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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 12 2015 10:44 GMT
#822
On October 12 2015 06:09 Fecalfeast wrote:
So I'm not reading the whole wall of text and just looking for my name.


...


Why am I trying to get both of my partners killed, shining?

Icky post. Unless you're assuming Shining thinks he has the scumteam nailed halfway through day 1, which I can't seriously think you think.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 12 2015 10:51 GMT
#823
On October 12 2015 07:58 Eversince wrote:
How much more clear can I possibly make myself?
You've been gone for 'extended period of time'
You post very, very very! generic reads that literally have nothin' new to add to the game.
I then prod you about it.
You get super upset that I did that and proceed to drive burnin' cattle prod's down on my back.
and you still are.

For no reason. It's so damned much bloody work that you can't talk to me for an hour?
No? That's far to much. You can, however, waste an hour plus fightin' over nothin' with me just to cluster the thread.

Bleh. This guy is obviously scum. I want to lynch him.

##vote The Shining

no no no no no
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 12 2015 10:53 GMT
#824
Eversince, people who piss you off are mostly going to be town.

And I felt Shining's complaints at you were legitimate. You started off with criticisms without a base, and then you did a really poor job of explaining what those criticisms were supposed to be. I'd be annoyed in his shoes too.

The Shining already looks massively different to last game where I came to the conclusion he was probably mafia at the end of day 1.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 12 2015 10:57 GMT
#825
On October 12 2015 08:17 Vivax wrote:
ObviousOne posts very clean and almost too thought out for my taste, I remember reading him correctly as town when he got mislynched last time we played together, I don't know which game it was anymore though. I managed to get that read when he was in the process of trying to stop the lynch.

yes. aloof commentary.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 12 2015 11:01 GMT
#826
On October 12 2015 09:13 Fecalfeast wrote:
OO's recent posts are good and I like them.

##unvote
##vote marvellosity


might as well lynch the obvious... one wait that wasn't intentional


shining you just called me out for saying moosey bused his whole team, then you say that mafia's wincon is to survive? By that logic, town's wincon is also to survive because if enough townies die the game ends...

what exactly do you like about them?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 12 2015 11:05 GMT
#827
On October 12 2015 10:20 MoosyDoosy wrote:
marv will turn up and he won't be too happy with the votes on him. I think it'll be interesting to see his reaction though.

I'm keeping my vote on ObviousOne for now and I'll clean up a case later.

my reaction is that i'd expect mafia to steer clear of voting for me, but i'm not sure about it
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 12 2015 11:12 GMT
#828
On October 12 2015 11:52 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2015 11:47 Eversince wrote:
Bear with me also. I was super mad earlier. I took a rest, still wakin' up from it.
Will catch up, but it might take me a min'.

Hello Eversince. May I convince you for a Shining lynch?

your push is at best shit and at worst scummy
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 12 2015 11:14 GMT
#829
On October 12 2015 12:06 The Shining wrote:
Case 10/10 best case 2015. Pls lynch the actively lurking Moosy after I flip town pls and thx

you're never getting lynched here, silly
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 12 2015 11:17 GMT
#830
On October 12 2015 12:19 Fecalfeast wrote:
I mean, don't get me wrong, I like where your case is going moose. Shining's explanation of marv's meta being damning but his weak read on me being based on this game isn't terrible.

I don't like the rage coming from him though. IDK people say getting mad is a towny thing but I disagree

no, you shouldn't. I think this is like the third time you've said things that make me vom internally.

##Vote: Fecalfeast

I'll flesh this out when I've finished reading (and probably done some work). No guarantees I won't change my mind
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 12 2015 11:20 GMT
#831
On October 12 2015 12:47 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2015 12:40 -Celestial- wrote:
On October 12 2015 11:52 Eversince wrote:
On October 12 2015 10:27 -Celestial- wrote:
On October 12 2015 10:23 The Shining wrote:
On October 12 2015 10:18 -Celestial- wrote:
On October 12 2015 10:17 MoosyDoosy wrote:
-Celestial-, are you a boy or girl? Sorry if you answered this earlier.


