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ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
September 24 2015 22:02 GMT
#2941
idk that's just kinda bleh. last minute palm -> jat; instantly marv -> moosy. can be read as marv floating then ensuring teammate doesn't die. but if jat is mafia there with 3 mins left and risk of shennanie, i have to believe he is more self-preservationist...which makes it end up being a wash and kinda useless like i said.

anyone else got any opinions on those votes or is it useless? damdred?

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“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16342 Posts
September 24 2015 22:08 GMT
#2942
On September 25 2015 07:02 ritoky wrote:
idk that's just kinda bleh. last minute palm -> jat; instantly marv -> moosy. can be read as marv floating then ensuring teammate doesn't die. but if jat is mafia there with 3 mins left and risk of shennanie, i have to believe he is more self-preservationist...which makes it end up being a wash and kinda useless like i said.

anyone else got any opinions on those votes or is it useless? damdred?

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You can ignore the self preservationist approach since I simply wasn't around. You could make the argument that I would probably have checked my phone once in a while as mafia but I also wasn't aware the deadline was :30 instead of :00.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16342 Posts
September 24 2015 22:09 GMT
#2943
Not that any of this is relevant.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
September 24 2015 22:16 GMT
#2944
Obviously d1 is the only time that's interesting (maybe geript voting wile before the claim d2 but we will never know there).
Before Marc came and invited cerph he was leading the vote over moosey and jat by a fair margin. At that point at least.

Marc does invite for no reason to me and totally stops pushing him,when he was here eod, already eliminated jat s(him being cerph). Previously Marc kept saying how crummy he was and if not for,meta would be 5x more crummy.

When I looked through Mar vs filter he haphazardly pushed him past that just mentioning him in passing without any real thoughts.

That being said if cerph is town there's no reason foe scum Marc to push him d1 when rayn is yelling for sheep. But it's also a great opportunity to save a partner.

On the flip,side it could point to a hat scum with no other mafia wanting to go on him. But qifom if it's sl I think he hammers jat for lolz post game and town cred as its the most likely play for sl.

Overall it,makes me think cerph is scum, marv saves partner by unvoting going on moosey. Had two town wagons d1 with a scum losing reaction d1 due to myself and rayn.

That's just me atm, there are other possibilities such as Palomar but I don't think,so.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
September 24 2015 22:24 GMT
#2945
On September 25 2015 07:08 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2015 07:02 ritoky wrote:
idk that's just kinda bleh. last minute palm -> jat; instantly marv -> moosy. can be read as marv floating then ensuring teammate doesn't die. but if jat is mafia there with 3 mins left and risk of shennanie, i have to believe he is more self-preservationist...which makes it end up being a wash and kinda useless like i said.

anyone else got any opinions on those votes or is it useless? damdred?

[image loading]

You can ignore the self preservationist approach since I simply wasn't around. You could make the argument that I would probably have checked my phone once in a while as mafia but I also wasn't aware the deadline was :30 instead of :00.

marv also forgot the deadline on day 1.

jat/marv dreamteam confirmed.
Computer says mafia
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
September 24 2015 23:07 GMT
#2946
Also obviously I'm confirmed town now.
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
September 24 2015 23:45 GMT
#2947
On September 25 2015 08:07 Damdred wrote:
Also obviously I'm confirmed town now.


?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Cephiro
Profile Joined May 2011
Finland1934 Posts
September 24 2015 23:59 GMT
#2948
Around, gonna re-read, post my opinions on all the relevant players (Jat, geript, Palmar, Damdred).

If I don't faint from bashing my head against the wall too much, because reading this shit makes me regret signing up for this game. Mostly due to these two reasons:

1) I do not understand how the fuck someone thinks it's possible for me to be part of a Wile+marv scumteam as the third person with how I've played. I've pointed out why and quoted my own case explaining why that doesn't happen even if hell froze over, so it's really making me wonder how thick Damdred is or if he has to go for me because he's scum and thinks he won't get anyone else lynched.

