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On September 15 2015 20:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2015 20:08 justanothertownie wrote:On September 15 2015 20:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 15 2015 20:06 justanothertownie wrote:On September 15 2015 20:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 15 2015 20:04 justanothertownie wrote:On September 15 2015 20:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay JAT, if that is not a townread why the fuck do you even make those kinda posts?
And why the fuck do you say "i have given my opinion on geript more than once" when you didn't actually have an opinion until now? Why the fuck do you not bother marv with this shit when he just said the exact same thing about him? because he made a read. you made something that looked like a read and i find your follow up to be inconsistent. No, he waffled about the exact same thing I did. There is 0 inconsistency in what I said. yes there is. you did something that looked like a read. you even said "i have given my opinion on geript". then you said it's not in fact a read. then you give another read on him. The fact that you think that it looked like a read does not mean that it was a read rayn. It wasn't. well then you are lying when you said "i have given my opinion on geript". Like literally lying.
Sure rayn.
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On September 15 2015 20:05 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2015 20:02 marvellosity wrote:
marv
geript
rayn
Koshi
(Damdred)
onegu
Cephiro
ritoky
Palmar
MoosyDoosy
warwaffle
Wile
jat
oh dear
Not bad. If this is serious.
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United Kingdom36161 Posts
can we get out of this semantics trap?
jat at least did make comment on geript more than once (i checked) although he didn't say much about his alignment
like opinion != alignment read right?
jat isn't going to be mafia or town because of this
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On September 15 2015 20:13 marvellosity wrote:
can we get out of this semantics trap?
jat at least did make comment on geript more than once (i checked) although he didn't say much about his alignment
like opinion != alignment read right?
jat isn't going to be mafia or town because of this
Thank you captain obvious.
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On September 15 2015 20:12 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2015 20:05 marvellosity wrote:On September 15 2015 20:02 marvellosity wrote:
marv
geript
rayn
Koshi
(Damdred)
onegu
Cephiro
ritoky
Palmar
MoosyDoosy
warwaffle
Wile
jat
oh dear Not bad. If this is serious.
it wasn't, and it's a great relief to me that you approve of my randomly moved-about list. when i start thinking the same as you, then i get worried
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On September 15 2015 20:13 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2015 20:13 marvellosity wrote:
can we get out of this semantics trap?
jat at least did make comment on geript more than once (i checked) although he didn't say much about his alignment
like opinion != alignment read right?
jat isn't going to be mafia or town because of this Thank you captain obvious.
anytime babe
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Finland43268 Posts
well can you go through you thought process regarding the following posts:
On September 15 2015 08:23 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2015 08:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 15 2015 08:18 justanothertownie wrote:On September 15 2015 08:17 Koshi wrote:On September 15 2015 08:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 15 2015 08:14 geript wrote:
I don't get why anyone thinks Damdred is town. I think he is town because his reads align with mine. dnu mafia Damdred might call me town without base. Also I am not sure that I was that townie 5 posts into the game rofl. But maybe Damdred became a genius. I was Koshi who trained him in his first game. Not really but I take the credit. That's like the only read I really agree with. Okay so why do you disagree with: ritoky town rayn town palmar town geript mafia ? My point was that I do not see any strong reason to read those people one way or the other while for Koshi I do. I think Palmar, geript and you are all easily capable of doing what they have done so far as either alignment.
On September 15 2015 08:27 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2015 08:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 15 2015 08:23 justanothertownie wrote:On September 15 2015 08:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 15 2015 08:18 justanothertownie wrote:On September 15 2015 08:17 Koshi wrote:On September 15 2015 08:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 15 2015 08:14 geript wrote:
I don't get why anyone thinks Damdred is town. I think he is town because his reads align with mine. dnu mafia Damdred might call me town without base. Also I am not sure that I was that townie 5 posts into the game rofl. But maybe Damdred became a genius. I was Koshi who trained him in his first game. Not really but I take the credit. That's like the only read I really agree with. Okay so why do you disagree with: ritoky town rayn town palmar town geript mafia ? My point was that I do not see any strong reason to read those people one way or the other while for Koshi I do. I think Palmar, geript and you are all easily capable of doing what they have done so far as either alignment. what about ritoky and cephiro? and how does geript calling palmar mafia for something palmar did after geript called him mafia make geript not scummy? Sometimes geript just says stupid stuff or has weird opinions noone else shares. It's the sad truth even though the argument looks good on paper. Ritoky also belongs in the list with Palmar/geript/you. Forgot him.
On September 15 2015 17:37 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2015 16:13 Damdred wrote:
I'm glad that someone else saw a problem in wil post I was paranoid I was going a bit off my rocker with my long hours tonight.
I'm about to sleep but... I'm still not sure that geript is mafia like I'm in the spot where I think he's still probably town.
