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Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
September 30 2015 14:47 GMT
#1604
On September 30 2015 23:44 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2015 23:42 Rels wrote:
On September 30 2015 23:40 rsoultin wrote:
On September 30 2015 23:39 Rels wrote:
On September 30 2015 23:37 rsoultin wrote:
On September 30 2015 23:36 Rels wrote:
because I realized you should have at least talked about marv's Moosy push when you re evaluated him, as it was the biggest thing he's done at that point


why?

because it was the biggest thing he's done at that point ???


yeah but why do i have to talk about this specifically? if it's not notable why would i note it? lol ><

The only reason I find that weird is that you bothered to make "sexy Marv" post partly referring to it


okay let me filter dive myself cause i know i explained the sexy marv post already -_-

i did say it was specifically in reference to his response to rayn and also the vote though. i know that i said this cause that's why i said sexy marv and y'all asked lol ><

yeah you said it was in reference of the vote (and rayn stuff) and not the content
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
September 30 2015 14:48 GMT
#1605
OK rsoultin I will assume you're town
I don't think GB or rayn are mafia. rayn because I found him being mafia super easily in personality mafia, and GB 'cause he had the same reads about Trfel than me at the start of the game. Why are they mafia ?
I think it's time for coolTLname and Trfel to come answer stuff. And it's time for scott to start doing stuff
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
September 30 2015 14:56 GMT
#1614
On September 30 2015 23:53 marvellosity wrote:
the post GB made about being able to push me if we lynched rsoultin and she flipped town was very, very, very weird.

++
I have 20 minutes to read his filter and give my thoughts, after that I'm leaving work
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
September 30 2015 14:57 GMT
#1615
On September 30 2015 23:53 scott31337 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2015 21:13 rsoultin wrote:
no one is looking at that, because the simple truth of the matter is there is no good scum motivation for what i did

a mislynch is a mislynch; my caring if it was marv or someone else is laughable if i were scum

caring = town

reevaluating and reversing reads suddenly when there are plenty of mislynch targets = town


When I get to work I'll repost the other things ive noted, but thIs set off bells.

So you KNOW I'm a mislynch I see. Rels too? Got it.

pretty cool you appear when the fight is over (=
will gladfully read your reads when you post them
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
September 30 2015 15:03 GMT
#1620
OK that's what I thought. GB's origin for Trfel's read is not his opening posts but this:
On September 29 2015 07:39 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2015 07:37 Trfel wrote:
On September 29 2015 07:33 sicklucker wrote:
On September 29 2015 07:32 Trfel wrote:
On September 29 2015 07:30 sicklucker wrote:
My bad town read is trfel because hes making a god awful vote 10 minutes into day 1 that alone will never last 48 hours in 1000 years
And why won't it last?


because i dont even understand it and the day is only 1% over. you will find something else I never understood why people vote 1 minute into a game and then change it 19 times
Do you have a read on rsoultin?

On September 29 2015 07:35 GlowingBear wrote:
On September 29 2015 07:33 Trfel wrote:
Damdred, why wasn't being town one of the requirements for being your buddy?


What kind of answer were you expecting when you asked this?
No clue, but I was hoping that it would be useful.


Ok so what do you make out of his answer?

So that's not scummy (related to rsoultin's "GB coached Trfel he should know posts like that are bait")
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
September 30 2015 15:05 GMT
#1622
On October 01 2015 00:03 Rels wrote:
OK that's what I thought. GB's origin for Trfel's read is not his opening posts but this:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2015 07:39 GlowingBear wrote:
On September 29 2015 07:37 Trfel wrote:
On September 29 2015 07:33 sicklucker wrote:
On September 29 2015 07:32 Trfel wrote:
On September 29 2015 07:30 sicklucker wrote:
My bad town read is trfel because hes making a god awful vote 10 minutes into day 1 that alone will never last 48 hours in 1000 years
And why won't it last?


because i dont even understand it and the day is only 1% over. you will find something else I never understood why people vote 1 minute into a game and then change it 19 times
Do you have a read on rsoultin?

On September 29 2015 07:35 GlowingBear wrote:
On September 29 2015 07:33 Trfel wrote:
Damdred, why wasn't being town one of the requirements for being your buddy?


What kind of answer were you expecting when you asked this?
No clue, but I was hoping that it would be useful.


Ok so what do you make out of his answer?

So that's not scummy (related to rsoultin's "GB coached Trfel he should know posts like that are bait")


OK actually:
On September 29 2015 07:59 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2015 07:49 Damdred wrote:
GB why are you so focused on truffle


I find his try hardiness weird
I don't understand posting his two opening sayinf he won't be playing because he will be practicing the keyboard, but immediately starts playing. Also, why posting it AFTER game start and not before?

