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Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
September 29 2015 21:13 GMT
#986
I think I like scott's reads
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
September 29 2015 21:15 GMT
#987
OK going to sleep. Will see what I think about cool being a smurf tomorrow
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
September 29 2015 21:16 GMT
#989
like he had all this story about playing SC2 mafia for along time
he joined Newbie XV, then /out to join this game
it doesn't make sense
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
September 30 2015 07:43 GMT
#1247
On September 30 2015 09:57 The Shining wrote:
Likely town Damdred and Marv. That looked like a classic town v town shitflingfest. Every single game I've ever played where an argument like that happens, both players end up being town so I'll stuck to my guns on that. RSo looks pretty town, I can echo and confirm what I know of Damdred's town v scum meta with this post. It's pretty spot on.

Show nested quote +
On September 29 2015 20:21 rsoultin wrote:
On September 29 2015 20:15 GlowingBear wrote:
On September 29 2015 20:10 rsoultin wrote:
On September 29 2015 20:09 GlowingBear wrote:
I will be voting truffle, I will be back once I can see the thread behind the egos


talk to me ^^ i'm in sweet not insulting everyone cause we're having enough of that already rsoul mode lol

do you have any scumreads other than truffle? cause i still think he's town, too


I still have both Damdred and Truffle. Damdred's opening felt townie to me but the follow ups are very shady. I've pointed out several times how his bait thing doesn't fit it but he keeps ignoring it, at least from what I've skimmed. He is too inclined to dismiss pushes and being very mad at little things. I hardly believe this comes from town Damdred. There was only one game that he was town that he reacted his way, and that one was when he was having IRL stuff.

I am also inclined to lunch Sicklucker, I see him commenting everything but doing nothing with what he sees.

I think Rels is town, I remember reading a post where Moosy was looking townie.

Oh and that smurf is also very shady, could lynch.


my damdy is an emotional town player and a robotic scum player has 100% never been proven wrong ever

i'm the one who told you in that game you're referring to that he was town based off one page of the game

if you're townreading me, trust me. he's town. and honestly even if you're not, i'd probably townread him if i were scum as i did last time anyway cause i'd find that easier lol >< than trying to push damdy when he knows i read him like a book

sl had posts that were very sl-centric which gives him enough townie points to keep him around i think. he thinks the scummiest thing in the game is someone not reading his posts perfectly


GB, Rels are in my "could be town but idk" pile. Although I don't agree with his read on Damdy, I can see where he is coming from and I don't think I've ever seen a game that he hasn't tunneled Damdred D1 as town lol. But it isn't the firebrand GB I've played with before(granted, I was scum that game) so not a strong TR. Rels is asking a few good questions, but I want to filter dive Trfel before I lean either way on his Trfel case. I read a lot of pages today and I don't wanna miss anything.

J Roc/Scott slot is null to me becuz f replacements, and on D1, no less. My least fave day, sigh. I don't like coolTL, I could prob lynch him tbh. I shouldn't judge but the low content, no scumhunting(unless you count him naming a 5 man scumteam as scum hunting), and the fact that he said this(bolded):

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On September 29 2015 17:08 coolTLname wrote:
Uh anyway i've been looking at sicklurker. For some reason i thought he was blue but hes been spewing tons of nonsense, he claims hes "drinking" and he seems sad i guess, but even more reason to post something meaningful .. @_@

marvelous would be mafia if hes good in other games, i guess i should check.


but then fucked off and never said whether he actually checked this means he doesn't care about figuring out marv's alignment.

Also LS is pretty underwhelming. He asks RSo to not be lazy but then doesn't do much with any posts after. More than once, he re-entered the thread with a simple recap of what was happening while he was gone with posts that go nowhere afterwards. And he didn't even know what his own read on Trfel was...lol. This is either super lazy LS scum or horrible LS town but he's going in my suspicious pile for now.

Idk what to think about SL either but I do know as games go on, it becomes blatantly obvious whether he is scum or not. Moosy and Trfel are question marks for me that I won't give a read on until I'm done filter diving them.

