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On September 15 2015 07:01 geript wrote: I think i want to lynch damdred and palmer. Make it so people. Correction. I know I want to lynch palmAr. I think I want to lynch Damdred. | ||
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Since I'll be busy tomorrow and wednesday with an Interview I should get and ACLS, I might as well explain now. PalmAr becvause he feels all wrong; he's actually taking the game seriously which is a first in a million games (fyi those games he was town). Damdred because bad reads. | ||
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On September 15 2015 07:12 Palmar wrote: That's a bullshit reason. At the time you formed that read on me, I hadn't made even a single post that could be considered an actual serious post. And had you been trolling how you have for the past idk like 5 games? | ||
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On September 15 2015 07:27 Palmar wrote: I don't know. I think so. It generally depends on if I'm around or not. Do you still think I'm mafia? Yep. | ||
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On September 15 2015 08:21 raynpelikoneet wrote: Okay so why do you disagree with: ritoky town rayn town palmar town geript mafia cephiro town ? I'd bet that 3 of these are false. Where's my Greymist points. | ||
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On September 15 2015 08:26 raynpelikoneet wrote: I'd bet that you are 100% wrong with this statement. Can't be worse that 67% though! That's still above average. | ||
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On September 15 2015 08:43 raynpelikoneet wrote: geript i am expecting you to have a read and i am expecting you to tell what it is. Just woke up. Idk what read you expect me to have but moosy is town. | ||
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And here I was expecting your stamina to be far more than that. Clearly you need training. | ||
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On September 15 2015 09:06 Cephiro wrote: Would like you to answer these two (@geript, about moosy): 1) Do you think there is a chance he could be scum? 2) Would you say he's either extremely town or extremely scum, or do you think he can fit somewhere in-between? 1. 100% town 0% scum 2. See 1 | ||
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On September 15 2015 09:12 Cephiro wrote: Gonna bother you for one more, would appreciate if you'd bear answering this also, as it'll help me read into you. Are you saying 100% because you are that confident in being correct about what you're seeing, or would you admit there's a possibility you could be wrong (even if unlikely?). After this I'll be done questioning you for now, thanks. You're not very good at Maths are you? | ||
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On September 15 2015 09:18 Cephiro wrote: I'm quite confident in my math. Considering I study statistics, it'd be sad if I was bad at it. But more relevantly, I'm "double-checking" not because of numbers but the reasoning behind the number. Are you willing to co-operate for one, such a simple question? If you're town, it doesn't really benefit you in the slightest to be an ass because you can or avoid a request as simple as that. So, I'll give you one more chance to address that with a proper answer until I draw my own conclusions of what you say. I'm more than happy to say 80%, 90%, 95% or any other % when I give a read if that's the certainty I have. So I already answered you question. | ||
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On September 15 2015 11:00 raynpelikoneet wrote: I'd still like you to explain which posts of his were super serious when you called him out. Like the post where he claims mafia? or what? I think his serious posts were after I initially called him out. | ||
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On September 15 2015 11:04 raynpelikoneet wrote: oh geez so you now claim your read is literally bullshit in the first place or what? No the initial read was in regards to his opener. On different things really | ||
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On September 15 2015 11:10 raynpelikoneet wrote: On what exactly? Opening post. Like he hasn't opened like that recently | ||
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On September 15 2015 11:21 raynpelikoneet wrote: why does it exactly make him mafia? People have trends in how they play. Other people pick up on those trends. | ||
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You're either wrong on him or you're mafia. and TBH i don't care which. | ||
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You offering? | ||
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On September 15 2015 14:04 Damdred wrote: Oneg I sort of like you so far idk if I should trust myself. And it is annoying that geript isn't interacting with me at all Last time I didn't interact with you, you were mafia and I was town. You got lynched on D2 when I tracked you. Just saying, you might want to start thinking about your night kills. | ||
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1. I'm sheeping Marv today. 2. Rayn is probably town. A few hesitations but eh. 3. I might be wrong on Damdred. After sleeping, I think I might just be really dumb with that read. 4. Moosey is town. What I've seen of his townplay is that Moosy is pretty all over the place in a pretty in effective way while still being rather confident in his reads. The only "questionable" thing so far is his Palmar read. 5. Still don't like Plammar. Otherwise, fiik | ||
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On September 16 2015 00:28 marvellosity wrote: Clear this up for me. How did you write that he was taking things seriously when you admitted that only came after your post? Like I literally want to know what moved you to write those words at that specific time. The thing is, I actually do understand what you're saying about Palmar and why you're saying it (although atm i don't find it significant like you), the read itself isn't nonsense, just the timings of how it played out. what gives? Basic timeline: 1. Palmar Trolls 2. Geript posts to lynch Palmmar 3. Palmar gets serious 4. Geript explains read I've posted this before, but initially what I picked up on was how he was trolling differently to start with. Then he like instantly transformed to be more serious about things. So the thing about the trolling was that how he opened and how he trolled was different than the half a billion games he's done with. He'll play to be not caring, claim mafia, and throughout the trolling give good insightful reads. So when he flipped the script, and went into all serious mode, that's equally damning for me. He's a player who weaves back and forth between seriousness. It's pretty much his schtick. So the dissonance between the two modes and the lack of good Plammar reads in his serious mode which I've been able to find and townread him for in the past few games in the least, really bugged me. Can I say, "I am scum reading him for X and Y?" Yes. But it's pretty pointless to try and push palmar based on not claiming mafia or how he trolls early. Like I'm the only idiot who gives a fuck about that sort of shit. | ||
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On September 16 2015 01:07 Koshi wrote: Geript why are you following marv? That doesnt make any sense. I hope it is a ploy. Because he's a sexy, sexy beast. And because he's town. And because I don't have a real strong townread on any good player outside of him. | ||
