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Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
October 15 2015 10:27 GMT
#801
BTW you should try rebirth. Better in every way but the music
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
October 15 2015 11:09 GMT
#802
On October 15 2015 19:26 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2015 19:07 Koshi wrote:
On October 15 2015 18:07 Rels wrote:
On October 15 2015 07:30 Superbia wrote:
On October 15 2015 07:29 Tictock wrote:
SorryI meant to do this awhile ago.

##Vote: Moosy


Wait what? You just wanted to join a shennanie PROPOSED by Moosy.

???

Wow weird. Here superbia forgets there are multiple anti town teams. But I'm pretty sure he was the one bringing up the point about copcake saying "mafia" so she must be 3p. Its weird he now forgot that moosy can be not town pushing another not town, so its not weird TT can push both moosy and moosy s target.

It's not weird. It was a legit concern in any game except this one.

Thats kinda what I was saying ... He made the difference before, and didn't for that post


This is true, and maybe I forgot for the moment, but I still think it is somewhat suspicious. Tictock also just said that moosy has had shit tier reads, but apparently he was more than willing than join on the wagon on gobble..

Like how much do you trust your own reads? If you think moosy is mafia why would you not want to push on him? Would you not be instinctively apprehensive of the pushes he suggests (even in this setup)? Especially if you call his overall play shitty?
Minimal effort.
Sylencia
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1057 Posts
October 15 2015 11:19 GMT
#803
So skimming from around p35 and seeing the post-flip stuff already, Superbia is town in my books.

CPR on moosy is fine move, but I can see things going awry here depending on the outcome. That'll be for day 2 though. Reading more now
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
October 15 2015 11:20 GMT
#804
On October 15 2015 20:09 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2015 19:26 Rels wrote:
On October 15 2015 19:07 Koshi wrote:
On October 15 2015 18:07 Rels wrote:
On October 15 2015 07:30 Superbia wrote:
On October 15 2015 07:29 Tictock wrote:
SorryI meant to do this awhile ago.

##Vote: Moosy


Wait what? You just wanted to join a shennanie PROPOSED by Moosy.

???

Wow weird. Here superbia forgets there are multiple anti town teams. But I'm pretty sure he was the one bringing up the point about copcake saying "mafia" so she must be 3p. Its weird he now forgot that moosy can be not town pushing another not town, so its not weird TT can push both moosy and moosy s target.

It's not weird. It was a legit concern in any game except this one.

Thats kinda what I was saying ... He made the difference before, and didn't for that post


This is true, and maybe I forgot for the moment, but I still think it is somewhat suspicious. Tictock also just said that moosy has had shit tier reads, but apparently he was more than willing than join on the wagon on gobble..

Like how much do you trust your own reads? If you think moosy is mafia why would you not want to push on him? Would you not be instinctively apprehensive of the pushes he suggests (even in this setup)? Especially if you call his overall play shitty?

Mm a few things, and you will tell me if that changed your mind:
- that's gobble we re talking about :p nobody can be "wrong" on him because he didn't produce enough content for us to evaluate. So TT can think moosy have shit read, but that doesn't apply to gobble
- TT said before gobble was one of his scumread
- I think I was the one first proposing the gobble switch, not moosy. I might be wrong but I don't think so
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 15 2015 11:28 GMT
#805
On October 15 2015 19:27 Rels wrote:
BTW you should try rebirth. Better in every way but the music

I might. I haven't played Isaac in 2 years or so, I even bought lambs in sales without playing. Picked it up after I saw it in the thread and it is pretty good. I'll pick it up when there are sales again.
-66% = thx

I killed mom 12 times already in the past but yesterday I only once got to her feet and that was a special one that stomped me every second.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 15 2015 11:29 GMT
#806
Xatalos can also die by CPR doc.
I had a good night of sleep.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
October 15 2015 11:30 GMT
#807
On October 15 2015 20:20 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2015 20:09 Superbia wrote:
On October 15 2015 19:26 Rels wrote:
On October 15 2015 19:07 Koshi wrote:
On October 15 2015 18:07 Rels wrote:
On October 15 2015 07:30 Superbia wrote:
On October 15 2015 07:29 Tictock wrote:
SorryI meant to do this awhile ago.

##Vote: Moosy


Wait what? You just wanted to join a shennanie PROPOSED by Moosy.

???

Wow weird. Here superbia forgets there are multiple anti town teams. But I'm pretty sure he was the one bringing up the point about copcake saying "mafia" so she must be 3p. Its weird he now forgot that moosy can be not town pushing another not town, so its not weird TT can push both moosy and moosy s target.