OK Shining is probably town. Welcome (=
Only thing I kinda disagree is the LS read, I thought he was super townie from his first posts. It's true he didn't do much since then though.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
September 30 2015 07:44 GMT
#1248
rsoultin you're around ?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
September 30 2015 07:48 GMT
#1249
On September 30 2015 10:26 Damdred wrote:
He's played with SL once... And he actually has a point on ls though he didn't just sheep rayns case either. So he has that going for him

WTF is rayn's case
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
September 30 2015 07:54 GMT
#1250
On September 30 2015 10:38 coolTLname wrote:
oh nvm u quoted it lol .. well yea GB cuz hes bussing town ppl, rels cuz he was late to the thread and ur town imo u read thread and do stuff

LOL
OK regardless of your alignment, since you're a newbie, I will try to show you how this is super bad. p:

1 - does the following post comes from town or mafia ?
On September 29 2015 05:05 Rels wrote:
GL HF guys (= see you tomorrow!
I can sleep quitely knowing there is no IML stuff in this game p:

OK I'm messing with you, it was pregame. I want to show you that your reason for scumreading me is bad 'cause I said pregame I would be sleeping at game start

2 - I started posting more or less at the time you started posting. Why are you scumreading me for something you did yourself ?

3 - Even forgoing all that, why someone being late to the thread is scum indicative ?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
September 30 2015 07:57 GMT
#1251
On September 30 2015 10:47 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Rels, when you come around to the thread. Why didn't you see that what Trfel did was different from this game and the other one?

Man you're not reading, I already showed how it is kind of similar
Trfel in the other game forgot why he was scumreading ruxxar
In this game he forgot why he was scumreading rsoultin:
On September 29 2015 09:39 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2015 09:33 rsoultin wrote:
On September 29 2015 07:12 rsoultin wrote:
On September 29 2015 07:09 GlowingBear wrote:
By the way:

O hai!

I'm town


truffle took your position. next phase


oh is this the post you didn't get, truffle?

all i was saying was that you had already posted the "post to get reactions/discussion started" post, and that gb could move on to something more productive

i don't know why i always assume these things are blindingly obvious lol ><
OH YEAH that was my argument!

Thank you for reminding me!

Never mind, it's still somewhat valid.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
September 30 2015 08:02 GMT
#1252
On September 30 2015 11:16 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2015 17:08 coolTLname wrote:
Uh anyway i've been looking at sicklurker. For some reason i thought he was blue but hes been spewing tons of nonsense, he claims hes "drinking" and he seems sad i guess, but even more reason to post something meaningful .. @_@

marvelous would be mafia if hes good in other games, i guess i should check.



role hunting 101

wow that is a good point
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
September 30 2015 08:06 GMT
#1253
meeting time! will finish catching up when I'm back
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
September 30 2015 10:08 GMT
#1304
mm that rsoultin stuff is damning
going to finish catching up then will fact check your posts
if she really turned around her read on you based on nothing, she's probably mafia running out of targets to scumread
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
September 30 2015 10:13 GMT
#1307
On September 30 2015 11:37 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2015 17:42 Rels wrote:
On September 29 2015 07:28 Trfel wrote:
On September 29 2015 07:25 rsoultin wrote:
btw truffle nope ^^ i only skimmed it cause yawn lol you can keep your shitty vote
Hm, I kind of actually think you are mafia now.....

But I can't decide if I should push or wait.....

@Trfel is this a serious post
if it is I find super weird the fact that most posts before and after this one are funny posts

OK after I finish catching up I'll do a Trfel's filter dive to check if my feeling is right. But I definitely have the feeling there is a contradiction in tone progression in Trfel's posts, something like funny => one serious => funny => one serious => funny
If you think that me alternating between being serious or funny is a sign that I am mafia, then I have no more words for you. To be honest, depending on how that's applied, it's probably the easiest way to read me.

Since apparently I wasn't clear:

I started out by voting rsoultin as a joke. Then I started being a bit suspicious of rsoultin, but not enough that I wanted to actually push it (at least until I reread things). Before I was able to reread things, rsoultin made some posts that were contrary to the assumptions I had made for some of my suspicions of her, and then I realized a few flaws in my suspicions. So I wasn't very suspicious of her any more).

Clear enough?

