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Superbia
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Netherlands8889 Posts
September 25 2015 01:31 GMT
#11
2kp per night? Sounds like a nice & quick game. :D

Sign me up. /in
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Superbia
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September 27 2015 09:34 GMT
#27
Actually I have to join Slam in his signup state. The next two weeks will be very busy, so I won't be able to play unless it starts at around Oct 11th. =/ So:
/tentative in
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Superbia
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October 12 2015 17:20 GMT
#77
Pre-game excuse: I'll be gone most of Tuesday.
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Superbia
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October 12 2015 23:03 GMT
#82
Town.
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Superbia
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October 12 2015 23:03 GMT
#83
Brb.
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Superbia
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October 12 2015 23:52 GMT
#100
I actually can't rly play atm. Be back later tomorrow probably. Don't like Moosy's reaction to Koshi.
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Superbia
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October 13 2015 10:58 GMT
#147
I clicked myself and deleted myself.
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Superbia
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October 13 2015 11:00 GMT
#149
Oh yeah:

Claims post N1 need to be evaluated on their own.
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Superbia
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October 13 2015 11:10 GMT
#155
On October 13 2015 20:05 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2015 20:00 Superbia wrote:
Oh yeah:

Claims post N1 need to be evaluated on their own.


Yea, I have no idea what your doing this game...


Making a post. But please, elaborate on this.
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Superbia
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October 13 2015 11:15 GMT
#160
Actually not going to post my post. Had a nice little theory written up about how I think both mafia and third party will play this game. Going to post it later (mayb n1) after people have "played". ;p
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Superbia
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October 13 2015 11:16 GMT
#161
On October 13 2015 20:12 Tictock wrote:
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On October 13 2015 20:10 Superbia wrote:
On October 13 2015 20:05 Tictock wrote:
On October 13 2015 20:00 Superbia wrote:
Oh yeah:

Claims post N1 need to be evaluated on their own.


Yea, I have no idea what your doing this game...


Making a post. But please, elaborate on this.


Do I need to? Seems better to wait for this post.


Well, yes. It is something that needs to be said and repeated throughout this game, as townies have a tendency not to read the OP. Third party can make stealth kills (no reveal), and they're likely to hunt PRs.
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Superbia
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October 13 2015 11:19 GMT
#165
dun dun dunnnn.
Btw: I like koshi. I think I like slam. I still dislike moosy. Moosy did this whole "let's be friends" routine bullshit which I completely disliked. And he did it with 3 separate people. (Hint: he probably doesn't have a read on any of them)
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Superbia
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October 13 2015 11:21 GMT
#167
Xatalos, who would you want to kill right now? (besides me for hacking your voting tool, apparently :D)
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Superbia
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October 13 2015 11:21 GMT
#168
Also brb.
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Superbia
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October 13 2015 22:34 GMT
#353
I'm here to grace you with my presence, even though I am very tired (just came back after a long day). Though I will be mainly playing binding of isaac (I'm literally 2 items - the super bandaid and the d4 - away from platinum god), I will provide some commentary about a few oddities I picked up on the phone:

Copcake shady because of inconsistent play style. Drops some town reads out of nowhere in starting post with a very shitty push on me. Then next post hammers more on me, but doesn't continue to town read anyone else, even though way more information has been presented compared to her first town reads. No read progression.

Deconduo reads me town, which means he has a very good read, or has TMI and is basing it on that. Either way I like people calling me town so keep it up. (I probably like him). This also has to do with the long term strategy I'm playing which involves rewarding people calling me town in every game, causing everyone to call me town in every game at some point in the far future.

Other things have been said but I skimmed shit on phone so I don't have a strong opinion on other shit yet. Though moosy needs to do shit. Oh yeah, moosy said something about me probably being scared of his mafia play or something which indicates that he's reading me town, even though he has no reason to or hasn't done so whatsoever, so moosy is probably some sort of mafia.

I'm here for some questions, though I probably won't have any substantial answers as to content-wise since I am - in general - woefully uninformed.

Also brb.
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Superbia
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October 13 2015 22:53 GMT
#355
Oh yeah.

##Vote: MoosyDoosy

I think you're mafia. Do something to make me think you're not mafia and I may unvote you in the future.

