Or overall what's your take on the recent events / main reads?


Reserving judgement based on recent events because I'm still processing it (read: I'm not trying very hard). Main read is CopCake anti-town because their reasoning baffles me (aka there is no reasoning) and I can't understand a train of process that goes:

Suspect A: 1 word brb
Suspect B: Crap haiku

Suspect A gets the vote.
Sylencia
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1057 Posts
October 13 2015 23:41 GMT
#377
##Vote CopCake

Posts post-return sound like they come from a 3rd party who's only worried about mafia team. Unlike a lot of other people who used the word "mafia" during this game, it doesn't have the same implication that it means mafia/3p. Not convinced at all by the reasoning too.
Sylencia
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1057 Posts
October 14 2015 00:50 GMT
#416
On October 14 2015 08:43 Koshi wrote:
Can you explain that Sylencia? What is he afraid of?


Town = Maf/3p are out to get you
Maf = 3p are out to get you
3p = Maf are out to get you

If you are town there is no reason to ignore the presence of the 3p team.
Sylencia
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1057 Posts
October 14 2015 01:08 GMT
#420
Also pretty sure unless town plays catastrophically bad, we have a pretty good shot of winning considering 3p is almost half a team, mafia team is stronger but is balanced by only having 2 people and in addition maf/3p can end up killing each other anyways. If the parity cop miraculously survives to D3 then that single comparison check should be good enough to carry us through the rest of the game.

tl;dr 9:2:2 is still fine even if it goes down to like 3:2:2 w/ 1+ power role after 2 days
Sylencia
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1057 Posts
October 14 2015 10:55 GMT
#505
On October 14 2015 17:51 Tictock wrote:
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On October 14 2015 09:50 Sylencia wrote:
On October 14 2015 08:43 Koshi wrote:
Can you explain that Sylencia? What is he afraid of?


Town = Maf/3p are out to get you
Maf = 3p are out to get you
3p = Maf are out to get you

If you are town there is no reason to ignore the presence of the 3p team.


Pretty sure Town is out to get Mafis and 3p as well... their lives aren't that kushy.


I'm talking about public hunting though, maf/3p might blue hunt but they'd never admit to it. 3ps only need to publicly hunt mafia and vice versa. That's why I'm saying it's strange the way CopCake uses "mafia" because it didn't carry the air of "mafia = mafia + 3p", which can only be reduced to a 3p role.

Also what's DMA
Sylencia
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1057 Posts
October 14 2015 11:05 GMT
#506
Anyways, given the swingy nature of the game I'm going to approach it 1-2 people at a time.

If CopCake doesn't go down for whatever reason, Onegu is next because no matter what role he is, he is a detriment to town. Given the initial disadvantage we have, losing a vote and a voice over a more active townie would be terrible.
Sylencia
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1057 Posts
October 14 2015 14:14 GMT
#536
On October 14 2015 20:33 gobbledydook wrote:
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On October 14 2015 20:05 Sylencia wrote:
Anyways, given the swingy nature of the game I'm going to approach it 1-2 people at a time.

If CopCake doesn't go down for whatever reason, Onegu is next because no matter what role he is, he is a detriment to town. Given the initial disadvantage we have, losing a vote and a voice over a more active townie would be terrible.



Played with him before
He's far from useless at all
Terrible P Lynch


Most of the games I remember with Onegu with this sort of start has ended in a near-silent Onegu. I don't see why this would change unless my memory was wrong.

@Xat: The way she posted just stuck in my mind on the way to the station so I picked it apart a bit and figured it was probably posted from 3p POV. If I was mafia there wouldn't be a need to go to that level of detail in regards to pushing CC because she already looked pretty scummy purely from the contents.

Also, I'm not going to be posting more than I need to on Day 1s because honestly I find them such a crapshoot anyways and so long as you get some idea of where I'm at it's better than me trying to "reach" for reads, which I'm terrible at and makes me look terrible regardless of alignment. Hence why you're probably unhappy with my activity.
Sylencia
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1057 Posts
October 14 2015 23:17 GMT
#753
Waking up for work 90 minutes before deadline and arriving at work to check thread 15 minutes after deadline... sad. My vote would not have changed regardless though.

At least there's 24 hours to catch up now.
Sylencia
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1057 Posts
October 15 2015 11:19 GMT
#803
So skimming from around p35 and seeing the post-flip stuff already, Superbia is town in my books.

CPR on moosy is fine move, but I can see things going awry here depending on the outcome. That'll be for day 2 though. Reading more now
Sylencia
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1057 Posts
October 15 2015 12:05 GMT
#816
Koshi why are you being so childish over an argument with Xat? Xat might've had some bad reasoning for why Moosy acted like he did but he's not necessarily scummy for doing so. I haven't found anything that points to why he's a "threat" and the only legitimate point you've made against him is this:

On October 13 2015 20:17 Koshi wrote:
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On October 13 2015 20:06 Xatalos wrote:
On October 13 2015 20:00 Koshi wrote:
Seriously Xatalos. The explanation is standing in the damn vote. Moosy did completely nothing. He could be town doing completely nothing. Or he could be mafia doing completely nothing.

