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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 07 2015 16:38 GMT
#5306
On October 08 2015 01:35 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2015 01:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 08 2015 01:26 marvellosity wrote:
On October 08 2015 01:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 08 2015 01:21 marvellosity wrote:
On October 08 2015 01:14 justanothertownie wrote:
On October 08 2015 01:11 marvellosity wrote:
On October 08 2015 01:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 08 2015 01:08 marvellosity wrote:
rayn, you need to follow in my footsteps, and become a lazy old grandpapa of TL Mafia.

I take a step forward and just quit.

that's not a step forward, that's shooting yourself in the foot.

If I can learn to sit back a bit (after a very long time always playing very intense and at a top level) so can you :>

The thing is while rayn absolutely should do that you absolutely should not :p

The problem is I am very busy, I'm particularly active outside of work at the moment, weekends are usually a write-off, etc etc.

that's not a problem. you are never lynched because of it when you are town.
you have the charisma and writing skills to actually convince people to not lynch you even if they think you are mafia.

I'm not talking about in terms of getting lynched. It's clear lynching me as town is nearly impossible.

I mean in terms of game-solving, the thought it requires, the going back and checking/looking at stuff, missing and being unable to direct the flow of the game for long periods, etc etc

mmm okay. but like... when you are not considered town noone will listen to you (unless you yell it to their faces).
except for you. you are listened to, always.

For example take Titanic VII or the game where Koshi mindlessly tunneled me and lynched me ove Onegu who was scum. I was so fucking close to throw that game for reals..... I hate that shit. I was right on everything (when it mattered) but he decided to call me mafia all game long.

idk... it's one thing to miss important stuff, but it's another thing for the town to miss ALL important stuff and cover it with dumbass meta shit. And that's what has happened lately.

Mafia by nature of the game is full of flawed, egotistical individuals (just to be clear, i'm not saying anyone who plays mafia is more flawed than anyone who doesn't :p) who make mistakes. Of course this doesn't stop me ranting about things that annoy me (unexplained firm townread meta) but meh, it is what it is, and when that fad passes, an equally dumb one will probably take its place.

Mafia is very much a game of imperfection and you're trying to approach it from an idealistic standpoint that the nature of the game isn't suited to

edit: yes, it's also very nice to have everyone listen to you by default somehow.

ofc this is true. but let me ask you this:
how do you think i managed to lynch scum after scum early on this year?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 07 2015 16:39 GMT
#5307
answer: townies were not stupid.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 07 2015 16:45 GMT
#5311
I am not quitting because i am a pussy.
I ma quitting because i don't enjoy playing with people who don't play.

I am playing fairly well as either alignment when people play (like XXX), and while i heavily disagree with the outcome of that game because it was for shit reasons, i agree with it. Like i should prolly killed other people or played better, or me and JAT should both played better on D1. But that game was actually a GAME, other games have felt like shit (in a sense that it's just -- boring) lately. deconduo game was good imo, except i didn't really get to play it because of the shit moosy pulled off. but it was a good game, for sure.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 07 2015 16:50 GMT
#5313
marv, if i get burned out by a single game that much it must be a good game.
I literally put all my effort i ever had into that game and i was so pissed off when i didn't win.
I fucking cracked into pieces.
That is the truth.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 07 2015 16:56 GMT
#5316
On October 08 2015 01:54 marvellosity wrote:
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On October 08 2015 01:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
marv, if i get burned out by a single game that much it must be a good game.
I literally put all my effort i ever had into that game and i was so pissed off when i didn't win.
I fucking cracked into pieces.
That is the truth.

It was a fantastic game, it really was.

I know it was.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 07 2015 17:02 GMT
#5318
On October 08 2015 02:00 marvellosity wrote:
didn't read any of the game past when I died, but I kinda assume that was the case here also.

yeah it was. although that was never a reason anyone (rsoultin) read Rels mafia for it. And i do know for a fact moosy does illogical shit as scum aswell. so.. meh...
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 07 2015 17:05 GMT
#5322
On October 08 2015 02:04 MoosyDoosy wrote:
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On October 08 2015 02:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 08 2015 02:00 marvellosity wrote:
didn't read any of the game past when I died, but I kinda assume that was the case here also.

yeah it was. although that was never a reason anyone (rsoultin) read Rels mafia for it. And i do know for a fact moosy does illogical shit as scum aswell. so.. meh...

accept it rayn! ACCEPT IT! you can not read me unless you employ tone!

i don' t emply tone in any of my reads because that's just shit.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 07 2015 17:06 GMT
#5323
On October 08 2015 02:04 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2015 02:00 marvellosity wrote:
On October 08 2015 01:46 Rels wrote:
On October 08 2015 01:09 rsoultin wrote:
On October 08 2015 01:05 Rels wrote:
bah we'll see. I have a long way to go before playing town like you do! At the moment I had a lot of fun in every game I played (= except that part where I called rsoultin a stupid moron because I was mad


lol <3

i consider it a compliment, really! for a rational scum rels to respond to my case like that means i had a rock-solid case

i mentioned in the QT to nocturne that your response actually solidified my scumread, since you were trying to figure out the scum between sicklucker and myself and your response to my case on you was

"you stupid moron!" lol

but i doubt i'll be able to explain why the emotions don't fit a town mindset to anyone who doesn't understand it just seeing it my Achilles heel so to speak...or one of them

Yeah that case was really the best case that could made on me. Well fucking played. I played sloppily at times but the only real inconsistent thing was that I townread GB N1 when I claimed roleblocker, and you nailed it. I was so mad because moosy claim made one million less sense than mine,he had so many things illogical that I pointed out, and I was caught by one smaaaaaall thing :p

what you're missing is that what i've highlighted is generally townie

usually (not always) town claims can be very messy and illogical and things don't make sense.
mafia claims are usually much tidier.

didn't read any of the game past when I died, but I kinda assume that was the case here also.

Yeah that's true. That's why rsoultin pushed me. Didn't change the fact I was mad

meh maybe i was just bad at reading all of it then.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 07 2015 17:07 GMT
#5324
because imo rsoultin pointed out illogicalities of your claim.....
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 07 2015 17:17 GMT
#5326
nvm, i gotta yolo i am travelling in ~10min apparently <3
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 07 2015 18:03 GMT
#5348
Marry me everyone!
It will leadf to good resylts!
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 07 2015 18:04 GMT
#5349
Just marry me!!
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 07 2015 18:18 GMT
#5352
No GB. its very hard toi not lynch yiu when you do those things.
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