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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
September 16 2015 13:07 GMT
#1241
@jat do you think it's within your mafia range to attack a town marv like you've just done?
Computer says mafia
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
September 16 2015 13:08 GMT
#1242
Moosey isn't GB, him making a mistake doesn't make him mafia. And honestly its a bit...below the bar for you rayn. Even with the reason.

jat looks like shit still, there was one point he looked towny though. But his ransom pushing on Marv for nai stuff is just crappy. And obviously Marv is going to omgus jat here that's what Marv does early teehee

Marv never reads me (.

And people poking about a drop off are kinda....stupid to a degreee, I'm never really spammy. Oh well
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
September 16 2015 13:10 GMT
#1243
On September 16 2015 22:08 Damdred wrote:
Moosey isn't GB, him making a mistake doesn't make him mafia. And honestly its a bit...below the bar for you rayn. Even with the reason.

kindly said... shut up.
first of all that's not what i am talking about and second, i would have never brought anything up if he didn't start it.
I am refusing to not use information that is presented in this thread to make a read. It is as simple as that.
table for two on a tv tray
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
September 16 2015 13:11 GMT
#1244
@rayn

In order to scumread moosy I have to assume way more of his scumgame than I'd normally apply to a guy playing his second game. There is a reason I'm generally good at reading new players, it's because they are usually fairly transparent. It's only when people have played a bunch of games that they start to have a layered approach to mafia. To borrow terminology from another mafia community:

Level 1 mafia is very unlikely to:

1) admit he's been scummy by calling people townreading him suspicious
2) intentionally misremember things or do bad things and expect townreads in return

You're basically asking us to assume moosy is at least level 2 scum. (I still haven't figured out what guys mean when they say levels beyond 1 and 2...)
Computer says mafia
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
September 16 2015 13:12 GMT
#1245
i don't even know what levels are
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
September 16 2015 13:15 GMT
#1246
On September 16 2015 22:11 Palmar wrote:
@rayn

In order to scumread moosy I have to assume way more of his scumgame than I'd normally apply to a guy playing his second game. There is a reason I'm generally good at reading new players, it's because they are usually fairly transparent. It's only when people have played a bunch of games that they start to have a layered approach to mafia. To borrow terminology from another mafia community:

Level 1 mafia is very unlikely to:

1) admit he's been scummy by calling people townreading him suspicious
2) intentionally misremember things or do bad things and expect townreads in return

You're basically asking us to assume moosy is at least level 2 scum. (I still haven't figured out what guys mean when they say levels beyond 1 and 2...)

Actually, when I am Mafia, I do try and replicate my town game as much as possible. Also, this is not my second game. It's my ...6th game? 5th game? Not too sure.

Like just lynch me lol. I'd love to see rayn face palm and shit all over the thread and blame it all on me saying it's my fault I made no sense.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
September 16 2015 13:15 GMT
#1247
like rayn, i can sense you getting frustrated because people (e.g. me) aren't "getting" what you're trying to say, but you kinda need to break it down better and explain to me like i am a small child (which is often true anyways)

like you're saying there are things that townies shouldn't be saying/thinking, but I'm more seeing someone who likes to fuck about a bit and is all over the place. where does one become the other? how?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
September 16 2015 13:16 GMT
#1248
On September 16 2015 22:15 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2015 22:11 Palmar wrote:
@rayn

In order to scumread moosy I have to assume way more of his scumgame than I'd normally apply to a guy playing his second game. There is a reason I'm generally good at reading new players, it's because they are usually fairly transparent. It's only when people have played a bunch of games that they start to have a layered approach to mafia. To borrow terminology from another mafia community:

Level 1 mafia is very unlikely to:

1) admit he's been scummy by calling people townreading him suspicious
2) intentionally misremember things or do bad things and expect townreads in return

You're basically asking us to assume moosy is at least level 2 scum. (I still haven't figured out what guys mean when they say levels beyond 1 and 2...)

