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On September 29 2015 21:33 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2015 21:23 Rels wrote:
do you agree your posts were mechanical ? Nope because they aren't at all. I post whatever comes to my mind LS, I don't see anything from damdred's and Marv interaction. Just a fight between egos. Yeah. That's it. Wait, I thought that Damdred's behavior in his argument with marvellosity was one of the main reasons that GlowingBear was scumreading Damdred?
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Someone please talk to me about sicklucker...
On September 30 2015 12:36 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2015 12:24 Trfel wrote:On September 30 2015 12:21 sicklucker wrote:
As for trefl I feel like he was trying to deflect on me when I entered the thread after ignoring me early so I dont think hes a bad lynch. Feel like hes trying to get a lynch on me no now that hes under presure. If thats true your a fool. but trefl is a strong town player i think scotts a better lynch So I'm scum for being suspicious of you now, and not earlier, for posts that you made after I left, and only saw in the past two hours or so? And then you insult my play, and then call me a strong town player? You can't have it both ways. i also complimented you! well yesterday you ignored me it was only after you had 4 votes on you that you seemed interested in anything I had to say or have said. This feels sort of apologetic, almost a little scared of me? Sicklucker should never be scared of me, ever...
On September 30 2015 12:41 sicklucker wrote:Dear trefel dont try to spin this Show nested quote +On September 29 2015 09:18 Trfel wrote:On September 29 2015 09:12 MoosyDoosy wrote:On September 29 2015 09:11 Trfel wrote:On September 29 2015 09:08 rsoultin wrote:On September 29 2015 09:05 Trfel wrote:On September 29 2015 09:01 rsoultin wrote:On September 29 2015 08:59 MoosyDoosy wrote:On September 29 2015 08:56 rsoultin wrote:On September 29 2015 08:56 MoosyDoosy wrote:
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mmm...I don't see typical rsoul bubbliness or willingness to question things. Basically no indication you're looking into stuff. lol silence mortal! you do not see with the eyes of the enlightened! mmm...what makes you think Trfel is town so far? amazingness and wizardry namely, the post he thinks he caught me with lol apparently assuming that i don't know what he's doing and would react like some sort of ignorant buffoon who has never seen his play before ^^ I don't understand what you're saying here at all... I'm going to reread the thread now. This is getting unbearable. then let me make this simple for you you often lead (when you have the time) with a post that you think makes you look scummy...in part because of GB's coaching (thus the reference to acolyte) i posted  while waiting to see if anyone would take the bait, you're right. but your little theory falls apart because you assume that i'd for some god-awful reason not link this to the other myriad times you did it and at worst null read you for it -flicks- now go be productive and actually find scum I expected you to largely ignore my opening few posts? (unless you cared to discuss musical taste) My read on you is based on entirely different reasons? I actually had no clue you posed a .... And MoosyDoosy, I haven't started my reread yet. I'm slow  I'm asking for initial thoughts on your first read. Just as a basis for how your reads shift post-reread. So just list people who you are going to look specifically at during your re-read. Read my filter, I've posted basically all of my thoughts (even if it's not really explained). I'm going to be specifically looking at everyone who has posted, with the possible exception of sicklucker. Hope that helps you! Here you specifically state you are not trying to read me lolz Show nested quote +On September 30 2015 11:03 Trfel wrote:On September 29 2015 10:48 sicklucker wrote:
As of now i would vote j roc that opening was so bad as he missed two points in the thread in his very small opening.
Not reading the thread = mafia. I should know I role mafa alot Does anyone else want to lynch sicklucker? 1 hour ago (when your the leading wagon) out of no where you bring my name up almost as if your seeing if there is any interest in lynching me and not you. THESE ARE YOUR ONLY MENTIOINS OF ME IN YOUR FILTER BEFORE THAT. You cant make up lies like "well i was not in the thread" you had 30 some hours lol On September 30 2015 12:44 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2015 12:24 Trfel wrote:On September 30 2015 12:21 sicklucker wrote:
As for trefl I feel like he was trying to deflect on me when I entered the thread after ignoring me early so I dont think hes a bad lynch. Feel like hes trying to get a lynch on me no now that hes under presure. If thats true your a fool. but trefl is a strong town player i think scotts a better lynch So I'm scum for being suspicious of you now, and not earlier, for posts that you made after I left, and only saw in the past two hours or so? And then you insult my play, and then call me a strong town player? You can't have it both ways. tref is lying here guys... thoughts? And this progression simply doesn't make sense. Argument aside.
Here is his progression:
Semi-friendly worded clarification
Don't try to spin things, depending on how you answer this I might vote for you
Trfel is lying, everyone please talk about this (before he answers)
Which is a completely nonsensical progression. Town should never, ever act like this.
As for the argument itself, I had no opinion of sicklucker last night. I have an opinion of sicklucker now because he did scummy things in between last night, when I stopped reading the thread, and tonight, when I have been reading the thread again. Which is exactly what I stated in my previous post. He chooses to say that I was in the thread and that I was lying for no reason at all? When talking politely to me a few minutes before?