Brb.
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Superbia
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October 13 2015 23:20 GMT
#371
Moosy explain how my play is different pls.

Brb.
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Superbia
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October 13 2015 23:27 GMT
#372
Actually I'll give you like 12 hours to come up with some excuse since I'm going to sleep.
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Superbia
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October 14 2015 13:52 GMT
#525
7 pages to go. I have near-auto.
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Superbia
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October 14 2015 14:01 GMT
#527
[Town]
Superbia
Glowingbear
Slam
TT
[Lean town cutoff point]
Rels
Deconduo
Xatalos


[Lean-Mafia]
Koshi

[Mafia]
Moosy
Copcake
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Superbia
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October 14 2015 14:01 GMT
#528
Oh fuck, should've added colours.
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Superbia
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October 14 2015 14:02 GMT
#529
[image loading]
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Superbia
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October 14 2015 14:05 GMT
#530
At this point it's also very possible moosy and copcake are together (as pointed out before), since they're playing horribly (for whatever alignment they are) and copcake despised moosy from last game. This tragic but hilarious situation is something I've considered pre-game and I kind of hope it becomes fact (especially if moosy rolled crossfire and copcake rolled groupie, the irony would be palpable)
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Superbia
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October 14 2015 14:07 GMT
#531
Oh yeah, Koshi, you're leaning mafia because:

Koshi - Rage on set up p5. Initially had him town for properly evaluating game as being different from normal mafia, which is town-indicative (imo). Overly emotional posts, maybe fake emotion? Haven't played with Koshi I think. Then became clear that he had not properly evaluated game (leaving alone 3p??? lynching crossfire d1 is best case scenario for town). Did not know 3p rules, may be dumbtell. Angry posts after finding out, very meh. Lean-scum prob.
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Superbia
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October 14 2015 14:08 GMT
#532
Since I know you're going to ask.
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Superbia
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October 14 2015 14:09 GMT
#533
Oh and that list is in order of most [alignment] to least [alignment].
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Superbia
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October 14 2015 14:12 GMT
#534
Maybe Xatalos is above deconduo after Xatalos' last big post (with the "worlds").
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Superbia
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October 14 2015 14:14 GMT
#535
Going to do groceries now so.. (wait for it)
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Superbia
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October 14 2015 14:15 GMT
#537
Brb. (last time, I swear)
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Superbia
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October 14 2015 14:47 GMT
#543
Cool story.

Also I'm null on the people missing in that list. Rels. I think I can probably get a read on Sylencia and maybe dook but I haven't yet. Will see after dinner.

Also while on the surface this may appear as a substandard game, rules of mafia still follow, just slightly different. There's a difference between how people play town and how they play mafia, regardless of set up. It's a human thing.
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Superbia
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Netherlands8889 Posts
October 14 2015 14:48 GMT
#544
I also love how you bring up this huge "there's a big difference in how you read mafia this game you idiots!" and then follow it up with "Superbia is different from his town game, so he's mafia(/3p)!". Amazing.
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Superbia
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October 14 2015 14:54 GMT
#545
Also can you be concrete as to why I'm mafia?
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Superbia
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October 14 2015 21:35 GMT
#634
On October 15 2015 06:30 MoosyDoosy wrote:
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On October 15 2015 06:25 Xatalos wrote:
That's just not a reason to scumread anyone. Answering a question means being polite, and you can do it even if you're 100% sure someone is scum. And nobody sure as hell can't be 100% sure on anything during D1...

Please someone else put your vote down on CopCake. A no-lynch would be pretty sad in this situation. At best we lynch anti-town (pretty likely), at worst we move the game forward at our pace rather than having CopCake as a problem tomorrow.

ok.