Actually, when I am Mafia, I do try and replicate my town game as much as possible. Also, this is not my second game. It's my ...6th game? 5th game? Not too sure.

Like just lynch me lol. I'd love to see rayn face palm and shit all over the thread and blame it all on me saying it's my fault I made no sense.

you said you never rolled mafia before?!?!

omg don't make me go on to this agian
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
September 16 2015 13:16 GMT
#1249
Yeah I'm just not going to play until deadline was told to shut up by the great rayn.

Marvs right about waffle though
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
September 16 2015 13:17 GMT
#1250
On September 16 2015 22:12 marvellosity wrote:
i don't even know what levels are

I just saw people use it in that 80 player game I played in.

The idea is that a level 1 player will be very straightforward. For example LightningStrike is permanently on level 1. Level 1 play is often very good play, but it simply means playing mafia like you'd expect. Try not to act suspicious, try to blend in, shoot the townies who are right, don't try to wifom/big play.

Any levels beyond that seem to be when you start to do things that don't make sense on the surface. An example is to do something too scummy to be scum, to shoot people who townread you and try to wifom that into bending other players to you etc etc.
Computer says mafia
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
September 16 2015 13:18 GMT
#1251
ok. that's probably what bugs meant when i first came on to the scene. he described that i had a natural flair for doing what mafia "shouldn't" do right from the get go.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
September 16 2015 13:18 GMT
#1252
On September 16 2015 22:15 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2015 22:11 Palmar wrote:
@rayn

In order to scumread moosy I have to assume way more of his scumgame than I'd normally apply to a guy playing his second game. There is a reason I'm generally good at reading new players, it's because they are usually fairly transparent. It's only when people have played a bunch of games that they start to have a layered approach to mafia. To borrow terminology from another mafia community:

Level 1 mafia is very unlikely to:

1) admit he's been scummy by calling people townreading him suspicious
2) intentionally misremember things or do bad things and expect townreads in return

You're basically asking us to assume moosy is at least level 2 scum. (I still haven't figured out what guys mean when they say levels beyond 1 and 2...)

Actually, when I am Mafia, I do try and replicate my town game as much as possible. Also, this is not my second game. It's my ...6th game? 5th game? Not too sure.

Like just lynch me lol. I'd love to see rayn face palm and shit all over the thread and blame it all on me saying it's my fault I made no sense.

Trying is very different to succeeding.
Computer says mafia
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
September 16 2015 13:18 GMT
#1253
On September 16 2015 22:16 Damdred wrote:
Yeah I'm just not going to play until deadline was told to shut up by the great rayn.

Marvs right about waffle though

which bit?

the stuff in his list post, or the bit where i waffle about him ^^
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
September 16 2015 13:18 GMT
#1254
On September 16 2015 22:16 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2015 22:15 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On September 16 2015 22:11 Palmar wrote:
@rayn

In order to scumread moosy I have to assume way more of his scumgame than I'd normally apply to a guy playing his second game. There is a reason I'm generally good at reading new players, it's because they are usually fairly transparent. It's only when people have played a bunch of games that they start to have a layered approach to mafia. To borrow terminology from another mafia community:

Level 1 mafia is very unlikely to:

1) admit he's been scummy by calling people townreading him suspicious
2) intentionally misremember things or do bad things and expect townreads in return

You're basically asking us to assume moosy is at least level 2 scum. (I still haven't figured out what guys mean when they say levels beyond 1 and 2...)

Actually, when I am Mafia, I do try and replicate my town game as much as possible. Also, this is not my second game. It's my ...6th game? 5th game? Not too sure.