It's not weird. It was a legit concern in any game except this one.

Thats kinda what I was saying ... He made the difference before, and didn't for that post


This is true, and maybe I forgot for the moment, but I still think it is somewhat suspicious. Tictock also just said that moosy has had shit tier reads, but apparently he was more than willing than join on the wagon on gobble..

Like how much do you trust your own reads? If you think moosy is mafia why would you not want to push on him? Would you not be instinctively apprehensive of the pushes he suggests (even in this setup)? Especially if you call his overall play shitty?

Mm a few things, and you will tell me if that changed your mind:
- that's gobble we re talking about :p nobody can be "wrong" on him because he didn't produce enough content for us to evaluate. So TT can think moosy have shit read, but that doesn't apply to gobble
- TT said before gobble was one of his scumread
- I think I was the one first proposing the gobble switch, not moosy. I might be wrong but I don't think so


I have a history of catching mafia at EoD and getting talked out of it. But your points are fair enough. I was unaware (or forgot) that both you and TT had been scumreading gobble. There was a good reason I was reading TT town before anyway.
Minimal effort.
Superbia
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands8889 Posts
October 15 2015 11:32 GMT
#808
Xatalos would definitely be a good cop check (something feels off, like he's too formal- no emotion), but my read on him at this point is not good enough yet for me to call out a CPR on him, Koshi.
Minimal effort.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 15 2015 11:36 GMT
#809
He should die. And he should die fast. CPR, mafia, 3p. Shoot Xatalos.
He is a threat.
I had a good night of sleep.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
October 15 2015 11:40 GMT
#810
On October 15 2015 07:29 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2015 07:20 deconduo wrote:
On October 15 2015 07:14 Superbia wrote:
I would like an answer to this question from everyone btw. Just real quick:

Is copcake scum?
Is moosy scum?
Why are you voting [copcake/moosy] over [moosy/copcake]?
What's your top 3 town?


At this point I believe there is no way both copcake and moosy are town. If they are, I don't want to play mafia for the next 20 years.


1) Yes
2) Yes
3) Moosy is groupie, so is essentially a wasted lynch. Better to lynch copcake.
4) Hmm, nothing much has changed on the town side since my first vote. Rels, Koshi ,superbia stay in the top 3 for now.

You are anti town.


On October 15 2015 07:34 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2015 07:34 deconduo wrote:
On October 15 2015 07:29 Koshi wrote:
On October 15 2015 07:20 deconduo wrote:
On October 15 2015 07:14 Superbia wrote:
I would like an answer to this question from everyone btw. Just real quick:

Is copcake scum?
Is moosy scum?
Why are you voting [copcake/moosy] over [moosy/copcake]?
What's your top 3 town?


At this point I believe there is no way both copcake and moosy are town. If they are, I don't want to play mafia for the next 20 years.


1) Yes
2) Yes
3) Moosy is groupie, so is essentially a wasted lynch. Better to lynch copcake.
4) Hmm, nothing much has changed on the town side since my first vote. Rels, Koshi ,superbia stay in the top 3 for now.

You are anti town.


Why? There is no good reason for us to want to lynch groupie at all this game.

It's ok. I know you are mafia. It's fine.


On October 15 2015 09:06 Koshi wrote:
Moosy
deconduo
Xatalos


Mafia 3p cpr,

please kill above targets.


Koshi is scum for this btw.

- Lynching groupie doesn't remove them from the game, it just stops them from posting in the thread
- Therefore lynching groupie is the same as a no-lynch
- Therefore Koshi is pushing the fact that a no-lynch is pro-town
- Therefore Koshi is scum.
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
October 15 2015 11:48 GMT
#811
On October 15 2015 20:40 deconduo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2015 07:29 Koshi wrote:
On October 15 2015 07:20 deconduo wrote:
On October 15 2015 07:14 Superbia wrote:
I would like an answer to this question from everyone btw. Just real quick:

Is copcake scum?
Is moosy scum?
Why are you voting [copcake/moosy] over [moosy/copcake]?
What's your top 3 town?


At this point I believe there is no way both copcake and moosy are town. If they are, I don't want to play mafia for the next 20 years.


1) Yes
2) Yes
3) Moosy is groupie, so is essentially a wasted lynch. Better to lynch copcake.
4) Hmm, nothing much has changed on the town side since my first vote. Rels, Koshi ,superbia stay in the top 3 for now.

You are anti town.