Town sometimes adds some silly plan in their first post, or try to do something. Mafia doesn't have do to shit so sometimes they forget they actually need to pretend to be town in the start.

Moosy didn't do shit. Hence. He could be mafia. Still didn't do shit when I poked him to do shit. Passive as fuck. Defensive. ezgame.

I am reading this forum on TL Dota so I have no filters. But I am probably 100% right.


I got the opposite picture? He didn't really do anything, but he seemed pretty relaxed despite your attack (not defensive / worried). And I think Mafia very rarely just "forget they need to pretend to look town". Rather, it's much more likely that Mafia do something at least resembling an okayish starter while townies often just explode.

Everything you wrote here has nothing to do with the current situation.
You even fucking contradict your read on Moosy and your expectation what a townie would do.


But defense on Moosy isn't going to tell us anything unless Moosy flips. The rest of your posts beyond that are just calling for his head...

Gonna be honest though I haven't read Xatalos's filter yet
Sylencia
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1057 Posts
October 15 2015 12:07 GMT
#817
I probably should've picked up on the use of "threat" over "anti-town" but my mind kind of just brushed it to the side for some reason.. I blame 30 degree nights
Sylencia
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1057 Posts
October 15 2015 12:09 GMT
#818
On October 15 2015 21:00 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2015 20:40 deconduo wrote:
On October 15 2015 07:29 Koshi wrote:
On October 15 2015 07:20 deconduo wrote:
On October 15 2015 07:14 Superbia wrote:
I would like an answer to this question from everyone btw. Just real quick:

Is copcake scum?
Is moosy scum?
Why are you voting [copcake/moosy] over [moosy/copcake]?
What's your top 3 town?


At this point I believe there is no way both copcake and moosy are town. If they are, I don't want to play mafia for the next 20 years.


1) Yes
2) Yes
3) Moosy is groupie, so is essentially a wasted lynch. Better to lynch copcake.
4) Hmm, nothing much has changed on the town side since my first vote. Rels, Koshi ,superbia stay in the top 3 for now.

You are anti town.


On October 15 2015 07:34 Koshi wrote:
On October 15 2015 07:34 deconduo wrote:
On October 15 2015 07:29 Koshi wrote:
On October 15 2015 07:20 deconduo wrote:
On October 15 2015 07:14 Superbia wrote:
I would like an answer to this question from everyone btw. Just real quick:

Is copcake scum?
Is moosy scum?
Why are you voting [copcake/moosy] over [moosy/copcake]?
What's your top 3 town?


At this point I believe there is no way both copcake and moosy are town. If they are, I don't want to play mafia for the next 20 years.


1) Yes
2) Yes
3) Moosy is groupie, so is essentially a wasted lynch. Better to lynch copcake.
4) Hmm, nothing much has changed on the town side since my first vote. Rels, Koshi ,superbia stay in the top 3 for now.

You are anti town.


Why? There is no good reason for us to want to lynch groupie at all this game.

It's ok. I know you are mafia. It's fine.


On October 15 2015 09:06 Koshi wrote:
Moosy
deconduo
Xatalos


Mafia 3p cpr,

please kill above targets.


Koshi is scum for this btw.

- Lynching groupie doesn't remove them from the game, it just stops them from posting in the thread
- Therefore lynching groupie is the same as a no-lynch
- Therefore Koshi is pushing the fact that a no-lynch is pro-town
- Therefore Koshi is scum.


Are you saying you're the groupie >.> wat


He saying KOshi highlighted decon's point about not wanting to lynch Moosy the groupie, and called him scum while pushing for a Moosy lynch even though decon's point is perfectly valid.
Sylencia
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1057 Posts
October 15 2015 14:32 GMT
#857
On October 15 2015 20:29 Koshi wrote:
Xatalos can also die by CPR doc.


On October 15 2015 21:50 Koshi wrote:
Xat is a threat to the anti town people. I am talking to the faction Xat isn't in.


I don't understand where you are going with this. Why are you trying to direct anti-town to their apparent threat? And you reference the CPR doc too so really you aren't talking to the faction Xat is in.

Wtf.
Sylencia
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1057 Posts
October 15 2015 14:38 GMT
#864
Koshi are you the groupie :D
Sylencia
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1057 Posts
October 16 2015 04:38 GMT
#1133
What a flattering Mafia QT.
Sylencia
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1057 Posts
October 16 2015 05:00 GMT
#1135
To be honest though I don't even feel like I did anything, I only said that a quiet Onegu is a useless Onegu the rest of my stuff had zero idea if it was going to lead to something tangible.
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