##unvote
##vote: CopCake


This is lmfao. Copcake is the only one who shares the scumread on me. And you want to kill her.
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Superbia
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October 14 2015 21:36 GMT
#635
I'm also half here now. GF is around so I'm going to chill with her for a bit. Will be back in time before deadline for some necessary discussion. Would prefer lynch on moosy over copcake probably. But she's playing differently from her town play so I really don't mind that lynch either.
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Superbia
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October 14 2015 22:01 GMT
#640
On October 15 2015 06:38 MoosyDoosy wrote:
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On October 15 2015 06:35 Superbia wrote:
On October 15 2015 06:30 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 15 2015 06:25 Xatalos wrote:
That's just not a reason to scumread anyone. Answering a question means being polite, and you can do it even if you're 100% sure someone is scum. And nobody sure as hell can't be 100% sure on anything during D1...

Please someone else put your vote down on CopCake. A no-lynch would be pretty sad in this situation. At best we lynch anti-town (pretty likely), at worst we move the game forward at our pace rather than having CopCake as a problem tomorrow.

ok.

##unvote
##vote: CopCake


This is lmfao. Copcake is the only one who shares the scumread on me. And you want to kill her.

tbh I haven't really read her's, GB's, and Slam's posts in any decent way whatsoever. :D But sure I am filled 100% with bloodlust to lynch her. There's just this ridiculous idea going around that I'm her groupie and I refuse to be anyone's groupie. I would lynch myself but I don't know if it's against the rules or not and rayn isn't one to be forgiving about it like Half the Sky.


What are you even doing this game? Where did your scumread on me go? What was it in the first place?
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Superbia
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Netherlands8889 Posts
October 14 2015 22:08 GMT
#642
Where is copcake? Who is around right now?
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Superbia
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October 14 2015 22:12 GMT
#645
All right, you've probably said it before, but what's your opinion on copcake and moosy? What is your vote on copcake? Who else is in your line of sight?
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Superbia
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October 14 2015 22:14 GMT
#646
I would like an answer to this question from everyone btw. Just real quick:

Is copcake scum?
Is moosy scum?
Why are you voting [copcake/moosy] over [moosy/copcake]?
What's your top 3 town?


At this point I believe there is no way both copcake and moosy are town. If they are, I don't want to play mafia for the next 20 years.
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Superbia
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October 14 2015 22:21 GMT
#649
On October 15 2015 07:20 Tictock wrote:
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On October 15 2015 05:49 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I think it's pretty great that I'm skating by with my terrible play and not getting lynched tbh.

If you guys want to do work, I'm still up for shenanigans onto Superbia/gobble/decon. gobble would be kind of a policy lynch though.


I'm pretty open to shenannieson gobble.


No?
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Superbia
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October 14 2015 22:26 GMT
#651
Why the hell do you want to go on gobble?
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Superbia
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October 14 2015 22:28 GMT
#656
I second CPRing moosy, probably.
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Superbia
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October 14 2015 22:28 GMT
#657
On October 15 2015 07:27 Tictock wrote:
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On October 15 2015 07:21 Superbia wrote:
On October 15 2015 07:20 Tictock wrote:
On October 15 2015 05:49 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I think it's pretty great that I'm skating by with my terrible play and not getting lynched tbh.

If you guys want to do work, I'm still up for shenanigans onto Superbia/gobble/decon. gobble would be kind of a policy lynch though.


I'm pretty open to shenannieson gobble.


No?


Yea yea, decundo was right. Stupid idea in a majority lynch game.


Why was it alluring to you?
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Superbia
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October 14 2015 22:30 GMT
#660
On October 15 2015 07:29 Tictock wrote:
SorryI meant to do this awhile ago.

##Vote: Moosy


Wait what? You just wanted to join a shennanie PROPOSED by Moosy.

???
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Superbia
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October 14 2015 22:31 GMT
#661
On October 15 2015 07:27 Alakaslam wrote:
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On October 15 2015 02:18 Xatalos wrote:
How do you read CopCake?

She is similar to me when you remove all chupazi tactics. I used to have a Remi Gaillard video for saying "come fight me"

I think I can read her. She is town folks.


Who is scum, slam?
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Superbia
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October 14 2015 22:31 GMT
#662
On October 15 2015 07:30 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2015 07:29 Tictock wrote:
SorryI meant to do this awhile ago.

##Vote: Moosy


Wait what? You just wanted to join a shennanie PROPOSED by Moosy.

???