These are just weak things, but him asking a question without having a clear objective feels scummy to me. The question he directed to you is typically of someone who saw something scummy and is after some clarification. Instead, he makes nothing out of your answer which indicates he asked just to as, which could simply be scum trying to look like scum hunting

So it IS scummy, if rsoultin's "GB should know Trfel does bait post, he teached him" is true
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
September 30 2015 15:11 GMT
#1628
On September 29 2015 19:16 GlowingBear wrote:
Damdy you only had marv going against you about a thing you call a misphrase. I am going against you because you haven't clarified the bait thing yet.

This over emotional reaction reeks Mafia from you. If you're town then you should really consider stop playing because there is nothing more natural in this game than being called Mafia.

@GB: I've heard multiple times that emo Damdred = town, robot Damdred = mafia. Where is your Damdred meta coming from ?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
September 30 2015 15:20 GMT
#1643
finished reading GB's filter and I'm not convinced at all he's mafia

3 scummy points:
1. this:
On September 29 2015 07:59 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2015 07:49 Damdred wrote:
GB why are you so focused on truffle


I find his try hardiness weird
I don't understand posting his two opening sayinf he won't be playing because he will be practicing the keyboard, but immediately starts playing. Also, why posting it AFTER game start and not before?

These are just weak things, but him asking a question without having a clear objective feels scummy to me. The question he directed to you is typically of someone who saw something scummy and is after some clarification. Instead, he makes nothing out of your answer which indicates he asked just to as, which could simply be scum trying to look like scum hunting

scummy attack on Trfel based on his first posts when he should know they are baits.
It is NOT the main reason he is scumreading Trfel though, and his main reason makes sense:
On September 29 2015 17:54 GlowingBear wrote:
- My problem with truffle is:

He came to the game really try hard - but his quearions are off. They usually don't have follow ups and I've caught him asking questions just to ask. For example, he asked a question to Damdred "why didn't you put 'town' as a requisition to be your friend?". Damdred answer, truffle never followed up. When I asked what truffle was expecting with that question he said he had no idea. When I asked what he got, he said nothing. Well, why did he ask the question then? I mean, I will usually ask things to further investigate someone's alignment and the answer provided will make me more certain of a read or uncertain. It doesn't seems that truffle was really caring to clarify something or to unveil Damdred's alignment. It just sounded like he wanted to look he was trying to produce content, which looks scummy


2. him saying "Damdred over reacting == mafia", when the meta read I've heard multiple times is exactly the inverse.

3. the "if rsoultin flips town I'll push marv" post:
On September 30 2015 20:17 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2015 20:15 rsoultin wrote:
On September 30 2015 20:13 GlowingBear wrote:
On September 30 2015 20:00 rsoultin wrote:
so to the townies who for some reason think that me going hey, i'm not sure that marv is actually town and trying to get people to look at and talk about him, is likely to come from a scum rsoul

whatcha gonna do when i flip town? xP


I promise I will go after him.


@.@

if he's town that would be really stupid


He said he is 100% sure on you and he is Marv; also, I don't like your read progression on him but I agree with your suspicions on him; also, he is driving the lunch away from truffle; also, he is not willing to discuss anyone else, he simply wants you to be Mafia.

So yeah. I have plenty of reasons to vote Marv if you flip green


Only the third point is really scummy I feel, and he cannot explain it. I would like him to explain to first two.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
September 30 2015 15:25 GMT
#1651
On October 01 2015 00:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
marv GB is most likely not mafia. You would be surprised how dumb he can be sometimes.

what dumb things are you talking about this game, that he would do as town but not as mafia ?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
September 30 2015 15:28 GMT
#1659
On October 01 2015 00:15 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2015 00:11 Rels wrote:
On September 29 2015 19:16 GlowingBear wrote:
Damdy you only had marv going against you about a thing you call a misphrase. I am going against you because you haven't clarified the bait thing yet.

This over emotional reaction reeks Mafia from you. If you're town then you should really consider stop playing because there is nothing more natural in this game than being called Mafia.

@GB: I've heard multiple times that emo Damdred = town, robot Damdred = mafia. Where is your Damdred meta coming from ?


Hi

I've played with Damdred a lot of times and it's not really meta. It's just I have seen Mafia damdred dismissing pushes on him.

The emotional damded I have seen is the "aw, I don't like this game" instead of "fuck you fuck you all"

Damdred is (was) one of the kindest people I have played with. I don't seem him doing this genuinely

that goes against everything I've heard. I think almost all of everything I've heard came from rsoultin, but she apparently can read him 100% so it's pretty good
that also goes against his play last game, where I was mafia with him. He was mislynched but was never angry, saying "fuck you", etc.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
September 30 2015 15:31 GMT
#1667
On October 01 2015 00:30 rsoultin wrote:
ye he's emotionally inept as scum

like super robotic

town damdy pouts and rages and grrs and more importantly gb tunneled him for this very reason in a prior game and raged at him after for "behaving badly" so he 100% knows that damdy can do all of this as town

that is damning. What game was that ?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
September 30 2015 15:35 GMT
#1675
alright leaving work super soon. Voting coolTLname for this:
On September 30 2015 05:52 Rels wrote:
still this more or less:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2015 21:21 Rels wrote:
This first post by coolTLname is super scummy.
It is his first post, and he talks about a lot of differents subjects. A first post with different subjects is scum indicative as mafia usually has a hard time entering the thread.
Plus, I don't know how GB's posts being mechanical and rayn's posts being mechanical are mixed up.
Plus, he agrees on a Moosy's posts that I don't understand.
Plus, he next post is scummy too:
On September 29 2015 16:47 coolTLname wrote:
So i noticed mafia can hold their KP, this makes claiming Roleblock and framing someone possible, as well as fake vet claims. Anyway i propose anyone who claims a blue role to be lynched automatically, if there is no kill , better to leave it in the dark?

