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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
September 30 2015 20:17 GMT
#2021
GB's Damdred read bugs me to fuck.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
September 30 2015 20:17 GMT
#2022
Just woke up again let me catch up
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
September 30 2015 20:17 GMT
#2023
When me and rayn were mafia (i already mentioned this) he spammed the qt about how bad i was playing but he never bussed. ( also i got nominated for best scum fu rayn!
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
September 30 2015 20:17 GMT
#2024
On October 01 2015 05:16 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2015 05:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 01 2015 05:13 marvellosity wrote:
On October 01 2015 03:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You know what Moosy. If i am wrong on J Roc on D2 and he flips town you can lynch me on D3 no questions asked.
I am 60% sheeping marv here, 40% because of my own read on rsoultin after i started actually paying attention to her posts. I am egoistic enough to trust my own read more than marv's, but i am also good enough to know that it is less likely that he is wrong on D1 than i am, when he is town, which he totally is. When he feels about something this strongly on D1 then he is town, and most likely right. Whatever i say doesn't make the lynch go "where i want to". Just because he is the only player i consider better than i am and for the fact that people are already retarded enough to not see what i see (marv included rofl).

So yeah, i don't really have much to say about this.
I think rsoultin is mafia.
I think J Roc is mafia.
I DEFINITELY NOT THINK GB is mafia.
coolnamedude is probably the third scum.

I don't care about him much atm, just because i can't lynch more than person / day -> see above.

i'm not sure this is really true tbh

i trust your d1 reads above mine

i am honest i didn't know that.

certainly this year

i'm getting heebie jeebies. i could lynch scott with you if you're so sure.

almost feels like if rsoultin is mafia she deserves to live for managing to post 20 pages of filter on d1...

well this J Roc guy is scum and i am not voting for anyone other than him or rsoultin.
Your pick.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
September 30 2015 20:19 GMT
#2025
On October 01 2015 05:17 sicklucker wrote:
When me and rayn were mafia (i already mentioned this) he spammed the qt about how bad i was playing but he never bussed. ( also i got nominated for best scum fu rayn!

You actually "claimed mafia" quite early in the game but unlike Palmar i didn't point that out because i had other shit to talk about instead.
table for two on a tv tray
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
September 30 2015 20:19 GMT
#2026
On October 01 2015 05:16 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2015 05:13 rsoultin wrote:
On October 01 2015 05:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 01 2015 05:07 rsoultin wrote:
i do think scott could be mafia but i know that i tend to read him mafia and i don't have strong reasons for it really so i'm not trying to push him over gb. maybe i "should" do it if i'm town, but i'm going to push what i feel strongest about and your toneread just isn't enough to throw my gb read out the window?

I don't care about the read on scott.
My read on J Roc is 100%.

Apparently you have totally dismissed that.


your j roc read just wasn't really convincing me? you do buss. the unnecessary thing is subjective...so while i get why you think that statement is wrong and i agree for the most part, i can also see where someone would come to that conclusion without their being mafia for it



rayn would never put pressure on me like that for no reason at the start of day one. from that we both called bullshit. he might bus but hes not gonna start bussing from 1 hour in on my first posts. It was total bs. im not sure why me and rayn have been paired up by both newbs/smurfs when were never a team the way he treated me at the start of the game


if you both were town you mean?

like i do 100% get why what j roc claimed was eh

but i don't really see why that necessarily makes him mafia? it makes him wrong

i dunnae why i'm even arguing this cause i don't have a townread on j roc/scott i'm just not sure why y'all are so certain @.@
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
September 30 2015 20:19 GMT
#2027
On October 01 2015 05:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2015 05:16 marvellosity wrote:
On October 01 2015 05:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 01 2015 05:13 marvellosity wrote:
On October 01 2015 03:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You know what Moosy. If i am wrong on J Roc on D2 and he flips town you can lynch me on D3 no questions asked.
I am 60% sheeping marv here, 40% because of my own read on rsoultin after i started actually paying attention to her posts. I am egoistic enough to trust my own read more than marv's, but i am also good enough to know that it is less likely that he is wrong on D1 than i am, when he is town, which he totally is. When he feels about something this strongly on D1 then he is town, and most likely right. Whatever i say doesn't make the lynch go "where i want to". Just because he is the only player i consider better than i am and for the fact that people are already retarded enough to not see what i see (marv included rofl).

So yeah, i don't really have much to say about this.
I think rsoultin is mafia.
I think J Roc is mafia.
I DEFINITELY NOT THINK GB is mafia.
coolnamedude is probably the third scum.