I just think he can be this inconsistent as town but idk....meh I'm sleeping on it Yep, Wiles post was bad and he might be mafia. For geript I also share your concerns. For most people I would call rayns case a pretty damn strong case for day1. But geript is extremely calculated and careful as mafia with very thought out posts [green]while his towngame is nonsensical at times. [/QUOTE]
note here, imo you should be reading him town here as per your own definition.
On September 15 2015 19:55 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2015 19:38 Palmar wrote:
jat did you ever give an opinion on geript? More than once.
On September 15 2015 19:57 justanothertownie wrote:
Geript could be mafia because I have no reason to townread him therefore I am ok with people pushing him. I do not think his contradictory read on Palmar makes him 100 % mafia though.
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I don't understand how you get to these conclusions because they just do not make any sense to me when i thonk about it from your perspective.
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On September 15 2015 20:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:well can you go through you thought process regarding the following posts: Show nested quote +On September 15 2015 08:23 justanothertownie wrote:On September 15 2015 08:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 15 2015 08:18 justanothertownie wrote:On September 15 2015 08:17 Koshi wrote:On September 15 2015 08:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 15 2015 08:14 geript wrote:
I don't get why anyone thinks Damdred is town. I think he is town because his reads align with mine. dnu mafia Damdred might call me town without base. Also I am not sure that I was that townie 5 posts into the game rofl. But maybe Damdred became a genius. I was Koshi who trained him in his first game. Not really but I take the credit. That's like the only read I really agree with. Okay so why do you disagree with: ritoky town rayn town palmar town geript mafia ? My point was that I do not see any strong reason to read those people one way or the other while for Koshi I do. I think Palmar, geript and you are all easily capable of doing what they have done so far as either alignment. Show nested quote +On September 15 2015 08:27 justanothertownie wrote:On September 15 2015 08:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 15 2015 08:23 justanothertownie wrote:On September 15 2015 08:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 15 2015 08:18 justanothertownie wrote:On September 15 2015 08:17 Koshi wrote:On September 15 2015 08:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 15 2015 08:14 geript wrote:
I don't get why anyone thinks Damdred is town. I think he is town because his reads align with mine. dnu mafia Damdred might call me town without base. Also I am not sure that I was that townie 5 posts into the game rofl. But maybe Damdred became a genius. I was Koshi who trained him in his first game. Not really but I take the credit. That's like the only read I really agree with. Okay so why do you disagree with: ritoky town rayn town palmar town geript mafia ? My point was that I do not see any strong reason to read those people one way or the other while for Koshi I do. I think Palmar, geript and you are all easily capable of doing what they have done so far as either alignment. what about ritoky and cephiro? and how does geript calling palmar mafia for something palmar did after geript called him mafia make geript not scummy? Sometimes geript just says stupid stuff or has weird opinions noone else shares. It's the sad truth even though the argument looks good on paper. Ritoky also belongs in the list with Palmar/geript/you. Forgot him. Show nested quote +On September 15 2015 17:37 justanothertownie wrote:On September 15 2015 16:13 Damdred wrote:
I'm glad that someone else saw a problem in wil post I was paranoid I was going a bit off my rocker with my long hours tonight.
I'm about to sleep but... I'm still not sure that geript is mafia like I'm in the spot where I think he's still probably town.
I just think he can be this inconsistent as town but idk....meh I'm sleeping on it Yep, Wiles post was bad and he might be mafia. For geript I also share your concerns. For most people I would call rayns case a pretty damn strong case for day1. But geript is extremely calculated and careful as mafia with very thought out posts [green]while his towngame is nonsensical at times.
note here, imo you should be reading him town here as per your own definition.
On September 15 2015 19:55 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2015 19:38 Palmar wrote:
jat did you ever give an opinion on geript? More than once.
On September 15 2015 19:57 justanothertownie wrote:
Geript could be mafia because I have no reason to townread him therefore I am ok with people pushing him. I do not think his contradictory read on Palmar makes him 100 % mafia though.
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I don't understand how you get to these conclusions because they just do not make any sense to me when i thonk about it from your perspective.[/QUOTE]
I literally say the same thing in all those posts. Maybe you should try thinking harder.
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The only new thing is that I actually give a "not towny" read on geript in the last one.
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Finland43268 Posts
Okay i try to make it more clear:
I think geript is easily capable of doing what he has done so far as either alignment.
this is fine
Sometimes geript just says stupid stuff or has weird opinions noone else shares. It's the sad truth even though the argument looks good on paper.
this is also fine
geript is extremely calculated and careful as mafia with very thought out posts while his towngame is nonsensical at times.
now this is not fine because in this very game he is doing the underlined, and not the bolded, so you SHOULD, as per your own definition have at least a town lean on him.
Geript could be mafia because I have no reason to townread him
but instead you say this.
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I am never lynching rayn this game.
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Like rayn, I see your problem and the way you are pushing me for it is really fucking towny. You think that I was actually indicating a townread on geript with the earlier posts but that just isn't the case. I just felt the need to bring my point up since you seemed convinced that the Palmar thing made geript mafia which I don't think it necessarily does.