Show nested quote +
On October 15 2015 07:34 Koshi wrote:
On October 15 2015 07:34 deconduo wrote:
On October 15 2015 07:29 Koshi wrote:
On October 15 2015 07:20 deconduo wrote:
On October 15 2015 07:14 Superbia wrote:
I would like an answer to this question from everyone btw. Just real quick:

Is copcake scum?
Is moosy scum?
Why are you voting [copcake/moosy] over [moosy/copcake]?
What's your top 3 town?


At this point I believe there is no way both copcake and moosy are town. If they are, I don't want to play mafia for the next 20 years.


1) Yes
2) Yes
3) Moosy is groupie, so is essentially a wasted lynch. Better to lynch copcake.
4) Hmm, nothing much has changed on the town side since my first vote. Rels, Koshi ,superbia stay in the top 3 for now.

You are anti town.


Why? There is no good reason for us to want to lynch groupie at all this game.

It's ok. I know you are mafia. It's fine.


Show nested quote +
On October 15 2015 09:06 Koshi wrote:
Moosy
deconduo
Xatalos


Mafia 3p cpr,

please kill above targets.


Koshi is scum for this btw.

- Lynching groupie doesn't remove them from the game, it just stops them from posting in the thread
- Therefore lynching groupie is the same as a no-lynch
- Therefore Koshi is pushing the fact that a no-lynch is pro-town
- Therefore Koshi is scum.

...idk if you're serious or not tbh.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
October 15 2015 11:49 GMT
#812
Also, all this advising blue is super dumb. Let blue be blue, we screw things up otherwise.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
October 15 2015 11:58 GMT
#813
On October 15 2015 20:36 Koshi wrote:
He should die. And he should die fast. CPR, mafia, 3p. Shoot Xatalos.
He is a threat.


Do you think I'm a blue or something? What's with calling me a "threat" rather than anti-town?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
October 15 2015 11:59 GMT
#814
That just felt too weird.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
October 15 2015 12:00 GMT
#815
On October 15 2015 20:40 deconduo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2015 07:29 Koshi wrote:
On October 15 2015 07:20 deconduo wrote:
On October 15 2015 07:14 Superbia wrote:
I would like an answer to this question from everyone btw. Just real quick:

Is copcake scum?
Is moosy scum?
Why are you voting [copcake/moosy] over [moosy/copcake]?
What's your top 3 town?


At this point I believe there is no way both copcake and moosy are town. If they are, I don't want to play mafia for the next 20 years.


1) Yes
2) Yes
3) Moosy is groupie, so is essentially a wasted lynch. Better to lynch copcake.
4) Hmm, nothing much has changed on the town side since my first vote. Rels, Koshi ,superbia stay in the top 3 for now.

You are anti town.


Show nested quote +
On October 15 2015 07:34 Koshi wrote:
On October 15 2015 07:34 deconduo wrote:
On October 15 2015 07:29 Koshi wrote:
On October 15 2015 07:20 deconduo wrote:
On October 15 2015 07:14 Superbia wrote:
I would like an answer to this question from everyone btw. Just real quick:

Is copcake scum?
Is moosy scum?
Why are you voting [copcake/moosy] over [moosy/copcake]?
What's your top 3 town?


At this point I believe there is no way both copcake and moosy are town. If they are, I don't want to play mafia for the next 20 years.


1) Yes
2) Yes
3) Moosy is groupie, so is essentially a wasted lynch. Better to lynch copcake.
4) Hmm, nothing much has changed on the town side since my first vote. Rels, Koshi ,superbia stay in the top 3 for now.

You are anti town.


Why? There is no good reason for us to want to lynch groupie at all this game.

It's ok. I know you are mafia. It's fine.


Show nested quote +
On October 15 2015 09:06 Koshi wrote:
Moosy
deconduo
Xatalos


Mafia 3p cpr,

please kill above targets.


Koshi is scum for this btw.

- Lynching groupie doesn't remove them from the game, it just stops them from posting in the thread
- Therefore lynching groupie is the same as a no-lynch
- Therefore Koshi is pushing the fact that a no-lynch is pro-town
- Therefore Koshi is scum.


Are you saying you're the groupie >.> wat
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Sylencia
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1057 Posts
October 15 2015 12:05 GMT
#816
Koshi why are you being so childish over an argument with Xat? Xat might've had some bad reasoning for why Moosy acted like he did but he's not necessarily scummy for doing so. I haven't found anything that points to why he's a "threat" and the only legitimate point you've made against him is this:

On October 13 2015 20:17 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2015 20:06 Xatalos wrote:
On October 13 2015 20:00 Koshi wrote:
Seriously Xatalos. The explanation is standing in the damn vote. Moosy did completely nothing. He could be town doing completely nothing. Or he could be mafia doing completely nothing.