I'm a boy. But I'm not too bothered what people refer to me as. X-D


Oops my b


Don't worry about it. I bet I'd look great in a frilly dress anyway, so call me what you want.


I got this cute little black summer dress from the shop. I bet you'd look spiffy in it!


Hey...you're going to make me blush.


Anyway...to play devil's advocate here a bit I have one question to ask about this case against Shining: to what end? What would be the point of Shining's play here? Marv is totally dead in the water. He's not here. He might even get modkilled or replaced if he's not back in time to vote. Its a very, very easy bus to get on as mafia and if he's really not about he's not worth going out of your way to save...better to get the towncred for being on a correct lynch and let everyone WIFOM all over the VCA during night time.

What's the best case scenario here for scumShining and scumMarv with that play? Shining gets FF mislynched and marv either comes back or gets replaced. But because Shining was central to the FF lynch he's under heavy scrutiny and marv (or replacement) is under equal suspicion for doing bugger all for most of D1. They end up as top two high-priority lynch candidates for D2 and when one flips red I think the next gets lynched the day after. Its a hugely risky play.

I mean correct my logic if I'm wrong here, by all means. If you're all certain I guess I'll review Shining's filter tomorrow before the deadline.


I have to go to bed in a minute, its approaching 5am here. We got just over 21 hours before the vote ends by my reckoning so...we'll see what happens. Also a vote count would be great about now so we can see where we are.

If both Shining and marv are scum, this is a great way for scum!Shining to set up a vote switch onto scum!marv as a bus, especially since marv is away.

But WIFOM and speculation like this is practically impossible to figure out so I don't like to use it. It also doesn't deny the fact that Shining contradicted himself at least 3 times with his statements.

no this would be the absolute worst way for Shining to deal with it. how can you possibly think this???
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 12 2015 11:21 GMT
#832
Moosy and FF both feeling scummy for this Shining stuff, but it seems kinda unlikely that they'd hard align over the same poor case if they were both mafia. hrmz
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 12 2015 11:23 GMT
#833
On October 12 2015 13:59 sicklucker wrote:
like marv will probably come into the thread with 1 hour and try to get someone lynched like me. But the tell is marv is only going to enter the thread when its convenient for him not when its convenient for town. Hes avoided this thread like the plague. That is if his teams not like gummy bear and vivax then hes probably already conceded.

what now?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 12 2015 11:30 GMT
#834
Alright I caught up. People on both end of the spectrum.

Town:
Eversince. Not gonna 'splain
The Shining. If this guy is the same alignment as the game I just played with him I'm gonna eat my hat.

Celestial (less sure but still happy with it). Mainly because how he talked about me really. Also how he talked about the Shining stuff.

Suspicious/mafia/something:

Moosy: His play already seemed less... exuberant than I'm used to, and it reads to me that he's latched on to a contradiction that isn't really a contradiction from the Shining, and even if it was a contradiction it's not really a contradiction that makes any sense or has any particular mafia motivation for him. It's a case for the sake of a case.
Fecalfeast: For agreeing with the above case and has made a few comments that don't make sense to me (liking OO's posts for example)
ObviousOne: A horrendous words:actual contributions ratio

And a whole bunch of people in the middle that I have some observations on that I'm not that set on. For example Onegu's posts read quite townie for me, but I think he's capable of them as mafia. The way Vivax is thinking/observing in his posts makes me think town when I read them, but at the same time he's not as involved (teehee) as I'd expect a town-Vivax to be, also he seems to be handling me from a distance or not handling me at all.

This is surprising because Vivax loves a chance to lynch marvypoos
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 12 2015 11:31 GMT
#835
gumdrop total p-lynch obviously
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 12 2015 11:39 GMT
#836
sorry I know I'm just posting to myself right now and spamming up the thread a bit.

To explain what i just said about Vivax - as town I'd expect him to be much more gung-ho about trying to lynch me, because lynching me (or more accurately, trying to lynch me) is fun.