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Superbia
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October 14 2015 22:31 GMT
#663
Re-iterating for wtf-ness.
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Superbia
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October 14 2015 22:31 GMT
#664
No clue what to make of this. I think TT just dropped way down my list.
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October 14 2015 22:34 GMT
#670
That's a fair point, koshi. I would've preferred to hear his opinion about it. Still makes me feel like he doesn't have any real scum-reads. Also mafia has no real inclination to hunt 3p during the day.
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Superbia
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October 14 2015 22:37 GMT
#672
I'm like 85% sure that moosy is lurking atm. Maybe copcake too.
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October 14 2015 22:39 GMT
#676
Slam in what circle am I for you?

Also in what scumcircle are people?
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Superbia
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October 14 2015 22:39 GMT
#677
I'm pretty much up for lynching moosy, if people are getting cold feet about copcake.
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Superbia
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October 14 2015 22:40 GMT
#681
What? What do you mean no lynch?
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Superbia
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October 14 2015 22:41 GMT
#682
Oh god. There's a fucking majority lynch.
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Superbia
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October 14 2015 22:41 GMT
#683
It did not actually register until now.
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Superbia
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October 14 2015 22:43 GMT
#685
Agreed. Sorry if you're town copcake. I will switch vote if needed.
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Superbia
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October 14 2015 22:45 GMT
#688
moosy - "let's be friends". #214 Indicates he thinks I'm town (you're like this because you're scared of me -> indicates he thinks I'm evaluating from a town perspective). Says "brb" is only meta-indicative in reponse to Rel's push (soft defense of me). Then scum-reads me lmao. For no good reason. Pushes me for brb even though he soft-defended me for it before LMFAO. Also during mid-d1 he's like "I'm doing nothing!" and then start pushing some very forced (imo) reads when people start pushing on him.
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Superbia
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October 14 2015 22:46 GMT
#690
Like I think moosy is just straight up the more likely hit if any. But I do think that both need to be shot. x:
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Superbia
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October 14 2015 22:48 GMT
#695
Yes, keeping an eye. If no way for shennanies I will switch vote at 57 just in case.
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Superbia
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October 14 2015 22:50 GMT
#700
2vRest for both scum and 3p make these wagons way more interesting/harder to evaluate.
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Superbia
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October 14 2015 22:51 GMT
#704
Copcake change your vote to Moosy.
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Superbia
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October 14 2015 22:53 GMT
#707
For the record I think TT may just be a decent parity-cop check.
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Superbia
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October 14 2015 22:54 GMT
#710
On October 15 2015 07:51 Superbia wrote:
Copcake change your vote to Moosy.

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Superbia
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October 14 2015 22:55 GMT
#712
Like, nevermind. This is too late.
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Superbia
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October 14 2015 22:57 GMT
#722
There was opportunity for you here copcake. =/ I'm pretty sure you're not going to flip mafia here because of the suicidal play. Either that or moosy is the crossfire to your groupie, but I don't think so at this point.
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October 14 2015 22:57 GMT
#723
##Unvote
##Vote: CopCake

Majority shit.
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October 14 2015 22:58 GMT
#725
Yeah I'm pretty sure she's going to flip town. =/
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Superbia
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October 14 2015 22:59 GMT
#730
Get real platinum god you half-frenchie.
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Superbia
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October 14 2015 23:02 GMT
#735
Meh. CPR moosy.
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Superbia
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October 14 2015 23:03 GMT
#737
I've also played and finished lamb. Rebirth is way better, since it's more streamlined (no flash) and adds a shitload of stuff. Very recommended.
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Superbia
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October 14 2015 23:06 GMT
#740
Maybe. Meh.
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October 14 2015 23:06 GMT
#741
We needed 1 person to go on moosy.
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Superbia
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October 14 2015 23:07 GMT
#742
Ugh. He's probably mafia and will just ignore the bullet. So sick.
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October 14 2015 23:07 GMT
#743
Will confirm his alignment though.
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October 14 2015 23:08 GMT
#744
All right. If moosy doesn't die during the night lynch him tomorrow. 100%. We will have to assume the CPR bullet was absorbed so CPR doesn't have to claim.
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October 14 2015 23:10 GMT
#747
Good plan.
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October 14 2015 23:19 GMT
#754
To third party

I implore you to shoot moosy (if he's not in your faction) or who you think is mafia tonight. Let me explain:

Mafia can roll over town and you here if moosy ends up being town (near impossible) or 3p.
If moosy is either of these, they will put their save on moosy and both town and yourself (3rd party) is going to be fucked:
- Town will be forced to lynch moosy d2.
- Mafia will be immortal to your kp n2 because of it (mafia doctor can save himself).
I.e.: You will be in a shit situation. You must have already realized that you are in a shit situation compared to mafia, as you essentially cannot touch them during the night. They are stronger than you.