Yeah I agree the funny / serious change is not scum indicative, I've dropped it in my compilation case on you. Read it; I explained why your read on rsoultin is super weird, because there is a step missing in your resume, just here:

" Before I was able to reread things, rsoultin made some posts that were contrary to the assumptions I had made for some of my suspicions of her, and then I realized a few flaws in my suspicions. *THEN I FOUND ANOTHER REASON TO SCUMREAD HER * So I wasn't very suspicious of her any more)."

Since you seem to be catching up, I suppose you have answered my big post later
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
September 30 2015 10:17 GMT
#1308
On September 30 2015 11:56 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2015 11:42 LightningStrike wrote:
On September 30 2015 11:41 Trfel wrote:
On September 30 2015 11:39 LightningStrike wrote:
On September 30 2015 11:27 rsoultin wrote:
On September 30 2015 11:09 LightningStrike wrote:
##Vote: Tfrel


???

Did you not read the fact I like the case on Tfrel?
Please direct me to this incredibly amazingly wonderful case on me?

Rels case plus what others had said about you.
Then I'm assuming you are referring to the one I quoted earlier.

That case is absolute garbage. The claim that Rels makes is that LightningStrike's posts to that point actively pushed the game forward. The thing is, pushing the game forward early in the game can be rather difficult to do, and most people can't do it (even when they try). I know that I can't do it, but I'll keep trying anyway, largely because it's fun.

LightningStrike's posts didn't drive the game forward. Of the posts that Rels quoted that he claims show that LightningStrike pushed the game forward, the following posts do nothing of the sort:
+ Show Spoiler +
On September 29 2015 07:02 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2015 07:00 Trfel wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Welcome to the Wonderful World of Trfel!
(musical version)

Soundtrack for this post

As some of you may know, I really appreciate instrumental music. As with most things, my knowledge of classical music is very limited (I only know a few of the major symphonies, for example), but that doesn't stop me from enjoying music. My tastes in music are fairly strange and specific, which I suppose comes partly from my musical background.

I have no real music theory education, but I have been playing trumpet for a while, throughout grade school and continuing in college. I like to think that I'm quite good at it, but unfortunately musical instruments are very challenging for most people and it would take me far more effort than I feel comfortable giving to get my trumpet playing to the next level. So I'm stuck playing in one of the boring bands at the university, which just has a bunch of people who feel like playing their instrument once in a while but aren't terribly good at it. And I've found myself really losing my appreciation for playing and practicing trumpet, which is very sad because I've spent so much time working on my trumpet playing over the past five years or so, but I'm not sure if there is anything that I can do about it.

But I still enjoy music a ton. Not just listening to it, but being a part of it. So I'm trying to learn how to compose music. It's quite difficult because I have no formal theory training (just whatever I've picked up over my years with trumpet and coming from a fairly musical family), and my piano playing skills are next to zero (and piano playing is basically how everyone composes music). So it will definitely be a difficult learning period, but I hope that I can push through it.

I have a keyboard in my room now, full 88 keys. I've tried to play it several times, but I'm so bad that it's painful to listen to myself. If anyone has any tips for starting on the piano, I'm very interested XD

But the piano has proved useful for testing new chords and progressions for my songs. I don't have much yet, and the progress is slow, but I'm hoping that I can figure out how to compose proper music.

I generally enjoy music with heavier usage of brass instruments (I do play trumpet, after all). John Williams has done some incredible things with brass in many of his famous movie scores and other compositions. In particular, his french horn usage is amazing. I also found an old CD of some Miklos Rosza film music, and that's been really enjoyable as well. The style of music used in film scores seems very fun to compose, play, and listen to, as there is much more freedom in the music itself (though modern movies tend to utilize the musical score more for background only, and don't use a recurring melody that brings the music directly to people's attention, which I find a bit lacking).

Despite having basically no idea what I'm doing, I'm very excited about the possibilities and hope to create some good songs.

One great band piece to end the post (or at least, I think it's a great band piece ):

TLDR please? Also guys I'm town this game let's get some scum lynched!
Asking for TLDR does not drive the game forward. Saying you are town does not drive the game forward. Saying you want to lynch scum does not drive the game forward.
On September 29 2015 07:07 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2015 07:07 Trfel wrote:
On September 29 2015 07:03 rsoultin wrote:
On September 29 2015 07:02 LightningStrike wrote:
On September 29 2015 07:00 Trfel wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Welcome to the Wonderful World of Trfel!
(musical version)

Soundtrack for this post

As some of you may know, I really appreciate instrumental music. As with most things, my knowledge of classical music is very limited (I only know a few of the major symphonies, for example), but that doesn't stop me from enjoying music. My tastes in music are fairly strange and specific, which I suppose comes partly from my musical background.

