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MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
October 01 2015 20:42 GMT
#2681
On October 02 2015 05:42 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2015 05:41 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 02 2015 05:38 Rels wrote:
On October 02 2015 05:37 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 02 2015 05:36 Rels wrote:
On October 02 2015 05:35 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 02 2015 05:34 Rels wrote:
On October 02 2015 05:32 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 02 2015 05:31 Rels wrote:
On October 02 2015 05:28 MoosyDoosy wrote:
[quote]
Why are you throwing stuff at GB? Your post was clearly directed at me and now you're trying to direct it at GB? Didn't you just say GB can't be scum because he went after coolTL too early?

WTF
you might want to reread what I wrote

Then what did you mean by "THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT MOOSY DID"

I wrote "if he is mafia GB wouldn't do that. He would shut up, not vote scott, and come back after the lynch"
Then I wrote "THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT MOOSY DID"
Got it ?

Yes, you're implying I shut up, not voted scott, and came back after the lynch. Which, as I explained, is just false. Then in your response you say: "Oh I wasn't referring to you I'm talking about how this makes GB scummy".

When literally right before you were saying GB couldn't be scum.

I never said this makes GB scummy.
I also said you might want to reread what I wrote.
So you might want to reread what I wrote
Because I said the opposite

hm...didn't see the "wouldn't". Either way, I already explained that I go home at around this time ALWAYS. You can look at previous games to verify this.

It's not super important, my point is that your push on GB was stupid
I will check it regardless, rayn just listed a mafia game of yours

"It's not super important?" So you scum read me for it, then brush it aside once I explain it away? ok.

yes
I explained what GB would have done if he wa

lol then you exclaim in caps: "ACTUALLY MOOSY DID THAT" as if it's super important. so was it an over-reaction instead?
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
October 01 2015 20:43 GMT
#2682
On October 02 2015 05:41 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2015 05:38 Rels wrote:
On October 02 2015 05:37 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 02 2015 05:36 Rels wrote:
On October 02 2015 05:35 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 02 2015 05:34 Rels wrote:
On October 02 2015 05:32 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 02 2015 05:31 Rels wrote:
On October 02 2015 05:28 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 02 2015 05:26 Rels wrote:
[quote]
I don't fucking care, it doesn't make you town or mafia. But that's what mafia GB would have done: he would have found an excuse, shut up, and let people lynch scott

Why are you throwing stuff at GB? Your post was clearly directed at me and now you're trying to direct it at GB? Didn't you just say GB can't be scum because he went after coolTL too early?

WTF
you might want to reread what I wrote

Then what did you mean by "THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT MOOSY DID"

I wrote "if he is mafia GB wouldn't do that. He would shut up, not vote scott, and come back after the lynch"
Then I wrote "THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT MOOSY DID"
Got it ?

Yes, you're implying I shut up, not voted scott, and came back after the lynch. Which, as I explained, is just false. Then in your response you say: "Oh I wasn't referring to you I'm talking about how this makes GB scummy".

When literally right before you were saying GB couldn't be scum.

I never said this makes GB scummy.
I also said you might want to reread what I wrote.
So you might want to reread what I wrote
Because I said the opposite

hm...didn't see the "wouldn't". Either way, I already explained that I go home at around this time ALWAYS. You can look at previous games to verify this.

It's not super important, my point is that your push on GB was stupid
I will check it regardless, rayn just listed a mafia game of yours

"It's not super important?" So you scum read me for it, then brush it aside once I explain it away? ok.

yes it is not super important
I explained what GB would have done if he was mafia: shut up and wait for deadline
Then I realized you did exactly that, so I was excited
But it doesn't mean anything since you could just be busy
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
October 01 2015 20:43 GMT
#2683
As I've explained for multiple times now, this is around the time that I head home so I will do so.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
October 01 2015 20:44 GMT
#2684
On October 02 2015 05:43 MoosyDoosy wrote:
As I've explained for multiple times now, this is around the time that I head home so I will do so.

lol p:
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
October 01 2015 20:46 GMT
#2685
On October 02 2015 05:30 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2015 05:29 The Shining wrote:
On October 02 2015 05:01 Rels wrote:
On October 02 2015 01:42 MoosyDoosy wrote:
GB, whether you realize it or not, I was the first man to vote for coolTL and push for his lynch alongside The Shining. Second of all, I already said that we were lynching coolTL when I came back after EoD. Literally in the post you said was "dumb" I also said the order of lynch was coolTL/GB/Rels/LS. Are you sure you're reading..?

