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Trfel
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On October 01 2015 23:45 LightningStrike wrote: Ok, why do you want to lynch rsoultin then?Alright so I did catch up throughly. We could lynch coolTLname or Tina next Day Phase I was just to blinded by my love for her. | ||
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Trfel
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On October 01 2015 23:54 marvellosity wrote: There was a specific part of your play where you said "I never do this as mafia". I'm saying that there is absolutely no reason why you couldn't, it would be easy to do.post 1 suggests that my entire play could come from mafia post 2 Trfel backtracks and says it's referring to a tiny portion at the start? it really makes no sense at all to me As for the rest of your play, you are capable of a high filter length as mafia. I see no reason why you couldn't produce an extremely high filter length in a really spammy game, if you really wanted to. If you're referring to thread involvement, I don't see you being involved to the point where you can't be mafia. | ||
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Trfel
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On October 02 2015 00:30 marvellosity wrote: I don't think you want to know what I have to say about your play other than filter length.....the fact you're characterising my play by filter length is pretty scummy tbh. You do realize that you are my top townread, right? | ||
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Trfel
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On October 02 2015 06:02 The Shining wrote: But he is at risk of being night killed!Wait what. Yeah lets talk when you get home, too. You can start by explaining why you think you're at risk of being NKd when we have a few strong townread and a living blue claim. That's just weird.  | ||
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Trfel
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On October 02 2015 06:15 raynpelikoneet wrote: You mean the part where I accidentally fell asleep and missed EOD? Someone is probably going to try to push Trfel but his approach to the game was so so so fucking townie at the EoD he is not mafia. Lynch rsoultin to confirm Trfel's alignment if you are unsure.  | ||
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Trfel
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On September 29 2015 17:23 Rels wrote: Also this post, it would make much more sense to ask GlowingBear first, and then draw any conclusions after, if necessary. Assuming that the goal is to find scum, Rels is hoping to catch GlowingBear. So the right way to do it is to figure out what GlowingBear's intent was and then find out if it is scummy or not, and the wrong way to do it is to say "Hey, GlowingBear, were you doing A or B? FYI if you say A, then I think that's scummy." Because then mafia!GlowingBear can just say B and then you get nowhere.GB making joke posts is weird 'cause his first post was serious. Let me check that. OK maybe I thought this post was serious when it wasn't. @GB was your first post serious ? I guess I should probably look at bigger-picture stuff, that would be much more effective. I'll try to do that tonight if I can, otherwise tomorrow. | ||
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Trfel
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On September 29 2015 18:36 Rels wrote: This just doesn't feel like a town post.....seriously though, mafia rayn was super obvious in the game I played with him. He's said he had a bad game 'cause no time, but he was tunneling geript as scum, then sheep geript's read on me when it was convenient for me. Maybe he will fool me one day, but for now I'm pretty sure I can read rayn (= "Hey, there's this player who everyone says is really good at mafia. I caught him once when he was playing badly, but I'm not going to be scared of him at all until he fools me. He must be a really easy read, even though everyone says otherwise." Rels strikes me as a more practical player than someone who I would expect to make this post. Maybe I'm just attributing a different playstyle/thought process to Rels than what he actually uses as town, though.... I guess I'll restart later and be more open-minded. | ||
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Trfel
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Especially since I told you the best way to read me, and it's probably the most applicable in this game over any other in the past six months. And I really don't like you constantly avoiding me on the GlowingBear issue, even now. I still have no idea how GlowingBear's posts can possibly be seen the way you described them? Can you help me out, at least a little? | ||
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Trfel
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Part of me just wants to never lynch him because he has a cool TL name. Part of me just wants to never lynch him because marvellosity's reason to townread him on Day 1 made sense. And he feels new, not scummy. I get that he's lied, but I don't see any motivation for him to do this as mafia. He simply misread/misunderstood something. There is no reason at all why he is more likely to do this as mafia than as town. If I'm wrong, please correct me, but I don't think so? Part of me will be embarrassed for the rest of my life if he's mafia and I don't vote for him.......................... Bleh. I'll read through Rels and sicklucker first. | ||