2) Fucking. Activity. Bullshit. Can you fucking stop repeating the same retarded shit over and over again? I've come around to post whenever it has been relevant and had time to do so. You people are out of your fucking minds if you think the best way to play mafia is to argue with everyone for the sake of arguing and getting filter for the first 10 pages, then talk about how fucking huge your penis is for the next 10. Just because I'm not around the moment you want me to be doesn't mean I don't care about the game. So go shove a clock up your asses and listen to it tick if you don't have anything better to do.

Related to the time thing, I will be traveling most of tomorrow and will only be partially available later on closer to the lynch deadline. (Unless internet abandons me at my destination for w/e reason).

So after I'm done re-reading and posting my stuff, feel free to ask questions if you're around, because after that you'll have to wait till near lynchtime.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
September 25 2015 00:20 GMT
#2949
On September 25 2015 08:45 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2015 08:07 Damdred wrote:
Also obviously I'm confirmed town now.


?


In two games at the same time, hosted by Palomar and Marv. I totally afkd that game to rather play this game because I couldn't be assed in my favorite setup to put in effort here.

Obviously I'm town. You have now lost soul read status on me rot and that makes me a sad
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
September 25 2015 00:24 GMT
#2950
On September 25 2015 08:59 Cephiro wrote:
Around, gonna re-read, post my opinions on all the relevant players (Jat, geript, Palmar, Damdred).

If I don't faint from bashing my head against the wall too much, because reading this shit makes me regret signing up for this game. Mostly due to these two reasons:

1) I do not understand how the fuck someone thinks it's possible for me to be part of a Wile+marv scumteam as the third person with how I've played. I've pointed out why and quoted my own case explaining why that doesn't happen even if hell froze over, so it's really making me wonder how thick Damdred is or if he has to go for me because he's scum and thinks he won't get anyone else lynched.

2) Fucking. Activity. Bullshit. Can you fucking stop repeating the same retarded shit over and over again? I've come around to post whenever it has been relevant and had time to do so. You people are out of your fucking minds if you think the best way to play mafia is to argue with everyone for the sake of arguing and getting filter for the first 10 pages, then talk about how fucking huge your penis is for the next 10. Just because I'm not around the moment you want me to be doesn't mean I don't care about the game. So go shove a clock up your asses and listen to it tick if you don't have anything better to do.

Related to the time thing, I will be traveling most of tomorrow and will only be partially available later on closer to the lynch deadline. (Unless internet abandons me at my destination for w/e reason).

So after I'm done re-reading and posting my stuff, feel free to ask questions if you're around, because after that you'll have to wait till near lynchtime.


1) we have spent the majority of the game discussing why anyone could be scum. So being,butt hurt against legitimate reasoning is bad.

2) Activity is indicative to an extent no matter how you turn it. Only certain players can maintain high activity, you are a lurjer and you aren't even up for lynch. You haven't participated in the game past d1 to any extent, besides complaining about things that aren't even happening ie dick reassuring for the most part.

You aren't helping town and you are a liability if I was scum I'd lynch geript then you in lylo. That's the right play.
Cephiro
Profile Joined May 2011
Finland1934 Posts
September 25 2015 04:13 GMT
#2951
Finally finished reading (had to take a small break half way through JAT's filter), but I'd say it was worth it. Extremely unlikely I'll be changing my mind on anything from this point on.
My reads:

Ceph - Towniest Town
ritoky - "Confirmed" Town ("'s because he hasn't flipped yet, but obv town..)
Palmar - As close to conf town as you can get
Jat - Very likely town
geript - Slight chance of being scum
Damdred - Extremely likely scum

From my perspective this is done, as I'm confident enough that town Palmar/JAT are not going to mislynch into me, so we roll with a Damdred lynch today and if he somehow flips town (not happening though), then we lynch geript and win anyway.

I'll post a proper case on why Dam is the last remaining scum once I've done my traveling (Expect a case to be posted around 4-6 hours left in deadline), as I'm about to miss my bus if I don't finish packing and leave now (long trip too.)