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On September 16 2015 01:10 raynpelikoneet wrote: This is a terrible post because if you think marv is surely town you should also think i am surely town. Thinking Marv is town doesn't make you anything... dear. Quite frankly, you haven't done #raynstuffz yet. | ||
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On September 16 2015 01:39 marvellosity wrote: *raises eyebrow* i like what you wrote about palmar. i like less how you've handled damdred and whatever this read is on rayn. the damdred thing feels like you made a mistake last night with how you approached him and decided to go for the full backpedal today. but i'm not sure enough that that has to be the narrative. can you tell me why you were suspicious of him yesterday? Tbh full backpedal feels about right. After catching up 18 pages and thinking about what he had said previous, the previous read felt wrong. It had to do with one of his early reads or reads post. I think on cephiro or something I didn't think made sense for Damdred to make. But tbh I cba to look right now | ||
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On September 16 2015 01:53 marvellosity wrote: back later tonight at some stage. got stuffs on. They better be purple. | ||
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At least it's work but Fml. | ||
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On September 16 2015 06:17 ritoky wrote: I'm a murse too, is there low job demand around you? I am from Seattle and there's huge nurse demand here. Glad you got at least something. No one wants to hire recent grads. That combined with the fact I interview poorly (always have) has made things tough. | ||
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On September 16 2015 06:39 Koshi wrote: You might get the job you wanted if that person really doesn't work out. Yah but it's really not the job I want. I really want to be in OR. It's just that job is the best stepping stone currently. Just frustrating | ||
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Put my vote on palmar for now. | ||
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On September 16 2015 18:47 raynpelikoneet wrote: This WarWaffle guy is hilarious and probably town. Yes likely town | ||
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On September 16 2015 20:51 marvellosity wrote: like i can forgive koshi because he loves ploughing me from behind. it's his secret fetish. Trying to make me jelly? | ||
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It works. But is ok. I'm going to meet an old college ex this weekend. Let's just say I won't be the jelly one come D2 | ||
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I'm busy but I have a tin foil reason to think Rayn mightbbe mafia in coordination w/ how he's pushing stuff. Can you take a second look at Rayn plz. | ||
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You can blame me afterwards if I'm wrong. Idc. But I'm really struggling to townread the people I usually have an easy time reading (Rayn/Damdred). IDc about JAT or Koshi as idk how to read them and cba to think about it currently. But I'm really sure moosy/Tww are both town. I hopefully will be home ~1.5 hr prior to lynch but no promises as if we go long I'll be stck on phone. But please take a look at your reads on each other (I will too when I get back) because I think this lynch is spinning wrong and I can't figure out why I think that. | ||
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On September 16 2015 14:59 TheWarWaffle wrote: Re-evaluating my lynch targets. MoosyDoosy is still in there because everything he says irks me. I have a feeling that the other two mafia are hiding in plain sight, with rayn being a probably godfather if MoosyDoosy flips mafia. Maybe I'm reading too far into the whole obstinate vote thing. I don't like Wile E. Coyote for a lynch target anymore after re-reading his filter. geript is still suspicious but I'm starting to think it's just geript at this point. Part of it was seeing this post when I woke up. It's a thought line I see a bunch from newer town. He had another set of reads that felt very much the same way. It's weak but it's something that I'm usually right on. Also iirc lots of people didn't like his first big reads post. And no one made a huge stink about pushing him for it. Makes me think it's a 'gimme' lynch that scum don't usually like pushing because it's a ML that's likely to happen still but often seen as an easy ML push drawing attention to it. Plus I ml'd him once and I kinda feel bad about it still. | ||
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On September 17 2015 01:21 marvellosity wrote: alright. i will trust you to work it out if/when he is here. when i leave work in ~40 minutes my activity will be very spotty for the evening. i wish we could agree more on moosy or you could find a way to explain things better to me so i get what you're getting at better. Plz marv. Plz just trust me on this read. I tried to in part kinda bs a read on him to explain it slightly. But tbh part of what I've seen of his townplay is an early similarity to how I played town early. Over importance and confidence in his reads/worth to town. That's something that, like Prome said about me once, I think he would have a hard time replicating as scum. | ||
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Maybe just conflating ideas. | ||
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On September 17 2015 04:45 raynpelikoneet wrote: But i am really sure geript is mafia. He is almost definitely mafia. marv is the ONLY player EVER who can accurately read me when i post enough. Even if geript thinks i might be mafia (which he kinda doesn't even do - he says he can't get a read on me), if he thinks marv is mafia he should totally trust marv's read on me. 100%. I'd point out that in the big game where I tracked Damdred, there were lots of people who didn't think it was so. I forget who else was in that game but I think Marv and Palmar were in it. Both of whom I think disagreed w/ me on damdred then too. Me disagreeing on a read with Marv/other strong town reads doesn't make me mafia. I'm more than happy to push what I think is right as town even if I accede to follow their lead on lynches lacking other information. | ||
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On September 17 2015 05:00 ritoky wrote: you got enough time to explain to me why JAT is mafia? I can't read jat worth a fuck. so i don't even know why he would be mafia. | ||
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On September 17 2015 05:10 ritoky wrote: okay, what about the question i just asked rayn. both the top 2 wagons come in and vote on coyote, say anything about their alignments? I don't think moosy is a real wagon except perhaps in rayn's world. Overall, it's an interesting thought. But meh. I don't think it's really related to either of their alignments. | ||
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On September 17 2015 05:17 Damdred wrote: hiws moosey not a real wagon when he's tied for lead I believe in votes b/c I think rayn wants to lynch him basically over bs and I dont' think that type of wagon really ever stays together. Like Moosy is either excluding the other current game, which means he's telling the truth most likely regardless of his alignment in this game. Or Moosy is telling the truth because he's town in the other current game, which is completely NAI for this game. Or moosy is lying because he's mafia in the other game, which is completely nai because it's something you'd have to lie about if he's mafia in that game or else you out yourself in one game to save yourself in another. So I don't see how people don't see that and not decide to move elsewhere. Especially when there's lots of random reasons to think Moosy is town this game. | ||
