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I stalked JAT last night. Turns out he uses a penis pump. Can we all admit that's pretty scummy? Yes I believe so. Plus, there's the penis size to mafianess proven correlation.
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On September 21 2015 06:41 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2015 06:40 geript wrote:
I stalked JAT last night. Turns out he uses a penis pump. Can we all admit that's pretty scummy? Yes I believe so. Plus, there's the penis size to mafianess proven correlation. Very creative and convincing.
You should vote for yourself then since it's so convincing.
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I don't get it. I've made reads pretty clearly. Palmar is town. Marv is town. Damdred is town. Ceph is kinda likely-ish to be town. Scott is 98% town. Koshi is dead but town. Like there's not much that has changed. So everyone calling me scum can kindly drop to your knees and do your duty.
Like I'm not scum. Theres like a million good reasons for why I'm not scum.
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On September 21 2015 07:16 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2015 07:13 geript wrote:
I don't get it. I've made reads pretty clearly. Palmar is town. Marv is town. Damdred is town. Ceph is kinda likely-ish to be town. Scott is 98% town. Koshi is dead but town. Like there's not much that has changed. So everyone calling me scum can kindly drop to your knees and do your duty.
Like I'm not scum. Theres like a million good reasons for why I'm not scum. i'll take 3 of those million. lay em on me. so who's mafia? onegu?
Yah probably Onegu was.
Mod confirm. The D1 Damdred read. My flip on Palmar. My bad Rayn tunnel. General giving no shits after like N1. Me voting for Wile for a god awful reason.
Like I'll do most anything as either alignment but I think the major difference between my scum play and town play is when I'm scum I need to be in control of the thread. That doesn't mean everyone has to sheep me, but I don't like being "at town's whim." I don't like trying to let town ever organize. I prefer to wholly disrupt any and all ability to trust anyone but me. I'll spend time to focus people on reasonable but useless rabbit trails. I bank up thread control to spend it at key points. That's basically the opposite of, for the most part, irrelevant player I've been. Even when I'm busy scum I do my best to positively contribute to the team.
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On September 21 2015 07:53 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2015 07:51 geript wrote:On September 21 2015 07:16 ritoky wrote:On September 21 2015 07:13 geript wrote:
I don't get it. I've made reads pretty clearly. Palmar is town. Marv is town. Damdred is town. Ceph is kinda likely-ish to be town. Scott is 98% town. Koshi is dead but town. Like there's not much that has changed. So everyone calling me scum can kindly drop to your knees and do your duty.
Like I'm not scum. Theres like a million good reasons for why I'm not scum. i'll take 3 of those million. lay em on me. so who's mafia? onegu? Yah probably Onegu was. Mod confirm. The D1 Damdred read. My flip on Palmar. My bad Rayn tunnel. General giving no shits after like N1. Me voting for Wile for a god awful reason. Like I'll do most anything as either alignment but I think the major difference between my scum play and town play is when I'm scum I need to be in control of the thread. That doesn't mean everyone has to sheep me, but I don't like being "at town's whim." I don't like trying to let town ever organize. I prefer to wholly disrupt any and all ability to trust anyone but me. I'll spend time to focus people on reasonable but useless rabbit trails. I bank up thread control to spend it at key points. That's basically the opposite of, for the most part, irrelevant player I've been. Even when I'm busy scum I do my best to positively contribute to the team. If you are town you have a team too, you know? Time to start doing the bolded.
I'm doing the best I can with the time I can allot to this game.
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I bet his weekend was better than mine. My ex canceled so I ended up watching football and running two D&D games. It was slightly disconcerting.
Also, I don't get why Palmar thinks it's even possible for me to be mafia. It's exceptionally frustrating and makes me want to spite lynch him. But I really think he's town. Y U NO TOWNBRO WIT ME PLAMMAR??????
So far orientation has been pretty boring. Just random tax and money stuff. I think I'll have to talk to HR because I thought I was supposed to get a shift differential for second but they didn't include it.