Town sometimes adds some silly plan in their first post, or try to do something. Mafia doesn't have do to shit so sometimes they forget they actually need to pretend to be town in the start.

Moosy didn't do shit. Hence. He could be mafia. Still didn't do shit when I poked him to do shit. Passive as fuck. Defensive. ezgame.

I am reading this forum on TL Dota so I have no filters. But I am probably 100% right.


I got the opposite picture? He didn't really do anything, but he seemed pretty relaxed despite your attack (not defensive / worried). And I think Mafia very rarely just "forget they need to pretend to look town". Rather, it's much more likely that Mafia do something at least resembling an okayish starter while townies often just explode.

Everything you wrote here has nothing to do with the current situation.
You even fucking contradict your read on Moosy and your expectation what a townie would do.


But defense on Moosy isn't going to tell us anything unless Moosy flips. The rest of your posts beyond that are just calling for his head...

Gonna be honest though I haven't read Xatalos's filter yet
Sylencia
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1057 Posts
October 15 2015 12:07 GMT
#817
I probably should've picked up on the use of "threat" over "anti-town" but my mind kind of just brushed it to the side for some reason.. I blame 30 degree nights
Sylencia
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1057 Posts
October 15 2015 12:09 GMT
#818
On October 15 2015 21:00 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2015 20:40 deconduo wrote:
On October 15 2015 07:29 Koshi wrote:
On October 15 2015 07:20 deconduo wrote:
On October 15 2015 07:14 Superbia wrote:
I would like an answer to this question from everyone btw. Just real quick:

Is copcake scum?
Is moosy scum?
Why are you voting [copcake/moosy] over [moosy/copcake]?
What's your top 3 town?


At this point I believe there is no way both copcake and moosy are town. If they are, I don't want to play mafia for the next 20 years.


1) Yes
2) Yes
3) Moosy is groupie, so is essentially a wasted lynch. Better to lynch copcake.
4) Hmm, nothing much has changed on the town side since my first vote. Rels, Koshi ,superbia stay in the top 3 for now.

You are anti town.


On October 15 2015 07:34 Koshi wrote:
On October 15 2015 07:34 deconduo wrote:
On October 15 2015 07:29 Koshi wrote:
On October 15 2015 07:20 deconduo wrote:
On October 15 2015 07:14 Superbia wrote:
I would like an answer to this question from everyone btw. Just real quick:

Is copcake scum?
Is moosy scum?
Why are you voting [copcake/moosy] over [moosy/copcake]?
What's your top 3 town?


At this point I believe there is no way both copcake and moosy are town. If they are, I don't want to play mafia for the next 20 years.


1) Yes
2) Yes
3) Moosy is groupie, so is essentially a wasted lynch. Better to lynch copcake.
4) Hmm, nothing much has changed on the town side since my first vote. Rels, Koshi ,superbia stay in the top 3 for now.

You are anti town.


Why? There is no good reason for us to want to lynch groupie at all this game.

It's ok. I know you are mafia. It's fine.


On October 15 2015 09:06 Koshi wrote:
Moosy
deconduo
Xatalos


Mafia 3p cpr,

please kill above targets.


Koshi is scum for this btw.

- Lynching groupie doesn't remove them from the game, it just stops them from posting in the thread
- Therefore lynching groupie is the same as a no-lynch
- Therefore Koshi is pushing the fact that a no-lynch is pro-town
- Therefore Koshi is scum.


Are you saying you're the groupie >.> wat


He saying KOshi highlighted decon's point about not wanting to lynch Moosy the groupie, and called him scum while pushing for a Moosy lynch even though decon's point is perfectly valid.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
October 15 2015 12:36 GMT
#819
On October 15 2015 21:00 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2015 20:40 deconduo wrote:
On October 15 2015 07:29 Koshi wrote:
On October 15 2015 07:20 deconduo wrote:
On October 15 2015 07:14 Superbia wrote:
I would like an answer to this question from everyone btw. Just real quick:

Is copcake scum?
Is moosy scum?
Why are you voting [copcake/moosy] over [moosy/copcake]?
What's your top 3 town?


At this point I believe there is no way both copcake and moosy are town. If they are, I don't want to play mafia for the next 20 years.


1) Yes
2) Yes
3) Moosy is groupie, so is essentially a wasted lynch. Better to lynch copcake.
4) Hmm, nothing much has changed on the town side since my first vote. Rels, Koshi ,superbia stay in the top 3 for now.