If moosy is town (again, very unlikely) OR 3p, mafia will go for this play tonight. This means that they are (50%) vulnerable to your KP tonight. This is your chance. Shoot mafia.

And if moosy is mafia you guarantee his death anyway.
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Superbia
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October 14 2015 23:22 GMT
#756
My bad. I'll just go back to watching shit then. ;p
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October 14 2015 23:23 GMT
#758
On October 15 2015 08:22 Alakaslam wrote:
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On October 15 2015 07:55 Superbia wrote:
Like, nevermind. This is too late.

Why? We have like 2 hours


? We had 5 minutes.
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October 15 2015 11:09 GMT
#802
On October 15 2015 19:26 Rels wrote:
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On October 15 2015 19:07 Koshi wrote:
On October 15 2015 18:07 Rels wrote:
On October 15 2015 07:30 Superbia wrote:
On October 15 2015 07:29 Tictock wrote:
SorryI meant to do this awhile ago.

##Vote: Moosy


Wait what? You just wanted to join a shennanie PROPOSED by Moosy.

???

Wow weird. Here superbia forgets there are multiple anti town teams. But I'm pretty sure he was the one bringing up the point about copcake saying "mafia" so she must be 3p. Its weird he now forgot that moosy can be not town pushing another not town, so its not weird TT can push both moosy and moosy s target.

It's not weird. It was a legit concern in any game except this one.

Thats kinda what I was saying ... He made the difference before, and didn't for that post


This is true, and maybe I forgot for the moment, but I still think it is somewhat suspicious. Tictock also just said that moosy has had shit tier reads, but apparently he was more than willing than join on the wagon on gobble..

Like how much do you trust your own reads? If you think moosy is mafia why would you not want to push on him? Would you not be instinctively apprehensive of the pushes he suggests (even in this setup)? Especially if you call his overall play shitty?
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October 15 2015 11:30 GMT
#807
On October 15 2015 20:20 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2015 20:09 Superbia wrote:
On October 15 2015 19:26 Rels wrote:
On October 15 2015 19:07 Koshi wrote:
On October 15 2015 18:07 Rels wrote:
On October 15 2015 07:30 Superbia wrote:
On October 15 2015 07:29 Tictock wrote:
SorryI meant to do this awhile ago.

##Vote: Moosy


Wait what? You just wanted to join a shennanie PROPOSED by Moosy.

???

Wow weird. Here superbia forgets there are multiple anti town teams. But I'm pretty sure he was the one bringing up the point about copcake saying "mafia" so she must be 3p. Its weird he now forgot that moosy can be not town pushing another not town, so its not weird TT can push both moosy and moosy s target.

It's not weird. It was a legit concern in any game except this one.

Thats kinda what I was saying ... He made the difference before, and didn't for that post


This is true, and maybe I forgot for the moment, but I still think it is somewhat suspicious. Tictock also just said that moosy has had shit tier reads, but apparently he was more than willing than join on the wagon on gobble..

Like how much do you trust your own reads? If you think moosy is mafia why would you not want to push on him? Would you not be instinctively apprehensive of the pushes he suggests (even in this setup)? Especially if you call his overall play shitty?