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This may sound crazy, but I see no reason to lynch Marv over Jat. TBH the lack of trolly yet serious push from Palmar is making me really reconsider his alignment. I think he's town for a variety of reads, but he's pushing different than I've seen. Plus, usually my early reads are the most accurate and I wasn't sold on Palmar early how I was on other people.
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On September 22 2015 06:24 Palmar wrote:
Like here's (off the top of my head, not researched or designed to be particularly valid) points I was talking about earlier that could possibly make you mafia (please don't argue with them as I'm not going to argue for them).
1) the background-y-ness on day 1 really sticks with me. I feel like I was in more than a couple of conversations where your entire role in the conversation was to just chirp in at random times with something relatively pointless.
2) The strong opposition to damdred's read on wile and refusal to count it as a point in damdred's favour (even if it was wrong, it was a good observation)
3) The "blow things out of proportion" thing. I wrote the post where you called something that was just a difference in understanding a blatant lie, someone else called you out on something similar on day 2, and you did it once again today (I can't remember the context, but I mentioned it). Like you've been SUPER aggressive about shutting down ideas that involve you being mafia this game
4) I got a weird feeling from the way you talked about me possibly being mafia if marv flips mafia. I know that it's essentially correct but I always felt your stance was "Palmar is likely mafia if marv is mafia" and not "Palmar can be mafia, but isn't really likely to be even if marv flips mafia". This goes back to my #dreamteam theory (that was semi-serious at the time).
I don't see how any of this makes him town whatsoever.
On September 22 2015 06:26 justanothertownie wrote:
Rayn was HARD townreading me.
And he was hard townreading Marv and hard scumreading me. So what?
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Just some of the Rayn "townreads" on JAT
On September 15 2015 19:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2015 18:57 Palmar wrote:
I feel like JAT has basically been a non-entity this game. Maybe I should tunnel him to see what happens. I agree with this, especially lately. but i think its too early to tell.
On September 15 2015 19:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Koshi; Palmar is almost definitely town. I somewhat agree with you on JAT but you are wrong on Palmar.
On September 15 2015 20:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2015 20:40 marvellosity wrote:On September 15 2015 20:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am not saying he should be a clean townread for you.
I am saying he should not be a scumread for you because he does things you think are more likely to come from town!geript than mafia!geript (unless you ofc prove where i am wrong, which you havent done). not sure if it helps, but from my perspective: 1) geript is more calculated as mafia 2) geript did something scummy 3) the thing was scummy enough that 2 to an extent trumps 1 or to put it another way maybe, most nonsense/all-over-the-placeness isn't scummy well for me it isn't, because i can't understand how someone makes the posts geript did. i also have no idea how jat comes to the conclusions he does. i also have no idea why he feels the need to "defend" geript or what the fuck ever he was doing if "it doesn't matter" in the end anyways?!?!?
On September 15 2015 20:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:Like here is what jat said: "I think rayn's case looks good on paper because yes, geript is being irrational and not-sense-making. Therefore i do not think it makes him mafia. Here is why; I think when geript is mafia he is calculated and makes sense, when he is town he is irrational and not-sense-making most of the time. But i still scumread him because i have no reason to townread him." jesus fucking christ 
On September 16 2015 05:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Not really, jat on the other hand is still not doing shit and apparently is not doing shit for the rest of the phase...
On September 16 2015 22:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am talking about the start of the game and the jat thing fits into his scum!character.
The way he processes information and what he lays out is scummy as fuck. Like yes, i know he is irrational at times and does weird stuff but this is just plain out scummy.
On September 17 2015 00:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I know that was geript but why does he like "approve" geript's question if he doesn't think marv should do that.
Like saying "you were wrong on him remember" is basically saying "listen to geript here" which makes no sense if jat thinks i am town. The post just doesn't make any sense if jat thinks i am not mafia.
On September 17 2015 00:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Honestly i have no fucking idea what jat is doing in this game.
Almost nothing he does makes any sense to me.
On September 17 2015 00:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2015 00:18 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I'm really not confident about a JAT lynch if it's based mostly off of meta like Damdred says. :/ Is there anything else more solid that I missed? He is doing nothing and his vote is on my top townread.