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On September 17 2015 05:36 Wile E. Coyote wrote: i know enough about this site to tell you the top half of the list is the expert players and the bottom is the not. Im not gonna tell you how to live your life but its not always that easy dat hurts, but I understand it w/ my recent games. Still hurst | ||
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On September 17 2015 05:44 Cephiro wrote: By still not giving any reasoning (even to the extent of "I'm just a lazy fuck and sheeping"), and still voting on me, you're currently consolidating your position in the bottom list to be even stronger. For someone that hasn't said jack shit about me, you seem fairly confident I'm the best lynch for today. Get the fuck out of here with that shit. I'm not a lazy fuck. Yes I'm sheeping. That's not fucking lazy. I'm not fucking ignoring the thread. I'm actively reading it. I've recognized that I don't have to time like I usualyl do to spend 8-10 hours actively in the thread and pressuring, reading and rereading, thinking, etc. I have a life to live. I get fucked over by interviewing for job that the place supposedly already has filled and gets put back to PRN. I want to extend my abilities as a nurse to be more marketable and get more pay/better job. Fuck you. Fuck Damdred too for posting that. It's not a nice thing to say; I'm not even sure it's even fucking true. But I'm not going to fucking waste my time playing a game where people don't fucking value my opinions. Fuck that. I'll go over and do soemthing that actually furthers my life instead of get stuck here being a loser trying to find scraps of work to pay for food, a place to stay, chip away at my college debt and if I'm lucky pay for a doctor's visit when I need one. Fuck you. Seriously go fuck yourself. | ||
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2. I'm 99% sure Rayn is mafia. | ||
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On September 17 2015 05:23 geript wrote: b/c I think rayn wants to lynch him basically over bs and I dont' think that type of wagon really ever stays together. Like Moosy is either excluding the other current game, which means he's telling the truth most likely regardless of his alignment in this game. Or Moosy is telling the truth because he's town in the other current game, which is completely NAI for this game. Or moosy is lying because he's mafia in the other game, which is completely nai because it's something you'd have to lie about if he's mafia in that game or else you out yourself in one game to save yourself in another. So I don't see how people don't see that and not decide to move elsewhere. Especially when there's lots of random reasons to think Moosy is town this game. This is why. | ||
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1. Moosy conflating games and thinking Rayn was in a game that he wasn't in. This isn't something uncommon. It happens all the time in my experience. It's something that's quite literally not alignment indicative. 2. Moosy saying he hasn't rolled mafia before and talking like he has. Yet, regardless of whether or not Moosy is lying about that, it has 0 bearing on his alignment this game. 3. Rayn listens to his townreads. Marv kinda thought moosy was town. Palmar was pretty sure moosy was town. IIRC he thought Damdred was town and damdred thought moosy was town. In the least, Rayn will get out of a bad tunnel like that AS TOWN when other people he's townreading say that shit's stupid/terrible/NAI. 4. I gave at least 3-4 other reasons to think Moosy was town. This doesn't include things other people said. These are all things that Rayn could have and should have picked up on. I don't think the Moosy read was that hard of a read. Honestly, I think it was pretty obvious. 5. The other game. Rayn died scumreading Moosy and someone else. Even if Rayn is sure of his read in the other game; that game and this game look reasonably different. Different enough that I don't think it's reasonable to think that Rayn's memory is merging the two games. Rather, it's more reasonable for him to get to "I'm really sure he was mafia in that game; therefore he's likely town in this game." There's a lot of other little stuff; how he bounces between reads, what he drives at, etc. Some of which I can explain and some of which I can't. There is however, one important thing I want to point out: Come near the end of the day, when people aren't sheeping him, Rayn isn't driving home points on Moosy. Rayn isn't calling 3 people mafia and trying to get all 3 lynched at once. I think it was JOAT where Rayn caught me because he didn't know my "these are the people I want to lynch list"; and it was a valid read. Here, near the end of the day, we get an idea of who Rayn wants to kill, but there's no long (or even tldr point by point) case on a handful of people who need to die AND WHY. That's why Rayn is mafia. | ||
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On September 17 2015 19:04 marvellosity wrote: like i'm considering various alignment scenarios. so the thing being discussed is damdred being potentially mafia, so i'm thinking if damdred is mafia making that post, then geript is mafia or town if geript is town, then i think it's exceptionally odd to kinda build suspicion on him to make that post that ends up with him "definitely" not wanting to lynch geript, it's very decisive and closing doors so if geript is mafia, it makes a little more sense in that you're manufacturing an about turn on your scumbuddy? but i don't get why he'd say all the things he said about geript already if that were the case And when Damdred is town and I'm town and Rayn is mafia? | ||
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You could just look at your read like asked. | ||
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On September 17 2015 19:17 marvellosity wrote: the thing is, geript, when rayn is mafia he doesn't push his mislynches based on mysterious stuff floating in the air that no-one/few people are quite grasping he's clear and picks on things that you can evaluate yourself, he'll push on inconsistencies that don't make that player mafia. it would be a quite remarkable push as mafia, one that i'd love to replicate myself as scum sometime, but i'm not sure it's even possible to do I'm pretty sure I explained how he pushed on things that didn't make Moosy anything. Like go back through. Where is there a single damn thing that moosy did that Rayn pushes him for that makes him mafia? You're telling me, no he's town and here's what he does as scum. Yet I pretty specifically outlined what he did and it aligns with your scumread of him??????? Wtf | ||
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On September 17 2015 19:33 marvellosity wrote: as an aside, i find it quite funny that you always ask me to "trust" your reads. but here you're trying to convince me that one of the best historic reads that TL Mafia has ever seen is bound to be wrong. this relationship is very one-sided. I agree. You never help me lynch and I always help you lynch. | ||
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On September 17 2015 20:12 Palmar wrote: lol. There's 2 options here. this guy is sicklucker and sicklucker has a massively small penis. this guy isn't sicklucker and doesn't know sicklucker is literally never going to be nightkilled this game. 1 is true and he's literally to dumb to realize 2 will never happen. Like NKing SL is like bussing a mafia partner. He could be claimed cop with a red check and it's literally more worthwhile to keep SL around as mafia than NK him. | ||