That is just false.
*I* was the first to push for coolTLname's lynch.
On September 29 2015 21:21 Rels wrote:
This first post by coolTLname is super scummy.
It is his first post, and he talks about a lot of differents subjects. A first post with different subjects is scum indicative as mafia usually has a hard time entering the thread.
Plus, I don't know how GB's posts being mechanical and rayn's posts being mechanical are mixed up.
Plus, he agrees on a Moosy's posts that I don't understand.
Plus, he next post is scummy too:
On September 29 2015 16:47 coolTLname wrote:
So i noticed mafia can hold their KP, this makes claiming Roleblock and framing someone possible, as well as fake vet claims. Anyway i propose anyone who claims a blue role to be lynched automatically, if there is no kill , better to leave it in the dark?

Can medics heal themselves?

Two useless questions.
After that he posted one more time and gtfo.

*I* was the first to vote for him.
On October 01 2015 00:35 Rels wrote:
alright leaving work super soon. Voting coolTLname for this:
On September 30 2015 05:52 Rels wrote:
still this more or less:
On September 29 2015 21:21 Rels wrote:
This first post by coolTLname is super scummy.
It is his first post, and he talks about a lot of differents subjects. A first post with different subjects is scum indicative as mafia usually has a hard time entering the thread.
Plus, I don't know how GB's posts being mechanical and rayn's posts being mechanical are mixed up.
Plus, he agrees on a Moosy's posts that I don't understand.
Plus, he next post is scummy too:
On September 29 2015 16:47 coolTLname wrote:
So i noticed mafia can hold their KP, this makes claiming Roleblock and framing someone possible, as well as fake vet claims. Anyway i propose anyone who claims a blue role to be lynched automatically, if there is no kill , better to leave it in the dark?

Can medics heal themselves?

Two useless questions.
After that he posted one more time and gtfo.

without the Moosy part
Plus he has refused to explain his weird GF read on you, so I cannot know if he has a reasonning behind it
Plus he's clearly trolling, I don't know why a town under suspicion would act like that. But Dandel did exactly that last game, so that makes me wary of lynching him


We didn't talk about him a lot recently, but I haven't forgot him. I want to see rsoultin's case on GB though, the thing about Damdred's meta being wrong on purpose.
See you!

##Unvote
##Vote coolTLname

Then GB voted him a few hours later:
On October 01 2015 02:58 GlowingBear wrote:
##unvote
##vote coolTLname


Then YOU voted for him a few hours later:
On October 01 2015 05:38 MoosyDoosy wrote:
##unvote
##vote coolTLname


So this sentence is bullshit: "GB, whether you realize it or not, I was the first man to vote for coolTL and push for his lynch alongside The Shining."


Hrm this is true. And although I started being suspicious of cool pretty early over the Marv non-read, I was actually the last to vote him. I wasn't even really pushing cool, I was still questioning him before I caught his chainsaw RSo defense.

Sigh I guess I'll respond to this too. It doesn't make a difference. Rels and GB's votes didn't do much to start the wagon. It was only after you and me voted for coolTL that the wagon actually started.


On October 01 2015 06:00 KelsierSC wrote:
Day 1 Recall List


rsoultin (2): Trfel, raynpelikoneet, marvellosity, , Rels, scott31337,
GlowingBear (2): Damdred, coolTLname
Trfel (2): GlowingBear, Rels, LightningStrike, sicklucker
coolTLname (5): Rels, GlowingBear, MoosyDoosy, scott31337, TheShining
raynpelikoneet (0): coolTLname, MoosyDoosy
marvellosity (0): Damdred,
scott31337 (1): marvellosity, raynpelikoneet, rsoultin, raynpelikoneet, sicklucker

Not listing (1): rsoultin,

Tonight, I will be banning coolTLname permanently for providing us with atrocious whiskey.
Day 1 ends in at 22:00 GMT (+00:00).

The spirits recall list is here.
Only votes on this list will be counted.

Please mind the deadline as failure to vote will result in a modkill.

[/QUOTE]

But I was the last vote on that train...you were 3rd...neither of us started that train...why are you lying/misrepresenting?
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 01 2015 20:47 GMT
#2686
My filter that contains the cases on who i think is scum;
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/494873-battle-of-the-drams-mafia?user=raynpelikoneet&page=16
starts from ~half of that page (N1).

coolnamedude is mafia.
rsoultin is mafia.
LighntningStrike is mafia

in that order of confidence.

MoosyDoosy could be mafia if one of them magically happens to flip town.

I literally do not believe there is any chance for anyone else in this game to be mafia.
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The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
October 01 2015 20:48 GMT
#2687
On October 02 2015 05:37 LightningStrike wrote:
I mainly want to lynch MD mainly because some of his arguments actually not making much sense and he lied too on some of his posts.