On September 17 2015 04:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
like i am waffling between jat/damdred/cephiro.
and i don't think cephiro is the scummiest of those people. there is 3 mafia soo.......
By the end of the night, Rayn ends up town on JAT, but I'm pretty sure Rayn reads Marv as town far FAR more than he reads Jat as Mafia. Plus, the Rayn townread on JAT seems mostly based on me being mafia which is wrong. So I literally give zero fucks about Rayn's townread on JAT. Some of his points for scumreads are pretty interesting, because mafia tends to townread me and whiteknight me for really bad reasons which has been rather different from how Damdred townread me.
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On September 22 2015 06:59 Palmar wrote:
geript going for the too dumb to be scum play.
It's really not if you bother to read why people were reading XYZ. People have harassed me all game for reads that I've already given and explained. I just cba to give a fuck about repeating shit when I'm busy and they can read my relatively short filter quite easily.
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On September 22 2015 07:05 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2015 07:03 geript wrote:Just some of the Rayn "townreads" on JAT On September 15 2015 19:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 15 2015 18:57 Palmar wrote:
I feel like JAT has basically been a non-entity this game. Maybe I should tunnel him to see what happens. I agree with this, especially lately. but i think its too early to tell. On September 15 2015 19:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Koshi; Palmar is almost definitely town. I somewhat agree with you on JAT but you are wrong on Palmar. On September 15 2015 20:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 15 2015 20:40 marvellosity wrote:On September 15 2015 20:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am not saying he should be a clean townread for you.
I am saying he should not be a scumread for you because he does things you think are more likely to come from town!geript than mafia!geript (unless you ofc prove where i am wrong, which you havent done). not sure if it helps, but from my perspective: 1) geript is more calculated as mafia 2) geript did something scummy 3) the thing was scummy enough that 2 to an extent trumps 1 or to put it another way maybe, most nonsense/all-over-the-placeness isn't scummy well for me it isn't, because i can't understand how someone makes the posts geript did. i also have no idea how jat comes to the conclusions he does. i also have no idea why he feels the need to "defend" geript or what the fuck ever he was doing if "it doesn't matter" in the end anyways?!?!? On September 15 2015 20:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:Like here is what jat said: "I think rayn's case looks good on paper because yes, geript is being irrational and not-sense-making. Therefore i do not think it makes him mafia. Here is why; I think when geript is mafia he is calculated and makes sense, when he is town he is irrational and not-sense-making most of the time. But i still scumread him because i have no reason to townread him." jesus fucking christ On September 16 2015 05:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Not really, jat on the other hand is still not doing shit and apparently is not doing shit for the rest of the phase... On September 16 2015 22:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am talking about the start of the game and the jat thing fits into his scum!character.
The way he processes information and what he lays out is scummy as fuck. Like yes, i know he is irrational at times and does weird stuff but this is just plain out scummy. On September 17 2015 00:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I know that was geript but why does he like "approve" geript's question if he doesn't think marv should do that.
Like saying "you were wrong on him remember" is basically saying "listen to geript here" which makes no sense if jat thinks i am town. The post just doesn't make any sense if jat thinks i am not mafia. On September 17 2015 00:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Honestly i have no fucking idea what jat is doing in this game.
Almost nothing he does makes any sense to me. On September 17 2015 00:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 17 2015 00:18 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I'm really not confident about a JAT lynch if it's based mostly off of meta like Damdred says. :/ Is there anything else more solid that I missed? He is doing nothing and his vote is on my top townread. On September 17 2015 04:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
like i am waffling between jat/damdred/cephiro.
and i don't think cephiro is the scummiest of those people. there is 3 mafia soo....... By the end of the night, Rayn ends up town on JAT, but I'm pretty sure Rayn reads Marv as town far FAR more than he reads Jat as Mafia. Plus, the Rayn townread on JAT seems mostly based on me being mafia which is wrong. So I literally give zero fucks about Rayn's townread on JAT. Some of his points for scumreads are pretty interesting, because mafia tends to townread me and whiteknight me for really bad reasons which has been rather different from how Damdred townread me. Rayns townread on me had absolutely nothing to do with you. I habe no idea how you come up with this shit.