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Ok. His penis is only normally small not massively small. | ||
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On September 18 2015 03:29 Palmar wrote: Comment on why my analysis of rayn is wrong. Because mine is right  | ||
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On September 17 2015 23:15 Palmar wrote: I still think rayn is town. here's my reason: On top of that. He got his lynch on moosy and he was wrong, but mafia rayn would never try to lynch someone like that. Like I think that is out of rayn's mafia range. Mafia rayn: I'm going to explain very clearly why he's mafia so I can point to that when I'm wrong Town rayn: Just trust me, he's mafia. I'm so convinced he's one that I'm not gonna worry about what happens if I'm wrong That's sort of the short version of it. I'm going to presume you me this read. I'm honestly not sure what to argue with here than, Yes, he can do that as mafia. Like rayn and I think very similarly as mafia. We both try to emulate our town play. To give an example, a week ago or so on voice, we were playing I'm a cop you idiot. Rayn was mafia with Yamato. Rayn claimed a green check on cephiro IIRC and SL I think it was claimed a red on Rayn. I was pretty sure Rayn was mafia. He pushed SL as mafia but there were a few reasons why Rayn was the obvious mafia in the pair. 1. Because he wasn't sure on my alignment. 2. Because he didn't want to sleep in a 4v2 scenario which provides more info overall. 3. Because his focus was on why he's town. Eventually, he got Cake to trust him. It's similar here. His focus isn't on finding why I'm mafia. Can you think of a reason why he's called me mafia other than "I don't recognize Rayn as town"? When does town rayn not stretch and contort in order to get people to sheep him? Seriously??? Yes, town!Rayn will rant and rave about people being bad, palying stupid, but he will also do his damnedest to make sure that people 100% understand why he's fucking reading people as scum so that the wagon can't in any way be moved off of his target. Where is town!Rayn preventing notMoosy from being lynched because Moosy is 1000% mafia? Rayn as a town player is a bully and an asshole and completely full of himself; he's also usually right. And I like and accept all those aspects of him. But he's not doing that here. He's not done that here. He's not burying who he thinks is scum. He's not trying to make it clear WHY I'm mafia or why Damdred is mafia or WHY Moosy was mafia. When in the fuck does town rayn do that? He wants his lynches. He will do anything to get his lynches from begging and pleading to arguing to bullying, etc. Those things... aren't in this game. What we see in this game is Rayn affirming himself as town. He's hiding behind Marv's read. He's hiding behind your read. He's not actively pushing why you should lynch his targets. So basically, your read is bad. Now if you ahve another read on Rayn you'd like me to tear a new asshole in, I'm game. | ||
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On September 18 2015 04:24 Palmar wrote: actually this is now the second time geript throws out a random read (the first one was me yesterday) that has two problems with it. a) it's probably wrong b) he doesn't push it at all. Also, geript still hasn't seen fit to respond to my point about his rage post (or apologize about it, to my knowledge). So yeah geript is mafia. 1. It's hard to respond when I'm playing league 2. I have pushed it I will push it. 3. Not mafia, not now, not ever | ||
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Case on Wile: 1. He has a massively small penis. Studies have directly correlated micrococks with mafia. 2. He was a real dick to me 3. Marv confirmed point 1 in this quote 4. Profit | ||
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See. He doesn't even deny having one of the world's smallest cocks. There's literally 0 reason not to lynch him. He's admitting to being scum. | ||
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On September 18 2015 07:12 marvellosity wrote: i really hate janitors. I was thinking it was a no flip nk. That makes so much more sense. Lol | ||
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On September 17 2015 15:43 raynpelikoneet wrote: you are terrible at this game geript, you know that? Rayn I hope you're reading this. You deserved that tunnel. You were not town. I refuse to believe it. | ||
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On September 18 2015 07:32 geript wrote: You found me out. I'm his mason partner This claim? Someone took this claim seriously? | ||
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On September 18 2015 12:41 Koshi wrote: Jat marv will probably just spam the thread and win though. Geript wants to kill palmar.... Lolz | ||
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On September 18 2015 12:49 Koshi wrote: I believe damdred, geript. So who do we kill out of palmar, marv and jat? Imo def not palmar and maybe not Marv. But in Jat's defense, the only reason why I voted correctly today is because Wile called me shit. Which isn't exactly a good track record. I mean, other than mafia Rayn. | ||
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Other scenarios are other scenarios. Like cop checked me so that check is worthless. I really don't think Marv is mafia tho | ||
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Could you post the results in cm? There's a certain relevant study. | ||
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On September 18 2015 23:16 Damdred wrote: Geript can you please look at what me and jat are saying and five opinions and some kind of read on me. Sure but first... What size is your penis? | ||
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Anyone else interested in proving their towniness? I'll be accepting photos all game long. | ||
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On September 18 2015 23:31 marvellosity wrote: you told me you didn't want any more photos Yes but this is for research not recreation. So it's probably worthwhile to send them. By probably, I mean send them. | ||
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On September 18 2015 23:39 Palmar wrote: also if geript is mafia and wins this game by talking about penises I am quitting mafia. Why are you so angry? I'm not mafia? Also, that job that they told me that wasn't open and offered me PRN instead I JUST GOT!!! What's to be mad about? | ||
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On September 18 2015 23:46 Palmar wrote: Good question. wanna talk about your blow-up on... cephiro I think it was? Put yourself in my position. For the past 1-2 years you've been surviving off of random work, generally from friends, where you can often scrape together pay bills and food but barely more than that. Interviews you've had never seem to progress for a variety of reasons from experience to not interviewing well. You're on your second interview for a specific shift that you get told isn't open but get offered PRN work. You're already frustrated, disappointed, angry, depressed over that and someone you know well who you thought thinks at least reasonably of you (Damdred) basically calls you a complete shitter and another player who has a decent reputation in effect calls you a shitter too. Btw, you're playing 2 games when you usually only play 1, your last couple games have been less than good. So on top of all the interview crap, you're getting shit on by people you respect. How would you respond? Granted I didn't realize it was Wile that said it (not Damddred) until later. But that's the thought process. | ||