I just don't see any town thought process in this at all.
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Sicklucker, I specifically pointed out several suspicious posts from you. And they were posted after I left the thread.
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On September 30 2015 12:55 sicklucker wrote:
Trefel read my posts and tell me you didnt post a non true statement? I have done it as town before but I admitted it later..
but those posts you just made is the mafia path
I actually just checked my filter and yours, and I'm completely right. The first thing I have in my notes for you being suspicious was something you posted after I left the thread. And I had many more reasons after that.
On September 30 2015 11:14 sicklucker wrote:
and this cool guy so far has openly role hunted and claims to read me after 1 game that im pretty sure never happened (i never played with this guy before) And you want to talk about me as trefel? I remember when everyone thought you were the second coming of jesus Calling me overrated, in an elaborate description. When people rate me quite low, this does sting a bit. I know, my ego is too large, despite being bad.
I don't really mind it when people insult me. I do think it's very strange that you insult me and then call me a good town player. It seems like you're trying to downplay my abilities when I'm showing suspicions of you, then trying to appease me when I start using more force.
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On September 30 2015 13:01 rsoultin wrote:
-_-
guys
sl basically said he's suspicious of you, truffle, but would rather lynch scott because you'll bring more to town if you're town Which is a terrible reason in and of itself...
I should probably let this drop, though, maybe I've forgotten just how different sicklucker's though processes are from my own. At least until I fully catch up in the thread.
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Rels, if you'd actually like an explanation for my read progression on rsoultin, let me know and I can provide it.
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On September 30 2015 13:05 sicklucker wrote:
Tref you made a post 1 hour before my 20 hour return. im not sure how much you posted but im sure it was alot more then me. Most of my posts were at the very start so unless you were only around for the first 4 hours of the game are posts should have overlapped. alot.. You're making a ton of claims and assumptions without checking your facts. I've continually told you the actual facts, and you are ignoring them entirely with unsupported claims.
Your filter
My filter
On September 29 2015 09:47 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2015 09:45 rsoultin wrote:On September 29 2015 09:44 Trfel wrote:On September 29 2015 09:33 rsoultin wrote:On September 29 2015 07:12 rsoultin wrote:On September 29 2015 07:09 GlowingBear wrote:
By the way:
O hai!
I'm town truffle took your position. next phase oh is this the post you didn't get, truffle? all i was saying was that you had already posted the "post to get reactions/discussion started" post, and that gb could move on to something more productive i don't know why i always assume these things are blindingly obvious lol >< Basically, GlowingBear made this one post purely to generate discussion. His other posts before this post that you made were serious posts. The post you quoted, the "I'm town" post, does nothing to promote discussion at all. My opening posts also didn't end up creating any discussion. Basically, your post claims that my opening posts actually had a purpose and created discussion, and GlowingBear was actually succeeding at making provocative posts. Both claims I disagree with. Hm, but now that I think about it I don't think that this is a good argument  Wow, I'm really bad at this. given i was speaking to the intention of the posts and not the result... DING DING DING It's okay, you're mafia anyway XD My last post before leaving the thread for quite some time, at 20:47 EDT on the 28th.On September 30 2015 09:35 Trfel wrote:
Rsoultin, why do you think that I am town?
I don't understand that read at all XD My next post. At this point I had not read the thread. The time here is 20:35 EDT on the 29th, which makes for 23 hours and 48 minutes away from the thread.On September 29 2015 10:34 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2015 10:27 rsoultin wrote:On September 29 2015 10:26 sicklucker wrote:On September 29 2015 10:14 rsoultin wrote:On September 29 2015 10:12 sicklucker wrote:
i like how no one even trys to read me anymore. That means im doing my job you're not doing yourself any favors with posts like these who cares they dont make me mafia nothing you've done has made you town are you going to participate in the game or not? Sometimes you dont want to be town. yes I believe I have been playing quite alot for a day 1 This is the first post I marked as suspicious for you. This post was made at 21:34 EDT on the 28th, after I left. Your scumread of J Roc was posted after this post as well.
Got it?
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On September 29 2015 22:45 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2015 22:40 marvellosity wrote:It is scum indicative 'cause mafia do exactly that; they decide who to scumread and who to townread for strategic purposes, then look for things that makes their targets townie or scummy. how often do you see examples of mafia actually scumreading someone and then making themselves look really stupid with the subsequent explanations? not often i wager sure mafia decide who they are going to town/mafiaread for strategic purposes, but they then usually decide the reasons as well so what happened to Trfel doesn't happen i grant you it's a strange thing, but you're not selling its scummyness to me right now I agree it's stupid. It is the most likely explanation though; how do you explain town Trfel keeping his rsoultin scumread even after admitting his first reason was bad ? I mean, his first reason was so bad I dismissed the post as a joke. The only explanation for town Trfel to do that is if he is joking with rsoultin, like getting her angry on purpose for humour. Let me help you out a bit. Skype conversation with rsoultin, about an hour before the game started.