This is true so far but can you elaborate on which points don't make sense?
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 01 2015 20:49 GMT
#2688
in fact sicklucker goes to the same pile with Moosydoosy just because i forgot he exists in the game.
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The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
October 01 2015 20:50 GMT
#2689
On October 02 2015 05:48 The Shining wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2015 05:37 LightningStrike wrote:
I mainly want to lynch MD mainly because some of his arguments actually not making much sense and he lied too on some of his posts.


This is true so far but can you elaborate on which points don't make sense?


Like are you sheeping thread sentiment like Moosy said or do you have examples of the lies and what doesn't make sense to you?
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
October 01 2015 20:52 GMT
#2690
alright going to sleep. I was excited 'cause I found Moosy posting around deadline in the other game; but it was a Saturday p:
see you tomorrow!
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14276 Posts
October 01 2015 20:52 GMT
#2691
On October 02 2015 05:50 The Shining wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2015 05:48 The Shining wrote:
On October 02 2015 05:37 LightningStrike wrote:
I mainly want to lynch MD mainly because some of his arguments actually not making much sense and he lied too on some of his posts.


This is true so far but can you elaborate on which points don't make sense?


Like are you sheeping thread sentiment like Moosy said or do you have examples of the lies and what doesn't make sense to you?

Mainly his arguments vs Rels it just doesn't make much sense at all esp when Rels had proved that MD had lied on some parts. I will go more into detail about it when I get home if I still alive.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
October 01 2015 20:54 GMT
#2692
On October 02 2015 05:38 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2015 05:34 The Shining wrote:
On October 02 2015 05:20 Rels wrote:
On October 02 2015 05:11 The Shining wrote:
OK I lied. I don't want to forget posts after catching up.

On October 01 2015 11:20 coolTLname wrote:
On October 01 2015 11:11 MoosyDoosy wrote:
ok first step is to lynch coolTLname 100% D2. There is zero reason for him to have refused to listen to everything that people were stating against rsoultin. The ease with which he pulls out reasons to townread her disturbs me as well. This is most likely a case of TMI where he knows the alignments so finds it easy to be certain on this read.

how do u explain me getting lynched day 1 unless scott claimed tracker ? Does me having a TON of votes, very rapidly , seem mafia like to you?

I was defending the most active townie who was about to get lynched by mafia, Did u notice how she didnt even vote up trfel because she thought he was town? Did u see her other mafia games where she plays 100% differently ? Do u realize she has the largest filter out of anyone in this game ? I could go on but u could also just check my filter.


You didn't get lynched d1 so that first argument is pretty moot because there is no way of knowing if you'd actually be lynched or if a GB wagon or RSo wagon wouldve picked back up. But the pile up of votes does seem pretty weird, unless scum really just gave up on defending you and decided to bus, which I do think is possible cuz of ur play, or unless Damdred was scum and CCd to save you but no offense, I don't think he'd find you worth doing that for.

Um, no. Am I the only one who thinks that statement is inaccurate? I thought Marv would be considered our most active townie, not RSo, seeing as RSo was suspected scum by some and Marv is almost universally TR.

that's nit picking, he surely meant that rsoultin have the most posts in the game



Not nit picking. It might have been nit picking if it was someone else but Marv has a sizeable filter, reads and a case on RSo and cool chose to call him irrelevant instead of giving a read on him. So he's ignoring another active big filter but towning RSo for it.


so honestly when you first brought this up i figured eh...to expect a new player to go through marv's past games is kinda ridonculous and he didn't actually say he would

then he went through mine, so i get where you're coming from with this

tbf though, i don't actually find it particularly scummy to concentrate on lynch wagons and try to push for consolidation rather than going every which way? like maybe i'm reading it wrong, but calling marv irrelevant when you're pushing for consolidation makes sense in that context (not in a general one)

am i making sense?

his certainty on me is the offputting thing, really


Right. I didn't even pick on it too much until I saw him do the exact same for you. And although he didn't specifically say he would, his post was along the lines of "if Marv is good in past town games, he could be scum here", implying Marv wasn't good at the time which implies he could be scum. If you're hunting scum and that crosses your mind, it would make sense that he'd actually look into whether town Marv is good in past games.

It makes sense if he was looking to consolidate but he defended your townread way more than he pushed GB and rayn, his scumreads.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
October 01 2015 20:58 GMT
#2693
On October 02 2015 05:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
My filter that contains the cases on who i think is scum;
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/494873-battle-of-the-drams-mafia?user=raynpelikoneet&page=16
starts from ~half of that page (N1).

coolnamedude is mafia.
rsoultin is mafia.
LighntningStrike is mafia

in that order of confidence.

MoosyDoosy could be mafia if one of them magically happens to flip town.

I literally do not believe there is any chance for anyone else in this game to be mafia.


