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Claims post N1 need to be evaluated on their own. | ||
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On October 13 2015 20:05 Tictock wrote: Yea, I have no idea what your doing this game... Making a post. But please, elaborate on this. | ||
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On October 13 2015 20:12 Tictock wrote: Do I need to? Seems better to wait for this post. Well, yes. It is something that needs to be said and repeated throughout this game, as townies have a tendency not to read the OP. Third party can make stealth kills (no reveal), and they're likely to hunt PRs. | ||
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Btw: I like koshi. I think I like slam. I still dislike moosy. Moosy did this whole "let's be friends" routine bullshit which I completely disliked. And he did it with 3 separate people. (Hint: he probably doesn't have a read on any of them) | ||
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Copcake shady because of inconsistent play style. Drops some town reads out of nowhere in starting post with a very shitty push on me. Then next post hammers more on me, but doesn't continue to town read anyone else, even though way more information has been presented compared to her first town reads. No read progression. Deconduo reads me town, which means he has a very good read, or has TMI and is basing it on that. Either way I like people calling me town so keep it up. (I probably like him). This also has to do with the long term strategy I'm playing which involves rewarding people calling me town in every game, causing everyone to call me town in every game at some point in the far future. Other things have been said but I skimmed shit on phone so I don't have a strong opinion on other shit yet. Though moosy needs to do shit. Oh yeah, moosy said something about me probably being scared of his mafia play or something which indicates that he's reading me town, even though he has no reason to or hasn't done so whatsoever, so moosy is probably some sort of mafia. I'm here for some questions, though I probably won't have any substantial answers as to content-wise since I am - in general - woefully uninformed. Also brb. | ||
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##Vote: MoosyDoosy I think you're mafia. Do something to make me think you're not mafia and I may unvote you in the future. Brb. | ||
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Brb. | ||
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Superbia Glowingbear Slam TT [Lean town cutoff point] Rels Deconduo Xatalos [Lean-Mafia] Koshi [Mafia] Moosy Copcake | ||
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Koshi - Rage on set up p5. Initially had him town for properly evaluating game as being different from normal mafia, which is town-indicative (imo). Overly emotional posts, maybe fake emotion? Haven't played with Koshi I think. Then became clear that he had not properly evaluated game (leaving alone 3p??? lynching crossfire d1 is best case scenario for town). Did not know 3p rules, may be dumbtell. Angry posts after finding out, very meh. Lean-scum prob. | ||
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Also I'm null on the people missing in that list. Rels. I think I can probably get a read on Sylencia and maybe dook but I haven't yet. Will see after dinner. Also while on the surface this may appear as a substandard game, rules of mafia still follow, just slightly different. There's a difference between how people play town and how they play mafia, regardless of set up. It's a human thing. | ||
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This is lmfao. Copcake is the only one who shares the scumread on me. And you want to kill her. | ||
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On October 15 2015 06:38 MoosyDoosy wrote: tbh I haven't really read her's, GB's, and Slam's posts in any decent way whatsoever. :D But sure I am filled 100% with bloodlust to lynch her. There's just this ridiculous idea going around that I'm her groupie and I refuse to be anyone's groupie. I would lynch myself but I don't know if it's against the rules or not and rayn isn't one to be forgiving about it like Half the Sky. What are you even doing this game? Where did your scumread on me go? What was it in the first place? | ||
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Is copcake scum? Is moosy scum? Why are you voting [copcake/moosy] over [moosy/copcake]? What's your top 3 town? At this point I believe there is no way both copcake and moosy are town. If they are, I don't want to play mafia for the next 20 years. | ||
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No? | ||
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On October 15 2015 07:27 Tictock wrote: Yea yea, decundo was right. Stupid idea in a majority lynch game. Why was it alluring to you? | ||
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On October 15 2015 07:29 Tictock wrote: SorryI meant to do this awhile ago. ##Vote: Moosy Wait what? You just wanted to join a shennanie PROPOSED by Moosy. ??? | ||
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On October 15 2015 07:27 Alakaslam wrote: She is similar to me when you remove all chupazi tactics. I used to have a Remi Gaillard video for saying "come fight me" I think I can read her. She is town folks. Who is scum, slam? | ||
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On October 15 2015 07:30 Superbia wrote: Wait what? You just wanted to join a shennanie PROPOSED by Moosy. ??? | ||
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Also in what scumcircle are people? | ||
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On October 15 2015 07:51 Superbia wrote: Copcake change your vote to Moosy. | ||
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##Vote: CopCake Majority shit. | ||
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I implore you to shoot moosy (if he's not in your faction) or who you think is mafia tonight. Let me explain: Mafia can roll over town and you here if moosy ends up being town (near impossible) or 3p. If moosy is either of these, they will put their save on moosy and both town and yourself (3rd party) is going to be fucked: - Town will be forced to lynch moosy d2. - Mafia will be immortal to your kp n2 because of it (mafia doctor can save himself). I.e.: You will be in a shit situation. You must have already realized that you are in a shit situation compared to mafia, as you essentially cannot touch them during the night. They are stronger than you. If moosy is town (again, very unlikely) OR 3p, mafia will go for this play tonight. This means that they are (50%) vulnerable to your KP tonight. This is your chance. Shoot mafia. And if moosy is mafia you guarantee his death anyway. | ||
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? We had 5 minutes. | ||