I don't care about him much atm, just because i can't lynch more than person / day -> see above.

i'm not sure this is really true tbh

i trust your d1 reads above mine

i am honest i didn't know that.

certainly this year

i'm getting heebie jeebies. i could lynch scott with you if you're so sure.

almost feels like if rsoultin is mafia she deserves to live for managing to post 20 pages of filter on d1...

well this J Roc guy is scum and i am not voting for anyone other than him or rsoultin.
Your pick.

we can do it. i'm feeling weak and my lack of confidence from the last 6 months or so is catching up with me xD

have you read/evaluated scott's posts at all?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
September 30 2015 20:19 GMT
#2028
I always claim scum even when im not tho
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
September 30 2015 20:20 GMT
#2029
On October 01 2015 05:19 rsoultin wrote:
but i don't really see why that necessarily makes him mafia? it makes him wrong

it makes him fucking mafia because he is a smurf who is actually capable of playing this game and at least claims he knows me very well.
table for two on a tv tray
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
September 30 2015 20:20 GMT
#2030
On October 01 2015 05:19 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2015 05:16 sicklucker wrote:
On October 01 2015 05:13 rsoultin wrote:
On October 01 2015 05:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 01 2015 05:07 rsoultin wrote:
i do think scott could be mafia but i know that i tend to read him mafia and i don't have strong reasons for it really so i'm not trying to push him over gb. maybe i "should" do it if i'm town, but i'm going to push what i feel strongest about and your toneread just isn't enough to throw my gb read out the window?

I don't care about the read on scott.
My read on J Roc is 100%.

Apparently you have totally dismissed that.


your j roc read just wasn't really convincing me? you do buss. the unnecessary thing is subjective...so while i get why you think that statement is wrong and i agree for the most part, i can also see where someone would come to that conclusion without their being mafia for it



rayn would never put pressure on me like that for no reason at the start of day one. from that we both called bullshit. he might bus but hes not gonna start bussing from 1 hour in on my first posts. It was total bs. im not sure why me and rayn have been paired up by both newbs/smurfs when were never a team the way he treated me at the start of the game


if you both were town you mean?


like i do 100% get why what j roc claimed was eh

but i don't really see why that necessarily makes him mafia? it makes him wrong

i dunnae why i'm even arguing this cause i don't have a townread on j roc/scott i'm just not sure why y'all are so certain @.@


i mean i just smurfed as mafia. what i did was alot like what jroc did. make alot of bullshit up. Everypost he made was complete crap. Its really easy to spout nonsense when no one knows who you are
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
September 30 2015 20:21 GMT
#2031
On October 01 2015 05:19 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2015 05:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 01 2015 05:16 marvellosity wrote:
On October 01 2015 05:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 01 2015 05:13 marvellosity wrote:
On October 01 2015 03:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You know what Moosy. If i am wrong on J Roc on D2 and he flips town you can lynch me on D3 no questions asked.
I am 60% sheeping marv here, 40% because of my own read on rsoultin after i started actually paying attention to her posts. I am egoistic enough to trust my own read more than marv's, but i am also good enough to know that it is less likely that he is wrong on D1 than i am, when he is town, which he totally is. When he feels about something this strongly on D1 then he is town, and most likely right. Whatever i say doesn't make the lynch go "where i want to". Just because he is the only player i consider better than i am and for the fact that people are already retarded enough to not see what i see (marv included rofl).

So yeah, i don't really have much to say about this.
I think rsoultin is mafia.
I think J Roc is mafia.
I DEFINITELY NOT THINK GB is mafia.
coolnamedude is probably the third scum.

I don't care about him much atm, just because i can't lynch more than person / day -> see above.

i'm not sure this is really true tbh

i trust your d1 reads above mine

i am honest i didn't know that.

certainly this year

i'm getting heebie jeebies. i could lynch scott with you if you're so sure.

almost feels like if rsoultin is mafia she deserves to live for managing to post 20 pages of filter on d1...

well this J Roc guy is scum and i am not voting for anyone other than him or rsoultin.
Your pick.

we can do it. i'm feeling weak and my lack of confidence from the last 6 months or so is catching up with me xD

have you read/evaluated scott's posts at all?

not really. i have read them but there is pretty much nothing interesting in there.
table for two on a tv tray
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
September 30 2015 20:21 GMT
#2032
Ya and he claimed to know me too
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
September 30 2015 20:21 GMT
#2033
On October 01 2015 05:16 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2015 05:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 01 2015 05:13 marvellosity wrote:
On October 01 2015 03:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You know what Moosy. If i am wrong on J Roc on D2 and he flips town you can lynch me on D3 no questions asked.
I am 60% sheeping marv here, 40% because of my own read on rsoultin after i started actually paying attention to her posts. I am egoistic enough to trust my own read more than marv's, but i am also good enough to know that it is less likely that he is wrong on D1 than i am, when he is town, which he totally is. When he feels about something this strongly on D1 then he is town, and most likely right. Whatever i say doesn't make the lynch go "where i want to". Just because he is the only player i consider better than i am and for the fact that people are already retarded enough to not see what i see (marv included rofl).

