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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 16 2015 20:17 GMT
#661
Like at some point i thought LS is town because he said shit i thought was townie but when i now look at it closer it feels like he is just taking a re-route instead of answering people's concerns straight up.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
September 16 2015 20:23 GMT
#662
I here and got out of class early and I been trying to answer people's concerns straight up to the best of my ability rayn. Plus I take you over Vivax because I can't remember much of Vivax other than he's the Martyr because no one cced him. We don't want him to have it because if he dies when he got it than we lose it for the rest of the game I think if I read the op correctly.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 16 2015 20:25 GMT
#663
On September 17 2015 05:23 LightningStrike wrote:
I here and got out of class early and I been trying to answer people's concerns straight up to the best of my ability rayn. Plus I take you over Vivax because I can't remember much of Vivax other than he's the Martyr because no one cced him. We don't want him to have it because if he dies when he got it than we lose it for the rest of the game I think if I read the op correctly.

okay. if you are sure i am town and you are right why would i not die?
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
September 16 2015 20:27 GMT
#664
On September 17 2015 05:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2015 05:23 LightningStrike wrote:
I here and got out of class early and I been trying to answer people's concerns straight up to the best of my ability rayn. Plus I take you over Vivax because I can't remember much of Vivax other than he's the Martyr because no one cced him. We don't want him to have it because if he dies when he got it than we lose it for the rest of the game I think if I read the op correctly.

okay. if you are sure i am town and you are right why would i not die?

Angel save assuming Vivax dies from the soup. Also I just checked the op about the timing of the lynch and it's 72 hour days so tomorrow is the deadline so that is a relief for me so I can be here tomorrow at deadline
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 16 2015 20:29 GMT
#665
On September 17 2015 05:27 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2015 05:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 17 2015 05:23 LightningStrike wrote:
I here and got out of class early and I been trying to answer people's concerns straight up to the best of my ability rayn. Plus I take you over Vivax because I can't remember much of Vivax other than he's the Martyr because no one cced him. We don't want him to have it because if he dies when he got it than we lose it for the rest of the game I think if I read the op correctly.

okay. if you are sure i am town and you are right why would i not die?

Angel save assuming Vivax dies from the soup. Also I just checked the op about the timing of the lynch and it's 72 hour days so tomorrow is the deadline so that is a relief for me so I can be here tomorrow at deadline

okay. why do you assume we lynch town D1?
table for two on a tv tray
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
September 16 2015 20:30 GMT
#666
Well fuck it, if Damdred isn't even going to read the threat but continue pushing a meta read, then I'm not gonna bother fully catching up.

Damdred is right in the sense that I get emotional as town, but this mostly stems from being scummed for stupid reasons. As I said before, I've gotten used to it from it happening literally every single D1 so it kind of makes sense that he sees it that way, since normally I'd be gunning for Rels for scumming me.

But he's wrong in saying we've played 60-90 games together when I haven't played that many in my entire life, since we've only played on one other forum besides this one, and I've got around 10 total here. Also, that other forum is much more inactive and no one really plays seriously so basing anything off of that meta is stupid. And how do you have such a wide range between 60 & 90? 60-70 would've sounded more believable but 60-90 really sounds like he's just throwing numbers out there to try and strengthen his meta read.

Damdred also knows I'm actually in therapy since I blew up at him and a few other friends in a group chat over a different game. The fact he didn't confirm that is weird to me, since I admitted it after going ape shit on him and almost ended our friendship

And how the hell do you claim to be a strong town player and then do fuck all for almost 48 hrs.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
Fidei86
Profile Joined May 2015
United Kingdom2116 Posts
September 16 2015 20:31 GMT
#667
On September 17 2015 05:27 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2015 05:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 17 2015 05:23 LightningStrike wrote:
I here and got out of class early and I been trying to answer people's concerns straight up to the best of my ability rayn. Plus I take you over Vivax because I can't remember much of Vivax other than he's the Martyr because no one cced him. We don't want him to have it because if he dies when he got it than we lose it for the rest of the game I think if I read the op correctly.

okay. if you are sure i am town and you are right why would i not die?