You are anti town.


On October 15 2015 07:34 Koshi wrote:
On October 15 2015 07:34 deconduo wrote:
On October 15 2015 07:29 Koshi wrote:
On October 15 2015 07:20 deconduo wrote:
On October 15 2015 07:14 Superbia wrote:
I would like an answer to this question from everyone btw. Just real quick:

Is copcake scum?
Is moosy scum?
Why are you voting [copcake/moosy] over [moosy/copcake]?
What's your top 3 town?


At this point I believe there is no way both copcake and moosy are town. If they are, I don't want to play mafia for the next 20 years.


1) Yes
2) Yes
3) Moosy is groupie, so is essentially a wasted lynch. Better to lynch copcake.
4) Hmm, nothing much has changed on the town side since my first vote. Rels, Koshi ,superbia stay in the top 3 for now.

You are anti town.


Why? There is no good reason for us to want to lynch groupie at all this game.

It's ok. I know you are mafia. It's fine.


On October 15 2015 09:06 Koshi wrote:
Moosy
deconduo
Xatalos


Mafia 3p cpr,

please kill above targets.


Koshi is scum for this btw.

- Lynching groupie doesn't remove them from the game, it just stops them from posting in the thread
- Therefore lynching groupie is the same as a no-lynch
- Therefore Koshi is pushing the fact that a no-lynch is pro-town
- Therefore Koshi is scum.


Are you saying you're the groupie >.> wat


No. I said that lynching the groupie is anti-town. Koshi called me scum for saying that.

On October 15 2015 21:09 Sylencia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2015 21:00 Xatalos wrote:
On October 15 2015 20:40 deconduo wrote:
On October 15 2015 07:29 Koshi wrote:
On October 15 2015 07:20 deconduo wrote:
On October 15 2015 07:14 Superbia wrote:
I would like an answer to this question from everyone btw. Just real quick:

Is copcake scum?
Is moosy scum?
Why are you voting [copcake/moosy] over [moosy/copcake]?
What's your top 3 town?


At this point I believe there is no way both copcake and moosy are town. If they are, I don't want to play mafia for the next 20 years.


1) Yes
2) Yes
3) Moosy is groupie, so is essentially a wasted lynch. Better to lynch copcake.
4) Hmm, nothing much has changed on the town side since my first vote. Rels, Koshi ,superbia stay in the top 3 for now.

You are anti town.


On October 15 2015 07:34 Koshi wrote:
On October 15 2015 07:34 deconduo wrote:
On October 15 2015 07:29 Koshi wrote:
On October 15 2015 07:20 deconduo wrote:
On October 15 2015 07:14 Superbia wrote:
I would like an answer to this question from everyone btw. Just real quick:

Is copcake scum?
Is moosy scum?
Why are you voting [copcake/moosy] over [moosy/copcake]?
What's your top 3 town?


At this point I believe there is no way both copcake and moosy are town. If they are, I don't want to play mafia for the next 20 years.


1) Yes
2) Yes
3) Moosy is groupie, so is essentially a wasted lynch. Better to lynch copcake.
4) Hmm, nothing much has changed on the town side since my first vote. Rels, Koshi ,superbia stay in the top 3 for now.

You are anti town.


Why? There is no good reason for us to want to lynch groupie at all this game.

It's ok. I know you are mafia. It's fine.


On October 15 2015 09:06 Koshi wrote:
Moosy
deconduo
Xatalos


Mafia 3p cpr,

please kill above targets.


Koshi is scum for this btw.

- Lynching groupie doesn't remove them from the game, it just stops them from posting in the thread
- Therefore lynching groupie is the same as a no-lynch
- Therefore Koshi is pushing the fact that a no-lynch is pro-town
- Therefore Koshi is scum.


Are you saying you're the groupie >.> wat


He saying KOshi highlighted decon's point about not wanting to lynch Moosy the groupie, and called him scum while pushing for a Moosy lynch even though decon's point is perfectly valid.


This.

And he also refused to answer any of my questions about his logic.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 15 2015 12:50 GMT
#820
Xat is a threat to the anti town people. I am talking to the faction Xat isn't in.

Decunduo is mafia.

Moosy might be town, not that he did anyhting a town should do but he is starting to use his head. Maybe afraid of bullet. Anyway. Decunduo and Xatalos biggest targets for assassination.

Decunduo and Xatalos


I would addess the points deconduo brought up against me but they are so retarded I just want to see who follows it.
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