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The funny thing is that it feels like more of a Palmar kill than a Marv kill, but IDK if either of them would actually make that kill. So I can still live in a world where both Palmar and Marv are town. | ||
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I kinda just htink Onegu might have been janitor. TBH I'mnot quite sure if I'm sour about still not getting Vigi. Obviously, I probably would've shot wrong, but it means I still didn't get to shoot anyone. | ||
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I guess there being no medic is kinda weird though. | ||
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So I'm pretty sure we just lynch JAT. | ||
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On September 20 2015 07:02 justanothertownie wrote: Feel free to explain your stance at any point. Well it's between you and Cephiro; I found a video of Cephiro doing some porn and his cock was pretty average sized. So pretty clearly it must be you. Plus, I think you're talking to compensate for other inadequacies. | ||
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On September 20 2015 09:02 justanothertownie wrote: It's probably pure trolling but if it's not this post is remarkably dumb btw. Of course we are not lynching the people who are pretty much confirmed but that does not only leave me. I don't get why would even be trolling. I'm excluding the obvious and removing townreads. Basically, you're the only one who I don't have a reason to townread. So suck it. | ||
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You should vote for yourself then since it's so convincing. | ||
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Like I'm not scum. Theres like a million good reasons for why I'm not scum. | ||
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On September 21 2015 07:16 ritoky wrote: i'll take 3 of those million. lay em on me. so who's mafia? onegu? Yah probably Onegu was. Mod confirm. The D1 Damdred read. My flip on Palmar. My bad Rayn tunnel. General giving no shits after like N1. Me voting for Wile for a god awful reason. Like I'll do most anything as either alignment but I think the major difference between my scum play and town play is when I'm scum I need to be in control of the thread. That doesn't mean everyone has to sheep me, but I don't like being "at town's whim." I don't like trying to let town ever organize. I prefer to wholly disrupt any and all ability to trust anyone but me. I'll spend time to focus people on reasonable but useless rabbit trails. I bank up thread control to spend it at key points. That's basically the opposite of, for the most part, irrelevant player I've been. Even when I'm busy scum I do my best to positively contribute to the team. | ||
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On September 21 2015 07:53 justanothertownie wrote: If you are town you have a team too, you know? Time to start doing the bolded. I'm doing the best I can with the time I can allot to this game. | ||
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Also, I don't get why Palmar thinks it's even possible for me to be mafia. It's exceptionally frustrating and makes me want to spite lynch him. But I really think he's town. Y U NO TOWNBRO WIT ME PLAMMAR?????? So far orientation has been pretty boring. Just random tax and money stuff. I think I'll have to talk to HR because I thought I was supposed to get a shift differential for second but they didn't include it. | ||
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On September 22 2015 06:24 Palmar wrote: Like here's (off the top of my head, not researched or designed to be particularly valid) points I was talking about earlier that could possibly make you mafia (please don't argue with them as I'm not going to argue for them). 1) the background-y-ness on day 1 really sticks with me. I feel like I was in more than a couple of conversations where your entire role in the conversation was to just chirp in at random times with something relatively pointless. 2) The strong opposition to damdred's read on wile and refusal to count it as a point in damdred's favour (even if it was wrong, it was a good observation) 3) The "blow things out of proportion" thing. I wrote the post where you called something that was just a difference in understanding a blatant lie, someone else called you out on something similar on day 2, and you did it once again today (I can't remember the context, but I mentioned it). Like you've been SUPER aggressive about shutting down ideas that involve you being mafia this game 4) I got a weird feeling from the way you talked about me possibly being mafia if marv flips mafia. I know that it's essentially correct but I always felt your stance was "Palmar is likely mafia if marv is mafia" and not "Palmar can be mafia, but isn't really likely to be even if marv flips mafia". This goes back to my #dreamteam theory (that was semi-serious at the time). I don't see how any of this makes him town whatsoever. On September 22 2015 06:26 justanothertownie wrote: Rayn was HARD townreading me. And he was hard townreading Marv and hard scumreading me. So what? | ||
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On September 15 2015 19:25 raynpelikoneet wrote: I agree with this, especially lately. but i think its too early to tell. On September 15 2015 19:42 raynpelikoneet wrote: Koshi; Palmar is almost definitely town. I somewhat agree with you on JAT but you are wrong on Palmar. On September 15 2015 20:42 raynpelikoneet wrote: well for me it isn't, because i can't understand how someone makes the posts geript did. i also have no idea how jat comes to the conclusions he does. i also have no idea why he feels the need to "defend" geript or what the fuck ever he was doing if "it doesn't matter" in the end anyways?!?!? On September 15 2015 20:48 raynpelikoneet wrote: Like here is what jat said: "I think rayn's case looks good on paper because yes, geript is being irrational and not-sense-making. Therefore i do not think it makes him mafia. Here is why; I think when geript is mafia he is calculated and makes sense, when he is town he is irrational and not-sense-making most of the time. But i still scumread him because i have no reason to townread him." jesus fucking christ  On September 16 2015 05:51 raynpelikoneet wrote: Not really, jat on the other hand is still not doing shit and apparently is not doing shit for the rest of the phase... On September 16 2015 22:05 raynpelikoneet wrote: I am talking about the start of the game and the jat thing fits into his scum!character. The way he processes information and what he lays out is scummy as fuck. Like yes, i know he is irrational at times and does weird stuff but this is just plain out scummy. On September 17 2015 00:09 raynpelikoneet wrote: I know that was geript but why does he like "approve" geript's question if he doesn't think marv should do that. Like saying "you were wrong on him remember" is basically saying "listen to geript here" which makes no sense if jat thinks i am town. The post just doesn't make any sense if jat thinks i am not mafia. On September 17 2015 00:10 raynpelikoneet wrote: Honestly i have no fucking idea what jat is doing in this game. Almost nothing he does makes any sense to me. On September 17 2015 00:19 raynpelikoneet wrote: He is doing nothing and his vote is on my top townread. On September 17 2015 04:20 raynpelikoneet wrote: like i am waffling between jat/damdred/cephiro. and i don't think cephiro is the scummiest of those people. there is 3 mafia soo....... By the end of the night, Rayn ends up town on JAT, but I'm pretty sure Rayn reads Marv as town far FAR more than he reads Jat as Mafia. Plus, the Rayn townread on JAT seems mostly based on me being mafia which is wrong. So I literally give zero fucks about Rayn's townread on JAT. Some of his points for scumreads are pretty interesting, because mafia tends to townread me and whiteknight me for really bad reasons which has been rather different from how Damdred townread me. | ||