That's a flat out lie. All anyone has to do is open rayn's filter and cntrl+f "JAT" and his read on you seems to come around as his read on me comes around at the same time.
On September 17 2015 18:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 17 2015 18:06 justanothertownie wrote:
It has been townjat all along. Being in this counterwagon position is actually pretty nice now that I think of it. Will read what I missed and give my thoughts on it later on. I dont think that means much. I mean like if you are town idk what that would mean regarding the votes (if two townies are up for lynch). If anything, it should be a red flag on geript because he didn't give a shit about who gets lynched.... and now look at what he is saying....
On September 17 2015 18:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:I actually had really good reasons to think moosy is mafia.  I will tell you them some day. But this is the town!jat i have been waiting for. Thank you.
Additionally, it comes around based on your Wile/SL smurf read. One that's actually pretty useless IMO honestly (although I enjoy lynching SL b/c he's a complete asshat). It's interesting, but I don't think it's like "OMG 100% must be mafia because SL." I forget who caught the Wile claim fuck up thing, but I think it was JAT iirc and that's the sort of bus that's great to do because it'll happen regardless at some point.
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Nah. He's very much a team builder. His reads tend to at least in part be association based. Which is why when he gets tricked by 1 scum playing well or pocketing him he's be wrong about multiple. It's why he often pushes 2-3 people at once.
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Better than having a old guy who wants to have two BM's every day even after major surgery, being NPO for 12, etc. bitch to the doctor and have a progressive series of stool softeners ending in golytely squirm all of the the fucking bed and spread his code brown onto your scrubs.
That happened to a bitch I knew in nursing school. I almost felt bad for her, but she was a real bitch and 100% deserved it.
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On September 22 2015 08:14 ritoky wrote:
geript just feels off to me this game and i am very unsure if that is irl interference.
cuz in the situation we are in today he thinks onegu was mafia and there's a world of 1. but mechanically it is just right to play today considering that there's a world of 2. like that is just mechanically the better mindset to play with right now. last game him and i went ballistic on people for not understanding very simple mechanics on why 1) i could not be mafia and 2) why you should never lynch someone who can block kp until lylo. like if i wasn't confirmed town, geript was town, and i was spouting world of 1 today, i feel like he would berate me. so him being in that mode and not considering into worlds of 2 very much is disconcerting.
The circumstances for personality were quite different. You were mechanically a bad lynch; people had made a few pretty bad lynches at that point (ruXxar being obviously town, the FF nuke, etc). Not really the same here. Mechanically, it's best to live in a world of two; but I have a shit ton of townreads so I don't think that's the case here. If there is two, I'd put money it's Palmar/JAT in a heartbeat. Marv doesn't reasonably have a partner. I don't think I could be mafia let alone have a partner. Scott I don't think could have a partner. Damdred could maybe be with any non-confirmed but I really don't think he's mafia. I guess Cephiro + Marv/Damdred is a possibility too. I've kinda forgotten about Ceph, but I think his end of D1 is still relevant and he's probably town.
The only team of 2 that makes any sense to me is Palmar/JAT for a variety of reasons. Palmar's acted differently towards Marv, he's been far more active, he's been moving away from decent reads to push people I think are town for mediocre reasons at best. JAT has ramped up in activity over time, he's heavily overstated Rayn's townread on him, he's been pushing random shit that makes zero sense, etc. From a game standpoint side, a 2 person team is 2ML away from winning and now is the important time to pool votes/pressure/thread sentiment to focus town on killing each other.
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Using the filter length heuristic, Scott then Ceph then me then Damdred are the most likely to be mafia. Which tbh is kinda interesting, but eh. A blue not CC'ing Scott is pretty insane imo.
The obvious problem with filter length this game is Scott's a replacement and missed what's usually the most prolific posting phase. I've been busy. Damdred has seemed busy at points. Palmar's posting prolifically slightly oddly. Marv's dropped off a bit since idk D1. Filter length doesn't apply to JAT because JAT.