Mm a few things, and you will tell me if that changed your mind:
- that's gobble we re talking about :p nobody can be "wrong" on him because he didn't produce enough content for us to evaluate. So TT can think moosy have shit read, but that doesn't apply to gobble
- TT said before gobble was one of his scumread
- I think I was the one first proposing the gobble switch, not moosy. I might be wrong but I don't think so


I have a history of catching mafia at EoD and getting talked out of it. But your points are fair enough. I was unaware (or forgot) that both you and TT had been scumreading gobble. There was a good reason I was reading TT town before anyway.
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October 15 2015 11:32 GMT
#808
Xatalos would definitely be a good cop check (something feels off, like he's too formal- no emotion), but my read on him at this point is not good enough yet for me to call out a CPR on him, Koshi.
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October 15 2015 13:37 GMT
#845
Moosy talk about your d1 and how your reads have evolved since then. Moreover, what do you think of your d1?
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October 15 2015 21:59 GMT
#919
My thoughts about setup:

Mafia is going to do mafia things. I think they are going to feel pretty damn safe for the first 1-2 days. They essentially cannot lose during the night phase. Mad physician is probably also going to keep healing himself for the entire game (except for every even night - n2, n4, past that doesn't matter). I think this lends itself to somewhat standard mafia play. They have no real reason to really hunt for third party during the day, as they rule the night. One might even argue that the extra kp during the night favors them.

Third party will probably be scrambling to get a PR read and killed during n1 (so they can claim it later). They cannot win against mafia during the night, and the crossfire also does not want to be on the front row in any sort of way (probably). Third party essentially resolves around getting one person (crossfire) not killed and using the day time to get mafia or town (depends which is stronger) killed. Which lends itself to defensive (crossfire) play and mafia/pr-hunting (groupie) play.

Summed up:
- Mafia rules the night. Essentially gives 0 shits about 3p especially during n1, n3 and n5 while they are both alive. Extra KP during the night will likely help mafia.
- 3p likely PR-hunts for the stealth shot during the night. Then will claim it near mylo-lylo. Or if it's cop/CPR claim it in an emergency/whatever while medic is still alive (else they get killed by mafia).
- Uncontested PR claims after n1 are still to be taken with a huge grain of salt and a hefty amount of evaluation.


Haven't (re-)evaluated yet on people. So good luck if I die.
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October 15 2015 22:00 GMT
#920
Well that was dramatic, just noticed we have 30 more minutes. Rofl. Too tired. Z_z
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October 15 2015 22:06 GMT
#923
On October 16 2015 07:05 Koshi wrote:
3p should find any of the mafia and let the groupie claim in thread when they do. Somewhere along the line.

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October 15 2015 22:08 GMT
#925
Jesus Koshi, 3p doesn't have the detective role. =/ I really don't like all these mistakes when it comes to 3p.
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October 15 2015 22:10 GMT
#926
Like I like most of what you're saying, but these mistakes really do start to sound like dumbtells.
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October 15 2015 22:12 GMT
#929
On October 16 2015 07:11 gobbledydook wrote:
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On October 16 2015 07:06 Koshi wrote:
And if these fucking mafia players shoot obvious towns instead of 3p they got 0 balls.

if 3p shoots into obvious towns instead of using both kp and detective role to find mafia they suck major ass.


Koshi's mafia
I think he just slipped big time
Explanations next...


?
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October 15 2015 22:17 GMT
#934
Koshi may we both live to the next day. I enjoy your posts.
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October 15 2015 22:21 GMT
#936
The post is stronger than the KP.
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October 15 2015 22:21 GMT
#937
mightier* fuck.
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October 15 2015 23:03 GMT
#943
Meh. Could be way worse. 3p KP seems to have been reduced. Since it is 3p KP it is likely that they landed on (hopefully) mafia or maybe medic save.

Groupie, out your KP and unite with town!
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October 15 2015 23:05 GMT
#946
Xatalos.. I don't like the start of that post at all. z_z
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October 15 2015 23:08 GMT
#948
Yup. Chances are 3p know who mafia is (2/3 chance).
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October 15 2015 23:10 GMT
#953
NO CLAIMS
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October 15 2015 23:10 GMT
#956
The CprDoc claim is probably okay-ish.
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October 15 2015 23:12 GMT
#962
Parity cop never fucking claims today unless there's like hard scum on him. Parity cop is useless until tomorrow.
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October 15 2015 23:14 GMT
#968
What?
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October 15 2015 23:14 GMT
#969
On October 16 2015 08:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
gobbledydook is the Fanatic groupie.