Angel save assuming Vivax dies from the soup. Also I just checked the op about the timing of the lynch and it's 72 hour days so tomorrow is the deadline so that is a relief for me so I can be here tomorrow at deadline

@LS I'm pretty sure it's either or with the soup.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
September 16 2015 20:36 GMT
#668
On September 16 2015 17:03 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2015 04:40 The Shining wrote:
I'm here. Post will probably be sloppy because I'm writing as I'm catching up.

On September 15 2015 18:34 Rels wrote:
Going to grab some lunch so I'll be AFK until later. Here is my brain right now:

Town
rayn
Vivax
TT

Maybe town
Damdred
geript

Null
FF
HTS
fidei
BM

Maybe scum
Dandel Ion

Scum
The Shining
LS

See you all later (=


This post is so easy to make. I said I don't get on much Monday/Tuesday and the game started slow while I was on, with almost no one posting. I'm almost always scummed D1 because I don't like to play it but w.e, I'm used to it. I started the holy grail convo because no one was talking about anything else and I figured the sooner we settle on it, the more info we'd get from people trying to push for it for strange reasons. Better to discuss it now than leave it until the last 12-24h of day phase.

WTF
My reason to scumread you was NOT you being AFK or wanting to discuss something different. I had three reasons to scumread you and they are explained here:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2015 16:34 Rels wrote:
On September 15 2015 07:38 The Shining wrote:
Hi hi. Are people just scared to post or what? I'm not the martyr so Idk what else to do except start the conversation on the Holy Grail vote.

Who is it going to?

I dislike this post very much for a few reasons. The main one is that this is the first post of The Shining, and there is two different subjects in it:
"The game is slow"
"Let's talk about the holy grail"
First post with different subjects in them means the person didn't just post what he thought, but took the time to make a post. It is scum indicative.

Plus, two questions: the easy way to participate for scum.
Plus, he tries to start a conversation and leaves.

Now your big post is alright, and I like the reasonning on Damdred. But your reasonning (Damdred applied for grail and gtfo) is one of the reasons I scumread you in the first place!
So. You cannot explain the first two reasons I scumread you initially (different subjects in the first post + asking questions in the first post), they're scum indicative for me. It's small though.
Can you explain the third ? How is you starting a conversation on grail then leaving is different from Damdred applying for Grail then leaving ?


I already explained that I wanted to see reactions to who actually wanted the Grail that early. The obvious difference is that I wanted to know WHO wanted it and WHY, whereas Damdred just tried to get it for himself for reasons that are bull. Strong town player? Do something to help town. Going to live for days? So either you're scum and won't get NKd or you're just being useless town right now to stay alive, which he's pretty much admitted to being since he isn't reading the thread. And if that's his plan, he had no ground to ask for the grail, anyway.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
September 16 2015 20:37 GMT
#669
Granted I don't realy know you shining, but you're not the person on the forums I'd expect to be in anger management. Idk who I would expect to be there (other than Robik) but eh. Not sure that's a really therapeutic statement but fuck it i'm exhausted.
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
September 16 2015 20:39 GMT
#670
On September 17 2015 05:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2015 05:27 LightningStrike wrote:
On September 17 2015 05:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 17 2015 05:23 LightningStrike wrote:
I here and got out of class early and I been trying to answer people's concerns straight up to the best of my ability rayn. Plus I take you over Vivax because I can't remember much of Vivax other than he's the Martyr because no one cced him. We don't want him to have it because if he dies when he got it than we lose it for the rest of the game I think if I read the op correctly.

okay. if you are sure i am town and you are right why would i not die?

Angel save assuming Vivax dies from the soup. Also I just checked the op about the timing of the lynch and it's 72 hour days so tomorrow is the deadline so that is a relief for me so I can be here tomorrow at deadline

okay. why do you assume we lynch town D1?

I didn't assume Damdred is town is Angel saves work if the people don't get soup killed?
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 16 2015 20:44 GMT
#671
On September 17 2015 05:39 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2015 05:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 17 2015 05:27 LightningStrike wrote:
On September 17 2015 05:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 17 2015 05:23 LightningStrike wrote:
I here and got out of class early and I been trying to answer people's concerns straight up to the best of my ability rayn. Plus I take you over Vivax because I can't remember much of Vivax other than he's the Martyr because no one cced him. We don't want him to have it because if he dies when he got it than we lose it for the rest of the game I think if I read the op correctly.

okay. if you are sure i am town and you are right why would i not die?