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On September 22 2015 06:59 Palmar wrote: geript going for the too dumb to be scum play. It's really not if you bother to read why people were reading XYZ. People have harassed me all game for reads that I've already given and explained. I just cba to give a fuck about repeating shit when I'm busy and they can read my relatively short filter quite easily. | ||
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On September 22 2015 07:05 justanothertownie wrote: Rayns townread on me had absolutely nothing to do with you. I habe no idea how you come up with this shit. That's a flat out lie. All anyone has to do is open rayn's filter and cntrl+f "JAT" and his read on you seems to come around as his read on me comes around at the same time. On September 17 2015 18:20 raynpelikoneet wrote: I dont think that means much. I mean like if you are town idk what that would mean regarding the votes (if two townies are up for lynch). If anything, it should be a red flag on geript because he didn't give a shit about who gets lynched.... and now look at what he is saying.... On September 17 2015 18:05 raynpelikoneet wrote: I actually had really good reasons to think moosy is mafia. I will tell you them some day. But this is the town!jat i have been waiting for. Thank you. Additionally, it comes around based on your Wile/SL smurf read. One that's actually pretty useless IMO honestly (although I enjoy lynching SL b/c he's a complete asshat). It's interesting, but I don't think it's like "OMG 100% must be mafia because SL." I forget who caught the Wile claim fuck up thing, but I think it was JAT iirc and that's the sort of bus that's great to do because it'll happen regardless at some point. | ||
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That happened to a bitch I knew in nursing school. I almost felt bad for her, but she was a real bitch and 100% deserved it. | ||
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On September 22 2015 08:14 ritoky wrote: geript just feels off to me this game and i am very unsure if that is irl interference. cuz in the situation we are in today he thinks onegu was mafia and there's a world of 1. but mechanically it is just right to play today considering that there's a world of 2. like that is just mechanically the better mindset to play with right now. last game him and i went ballistic on people for not understanding very simple mechanics on why 1) i could not be mafia and 2) why you should never lynch someone who can block kp until lylo. like if i wasn't confirmed town, geript was town, and i was spouting world of 1 today, i feel like he would berate me. so him being in that mode and not considering into worlds of 2 very much is disconcerting. The circumstances for personality were quite different. You were mechanically a bad lynch; people had made a few pretty bad lynches at that point (ruXxar being obviously town, the FF nuke, etc). Not really the same here. Mechanically, it's best to live in a world of two; but I have a shit ton of townreads so I don't think that's the case here. If there is two, I'd put money it's Palmar/JAT in a heartbeat. Marv doesn't reasonably have a partner. I don't think I could be mafia let alone have a partner. Scott I don't think could have a partner. Damdred could maybe be with any non-confirmed but I really don't think he's mafia. I guess Cephiro + Marv/Damdred is a possibility too. I've kinda forgotten about Ceph, but I think his end of D1 is still relevant and he's probably town. The only team of 2 that makes any sense to me is Palmar/JAT for a variety of reasons. Palmar's acted differently towards Marv, he's been far more active, he's been moving away from decent reads to push people I think are town for mediocre reasons at best. JAT has ramped up in activity over time, he's heavily overstated Rayn's townread on him, he's been pushing random shit that makes zero sense, etc. From a game standpoint side, a 2 person team is 2ML away from winning and now is the important time to pool votes/pressure/thread sentiment to focus town on killing each other. | ||
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The obvious problem with filter length this game is Scott's a replacement and missed what's usually the most prolific posting phase. I've been busy. Damdred has seemed busy at points. Palmar's posting prolifically slightly oddly. Marv's dropped off a bit since idk D1. Filter length doesn't apply to JAT because JAT. It's kinda funny because I'd expected mafia to kill Scott not Koshi. I guess it's interchangeable if there's an RB (which would be kinda odd setup with RB x2 and janitor). Makes me wonder if it wasn't just a planned bus and that's why Wile rolled over so easily. | ||
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On September 22 2015 15:00 scott31337 wrote: So - You really have said nothing here - Is that correct? This is a Damdred telling me absoultely nothing - Why would you do that as town? Good advice here - I'm just saving it here in my filter. --Geript defensive -- I'll look this over later, but WTF at the moment. There's only two mafia left - and in a world Onegu was one - one mafia left, which from what I've read from SL, I'm doubtful. Marv hasn't done shit - but after my last game that every one bus each other - I have an open fucking mind now. There's only POSSIBLY two mafia left - WHY ARE THE REST OF THE FUCKING TOWN SUCK ASS AND LICK BALLS? Like if any of you scrubs are town - you are throwing the game - Why? To keep up your scum meta bullshit? GG Mr. 2 page filter | ||
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On September 22 2015 15:07 scott31337 wrote: You are going to try to shit on confirmed town because I am concise and not bullshit a lot of filter when it is not needed? No. I'm putting my thoughts out concisely while having a bit of fun. In one of your reads on me you said nothing stuck out in my filter. Did you even read it? Rayn tunnel. Palmar/Damdred early suspicion. One Vet is a mafia read. Sure I'm not my 15 pages of unmitigated aggression half filled with stupidity (50% ain't bad though right?; at least I got the stupid down pat) but I'm not wholly irrelevant. It's also not like I haven't given my thoughts. I can get me being harder to read this game, but I don't think its that hard to see I'm obviously town. That I'm trying to think/analyze when I can or sheep appropriately/reasonably when I cant. | ||
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On September 22 2015 17:17 justanothertownie wrote: Like, you can't be serious here? Dropped off A BIT? 2 RBs instead of the much simpler GF solution that has been talked about a lot by now? I seriously hope you are mafia with marv and just trolling because you know you are losing the game. How can you not understand that Marv can be town here? Him deciding to fuck off post cop check the go enjoy a relaxing weekend aren't alignment indicative. Especially in new Marv meta. I doubt this view will be popular or liked, but new Marv gives far fewer fucks. Far fewer. | ||