It's kinda funny because I'd expected mafia to kill Scott not Koshi. I guess it's interchangeable if there's an RB (which would be kinda odd setup with RB x2 and janitor). Makes me wonder if it wasn't just a planned bus and that's why Wile rolled over so easily.
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On September 22 2015 15:00 scott31337 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2015 07:03 geript wrote:Just some of the Rayn "townreads" on JAT On September 15 2015 19:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 15 2015 18:57 Palmar wrote:
I feel like JAT has basically been a non-entity this game. Maybe I should tunnel him to see what happens. I agree with this, especially lately. but i think its too early to tell. On September 15 2015 19:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Koshi; Palmar is almost definitely town. I somewhat agree with you on JAT but you are wrong on Palmar. On September 15 2015 20:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 15 2015 20:40 marvellosity wrote:On September 15 2015 20:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am not saying he should be a clean townread for you.
I am saying he should not be a scumread for you because he does things you think are more likely to come from town!geript than mafia!geript (unless you ofc prove where i am wrong, which you havent done). not sure if it helps, but from my perspective: 1) geript is more calculated as mafia 2) geript did something scummy 3) the thing was scummy enough that 2 to an extent trumps 1 or to put it another way maybe, most nonsense/all-over-the-placeness isn't scummy well for me it isn't, because i can't understand how someone makes the posts geript did. i also have no idea how jat comes to the conclusions he does. i also have no idea why he feels the need to "defend" geript or what the fuck ever he was doing if "it doesn't matter" in the end anyways?!?!? On September 15 2015 20:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:Like here is what jat said: "I think rayn's case looks good on paper because yes, geript is being irrational and not-sense-making. Therefore i do not think it makes him mafia. Here is why; I think when geript is mafia he is calculated and makes sense, when he is town he is irrational and not-sense-making most of the time. But i still scumread him because i have no reason to townread him." jesus fucking christ On September 16 2015 05:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Not really, jat on the other hand is still not doing shit and apparently is not doing shit for the rest of the phase... On September 16 2015 22:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am talking about the start of the game and the jat thing fits into his scum!character.
The way he processes information and what he lays out is scummy as fuck. Like yes, i know he is irrational at times and does weird stuff but this is just plain out scummy. On September 17 2015 00:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I know that was geript but why does he like "approve" geript's question if he doesn't think marv should do that.
Like saying "you were wrong on him remember" is basically saying "listen to geript here" which makes no sense if jat thinks i am town. The post just doesn't make any sense if jat thinks i am not mafia. On September 17 2015 00:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Honestly i have no fucking idea what jat is doing in this game.
Almost nothing he does makes any sense to me. On September 17 2015 00:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 17 2015 00:18 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I'm really not confident about a JAT lynch if it's based mostly off of meta like Damdred says. :/ Is there anything else more solid that I missed? He is doing nothing and his vote is on my top townread. On September 17 2015 04:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
like i am waffling between jat/damdred/cephiro.
and i don't think cephiro is the scummiest of those people. there is 3 mafia soo....... By the end of the night, Rayn ends up town on JAT, but I'm pretty sure Rayn reads Marv as town far FAR more than he reads Jat as Mafia. Plus, the Rayn townread on JAT seems mostly based on me being mafia which is wrong. So I literally give zero fucks about Rayn's townread on JAT. Some of his points for scumreads are pretty interesting, because mafia tends to townread me and whiteknight me for really bad reasons which has been rather different from how Damdred townread me. So - You really have said nothing here - Is that correct? Show nested quote +On September 22 2015 08:05 Damdred wrote:
Such talk id be happy lynching Marv or ceph though.
Like I said before I left its really possible that they are a team together since Marv gave up his ceph read for little to no reason at all considering what was going on in the thread.
Rereading that part of the game it just boggles how fast Marv gets off ceph when ceph still didn't do anything to go to moosey who he didn't want to lynch.