So yeah, i don't really have much to say about this.
I think rsoultin is mafia.
I think J Roc is mafia.
I DEFINITELY NOT THINK GB is mafia.
coolnamedude is probably the third scum.

I don't care about him much atm, just because i can't lynch more than person / day -> see above.

i'm not sure this is really true tbh

i trust your d1 reads above mine

i am honest i didn't know that.

certainly this year

i'm getting heebie jeebies. i could lynch scott with you if you're so sure.

almost feels like if rsoultin is mafia she deserves to live for managing to post 20 pages of filter on d1...


eh i dunnae if this means anything honestly i think i'm the most likely of anyone on this site to be capable of that

but it should be clear that i was trying to find scum for the last several hours and trying to make reads while being bashed constantly, and that should make me town to anyone. i hope it does.

cause if this continues tomorrow maybe it's better that y'all just lynch me; i won't be able to keep it up i can tell you now, and i can't work this way
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
September 30 2015 20:21 GMT
#2034
i wish i could just shoot this coolTLname guy because he adds nothing and i have no fucking idea what to do with him
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
September 30 2015 20:22 GMT
#2035
Well one thing that is good for GB is that he thinks trufel could be town but doesn't jump on RS even if he could be lynched.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
September 30 2015 20:22 GMT
#2036
On October 01 2015 05:21 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 01 2015 05:16 marvellosity wrote:
On October 01 2015 05:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 01 2015 05:13 marvellosity wrote:
On October 01 2015 03:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You know what Moosy. If i am wrong on J Roc on D2 and he flips town you can lynch me on D3 no questions asked.
I am 60% sheeping marv here, 40% because of my own read on rsoultin after i started actually paying attention to her posts. I am egoistic enough to trust my own read more than marv's, but i am also good enough to know that it is less likely that he is wrong on D1 than i am, when he is town, which he totally is. When he feels about something this strongly on D1 then he is town, and most likely right. Whatever i say doesn't make the lynch go "where i want to". Just because he is the only player i consider better than i am and for the fact that people are already retarded enough to not see what i see (marv included rofl).

So yeah, i don't really have much to say about this.
I think rsoultin is mafia.
I think J Roc is mafia.
I DEFINITELY NOT THINK GB is mafia.
coolnamedude is probably the third scum.

I don't care about him much atm, just because i can't lynch more than person / day -> see above.

i'm not sure this is really true tbh

i trust your d1 reads above mine

i am honest i didn't know that.

certainly this year

i'm getting heebie jeebies. i could lynch scott with you if you're so sure.

almost feels like if rsoultin is mafia she deserves to live for managing to post 20 pages of filter on d1...


eh i dunnae if this means anything honestly i think i'm the most likely of anyone on this site to be capable of that

but it should be clear that i was trying to find scum for the last several hours and trying to make reads while being bashed constantly, and that should make me town to anyone. i hope it does.

cause if this continues tomorrow maybe it's better that y'all just lynch me; i won't be able to keep it up i can tell you now, and i can't work this way

i'd raise you HF

and you've made a lot a lot alot of posts that don't look horribly shit.

so maybe i should back down here. i dunno.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
September 30 2015 20:23 GMT
#2037
On October 01 2015 05:22 Damdred wrote:
Well one thing that is good for GB is that he thinks trufel could be town but doesn't jump on RS even if he could be lynched.

Jroc/scott

opinions?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
September 30 2015 20:23 GMT
#2038
acualy rstoulin talking for 20 pages and not coming up with any solid reads reminds me of that first game we played as town were it took her 6 day to lynch the confirmed mafia hf
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
September 30 2015 20:23 GMT
#2039
On October 01 2015 04:54 coolTLname wrote:
marv is irrelevant at the moment, so i have not checked yet.

die in a fire
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
September 30 2015 20:23 GMT
#2040
i'd prefer gb but i'll lynch scott? you could be right about the smurf; scott's posts bug me more than j roc's do, though. i'm just not sure if it's because i'm biased or not

i don't really have anything else to say about this
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
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