But in short the main reasons are:

1) Interaction with confirmed scum (Dam/Wile + Dam/marv) [Traces of this in my marv case]
2) Read progression on the currently unconfirmed players alive (Mostly on me, jat, to a small extent geript also)
3) Plays exactly the only way a scumdred would have any chance of winning the game with (can't waffle more on JAT, see read progression, has to 1v1 Ceph and get geript lynched because he will never get palmar lynched)
3b) See what is happening right now, been discrediting and casting shade on me for a fair bit now (And guess when that started? Yeah, when things started to go downhill for mafia and every plausible scenario involves a mislynch into me. Too bad for you that I've been intentionally downplaying to the extent of still being around but being a "valid" mislynch target for this very reason.) See how he's not really opposing a geript lynch (even though he talks about how he townreads him? he's more like "Oh I guess it can't be helped if you all think geript is mafia", instead of pushing for his scumread..) because it fits his agenda. What he should be doing at the moment if he was town was nothing but convince everyone to get his top scumread lynched (me).

But instead you have this:
On September 25 2015 06:11 Damdred wrote:
Well I agree that I'm,not trying to lynch my scum atm but trying to not lynch a tr to a point meh.


##vote: Damdred

I'll elaborate on further reasoning once I'm available again as per post, but don't expect anything from me until then, as it simply can't be helped even if I wanted to participate more. With that, I'm off. See you all closer to lynch deadline.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
September 25 2015 05:02 GMT
#2952
If JAT is town, I hope scum wins.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
September 25 2015 05:05 GMT
#2953
1) Pushed wile halfway d1 backed off near eod for a point people thought was decent. Sucks but it is what it is, idk how it makes me scum though(?)

2) This point is nai, its basically going into mylo tommorow I'm looking ay everyone and reinforcing my reads where I can. Three people jat, palmar and ceph only two do I think have a higher possibility of flipping scum.

3) I need two mislynches if I'm scum. I can't push geript tommorow if he isn't lynched today which I don't want. If I can't waffle on anyone like you claim I've already lost, and obviously you don't know how a scumdred plays.

And the quote itself you use to justify voting me contradicts your 3b point directly. I'm trying to advert the geript lynch which will result in my scum read being lynched.

Overall nothing presented here makes me mafia at all, and its made in such a way that when I flip town he can just move on to geript next or vice versa.

Never explains why x or y are lock town such as palmar.

idk if its to dumb to be scum or not is the bad thing.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
September 25 2015 05:09 GMT
#2954
Really I hope JAT loses. I hope he continues to play like ass. I hope he keeps on playing and people start lynching him for having a 30 page tilter that literally says nothing. I will policy shoot him from now on because he's a god awful player.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
September 25 2015 05:12 GMT
#2955
The only problem is I like winning and you when you aren't being stubborn like winning.

Right now isn't the time to be stubborn. I have issues with jat which we can talk about tommorow if you can avert the lunch today. I am pretty sure your town.

Look at cephs post and tell me if its mafia oriented or dumb town.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
September 25 2015 05:24 GMT
#2956
I don't know. I don't care. I want to lynch JAT and then Ceph if JAT is town.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
September 25 2015 05:27 GMT
#2957
Rit isn't going to side with you geript in the least and I won't have the lynched left to be safe in that regard.

Now I think your town but you have to help me here
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
September 25 2015 05:50 GMT
#2958
Sorry can't. Like I've said everything there is to say. I want JAT dead. He's likely the scum. He's literally lied about a billion things so far. Cba to do more. Not when people don't even bother to read what I have said.

Like it's really clear JAT has never read anything I've written. So I just hope he loses.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
September 25 2015 06:13 GMT
#2959
But if he's scum you are giving him the win basically like you said nobody will vote him in lylo and if I think he's scum then I'm just up crap creek. And I'll be lynched in lylo

As it stands you can either roll over die and lylo happens with me ceph jat and palmar (on a weekend ffs) or you can play and help town win.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
September 25 2015 06:20 GMT
#2960
If people won't listen, I don't give a shit. I can't convince them. I don't have the time or energy. It's their fault they think his 20+ pages of literally doing nothing, providing no analysis ever, lying about what people think/thought, misrepresenting people's opinions, ignoring every good reason to townread people, discrediting good reads for shoddy at best reasoning, etc. etc etc.

Like if he's town. He deserves to lose just as much as I do. Sure I've been wrong but I've spent a shift on more time than I should have on this game. If he's scum, then its cephalothorax/palmar/ritoky who are being retarded.

I literally give no shits. Like if im ever Mafia with him I will bus the shit out of him. Do not care.
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