Like just lynch me lol. I'd love to see rayn face palm and shit all over the thread and blame it all on me saying it's my fault I made no sense.

you said you never rolled mafia before?!?!

omg don't make me go on to this agian

:D That's an understanding between me and rayn. I think it's quite touching because I think he's perceiving me as a threat based on our understanding and is scared of me. ho hum.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
September 16 2015 13:19 GMT
#1255
On September 16 2015 22:16 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2015 22:15 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On September 16 2015 22:11 Palmar wrote:
@rayn

In order to scumread moosy I have to assume way more of his scumgame than I'd normally apply to a guy playing his second game. There is a reason I'm generally good at reading new players, it's because they are usually fairly transparent. It's only when people have played a bunch of games that they start to have a layered approach to mafia. To borrow terminology from another mafia community:

Level 1 mafia is very unlikely to:

1) admit he's been scummy by calling people townreading him suspicious
2) intentionally misremember things or do bad things and expect townreads in return

You're basically asking us to assume moosy is at least level 2 scum. (I still haven't figured out what guys mean when they say levels beyond 1 and 2...)

Actually, when I am Mafia, I do try and replicate my town game as much as possible. Also, this is not my second game. It's my ...6th game? 5th game? Not too sure.

Like just lynch me lol. I'd love to see rayn face palm and shit all over the thread and blame it all on me saying it's my fault I made no sense.

you said you never rolled mafia before?!?!

omg don't make me go on to this agian

like i really need an answer to this, because i managed to let it go but now you're saying something different than you did before in the game.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
September 16 2015 13:20 GMT
#1256
On September 16 2015 22:18 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2015 22:16 marvellosity wrote:
On September 16 2015 22:15 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On September 16 2015 22:11 Palmar wrote:
@rayn

In order to scumread moosy I have to assume way more of his scumgame than I'd normally apply to a guy playing his second game. There is a reason I'm generally good at reading new players, it's because they are usually fairly transparent. It's only when people have played a bunch of games that they start to have a layered approach to mafia. To borrow terminology from another mafia community:

Level 1 mafia is very unlikely to:

1) admit he's been scummy by calling people townreading him suspicious
2) intentionally misremember things or do bad things and expect townreads in return

You're basically asking us to assume moosy is at least level 2 scum. (I still haven't figured out what guys mean when they say levels beyond 1 and 2...)

Actually, when I am Mafia, I do try and replicate my town game as much as possible. Also, this is not my second game. It's my ...6th game? 5th game? Not too sure.

Like just lynch me lol. I'd love to see rayn face palm and shit all over the thread and blame it all on me saying it's my fault I made no sense.

you said you never rolled mafia before?!?!

omg don't make me go on to this agian

:D That's an understanding between me and rayn. I think it's quite touching because I think he's perceiving me as a threat based on our understanding and is scared of me. ho hum.

what?

can you just answer me why you said

1) you didn't roll mafia before
2) you did roll mafia before

?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
September 16 2015 13:22 GMT
#1257
On September 16 2015 22:18 marvellosity wrote:
ok. that's probably what bugs meant when i first came on to the scene. he described that i had a natural flair for doing what mafia "shouldn't" do right from the get go.

Take Damdred this game as an example.

Level 1 mafia damdred tries to blend in, is not very helpful and doesn't really commit to shit. He's in general boring, hardly visible and shit. This is how I caught him in Imperial, but I've also taken him for mafia as town based on the same things.

This game damdred comes riding in throwing townreads around like they're candy. What does this mean?

If we assume damdred is level 1 mafia, he must now be town because he's not playing like mafia.
If we assume damdred is capable of level 2 mafia, he might still be scum.

In general I never try to lynch mafia beyond level 1 on day 1, because 90% of mafia are level 1 anyway (this usually includes myself too...)
Computer says mafia
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
September 16 2015 13:22 GMT
#1258
About the post its scummy
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
September 16 2015 13:24 GMT
#1259
also people assuming level 2 play when none exist is the standard rage-inducing thing that happens when people try to lynch me on later days. Especially when I was right on previous days.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
September 16 2015 13:26 GMT
#1260
also holy shit lol, marv is right.

the guy literally claimed to have an idea of how he plays mafia after assuring us he'd never rolled mafia.
Computer says mafia
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