I'd rather lynch moosydoosy before LS
I'm adorable.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
October 01 2015 21:00 GMT
#2694
On October 02 2015 05:40 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2015 05:37 The Shining wrote:
On October 02 2015 05:24 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 02 2015 05:17 The Shining wrote:
On October 01 2015 11:27 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Also, coolTLname, I hope you realize rsoul was in no way confirmed town? At the start, she was as ambiguous as usual, and it took my shit fight with her to understand exactly what she was looking into. After that, she acted really scummy by changing reads for no reason which several people picked up on including me. Obviously both rayn and marv were too dense to listen to her explanation afterwards, but your unwavering support for her is really, really out of place.


OK calling rayn and Marv too dense to listen to her explanation after saying you picked up on her changing reads and found it scummy implies you agreed with the scumread but then listened to her explanation and believed it. Is this true?

If so, what's your current read on RSo?

town because coolTL spewed her as it.


OK so town because coolTL spewed her as it but for no other reason? In a twisted world where cool flips town (I don't think he will but bare with me), what happens to that read? What about what I asked you regarding her explanation for her change in reads? Before cool spewed her town, did you think she was town?

Ok read progression?
I didn't understand what she was saying at the start of the thread so I pushed her for it. I was satisfied with her explanations and then town read her. Then she made a weird change in her reads and I scum read her for it while marv/rayn pushed her. I was satisfied with her explanations and then town read her. Then she did another weird read change with GB and now has practically no direction which is a scum trait from her. So my read on her is currently deteriorating from town. However, I still hold that coolTL will flip scum and spew her town.

In the case that doesn't happen I'll have to re-read the game again although I think I have a good idea as to where to look.


Yeah you picked up on that I was asking for. Read progression. So you've flipped back and forth between town and scum on her a bunch of times. That's questionable, since I know scum has a hard time pushing and maintaining scumreads.

Can you answer my post regarding the vote and train?
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
October 01 2015 21:01 GMT
#2695
On October 02 2015 05:43 MoosyDoosy wrote:
As I've explained for multiple times now, this is around the time that I head home so I will do so.


Oh right OK see ya when ya get home, ill be here pretty much all day lol
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
October 01 2015 21:02 GMT
#2696
On October 02 2015 05:52 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2015 05:50 The Shining wrote:
On October 02 2015 05:48 The Shining wrote:
On October 02 2015 05:37 LightningStrike wrote:
I mainly want to lynch MD mainly because some of his arguments actually not making much sense and he lied too on some of his posts.


This is true so far but can you elaborate on which points don't make sense?


Like are you sheeping thread sentiment like Moosy said or do you have examples of the lies and what doesn't make sense to you?

Mainly his arguments vs Rels it just doesn't make much sense at all esp when Rels had proved that MD had lied on some parts. I will go more into detail about it when I get home if I still alive.


Wait what. Yeah lets talk when you get home, too. You can start by explaining why you think you're at risk of being NKd when we have a few strong townread and a living blue claim. That's just weird.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 01 2015 21:03 GMT
#2697
If i die i actually expect people to go read my filter and what i say.
Don't be newbies / forget everything dead townies say like in NSM game.
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Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
October 01 2015 21:07 GMT
#2698
On October 02 2015 06:02 The Shining wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2015 05:52 LightningStrike wrote:
On October 02 2015 05:50 The Shining wrote:
On October 02 2015 05:48 The Shining wrote:
On October 02 2015 05:37 LightningStrike wrote:
I mainly want to lynch MD mainly because some of his arguments actually not making much sense and he lied too on some of his posts.


This is true so far but can you elaborate on which points don't make sense?


Like are you sheeping thread sentiment like Moosy said or do you have examples of the lies and what doesn't make sense to you?

Mainly his arguments vs Rels it just doesn't make much sense at all esp when Rels had proved that MD had lied on some parts. I will go more into detail about it when I get home if I still alive.


Wait what. Yeah lets talk when you get home, too. You can start by explaining why you think you're at risk of being NKd when we have a few strong townread and a living blue claim. That's just weird.
But he is at risk of being night killed!

raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 01 2015 21:08 GMT
#2699
Like literally, for anyone with any sort of clue on what has happened in this game this post:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/494873-battle-of-the-drams-mafia?page=131#2604
..and what happened after that should be a no-brainer.

I don't care to argue with rsoultin about this;
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/494873-battle-of-the-drams-mafia?page=126#2519
i hope you read it with keeping in your mind what ACTUALLY happened in the game at those times.

My case on LS is here:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/494873-battle-of-the-drams-mafia?page=125#2481
you have to read some posts (maybe ~2 pages) prior to this post to understand what i am talking about.

If you remember nothing else about this game after deadline, remember this post.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
October 01 2015 21:10 GMT
#2700
I don't care talking about Moosy myself atm, because i am way more convinced that the other three people are mafia. Also other people are doing it already, and we can't all be dead after N1. They will probably remember what they posted aswell.
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