Lije its a really possible scum team. This is a Damdred telling me absoultely nothing - Why would you do that as town? Show nested quote +On September 22 2015 08:14 ritoky wrote:
geript just feels off to me this game and i am very unsure if that is irl interference.
cuz in the situation we are in today he thinks onegu was mafia and there's a world of 1. but mechanically it is just right to play today considering that there's a world of 2. like that is just mechanically the better mindset to play with right now. last game him and i went ballistic on people for not understanding very simple mechanics on why 1) i could not be mafia and 2) why you should never lynch someone who can block kp until lylo. like if i wasn't confirmed town, geript was town, and i was spouting world of 1 today, i feel like he would berate me. so him being in that mode and not considering into worlds of 2 very much is disconcerting. Good advice here - I'm just saving it here in my filter. --Geript defensive -- Show nested quote +On September 22 2015 14:51 geript wrote:On September 22 2015 08:14 ritoky wrote:
geript just feels off to me this game and i am very unsure if that is irl interference.
cuz in the situation we are in today he thinks onegu was mafia and there's a world of 1. but mechanically it is just right to play today considering that there's a world of 2. like that is just mechanically the better mindset to play with right now. last game him and i went ballistic on people for not understanding very simple mechanics on why 1) i could not be mafia and 2) why you should never lynch someone who can block kp until lylo. like if i wasn't confirmed town, geript was town, and i was spouting world of 1 today, i feel like he would berate me. so him being in that mode and not considering into worlds of 2 very much is disconcerting. The circumstances for personality were quite different. You were mechanically a bad lynch; people had made a few pretty bad lynches at that point (ruXxar being obviously town, the FF nuke, etc). Not really the same here. Mechanically, it's best to live in a world of two; but I have a shit ton of townreads so I don't think that's the case here. If there is two, I'd put money it's Palmar/JAT in a heartbeat. Marv doesn't reasonably have a partner. I don't think I could be mafia let alone have a partner. Scott I don't think could have a partner. Damdred could maybe be with any non-confirmed but I really don't think he's mafia. I guess Cephiro + Marv/Damdred is a possibility too. I've kinda forgotten about Ceph, but I think his end of D1 is still relevant and he's probably town. The only team of 2 that makes any sense to me is Palmar/JAT for a variety of reasons. Palmar's acted differently towards Marv, he's been far more active, he's been moving away from decent reads to push people I think are town for mediocre reasons at best. JAT has ramped up in activity over time, he's heavily overstated Rayn's townread on him, he's been pushing random shit that makes zero sense, etc. From a game standpoint side, a 2 person team is 2ML away from winning and now is the important time to pool votes/pressure/thread sentiment to focus town on killing each other. I'll look this over later, but WTF at the moment. There's only two mafia left - and in a world Onegu was one - one mafia left, which from what I've read from SL, I'm doubtful. Marv hasn't done shit - but after my last game that every one bus each other - I have an open fucking mind now. There's only POSSIBLY two mafia left - WHY ARE THE REST OF THE FUCKING TOWN SUCK ASS AND LICK BALLS? Like if any of you scrubs are town - you are throwing the game - Why? To keep up your scum meta bullshit?
GG Mr. 2 page filter
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On September 22 2015 15:07 scott31337 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2015 15:04 geript wrote:On September 22 2015 15:00 scott31337 wrote:On September 22 2015 07:03 geript wrote:Just some of the Rayn "townreads" on JAT On September 15 2015 19:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 15 2015 18:57 Palmar wrote:
I feel like JAT has basically been a non-entity this game. Maybe I should tunnel him to see what happens. I agree with this, especially lately. but i think its too early to tell. On September 15 2015 19:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Koshi; Palmar is almost definitely town. I somewhat agree with you on JAT but you are wrong on Palmar. On September 15 2015 20:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 15 2015 20:40 marvellosity wrote:On September 15 2015 20:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am not saying he should be a clean townread for you.