Can medics heal themselves?

Two useless questions.
After that he posted one more time and gtfo.

without the Moosy part
Plus he has refused to explain his weird GF read on you, so I cannot know if he has a reasonning behind it
Plus he's clearly trolling, I don't know why a town under suspicion would act like that. But Dandel did exactly that last game, so that makes me wary of lynching him


We didn't talk about him a lot recently, but I haven't forgot him. I want to see rsoultin's case on GB though, the thing about Damdred's meta being wrong on purpose.
See you!

##Unvote
##Vote coolTLname
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
September 30 2015 15:37 GMT
#1679
On October 01 2015 00:36 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Rels, please don't be terrible.

??
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
September 30 2015 20:58 GMT
#2093
back. Catching up
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
September 30 2015 21:09 GMT
#2118
On October 01 2015 01:42 Trfel wrote:
Rsoultin, role PMs aside, why can't I be mafia with you?

WTF is that question
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
September 30 2015 21:20 GMT
#2150
On October 01 2015 02:25 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2015 02:21 rsoultin wrote:
On October 01 2015 02:16 Trfel wrote:
On October 01 2015 02:11 rsoultin wrote:
hey truffle my question wasn't for kicks and giggles

what's the point of even asking me whether or not we could be scum together? -_- we'd both know that and rayn used it to completely get me off topic cause i have no self-control @.@ and need to find some
I already answered this....

I still do not understand why we can't be mafia together at all. If you are saying that we can't be mafia together, and there is no reason for this claim, then I think that you are mafia.

In case you missed my previous post, I don't think that your explanation makes sense because your townread on me this game and last game (when we were both town) is about the same, and you reversed it to a scumread there. Your townread on me here isn't a completely hard townread like you claim it is, and you have room to change it. Plus you could not bus me here unless you wanted to do so before the wagon on you started, which wouldn't be a good play.


okay?

you just said that you thought i couldn't reverse my read given my townread earlier, and now you're claiming i'm not hard townreading you?

like i really don't get this, truffle. i'm not scum so by definition we can't be bussing each other.

by definition.

you are either scum and know that i'm not scum

or you are town and know that we're not both scum

like literally, to you, we can never be bussing each other either way, and i don't see why you're pursuing this if you're town? there is 100% reason that we're not mafia together and that's that i'm not mafia and either way you know we're not mafia together

like wtf ><
Oh, sorry, I see what you're saying.

You can't reverse your read on me here after you get votes on you. That would result in you being lynched. It would be extremely opportunistic.

If this wagon had never happened, then you could have reversed your read on me.

You said that Rels is mafia because he switched his vote from me (his scumread) to you, who can't be mafia with me (from Rels' perspective). That is why this is important.

Oh that explains the question
Trfel, you promised me an explanation of your rsoultin's read, so please do it N1. I will be away most of the day so I'm trusting that you don't forget. I made a big post with the timeline I didn't understand maybe 12 hours ago
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
September 30 2015 21:41 GMT
#2229
On October 01 2015 06:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2015 06:17 LightningStrike wrote:
On October 01 2015 06:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 01 2015 06:14 LightningStrike wrote:
On October 01 2015 06:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 01 2015 06:12 LightningStrike wrote:
When I was skimming I saw people throwing around Tina, coolTLname and scott as lynch targets honestly so that how I ended up with that list of that I saw were the lynch targets. Also to answer your question Shining I think he scum for his odd play not matching up to what some people said and didn't have good content either.

mmm but you never see anyone saying anything about GB?
seems legit.

GB but it wasn't as prevalent as the main 3.

there is about 5 pages of discussion on GB being mafia.
You missed all that while "you were skimming"?

Did I skim it to quickly. Fuck me just lynch me. LYNCH ME.

i am trying to do that so you just better claim.

WTF why are you role hunting ??
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
September 30 2015 21:48 GMT
#2253
caught up. Why coolTLname is 95% town ?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
September 30 2015 21:53 GMT
#2280
On October 01 2015 06:52 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2015 06:48 Rels wrote:
caught up. Why coolTLname is 95% town ?

don't see why he's scummy and not new

very easily fell into the default lynch position

yeah it's true that outside off his play everybody is OK lynching him. Why would mafia bus D1
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
September 30 2015 21:55 GMT
#2291
WTF
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