"you know i'm actually going to lynch you day 1 ^^"
"i feel like if i actually push you all day during the game
it would get on your nerves eventually
but then again you're going to roll mafia, so maybe that's not so bad XD"
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On September 30 2015 13:20 sicklucker wrote:
TREFEL I QUOTED YOUR OWN POST WHERE YOU SAID YOUR NOT TRYING TO READ ME. how can you dispute this? Oh that? You've been talking about that this entire time?
I'm not sure what the right word for this is? Joke doesn't quite fit? I was trying to communicate something by saying something else...
Basically I was saying that I wasn't going to make extra effort to try to figure out your alignment at that time. Well, there were things that stood out to me, and plus the time changed. You actually expect me to not try and read you all game because of an off-hand comment I made right at the start?
And I even said possible exception, meaning that I may try to specifically look at you anyway?
Like that's simply not a lie, and even if it was, it wouldn't be important at all...
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Sicklucker, how long were you gone from the thread for?
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On September 30 2015 13:31 sicklucker wrote:
11pm to 9pm but even before that i was barely around So you're saying that you were sort of around while you were gone from the thread?
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On September 30 2015 13:32 sicklucker wrote:
like your still trying to make excuses. you dont go back and read the thread that already happened? thats what I do everytime i come to the thread and I go back and quote things that interest me. do you not do this? do you just enter the thread ignore it and type things? Let's see, it's been three and a half hours since I came back, and I'm still trying to read the thread. I'm a very slow player. So yes, I start posting about things before I fully catch up.
My point is that you were gone for a reasonably long period of time. So when I say that I was gone for a reasonably long period of time, why do you immediately insist that I am lying?
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On September 30 2015 13:36 sicklucker wrote:
both of are posts before today trefel were all on sept 28 around the same time. Thats why you were rubbing me the wrong way even before this you never tried to read me dispute us being in the thread together. It seems we left at about the same time as well It doesn't matter if I leave one second before you do. If you make an important post in that one second, I don't see it.
I have proven this, with time stamps and quotes. I don't know how you can possibly not understand this.
It's so hard to see this coming from town, but I haven't played with sicklucker for so long...
Sicklucker, I'm going to ignore you for a while. This isn't going anywhere.
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So I caught up, and I have basically no clue about anything
I think I'm going to go to sleep now and try to figure it out tomorrow.
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Rsoultin, role PMs aside, why can't I be mafia with you?
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On October 01 2015 01:44 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2015 01:42 Trfel wrote:
Rsoultin, role PMs aside, why can't I be mafia with you? cause i'm not mafia? and i'd probably be bussing you here xP let's be honest i'm more likely to late game than you are True, however you called me town many times before the wagon on you started. I think that if you had attempted to bus me you would die.
Do you have any other reasons? Or any reasons why the above is wrong?
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On October 01 2015 01:47 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2015 01:46 Trfel wrote:On October 01 2015 01:44 rsoultin wrote:On October 01 2015 01:42 Trfel wrote:
Rsoultin, role PMs aside, why can't I be mafia with you? cause i'm not mafia? and i'd probably be bussing you here xP let's be honest i'm more likely to late game than you are True, however you called me town many times before the wagon on you started. I think that if you had attempted to bus me you would die. Do you have any other reasons? Or any reasons why the above is wrong? also why does this matter? this is only relevant if we're both scum @.@ since i'm not and you should at least be pretending not to be if i'm wrong on you, i don't get this Several times you made the assertion that we cannot be mafia together, most notably for your scumread on Rels.
I'm having a lot of trouble understanding why this is, because nothing of our interactions strike me as something that we really couldn't do as scum together (context aside). Maybe you know something I don't, but I think you probably ought to know this. And I don't see why the context changes anything.
Seeing as your townread on me this game is of about the same strength of your townread of me last game (I think, anyway?), and last game you scumread me, I really don't understand.
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On October 01 2015 01:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Trfel why don't you care about the fack the coolnamedude calls you "suspicious but town"? Why should I care?
There are several plausible interpretations for the meaning of that phrase. I'd like to know what he really meant by it, but it's not urgent. It's really not incriminating.
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On October 01 2015 01:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2015 01:56 Trfel wrote:On October 01 2015 01:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Trfel why don't you care about the fack the coolnamedude calls you "suspicious but town"? Why should I care? There are several plausible interpretations for the meaning of that phrase. I'd like to know what he really meant by it, but it's not urgent. It's really not incriminating. Do you find it reasonable for someone to say someone is suspicious but town? Someone from SC2 Arcade mafia? Definitely.
Last time someone from SC2 Arcade mafia played on TL, they repeatedly told people to stop playing the game because we were supposed to just wait until someone solved the game on day 3-4 with power roles. And that we shouldn't be posting.
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On October 01 2015 02:03 Damdred wrote:
I'm pretty sure RS is town and that Marv is town.
I thought GB had voted RS but I was wrong, I think its actually worse GB isn't really trying to push the lynch he wants and just letting the thread get destroyed.
Because you guys destroyed the thread and anyone who wants to catch up can't effectively. I skipped 6 pages meh Why do you think rsoultin is town?
Do you think that rsoultin and I cannot possibly be mafia together here?
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