If he is mafia he knows my alignment and would think twice about being so gung-ho about it because we have a long history and knows there's a good chance he would receive my ire for doing so and that he would never get me lynched
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 12 2015 13:14 GMT
#839
On October 12 2015 22:01 MoosyDoosy wrote:
How is the stuff on Shining weak? He's contradicted himself at least 3 times there.

no, he says he understands the meta arguments against me and that they are strong and "logically" a stronger case, but he trusts his own gut on FF more.

ta-da.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 12 2015 13:14 GMT
#840
unless you desperately think he's protecting me as his scumbuddy in which case you would also have to be calling him a moron
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 12 2015 13:49 GMT
#844
On October 12 2015 22:48 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2015 22:14 marvellosity wrote:
On October 12 2015 22:01 MoosyDoosy wrote:
How is the stuff on Shining weak? He's contradicted himself at least 3 times there.

no, he says he understands the meta arguments against me and that they are strong and "logically" a stronger case, but he trusts his own gut on FF more.

ta-da.

He said he's voting for FF off of reasons that he thinks he made but he admittedly said were weakened by OO and FF's counterarguments.

so?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 12 2015 14:00 GMT
#847
On October 12 2015 22:51 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2015 22:49 marvellosity wrote:
On October 12 2015 22:48 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 12 2015 22:14 marvellosity wrote:
On October 12 2015 22:01 MoosyDoosy wrote:
How is the stuff on Shining weak? He's contradicted himself at least 3 times there.

no, he says he understands the meta arguments against me and that they are strong and "logically" a stronger case, but he trusts his own gut on FF more.

ta-da.

He said he's voting for FF off of reasons that he thinks he made but he admittedly said were weakened by OO and FF's counterarguments.

so?

It makes no sense. If he thinks a wagon is going to show scum, then why didn't he push for that wagon or even vote for it. Instead he sets up a potential vote switch and basically fences himself between two wagons which is what scum wants to do.

or a townie can think 2 people are scummy?

Just finished looking through OO's filter and it was better than I remembered while reading through the game. The commentary style / walls-of-text about self make me pretty uneasy though. He votes for Kels and spends an awful lot of text afterwards where he never mentions KSC again except asking sl about him. It's tempting to scum him for obsession with his own appearance but it seems he thinks the same way as town, so nyeh.

waffle waffle
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 12 2015 14:07 GMT
#849
On October 12 2015 23:02 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2015 23:00 marvellosity wrote:
On October 12 2015 22:51 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 12 2015 22:49 marvellosity wrote:
On October 12 2015 22:48 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On October 12 2015 22:14 marvellosity wrote:
On October 12 2015 22:01 MoosyDoosy wrote:
How is the stuff on Shining weak? He's contradicted himself at least 3 times there.

no, he says he understands the meta arguments against me and that they are strong and "logically" a stronger case, but he trusts his own gut on FF more.

ta-da.

He said he's voting for FF off of reasons that he thinks he made but he admittedly said were weakened by OO and FF's counterarguments.

so?

It makes no sense. If he thinks a wagon is going to show scum, then why didn't he push for that wagon or even vote for it. Instead he sets up a potential vote switch and basically fences himself between two wagons which is what scum wants to do.

or a townie can think 2 people are scummy?

Just finished looking through OO's filter and it was better than I remembered while reading through the game. The commentary style / walls-of-text about self make me pretty uneasy though. He votes for Kels and spends an awful lot of text afterwards where he never mentions KSC again except asking sl about him. It's tempting to scum him for obsession with his own appearance but it seems he thinks the same way as town, so nyeh.

waffle waffle

If you admit the points you made against someone are now weak and say that someone is a better lynch, why would you not switch your vote to that person?

why would you not as mafia when you're hyper-aware of your own image?

what mafia says (in your world) - "this dude has a higher chance of flipping mafia but i'm totes not voting him right now?" - it's such a shallow way to think
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