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On September 23 2015 02:06 justanothertownie wrote: Shut up and do something useful if you have no idea what you are talking about. I would quote the posts in question if it had any relevance to this game. I am. I'm calling you out on your bullshit. Marv you may have called scum but Damdred's right on your Wile 'push'. It'd be like me saying I heavily pushed Wile on D1. | ||
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On September 23 2015 02:50 justanothertownie wrote: This sentence doesn't even make sense. Must be hard for you to understand such a simple concept. But I'll use small words so everyone can understand. 1. You say you don't see how X can be town 2. It gets explained to you multiple ways 3. You continue to push X. I'll make it really simple. It's a classic scum tactic to ignore evidence that isn't favorable (oops a big word... It means 'good') for their ability to win. | ||
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Please just realize that you just need to agree to not lynch me. I'll agree to not be mafia. I can't promise to be rigth this game; hell, at this point i'm not sure I'm even decent anymore considering my last few games. But please, just grab your butts and trust me. | ||
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On September 24 2015 01:18 Palmar wrote: Good defense. If you are somehow town, you need to explain why you are town. I have multiple times. But here's another new wrinkle. Do I really hard sheep mafia buddy Marv d1? Nope. | ||
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On September 24 2015 02:02 justanothertownie wrote: Why not? Any other reasons that aren't WIFOM? How about you address the 80+ that have already been brought to your attention that you keep ignoring. | ||
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On September 24 2015 02:01 justanothertownie wrote: Maybe, but not as stupid/bad/mafia as you are :p I'll take stupid/bad. I'll give you bad/mafia. | ||
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On September 24 2015 03:23 Damdred wrote: Lets actually play instead of getting yourself auto lynched geript. If you could just humor me and post why people should read you town. And why you think Scott is scum of course. I have. I'm pretty sure multiple times. I'm about to head into work. For people who are spending so much time on the game, they give zero time to read my filter or anything I post. I could give zero fucks what those players think. I don't have time to keep repeating shit. What I really need is a massage because my legs are killing me. | ||
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On September 24 2015 08:03 justanothertownie wrote: Ok, you can die then. Because you trust Rayns read. Rayn, the one who hard townread me when he died. Just die. You first. I've covered why Rayn's N1 read on you is irrelevant and incorrect. | ||
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When Marv/Palmar are mafia together, I've always seen them confirm each other and work to utilize their thread capability with each other. You know, they use their names and ability to push to get people lynched; often they'll push two people and consolidate on one. It's basically how Marv operates with any vet who can control a thread in the slightest. But Marv was happy to not coordinate with Palmar and vice versa. Marv seconded my early read on Palmar (although not to the same extent) and was happy to remove the townreads on him (or try); Palmar was happy to question Marv from D2. I'm town for lots of reasons: 1. Mod confirmed on N1 when I blew up on Ceph. 2. Gave power to Marv. I'm good at mafia; but I don't think I'm good enough to simulate my town game by just sheeping (scumbuddy) Marv. I'd pull a Kita and just be less active while trying to be pushy. 3. I've been super wrong. I think I made 1 comment on thinking Wile was scum and it wasn't even fleshed out. As scum, I bother to be at least partially right. I dont' push it, but I at least bother to save room in case my partners are complete fucking retards and I have to hard carry another game. 4. Zero fucks given. I can't think of a single scum game where I've given zero fucks. I think I actually try harder as mafia than as town on average because it's just more fun. 5. I've been in no way reasonable the entire game. When have I been scum and not been at least reasonably reasonable? 6. JAT can suck my big hairy town balls. 7. Because I'd just kill Scott and not risk it. Also, i wouldn't have rb'd Koshi. Like I have really solid NKs; I lost a game because Rayn modkilled himself and I deferred to Palmar for NKs even though I knew mine were better (and would've won us the game btw). There's literally no reason for me to kill Koshi over Scott. On the other hand, there's every reason for JAT to kill him to shut him up because JAT will just try to spam his way to victory 8. I'M FUCKING MODCONFIRMED. HOW CAN DECONDUO BE SURE IF i'M FUCKING STRESSED IF I'M FUCKING SCUM???? 9. Because I don't care how I look. I haven't at all. When I'm mafia, I care to be well ahead of the "front" of the kill list line. Often, I'm leading the kill list. 10. Do I really need more. I don't know if it's Ceph or JAT, but honestly, JAT needs to die 100% because there's no way people would lynch him in lylo and there's no way town wins then. | ||
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On September 24 2015 17:37 Palmar wrote: Geript's analysis calling me town has literally 0 reasons to call me town in it, This is semi-true. Generally marv figures out my alignment (especially when I'm being useful like this game). I sometimes figure him out (and I have been trying lately to be less waffly), but most of the time (I think) I waffle on him for a long time until we lynch mafia together. Like historically that has been the point where I start trusting marv. This sentence is just an introduction to a (directionless) point geript is making. Nothing in here suggests anything about my alignment, one way or the other. He basically avoided talking to me too much. He just wasn't there very much. In hindsight I should've thought more about it, but I guess knowing he was actually in real life afk (we're co-hosts of another game and he let me know) I gave him some leeway on activity/interactiveness. What's important here is that this is (in hindsight) very revealing about marv's alignment, but says absolutely nothing about mine. I always do my own shit if I feel I need to, and I'll do it no matter my alignment. Again, this makes marv mafia, it says nothing about my alignment. (He has to call me town as mafia) This is the only thing that says anything about my alignment. So let's summarize geript's reasons for why I'm town down to: "Palmar was happy to question Marv from D2" That's really the only thing in there that makes me town. It is, of course, correct, but I don't think it's a particularly insightful way of calling me town. I feel like this piece is more of a conclusion -> evidence process than evidence -> conclusion. No you're flat out wrong. There are two ways to read people. 1. By waht they do. 2. By what they don't do. Best example of a recent game where you were scum was Ver's game. Palmar and Marv were both mafia and I was traitor. Palmar and Marv were both happy to call each other town and use that to direct town KP and direct lynches. The point about Marv not treating Palmar like confirmed town (and even trying to prevent such) shows that his alignment is the same as Palmar's. It's actually a very clever read and I'm rather proud of it. | ||