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Trfel
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On October 02 2015 10:54 raynpelikoneet wrote: No, I don't like that, but unfortunately I think that town players are sometimes stupid enough to play like that. I've seen it way too many times.post like this make you look super weird tbh.... like do you just ignore the fact i tried to make him contribute onto said things further? and he responds basically with threatening my life or some fucking thing like that? I wasn't referring to the post-lie argument, I was referring to the argument over the vote count itself and the nature of whether coolTLname's initial claim had mafia motivation. | ||
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Lynch isn't for a while yet. If you are willing to stay up for a while and talk to me, I'll read filters and have things to talk about. Otherwise I'll probably not | ||
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Trfel
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CoolTLname, angering raynpelikoneet is not a good strategy. If he is mafia, there is no point arguing with him, since he's mafia and he doesn't believe what he's saying; he knows that you are right. All you're doing is filling the thread with useless words. Spend your time talking to other people instead. If he is town, then it's even worse because you're making two (presumably) townies very mad at each other for filling the thread with stuff that is nowhere near catching mafia. There's just no point to do it regardless of raynpelikoneet's alignment. | ||
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Trfel
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Rsoultin, I don't seem to be able to convey anything to you so far today, I'd rather wait until we both get a chance to rest before I try again. I don't have anything new to say at this moment, just rephrasing things I've already said.... MoosyDoosy, of course my post was made with the assumption that coolTLname was town. I actually said that in the post. Congratulations. I would just really appreciate it if raynpelikoneet and coolTLname stop this argument because it is going absolutely nowhere and is a nightmare to read. Whatever points you guys are trying to make have been made a million times over and you aren't going to convince each other. | ||
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Trfel
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On October 02 2015 14:18 rsoultin wrote: I need some clue as to how you could possibly make the read that you made about GlowingBear.i asked you specifically what your question regarding GB was, directly after you asked me about it and you pissed off so why don't you start there? "I reread and changed my mind" is okay, but I still don't understand how you arrived at the initial conclusion in the first place. And I still have no idea whatsoever how sicklucker's posts on J Roc early on justified a townread of him, since they seemed very boring to me and were based on him misinterpreting something. | ||
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On October 03 2015 13:47 Trfel wrote: One hour and 22 minutes later, he starts to catch up on the thread XDOkay, I think it maybe about time I start trying to think about who to lynch. | ||
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Trfel
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How long are you staying up for? It'll probably take me a while until I have anything to talk about | ||
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Trfel
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I haven't entirely caught up with the thread yet, but here's a rough summary of where I'm at... Not lynching rsoultin today for three reasons. One, she's probably town, two, her filter is too long for me to look at, and three, I feel really bad for asking the same question a billion times, looking at her answer and deciding to double check it later, and then forgetting about it and asking again. No clue about MoosyDoosy, need to investigate. Not lynching GlowingBear because I think he's obviously town due to thread involvement and activity. I should re-evaluate him later, but not for this lynch, I think. Note that if rsoultin is mafia, GlowingBear could look much worse. Not lynching raynpelikoneet today because I can't, even if I thought he were mafia. I don't think I want to lynch LightningStrike, but I should look through his filter. Probably not lynching Rels, but I should look through his filter. Sicklucker's posts drive me insane, so I'll do my best to avoid reading them. I'm not making a read on Damdred. No clue at all about The Shining, apparently his filter is 6 pages, so that should be enough to get a good read. I should probably read that. I don't think I want to lynch coolTLname, I think that all of the "suspicious" and "scummy" things about him are more likely caused by him being new. I also don't see why his play is any more likely to come from mafia than from town. I will definitely read through his filter, but that is my impression from reading the thread. If you have any reads that differ significantly than mine, please share. | ||
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