I have no real music theory education, but I have been playing trumpet for a while, throughout grade school and continuing in college. I like to think that I'm quite good at it, but unfortunately musical instruments are very challenging for most people and it would take me far more effort than I feel comfortable giving to get my trumpet playing to the next level. So I'm stuck playing in one of the boring bands at the university, which just has a bunch of people who feel like playing their instrument once in a while but aren't terribly good at it. And I've found myself really losing my appreciation for playing and practicing trumpet, which is very sad because I've spent so much time working on my trumpet playing over the past five years or so, but I'm not sure if there is anything that I can do about it.

But I still enjoy music a ton. Not just listening to it, but being a part of it. So I'm trying to learn how to compose music. It's quite difficult because I have no formal theory training (just whatever I've picked up over my years with trumpet and coming from a fairly musical family), and my piano playing skills are next to zero (and piano playing is basically how everyone composes music). So it will definitely be a difficult learning period, but I hope that I can push through it.

I have a keyboard in my room now, full 88 keys. I've tried to play it several times, but I'm so bad that it's painful to listen to myself. If anyone has any tips for starting on the piano, I'm very interested XD

But the piano has proved useful for testing new chords and progressions for my songs. I don't have much yet, and the progress is slow, but I'm hoping that I can figure out how to compose proper music.

I generally enjoy music with heavier usage of brass instruments (I do play trumpet, after all). John Williams has done some incredible things with brass in many of his famous movie scores and other compositions. In particular, his french horn usage is amazing. I also found an old CD of some Miklos Rosza film music, and that's been really enjoyable as well. The style of music used in film scores seems very fun to compose, play, and listen to, as there is much more freedom in the music itself (though modern movies tend to utilize the musical score more for background only, and don't use a recurring melody that brings the music directly to people's attention, which I find a bit lacking).

Despite having basically no idea what I'm doing, I'm very excited about the possibilities and hope to create some good songs.

One great band piece to end the post (or at least, I think it's a great band piece ):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHjFvEZXIko

TLDR please? Also guys I'm town this game let's get some scum lynched!


TLDR:

yada yada music yada

not posting cause music yada yada
Anyway, this post is extremely scummy. Rsoultin is clearly mafia.

Why does she not take a stance? She's just fanning the flames and waiting to see where everyone comes down instead of actually leading the thread.

##vote rsoultin

Policy lynching her already? Oh please I thought that post was funny from her lol.
Basically saying "Policy lynching rsoultin is bad". But he's not actually saying anything about my (Trfel's) alignment here, or anything about rsoultin (other than not wanting to policy lynch her at this time).
On September 29 2015 07:20 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2015 07:19 Damdred wrote:
Ok I have a couple terrible town reads

Is this going to be the theme for early Day 1? This just going to a shitfest.....
He doesn't say anything about Damdred's alignment at all. He just comments.

What these posts have in common is that they don't drive the thread forward or contribute towards any reads. They're just commenting without taking a stance.

CLARIFICATION: I do NOT think that these posts are scummy or bad. While they don't drive the thread forward, they don't hurt town at all. In fact, LightningStrike's early posting suggests that he is town, so that is useful. But that doesn't change the fact that Rels' claim is simply wrong.

The other two posts that Rels quoted are where LightningStrike asks a question about rsoultin's stance on Damdred:
+ Show Spoiler +
On September 29 2015 07:10 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2015 07:09 rsoultin wrote:
On September 29 2015 07:07 Damdred wrote:
Damdred is looking for a professional sexy person to welcome into his loving towny arms. All applicants will be screened please apply below.

Requirements:
A good person to team up with
Has to not doubt my alignment once n1 hits or on weekends when I'm busy
Must not ignore my posts or talk over me
must have a good voice
and be funny

and like walks

Please apply for my townfriend


:/

if you're town i would have thought this position was already filled

you wound me deep, damdy

deep

Are you implying Damdred could be mafia for that?
On September 29 2015 07:12 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2015 07:11 rsoultin wrote:
On September 29 2015 07:10 LightningStrike wrote:
On September 29 2015 07:09 rsoultin wrote:
On September 29 2015 07:07 Damdred wrote:
Damdred is looking for a professional sexy person to welcome into his loving towny arms. All applicants will be screened please apply below.