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On September 24 2015 23:38 justanothertownie wrote: Or maybe not because I am not mafia and for people who have even half a brain this should be very obvious by now. Nope. Don't be a pussy scum. You're 100% sold that I'm mafia. So agree to get lynched at LYLO. I'm even agreeing to be lynched first. Literally just lynch JAT. He does not care about trying to see if who he's lynching is any alignment. He's literally shit all over every reason (which has been many good reasons) for why I'm town. Palmar made the argument that I'm taking the "path of least resistence" for me considering previous reads. Which is an understandable PoV. The problem with that argument, is that it's exactly the same for JAT. | ||
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On September 24 2015 23:44 justanothertownie wrote: No, they were not happy to call each other town. In fact marv called Palmar mafia for his retarded push on Sandro which ultimately lost us the fucking game. No. The sandroba push was not what lost the game. It was BM and You doing stupid shit with your excess KP. Palmar's Sandro push didn't come until later in D1. The early game however, they were happy to townread each other. Not only that; Marv did the exact opposite here. So check yourself before you wreck yourself bitch. | ||
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On September 24 2015 23:46 justanothertownie wrote: I am not 100 % sold and I said as much a few posts ago. But there are 0 good reasons to think you are town. And there are even fewer reasons to think someone who will 100% spam the thread and out post people, who will be more than willing to bus players who won't be able to keep up and will get lynched regardless is town too. So eat a dick scum. Deal with it. They should and will lynch you next. | ||
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On September 24 2015 17:35 justanothertownie wrote: The reason to do what he is doing is exactly this. People calling him town for it. To the bolded: and that's why you do not do this. If he is the last mafia pushing for the easy lynches will get him scumread. His only chance of winning is being townread enough to survive today which he thinks he can achieve by being retarded and irrelevant again. The marv/Palmar thing is pure speculation. If marv feels Palmar isn't towny enough he will feel the need to call him mafia/not townread him - it was the same in assassination. 1. Wrong. The host will moderate this kind of post each and every time regardless who posts it. It doesn't matter if he thinks the person in question really feels this way or not. 2. WIFOM and bullshit. 3.-5. Yes, and that's why you are mafia. You do not give a fuck about being right this game. You act retardedly to not have to push something good and later you try to clear yourself by saying this shit. If it is so clear to you now that you haven't been reasonable then why the fuck were you like this in the first place and continue to be right now? 7. I have 0 fucking reason to shoot Koshi there. Koshi wanted to lynch marv above all and then Palmar. He said he would sheep my case on marv. So what you are trying to sell is that I not only did not shoot the tracker I was convinced was multi-shot (enough reason to clear me alone) but Koshi instead who would have sheeped me that day. Ok, you might argue "well, if he wants to kill marv then it makes sense to shoot him". That is true. But then why the heck am I killing him and STILL push and lynch marv? It makes absolutely no sense for me to do that. 8. See 1. 9. See 3.-5. 10. Yes, yes you do. People won't lynch me now and they also won't in LYLO because I am obviously town. On September 17 2015 05:54 deconduo wrote: Less of the aggressiveness please. I understand things can be stressful, but no need to start insulting people. What they don't do is post the underlined. The reason why is because it confirms I'm stressed (which btw, I don't get stressed as scum ever). It's called mod confirmed for a reason. This is quite literally the worst fucking post ever and JAT shoudl 100% be lynched for it. | ||
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On September 24 2015 23:51 justanothertownie wrote: I will never be lynched this game and there is nothing you can do about it regardless of if you are mafia or just retarded. :p The fact that I can spam up the thread says nothing about my alignment and if you knew the slightest bit about my mafia play you would know that I can't stand bussing at all. Really you can't stand it? You do it often enough. | ||
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On September 24 2015 23:56 justanothertownie wrote: Look geript, I have 0 intention of fighting your stupid bullshit any further. I will leave work now and go afk for a while. If you are town feel free to tell the thread why you are wrong on me or something like that. Or do something useful and give detailed reads on damdred or cephiro, you know people who could actually be mafia besides you. Except that Damdred isn't mafia. Thanks for trying to head into lylo with 2 people to push. | ||
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On September 25 2015 00:07 justanothertownie wrote: Who is the awful one? I called both flipped mafias mafia. You didn't. You chose to call town mafia all game so far. 0 thoughts in their filter, lol. Now you are just trolling. I know you wanted me on your mafia team, so I tried to help you out so you could win. I knew that you needed it. | ||
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On September 25 2015 00:52 justanothertownie wrote: You said because he is suicidal. That cannot be your meta read. Confirmed not reading/not caring | ||
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Like it's really clear JAT has never read anything I've written. So I just hope he loses. | ||
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Like if he's town. He deserves to lose just as much as I do. Sure I've been wrong but I've spent a shift on more time than I should have on this game. If he's scum, then its cephalothorax/palmar/ritoky who are being retarded. I literally give no shits. Like if im ever Mafia with him I will bus the shit out of him. Do not care. | ||
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That's is. Now let's make a list of every useless bit of analysis: His whole filter | ||
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Also JAT has asked why I'm town like 4 times today. It's been explained 4 times. Do you guys really think he's some mentally retarded player to need it that often? Like he's clearly mentally deficient but I'd expect his iq is 70-80. Like wtf? | ||
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On September 26 2015 03:04 justanothertownie wrote: But cool. I made my decision. Today geript dies and if he isn't mafia and just an asshole/trashtier player I will figure this out in LYLO. I will not tolerate this kind of play in my town. Course you don't scum | ||
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On September 26 2015 03:12 justanothertownie wrote: That won't help. The guy hasn't made a rational argument all game. I think you're talking about your own filter. I know how hard it is for you to understand good arguments, but resorting to lying with each statement is remarkably weak. | ||
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geript
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Deez nuts. Suck em bitch | ||
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On September 26 2015 03:36 justanothertownie wrote: Rayns push on moosy was so obviously awful noone should get any credit for that. But if we are talking about it anyways - hey, who was the one fighting rayn about it? Yes, it was me. Does geript care? No. Because I obviously did no analysis all game. Jat's response: continue to lie about shit. | ||
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