???
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October 15 2015 23:14 GMT
#970
What the fuck just happened?
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October 15 2015 23:15 GMT
#976
I am so fucking confused.
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October 15 2015 23:18 GMT
#982
Where can I find out what happened in the OP? I'm frantically reading but finding nothing. Halp.
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October 15 2015 23:21 GMT
#985
Gobble who did you guys target with KP during the night?
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October 15 2015 23:21 GMT
#988
On October 16 2015 08:18 Superbia wrote:
Where can I find out what happened in the OP? I'm frantically reading but finding nothing. Halp.


Rayn help pls
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October 15 2015 23:26 GMT
#991
Is ok rayn. Is all fine now.
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October 15 2015 23:27 GMT
#992
Let's slow down, obviously this is probably shit for 3p but would they have played it differently? Maybe. Not sure if we need to restart because of this tbh.
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October 15 2015 23:32 GMT
#995
Aww man.

[Mafia]
Xatalos
Onegu

[3p]
Rels
gobbledydook


Just guessing lol.
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October 15 2015 23:33 GMT
#1001
It's okay rayn. Just a small mistake, can happen. Do we do role reveals now?
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October 15 2015 23:34 GMT
#1004
Did I medic block the 3p? If not sylencia would've been my other save.
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October 15 2015 23:35 GMT
#1007
Haha, excellent! Job well done.
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October 15 2015 23:38 GMT
#1016
Man this day would've been so easy. Might've been too late though.
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October 15 2015 23:40 GMT
#1025
Naic gam slam you svengali
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October 15 2015 23:41 GMT
#1029
I was decently close-ish with my gut-guess. :D
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October 15 2015 23:43 GMT
#1031
Thanks for hosting anyway rayn! Too bad it got messed up, don't take it too hard!
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October 15 2015 23:44 GMT
#1034
Who was cop, TT?
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October 15 2015 23:44 GMT
#1035
I would've lynched rels for sure.
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October 15 2015 23:45 GMT
#1037
On October 16 2015 08:44 Koshi wrote:
TOWN VICTORY



[image loading]

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October 15 2015 23:45 GMT
#1038
Slam would've definitely fooled me for the next 1-2 days.
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October 15 2015 23:47 GMT
#1040
On October 16 2015 08:46 Koshi wrote:
I actually think I really love this set-up and would for sure replay it.


Rofl.
I like you Koshi, may we roll the same alignment again in a future game.
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October 15 2015 23:47 GMT
#1042
On October 16 2015 08:47 Xatalos wrote:
As for me, I think this setup seems pretty fun for anti-town, but not as much for town? Maybe.


It was pretty fun as a PR. I can see how it is fucking hard as town though. I think both PR and mafia need to hunt each other, however.
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October 15 2015 23:48 GMT
#1043
VT* that is.
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October 15 2015 23:48 GMT
#1045
Can we get QT links?
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October 15 2015 23:53 GMT
#1053
Moosy nothing personal but I have no idea what you were doing this game btw.
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October 15 2015 23:56 GMT
#1055
On October 16 2015 08:48 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2015 08:47 Superbia wrote:
On October 16 2015 08:46 Koshi wrote:
I actually think I really love this set-up and would for sure replay it.


Rofl.
I like you Koshi, may we roll the same alignment again in a future game.

I still need to sit out 2 games suddenly because I got screwed by the system.

#Koshididnothingwrong
#FreeKoshi



But we had fun for sure.
Somewhat disappointed you didn't save me.
You dutch people are so selfish.


Nah, I played a little less townie during night than you. Hence I'm a little more likely to receive KP during the night. I'm also a role. So save goes on me. Also I'm dutch and selfish. Secondary save target was Sylencia, as he was town and likely a PR (or at least likely to receive a PR-bullet). Third would've been between you and GB.
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October 15 2015 23:57 GMT
#1056
Sorry for misreading you Xatalos! The formal posts made my brain do the weirdies.
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October 15 2015 23:59 GMT
#1060
On October 16 2015 08:57 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2015 08:56 Superbia wrote:
On October 16 2015 08:48 Koshi wrote:
On October 16 2015 08:47 Superbia wrote:
On October 16 2015 08:46 Koshi wrote:
I actually think I really love this set-up and would for sure replay it.