Requirements:
A good person to team up with
Has to not doubt my alignment once n1 hits or on weekends when I'm busy
Must not ignore my posts or talk over me
must have a good voice
and be funny

and like walks

Please apply for my townfriend


:/

if you're town i would have thought this position was already filled

you wound me deep, damdy

deep

Are you implying Damdred could be mafia for that?


nope

Then what were you implying there?
Which I suppose can maybe be seen as driving the thread forward, but not very strongly. It's essentially just a question for clarification.

Show nested quote +
On September 29 2015 07:21 Trfel wrote:
On September 29 2015 07:20 LightningStrike wrote:
On September 29 2015 07:19 Damdred wrote:
Ok I have a couple terrible town reads

Is this going to be the theme for early Day 1? This just going to a shitfest.....
If you don't like the direction that the thread is going in, shouldn't you do something about it instead of just commenting?
This post. This is NOT a scumread. I was trying to tell LightningStrike that if he wants the thread to be a certain way, and to have a certain direction/atmosphere, then he should try to create that atmosphere. He could produce some reads with actual explanations, for example. Note that at this point, LightningStrike had actually made zero reads. This isn't driving the thread forward. Again, LightningStrike's posting wasn't bad by any means, I was trying to encourage him to do more (in the primary definition of the word, the positive one).

Basically, Rels' case has no grounds whatsoever, and completely misinterprets LightningStrike's early posts and my post towards him. I am not sure if it makes him mafia or not, but I really don't like it.

Mm OK. I took your reply to LS as an attack. If it was an invitation to continue being serious then I may have overreacted.
But this is not the strong point of my push against you. Your rsoultin's read is.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
September 30 2015 10:35 GMT
#1311
On September 30 2015 13:08 Trfel wrote:
Rels, if you'd actually like an explanation for my read progression on rsoultin, let me know and I can provide it.

I do, because it doesn't make sense to me. I'll copy paste what I wrote earlier, with an addition near the end:

The timeline is the following:
A - rsoultin is scum for having a weird reaction to Trfel's first post and not leading the thread forward. I thought this vote was a joke, but apparently not.
On September 29 2015 07:07 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2015 07:03 rsoultin wrote:
On September 29 2015 07:02 LightningStrike wrote:
On September 29 2015 07:00 Trfel wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Welcome to the Wonderful World of Trfel!
(musical version)

Soundtrack for this post

As some of you may know, I really appreciate instrumental music. As with most things, my knowledge of classical music is very limited (I only know a few of the major symphonies, for example), but that doesn't stop me from enjoying music. My tastes in music are fairly strange and specific, which I suppose comes partly from my musical background.

I have no real music theory education, but I have been playing trumpet for a while, throughout grade school and continuing in college. I like to think that I'm quite good at it, but unfortunately musical instruments are very challenging for most people and it would take me far more effort than I feel comfortable giving to get my trumpet playing to the next level. So I'm stuck playing in one of the boring bands at the university, which just has a bunch of people who feel like playing their instrument once in a while but aren't terribly good at it. And I've found myself really losing my appreciation for playing and practicing trumpet, which is very sad because I've spent so much time working on my trumpet playing over the past five years or so, but I'm not sure if there is anything that I can do about it.

But I still enjoy music a ton. Not just listening to it, but being a part of it. So I'm trying to learn how to compose music. It's quite difficult because I have no formal theory training (just whatever I've picked up over my years with trumpet and coming from a fairly musical family), and my piano playing skills are next to zero (and piano playing is basically how everyone composes music). So it will definitely be a difficult learning period, but I hope that I can push through it.

I have a keyboard in my room now, full 88 keys. I've tried to play it several times, but I'm so bad that it's painful to listen to myself. If anyone has any tips for starting on the piano, I'm very interested XD

But the piano has proved useful for testing new chords and progressions for my songs. I don't have much yet, and the progress is slow, but I'm hoping that I can figure out how to compose proper music.