Angel save assuming Vivax dies from the soup. Also I just checked the op about the timing of the lynch and it's 72 hour days so tomorrow is the deadline so that is a relief for me so I can be here tomorrow at deadline

okay. why do you assume we lynch town D1?

I didn't assume Damdred is town is Angel saves work if the people don't get soup killed?

If we lycnh mafia on D1 are they gonna angel save me when mafia kills me?
table for two on a tv tray
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
September 16 2015 20:45 GMT
#672
On September 17 2015 05:31 Fidei86 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2015 05:27 LightningStrike wrote:
On September 17 2015 05:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 17 2015 05:23 LightningStrike wrote:
I here and got out of class early and I been trying to answer people's concerns straight up to the best of my ability rayn. Plus I take you over Vivax because I can't remember much of Vivax other than he's the Martyr because no one cced him. We don't want him to have it because if he dies when he got it than we lose it for the rest of the game I think if I read the op correctly.

okay. if you are sure i am town and you are right why would i not die?

Angel save assuming Vivax dies from the soup. Also I just checked the op about the timing of the lynch and it's 72 hour days so tomorrow is the deadline so that is a relief for me so I can be here tomorrow at deadline

@LS I'm pretty sure it's either or with the soup.

Okay I check the op about the soup and if they do soup it's at night and they will lose their kp if I read it correctly.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
September 16 2015 20:45 GMT
#673
Also, to help with the whole meta reading me thing, LS and HtS have been in more than one game with me, as well. Geript played the game I was scum, although he did say Im in some sort of middle ground in between metas. Rels, you may want to directly pressure them to opine on my meta read, since you were the one asking.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
September 16 2015 20:46 GMT
#674
On September 17 2015 05:37 geript wrote:
Granted I don't realy know you shining, but you're not the person on the forums I'd expect to be in anger management. Idk who I would expect to be there (other than Robik) but eh. Not sure that's a really therapeutic statement but fuck it i'm exhausted.


I'm 5 feet 5 inches. They call it Napoleon complex. Lol. 0-100 real quick
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
September 16 2015 20:46 GMT
#675
So with the soup being a night think only and if they use the soup over the kp than we can have the Grail on a Town leader(rayn). If the person who got the Grail dies it leaves the game.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
September 16 2015 20:48 GMT
#676
On September 17 2015 05:45 The Shining wrote:
Also, to help with the whole meta reading me thing, LS and HtS have been in more than one game with me, as well. Geript played the game I was scum, although he did say Im in some sort of middle ground in between metas. Rels, you may want to directly pressure them to opine on my meta read, since you were the one asking.

I will check your scum game and compare it to your town games once I get home since it will be easier for me to do that because of a larger screen on my normal computer.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
September 16 2015 20:48 GMT
#677
On September 17 2015 05:46 LightningStrike wrote:
So with the soup being a night think only and if they use the soup over the kp than we can have the Grail on a Town leader(rayn). If the person who got the Grail dies it leaves the game.

what he fuck you just wanted someone who is NOT going to die to have it-....
table for two on a tv tray
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
September 16 2015 20:51 GMT
#678
I don't think scum would trade their nk for a soup kill N1, with no role to go off of except Vivax. No offense to Vivax but there are stronger townread like Rayn and Rels around. And if they guess a 2nd role and fail, they end up revealing a witch, if I understood the OP correctly
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
September 16 2015 20:51 GMT
#679
On September 17 2015 05:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2015 05:46 LightningStrike wrote:
So with the soup being a night think only and if they use the soup over the kp than we can have the Grail on a Town leader(rayn). If the person who got the Grail dies it leaves the game.

what he fuck you just wanted someone who is NOT going to die to have it-....

I most likely not going to killed unless I dead right on someone's alignment and they see me as the biggest threat but I doubt that myself.We could potentally give it to FF because he normally lives very long despite the fact he got a high winrate if he lives in a long game(idk why most people let him live later in the games lol)
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
September 16 2015 20:52 GMT
#680
On September 17 2015 05:51 The Shining wrote:
I don't think scum would trade their nk for a soup kill N1, with no role to go off of except Vivax. No offense to Vivax but there are stronger townread like Rayn and Rels around. And if they guess a 2nd role and fail, they end up revealing a witch, if I understood the OP correctly

True....
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
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