I am saying he should not be a scumread for you because he does things you think are more likely to come from town!geript than mafia!geript (unless you ofc prove where i am wrong, which you havent done). not sure if it helps, but from my perspective: 1) geript is more calculated as mafia 2) geript did something scummy 3) the thing was scummy enough that 2 to an extent trumps 1 or to put it another way maybe, most nonsense/all-over-the-placeness isn't scummy well for me it isn't, because i can't understand how someone makes the posts geript did. i also have no idea how jat comes to the conclusions he does. i also have no idea why he feels the need to "defend" geript or what the fuck ever he was doing if "it doesn't matter" in the end anyways?!?!? On September 15 2015 20:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:Like here is what jat said: "I think rayn's case looks good on paper because yes, geript is being irrational and not-sense-making. Therefore i do not think it makes him mafia. Here is why; I think when geript is mafia he is calculated and makes sense, when he is town he is irrational and not-sense-making most of the time. But i still scumread him because i have no reason to townread him." jesus fucking christ On September 16 2015 05:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Not really, jat on the other hand is still not doing shit and apparently is not doing shit for the rest of the phase... On September 16 2015 22:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am talking about the start of the game and the jat thing fits into his scum!character.
The way he processes information and what he lays out is scummy as fuck. Like yes, i know he is irrational at times and does weird stuff but this is just plain out scummy. On September 17 2015 00:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I know that was geript but why does he like "approve" geript's question if he doesn't think marv should do that.
Like saying "you were wrong on him remember" is basically saying "listen to geript here" which makes no sense if jat thinks i am town. The post just doesn't make any sense if jat thinks i am not mafia. On September 17 2015 00:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Honestly i have no fucking idea what jat is doing in this game.
Almost nothing he does makes any sense to me. On September 17 2015 00:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 17 2015 00:18 MoosyDoosy wrote:
I'm really not confident about a JAT lynch if it's based mostly off of meta like Damdred says. :/ Is there anything else more solid that I missed? He is doing nothing and his vote is on my top townread. On September 17 2015 04:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
like i am waffling between jat/damdred/cephiro.
and i don't think cephiro is the scummiest of those people. there is 3 mafia soo....... By the end of the night, Rayn ends up town on JAT, but I'm pretty sure Rayn reads Marv as town far FAR more than he reads Jat as Mafia. Plus, the Rayn townread on JAT seems mostly based on me being mafia which is wrong. So I literally give zero fucks about Rayn's townread on JAT. Some of his points for scumreads are pretty interesting, because mafia tends to townread me and whiteknight me for really bad reasons which has been rather different from how Damdred townread me. So - You really have said nothing here - Is that correct? On September 22 2015 08:05 Damdred wrote:
Such talk id be happy lynching Marv or ceph though.
Like I said before I left its really possible that they are a team together since Marv gave up his ceph read for little to no reason at all considering what was going on in the thread.
Rereading that part of the game it just boggles how fast Marv gets off ceph when ceph still didn't do anything to go to moosey who he didn't want to lynch.
Lije its a really possible scum team. This is a Damdred telling me absoultely nothing - Why would you do that as town? On September 22 2015 08:14 ritoky wrote:
geript just feels off to me this game and i am very unsure if that is irl interference.
cuz in the situation we are in today he thinks onegu was mafia and there's a world of 1. but mechanically it is just right to play today considering that there's a world of 2. like that is just mechanically the better mindset to play with right now. last game him and i went ballistic on people for not understanding very simple mechanics on why 1) i could not be mafia and 2) why you should never lynch someone who can block kp until lylo. like if i wasn't confirmed town, geript was town, and i was spouting world of 1 today, i feel like he would berate me. so him being in that mode and not considering into worlds of 2 very much is disconcerting. Good advice here - I'm just saving it here in my filter. --Geript defensive -- On September 22 2015 14:51 geript wrote:On September 22 2015 08:14 ritoky wrote:
geript just feels off to me this game and i am very unsure if that is irl interference.