I generally enjoy music with heavier usage of brass instruments (I do play trumpet, after all). John Williams has done some incredible things with brass in many of his famous movie scores and other compositions. In particular, his french horn usage is amazing. I also found an old CD of some Miklos Rosza film music, and that's been really enjoyable as well. The style of music used in film scores seems very fun to compose, play, and listen to, as there is much more freedom in the music itself (though modern movies tend to utilize the musical score more for background only, and don't use a recurring melody that brings the music directly to people's attention, which I find a bit lacking).

Despite having basically no idea what I'm doing, I'm very excited about the possibilities and hope to create some good songs.

One great band piece to end the post (or at least, I think it's a great band piece ):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHjFvEZXIko

TLDR please? Also guys I'm town this game let's get some scum lynched!


TLDR:

yada yada music yada

not posting cause music yada yada
Anyway, this post is extremely scummy. Rsoultin is clearly mafia.

Why does she not take a stance? She's just fanning the flames and waiting to see where everyone comes down instead of actually leading the thread.

##vote rsoultin


B - rsoultin is scum for ???
On September 29 2015 07:28 Trfel wrote:
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On September 29 2015 07:25 rsoultin wrote:
btw truffle nope ^^ i only skimmed it cause yawn lol you can keep your shitty vote
Hm, I kind of actually think you are mafia now.....

But I can't decide if I should push or wait.....


C - rsoultin is not scum anymore
On September 29 2015 09:38 Trfel wrote:
Basically my argument against rsoultin kind of doesn't work. I assumed that rsoultin had a certain reason for doing stuff and had a certain interpretation of why I was asking what I asked, but I was wrong.

So basically I dunno.


step added to the timeline
D - actually Trfel remembered another reason to scumread rsoultin!
On September 29 2015 09:39 Trfel wrote:
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On September 29 2015 09:33 rsoultin wrote:
On September 29 2015 07:12 rsoultin wrote:
On September 29 2015 07:09 GlowingBear wrote:
By the way:

O hai!

I'm town


truffle took your position. next phase


oh is this the post you didn't get, truffle?

all i was saying was that you had already posted the "post to get reactions/discussion started" post, and that gb could move on to something more productive

i don't know why i always assume these things are blindingly obvious lol ><
OH YEAH that was my argument!

Thank you for reminding me!

Never mind, it's still somewhat valid.


E - rsoultin is scum for focusing too much on Trfel's and GB's "baits" ... I think
On September 29 2015 09:44 Trfel wrote:
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On September 29 2015 09:33 rsoultin wrote:
On September 29 2015 07:12 rsoultin wrote:
On September 29 2015 07:09 GlowingBear wrote:
By the way:

O hai!

I'm town


truffle took your position. next phase


oh is this the post you didn't get, truffle?

all i was saying was that you had already posted the "post to get reactions/discussion started" post, and that gb could move on to something more productive

i don't know why i always assume these things are blindingly obvious lol ><
Basically, GlowingBear made this one post purely to generate discussion. His other posts before this post that you made were serious posts.

The post you quoted, the "I'm town" post, does nothing to promote discussion at all. My opening posts also didn't end up creating any discussion.

Basically, your post claims that my opening posts actually had a purpose and created discussion, and GlowingBear was actually succeeding at making provocative posts. Both claims I disagree with.

Hm, but now that I think about it I don't think that this is a good argument

Wow, I'm really bad at this.


I don't understand this rsoultin read progression. It really feels like Trfel decided rsoultin was scum but had a hard time finding the reason why. It is scum indicative 'cause mafia do exactly that; they decide who to scumread and who to townread for strategic purposes, then look for things that makes their targets townie or scummy.


On September 30 2015 13:17 Trfel wrote:
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On September 29 2015 22:45 Rels wrote:
On September 29 2015 22:40 marvellosity wrote:
It is scum indicative 'cause mafia do exactly that; they decide who to scumread and who to townread for strategic purposes, then look for things that makes their targets townie or scummy.

how often do you see examples of mafia actually scumreading someone and then making themselves look really stupid with the subsequent explanations?

not often i wager

sure mafia decide who they are going to town/mafiaread for strategic purposes, but they then usually decide the reasons as well so what happened to Trfel doesn't happen

i grant you it's a strange thing, but you're not selling its scummyness to me right now

I agree it's stupid. It is the most likely explanation though; how do you explain town Trfel keeping his rsoultin scumread even after admitting his first reason was bad ? I mean, his first reason was so bad I dismissed the post as a joke.
The only explanation for town Trfel to do that is if he is joking with rsoultin, like getting her angry on purpose for humour.
Let me help you out a bit. Skype conversation with rsoultin, about an hour before the game started.