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On October 15 2015 19:26 Rels wrote: Thats kinda what I was saying ... He made the difference before, and didn't for that post This is true, and maybe I forgot for the moment, but I still think it is somewhat suspicious. Tictock also just said that moosy has had shit tier reads, but apparently he was more than willing than join on the wagon on gobble.. Like how much do you trust your own reads? If you think moosy is mafia why would you not want to push on him? Would you not be instinctively apprehensive of the pushes he suggests (even in this setup)? Especially if you call his overall play shitty? | ||
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On October 15 2015 20:20 Rels wrote: Mm a few things, and you will tell me if that changed your mind: - that's gobble we re talking about :p nobody can be "wrong" on him because he didn't produce enough content for us to evaluate. So TT can think moosy have shit read, but that doesn't apply to gobble - TT said before gobble was one of his scumread - I think I was the one first proposing the gobble switch, not moosy. I might be wrong but I don't think so I have a history of catching mafia at EoD and getting talked out of it. But your points are fair enough. I was unaware (or forgot) that both you and TT had been scumreading gobble. There was a good reason I was reading TT town before anyway. | ||
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Mafia is going to do mafia things. I think they are going to feel pretty damn safe for the first 1-2 days. They essentially cannot lose during the night phase. Mad physician is probably also going to keep healing himself for the entire game (except for every even night - n2, n4, past that doesn't matter). I think this lends itself to somewhat standard mafia play. They have no real reason to really hunt for third party during the day, as they rule the night. One might even argue that the extra kp during the night favors them. Third party will probably be scrambling to get a PR read and killed during n1 (so they can claim it later). They cannot win against mafia during the night, and the crossfire also does not want to be on the front row in any sort of way (probably). Third party essentially resolves around getting one person (crossfire) not killed and using the day time to get mafia or town (depends which is stronger) killed. Which lends itself to defensive (crossfire) play and mafia/pr-hunting (groupie) play. Summed up: - Mafia rules the night. Essentially gives 0 shits about 3p especially during n1, n3 and n5 while they are both alive. Extra KP during the night will likely help mafia. - 3p likely PR-hunts for the stealth shot during the night. Then will claim it near mylo-lylo. Or if it's cop/CPR claim it in an emergency/whatever while medic is still alive (else they get killed by mafia). - Uncontested PR claims after n1 are still to be taken with a huge grain of salt and a hefty amount of evaluation. Haven't (re-)evaluated yet on people. So good luck if I die. | ||
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On October 16 2015 07:05 Koshi wrote: 3p should find any of the mafia and let the groupie claim in thread when they do. Somewhere along the line. | ||
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On October 16 2015 07:11 gobbledydook wrote: Koshi's mafia I think he just slipped big time Explanations next... ? | ||
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Groupie, out your KP and unite with town! | ||
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On October 16 2015 08:13 raynpelikoneet wrote: gobbledydook is the Fanatic groupie. ??? | ||
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On October 16 2015 08:18 Superbia wrote: Where can I find out what happened in the OP? I'm frantically reading but finding nothing. Halp. Rayn help pls | ||
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[Mafia] Xatalos Onegu [3p] Rels gobbledydook Just guessing lol. | ||
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On October 16 2015 08:44 Koshi wrote: TOWN VICTORY ![]() | ||
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On October 16 2015 08:46 Koshi wrote: I actually think I really love this set-up and would for sure replay it. Rofl. I like you Koshi, may we roll the same alignment again in a future game. | ||
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On October 16 2015 08:47 Xatalos wrote: As for me, I think this setup seems pretty fun for anti-town, but not as much for town? Maybe. It was pretty fun as a PR. ![]() | ||
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On October 16 2015 08:48 Koshi wrote: I still need to sit out 2 games suddenly because I got screwed by the system. #Koshididnothingwrong #FreeKoshi But we had fun for sure. Somewhat disappointed you didn't save me. You dutch people are so selfish. Nah, I played a little less townie during night than you. Hence I'm a little more likely to receive KP during the night. I'm also a role. So save goes on me. Also I'm dutch and selfish. Secondary save target was Sylencia, as he was town and likely a PR (or at least likely to receive a PR-bullet). Third would've been between you and GB. | ||
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On October 16 2015 08:57 Koshi wrote: I don't know if we can be friends anymore. 3rd with GB. What is this? Alas, it is the destiny of the second-grade dutch-man. We can still be friendly neighbors? | ||
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On October 16 2015 08:59 Xatalos wrote: Though I wonder how so many were strongly convinced I'm anti-town based on pretty null things :D I mainly wanted to push you and see some emotion. ![]() | ||
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On October 16 2015 09:57 raynpelikoneet wrote: I would have lynched Rels and Xatalos 100*% for that shit, or like going on with that shit, hell Superbia even said "she is playing differently from her town games"?!?!!!?!!!!!?!?! ok.. I actually looked back at my filter like 30m ago and I noticed this enormous mistake as well. I actually compared this game to the previous game I played with her where she was mafia. But for some reason I had it mentally noted that she was town that game. So I should've concluded that she was town. So stupid. | ||
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To add on to that, in the original, the secret rooms is usually adjacent to exactly 3 rooms vertically and horizontally. I.e. OOO OSO In rebirth, it's the same, but you have to examine the adjacent rooms to see if they're actually accessible from the proposed secret location. Imagine that you have a map layout that's something like this: ONO W?E And you want to know if ? is the secret room. You check W, N, and E and see if ? would be accessible to all of them. If, for example, E looks like this: + Show Spoiler + ![]() ? would not be the secret room, because it is normally inaccessible from E (due to the rocks). Also red chest are completely variable, and can be absolutely awesome (free devil items) or contain nothing. | ||
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