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On September 15 2015 20:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:Okay i try to make it more clear: Show nested quote +I think geript is easily capable of doing what he has done so far as either alignment. this is fine Show nested quote +Sometimes geript just says stupid stuff or has weird opinions noone else shares. It's the sad truth even though the argument looks good on paper. this is also fine Show nested quote +geript is extremely calculated and careful as mafia with very thought out posts while his towngame is nonsensical at times. now this is not fine because in this very game he is doing the underlined, and not the bolded, so you SHOULD, as per your own definition have at least a town lean on him. but instead you say this.
What I describe there are general trends. It does not mean that geript can never be nonsensical as mafia.
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For the uninitiated.
This is rayn's absolute forte as town. Both the pushes he has made so far (jat/geript) are based on spotting something that is inconsistent or not sensible and attacking it. This is literally how he finds mafia every time he does so. This is the most rayn thing in the universe.
I even have an IRC log between rayn marv and I where we're discussing exactly this. I have no faith rayn can be faking this.
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On September 15 2015 20:25 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2015 20:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:Okay i try to make it more clear: I think geript is easily capable of doing what he has done so far as either alignment. this is fine Sometimes geript just says stupid stuff or has weird opinions noone else shares. It's the sad truth even though the argument looks good on paper. this is also fine geript is extremely calculated and careful as mafia with very thought out posts while his towngame is nonsensical at times. now this is not fine because in this very game he is doing the underlined, and not the bolded, so you SHOULD, as per your own definition have at least a town lean on him. Geript could be mafia because I have no reason to townread him but instead you say this. What I describe there are general trends. It does not mean that geript can never be nonsensical as mafia.
this is not a game of "never". this is a game of "most likely".
you should know that.
like;
apparently you don't find any of his posts in themselves scummy.
apparently you don't find any of his posts in themselves townie either.
so everything is left is meta, to make a read, if you make one.
you make one, so explain this:
from the post of yours i quoted, where does geript do the bolded part, and how do you explain he does not do the underlined? Because if you can't, you are going directly against the meta you YOURSELF have on him, and it makes you mafia.
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On September 15 2015 20:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2015 20:25 justanothertownie wrote:On September 15 2015 20:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:Okay i try to make it more clear: I think geript is easily capable of doing what he has done so far as either alignment. this is fine Sometimes geript just says stupid stuff or has weird opinions noone else shares. It's the sad truth even though the argument looks good on paper. this is also fine geript is extremely calculated and careful as mafia with very thought out posts while his towngame is nonsensical at times. now this is not fine because in this very game he is doing the underlined, and not the bolded, so you SHOULD, as per your own definition have at least a town lean on him. Geript could be mafia because I have no reason to townread him but instead you say this. What I describe there are general trends. It does not mean that geript can never be nonsensical as mafia. this is not a game of "never". this is a game of "most likely". you should know that. like; apparently you don't find any of his posts in themselves scummy. apparently you don't find any of his posts in themselves townie either. so everything is left is meta, to make a read, if you make one. you make one, so explain this: from the post of yours i quoted, where does geript do the bolded part, and how do you explain he does not do the underlined? Because if you can't, you are going directly against the meta you YOURSELF have on him, and it makes you mafia.
No, it doesn't. I explained this in detail already.
Geript made a nonsensical read on Palmar.
You pushed geript in a very convinced manner.
I brought up that geript sometimes is nonsensical as town and that his mafia game is more calculated even though the point itself is very strong.
I never townread geript.
I said geript could be mafia because there is no reason to townread him.
Now you are going on about how him being nonsensical should lead to me townreading him. That's a strictly logical conclusion but mafia is NOT a game of black and white. Him doing something contradictory does NOT mean he has to be town and his play apart from it wasn't towny so why would I townread him.
This is the last time I will explain this to you and I only bothered to do so repeatedly because I think you are town.
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On September 15 2015 20:02 marvellosity wrote:
Having skimmed over again and read what people wrote about geript's read on Palmar, it's one of those things that feel like he *should* be mafia, but the point about geript's calculatedness as mafia (which i also feel) sticks with me.
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This guy is sheeping my point on geript while also putting him in his scumlist. He is doing the exact same thing I do. Either we are both mafia or your argument does not make me mafia.
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On September 15 2015 20:36 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On September 15 2015 20:02 marvellosity wrote:
Having skimmed over again and read what people wrote about geript's read on Palmar, it's one of those things that feel like he *should* be mafia, but the point about geript's calculatedness as mafia (which i also feel) sticks with me.
^ This guy is sheeping my point on geript while also putting him in his scumlist. He is doing the exact same thing I do. Either we are both mafia or your argument does not make me mafia.
let's lynch you both and find out.
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I am not saying he should be a clean townread for you.
I am saying he should not be a scumread for you because he does things you think are more likely to come from town!geript than mafia!geript (unless you ofc prove where i am wrong, which you havent done).
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And marv has nothing to do with this.
What a fucking sneaky way to try get out of the argument.
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