Rofl.
I like you Koshi, may we roll the same alignment again in a future game.

I still need to sit out 2 games suddenly because I got screwed by the system.

#Koshididnothingwrong
#FreeKoshi



But we had fun for sure.
Somewhat disappointed you didn't save me.
You dutch people are so selfish.


Nah, I played a little less townie during night than you. Hence I'm a little more likely to receive KP during the night. I'm also a role. So save goes on me. Also I'm dutch and selfish. Secondary save target was Sylencia, as he was town and likely a PR (or at least likely to receive a PR-bullet). Third would've been between you and GB.

I don't know if we can be friends anymore. 3rd with GB.
What is this?


Alas, it is the destiny of the second-grade dutch-man. We can still be friendly neighbors?
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October 16 2015 00:00 GMT
#1062
On October 16 2015 08:59 Xatalos wrote:
Though I wonder how so many were strongly convinced I'm anti-town based on pretty null things :D


I mainly wanted to push you and see some emotion.
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October 16 2015 00:01 GMT
#1066
On October 16 2015 09:00 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2015 08:59 Superbia wrote:
On October 16 2015 08:57 Koshi wrote:
On October 16 2015 08:56 Superbia wrote:
On October 16 2015 08:48 Koshi wrote:
On October 16 2015 08:47 Superbia wrote:
On October 16 2015 08:46 Koshi wrote:
I actually think I really love this set-up and would for sure replay it.


Rofl.
I like you Koshi, may we roll the same alignment again in a future game.

I still need to sit out 2 games suddenly because I got screwed by the system.

#Koshididnothingwrong
#FreeKoshi



But we had fun for sure.
Somewhat disappointed you didn't save me.
You dutch people are so selfish.


Nah, I played a little less townie during night than you. Hence I'm a little more likely to receive KP during the night. I'm also a role. So save goes on me. Also I'm dutch and selfish. Secondary save target was Sylencia, as he was town and likely a PR (or at least likely to receive a PR-bullet). Third would've been between you and GB.

I don't know if we can be friends anymore. 3rd with GB.
What is this?


Alas, it is the destiny of the second-grade dutch-man. We can still be friendly neighbors?

How hot is your wife?


Tread carefully now. >:|
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October 16 2015 00:01 GMT
#1067
Goodnight!
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October 16 2015 00:05 GMT
#1073
I think more than one person had to go through the OP more.
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October 16 2015 00:08 GMT
#1076
Rayn stop being so emo pls.
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October 16 2015 00:20 GMT
#1080
All right. I'm off to sleep. Goodnight all!
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October 16 2015 01:02 GMT
#1101
On October 16 2015 09:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I would have lynched Rels and Xatalos 100*% for that shit, or like going on with that shit, hell Superbia even said "she is playing differently from her town games"?!?!!!?!!!!!?!?! ok..


I actually looked back at my filter like 30m ago and I noticed this enormous mistake as well. I actually compared this game to the previous game I played with her where she was mafia. But for some reason I had it mentally noted that she was town that game. So I should've concluded that she was town. So stupid.
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October 16 2015 01:08 GMT
#1105
I'm sleep-posting. Duh.
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October 16 2015 01:09 GMT
#1107
About to double-sleep though. Video almost over.
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#1109
They're all pretty good. Not that type of video, though. ;p
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October 19 2015 11:27 GMT
#1188
Yoyo.

To add on to that, in the original, the secret rooms is usually adjacent to exactly 3 rooms vertically and horizontally.
I.e.
OOO
OSO

In rebirth, it's the same, but you have to examine the adjacent rooms to see if they're actually accessible from the proposed secret location. Imagine that you have a map layout that's something like this:

ONO
W?E

And you want to know if ? is the secret room. You check W, N, and E and see if ? would be accessible to all of them. If, for example, E looks like this:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

? would not be the secret room, because it is normally inaccessible from E (due to the rocks).


Also red chest are completely variable, and can be absolutely awesome (free devil items) or contain nothing.
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#1189
Also the new super secret room rels is talking about is almost always adjacent to the room before the boss room on the first level. Decent rule of thumb.
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