cuz in the situation we are in today he thinks onegu was mafia and there's a world of 1. but mechanically it is just right to play today considering that there's a world of 2. like that is just mechanically the better mindset to play with right now. last game him and i went ballistic on people for not understanding very simple mechanics on why 1) i could not be mafia and 2) why you should never lynch someone who can block kp until lylo. like if i wasn't confirmed town, geript was town, and i was spouting world of 1 today, i feel like he would berate me. so him being in that mode and not considering into worlds of 2 very much is disconcerting. The circumstances for personality were quite different. You were mechanically a bad lynch; people had made a few pretty bad lynches at that point (ruXxar being obviously town, the FF nuke, etc). Not really the same here. Mechanically, it's best to live in a world of two; but I have a shit ton of townreads so I don't think that's the case here. If there is two, I'd put money it's Palmar/JAT in a heartbeat. Marv doesn't reasonably have a partner. I don't think I could be mafia let alone have a partner. Scott I don't think could have a partner. Damdred could maybe be with any non-confirmed but I really don't think he's mafia. I guess Cephiro + Marv/Damdred is a possibility too. I've kinda forgotten about Ceph, but I think his end of D1 is still relevant and he's probably town. The only team of 2 that makes any sense to me is Palmar/JAT for a variety of reasons. Palmar's acted differently towards Marv, he's been far more active, he's been moving away from decent reads to push people I think are town for mediocre reasons at best. JAT has ramped up in activity over time, he's heavily overstated Rayn's townread on him, he's been pushing random shit that makes zero sense, etc. From a game standpoint side, a 2 person team is 2ML away from winning and now is the important time to pool votes/pressure/thread sentiment to focus town on killing each other. I'll look this over later, but WTF at the moment. There's only two mafia left - and in a world Onegu was one - one mafia left, which from what I've read from SL, I'm doubtful. Marv hasn't done shit - but after my last game that every one bus each other - I have an open fucking mind now. There's only POSSIBLY two mafia left - WHY ARE THE REST OF THE FUCKING TOWN SUCK ASS AND LICK BALLS? Like if any of you scrubs are town - you are throwing the game - Why? To keep up your scum meta bullshit? GG Mr. 2 page filter You are going to try to shit on confirmed town because I am concise and not bullshit a lot of filter when it is not needed?
No. I'm putting my thoughts out concisely while having a bit of fun. In one of your reads on me you said nothing stuck out in my filter. Did you even read it? Rayn tunnel. Palmar/Damdred early suspicion. One Vet is a mafia read. Sure I'm not my 15 pages of unmitigated aggression half filled with stupidity (50% ain't bad though right?; at least I got the stupid down pat) but I'm not wholly irrelevant. It's also not like I haven't given my thoughts. I can get me being harder to read this game, but I don't think its that hard to see I'm obviously town. That I'm trying to think/analyze when I can or sheep appropriately/reasonably when I cant.
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I wonder what Palmar's mafia by post count thing would say. I vaguely recall Palmar used that when he was mafia.
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On September 22 2015 17:17 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2015 15:02 geript wrote:
Using the filter length heuristic, Scott then Ceph then me then Damdred are the most likely to be mafia. Which tbh is kinda interesting, but eh. A blue not CC'ing Scott is pretty insane imo.
The obvious problem with filter length this game is Scott's a replacement and missed what's usually the most prolific posting phase. I've been busy. Damdred has seemed busy at points. Palmar's posting prolifically slightly oddly. Marv's dropped off a bit since idk D1. Filter length doesn't apply to JAT because JAT.
It's kinda funny because I'd expected mafia to kill Scott not Koshi. I guess it's interchangeable if there's an RB (which would be kinda odd setup with RB x2 and janitor). Makes me wonder if it wasn't just a planned bus and that's why Wile rolled over so easily. Like, you can't be serious here? Dropped off A BIT? 2 RBs instead of the much simpler GF solution that has been talked about a lot by now? I seriously hope you are mafia with marv and just trolling because you know you are losing the game.
How can you not understand that Marv can be town here? Him deciding to fuck off post cop check the go enjoy a relaxing weekend aren't alignment indicative. Especially in new Marv meta. I doubt this view will be popular or liked, but new Marv gives far fewer fucks. Far fewer.
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1 modkill is fine. 2 is not.
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