"you know i'm actually going to lynch you day 1 ^^"
"i feel like if i actually push you all day during the game
it would get on your nerves eventually
but then again you're going to roll mafia, so maybe that's not so bad XD"

OK that's what your first scumread looked like, happy to have read that correctly. (=
So you've explained A (teasing), B and C steps (having a bad reason to scumread her, then realizing it's bad).
But I don't understand the D and E steps. That cannot be explained by teasing ? You say "my read on rsoultin was bad", then "Oh I forgot another reason I had to scumread her!", then "yeah that was that reason too! ... but actually that's not super good". What is the explanation for that ?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
September 30 2015 10:41 GMT
#1313
OK caught up! Let's see that rsoultin read
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
September 30 2015 10:54 GMT
#1319
On September 30 2015 18:28 marvellosity wrote:
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On September 30 2015 09:59 rsoultin wrote:
On September 30 2015 09:56 Damdred wrote:
RS rayn is town?


stronger read on you and marv, but i think so

he's being malleable which is more a town trait of his...malleable for rayn, anyway

i know that the scott vote contradicts that lol ><

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On September 30 2015 09:21 rsoultin wrote:

ye that was about it, other than agree with marv 100% on the semantics argument earlier not as interesting as you think it was rayn lol ><

strong townreads
damdy
rayn
marv

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On September 30 2015 11:09 rsoultin wrote:
eeeehhhh something's off...has marv been pushing anything worth pushing, damdy? i know you think he's lock town, but i don't think he's ever done anything as asinine as park a vote on me with the mandate "make a post you can only make as town"...it's not a scumread at all and i have one of the most difficult playstyles to nail down, if people's difficulty in catching my scumplay is any indication


mafia.

##unvote
##vote: rsoultin

OK I fact checked that and it's true. Marv didn't post anything between rsoultin's townread of him and the "marv didn't push anything worth Damdy" post. Later she lists marv as one of the three lynch candidates from her POV.
That doesn't make sense. rsoultin voted marv at the beginning of the game to pressure him. Then when marv did stuff, she put it in the "strong townread" category, before putting him in the "I would lynch him" category 1h30 later when marv DID NOT POST A THING BETWEEN.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
September 30 2015 10:56 GMT
#1321
Still think Trfel's rsoultin read is weird, but no way Trfel and rsoultin are scum together.

##Unvote
##Vote rsoultin
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
September 30 2015 10:57 GMT
#1324
On September 30 2015 19:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On September 30 2015 19:44 marvellosity wrote:
ok, if you're still sure about it tomorrow we can lynch scott

this is a read that will not change, ever.
and i am 100% sure about him being mafia.

no way scott and rsoultin are scum together I think
she pushed him all game as one of her lynch candidate
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
September 30 2015 11:00 GMT
#1334
On September 30 2015 19:57 marvellosity wrote:
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On September 30 2015 19:56 Rels wrote:
Still think Trfel's rsoultin read is weird, but no way Trfel and rsoultin are scum together.

##Unvote
##Vote rsoultin

don't actually agree

last time they were mafia together they had really really funky interactions together earlygame.

probably quite easy to find in the database.

mm something to check then
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
September 30 2015 11:02 GMT
#1339
On September 30 2015 20:01 rsoultin wrote:
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On September 30 2015 20:00 Rels wrote:
On September 30 2015 19:57 marvellosity wrote:
On September 30 2015 19:56 Rels wrote:
Still think Trfel's rsoultin read is weird, but no way Trfel and rsoultin are scum together.

##Unvote
##Vote rsoultin

don't actually agree

last time they were mafia together they had really really funky interactions together earlygame.

probably quite easy to find in the database.

mm something to check then


tropical, yes we did

truffle is still town and i'm still town though ^^

oh that's the same game the weird ruxxar's read is coming from
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