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On September 21 2015 07:53 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2015 07:51 geript wrote:On September 21 2015 07:16 ritoky wrote:On September 21 2015 07:13 geript wrote:
I don't get it. I've made reads pretty clearly. Palmar is town. Marv is town. Damdred is town. Ceph is kinda likely-ish to be town. Scott is 98% town. Koshi is dead but town. Like there's not much that has changed. So everyone calling me scum can kindly drop to your knees and do your duty.
Like I'm not scum. Theres like a million good reasons for why I'm not scum. i'll take 3 of those million. lay em on me. so who's mafia? onegu? Yah probably Onegu was. Mod confirm. The D1 Damdred read. My flip on Palmar. My bad Rayn tunnel. General giving no shits after like N1. Me voting for Wile for a god awful reason. Like I'll do most anything as either alignment but I think the major difference between my scum play and town play is when I'm scum I need to be in control of the thread. That doesn't mean everyone has to sheep me, but I don't like being "at town's whim." I don't like trying to let town ever organize. I prefer to wholly disrupt any and all ability to trust anyone but me. I'll spend time to focus people on reasonable but useless rabbit trails. I bank up thread control to spend it at key points. That's basically the opposite of, for the most part, irrelevant player I've been. Even when I'm busy scum I do my best to positively contribute to the team. If you are town you have a team too, you know? Time to start doing the bolded.
I'm doing the best I can with the time I can allot to this game.
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On September 21 2015 13:14 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2015 07:53 justanothertownie wrote:On September 21 2015 07:51 geript wrote:On September 21 2015 07:16 ritoky wrote:On September 21 2015 07:13 geript wrote:
I don't get it. I've made reads pretty clearly. Palmar is town. Marv is town. Damdred is town. Ceph is kinda likely-ish to be town. Scott is 98% town. Koshi is dead but town. Like there's not much that has changed. So everyone calling me scum can kindly drop to your knees and do your duty.
Like I'm not scum. Theres like a million good reasons for why I'm not scum. i'll take 3 of those million. lay em on me. so who's mafia? onegu? Yah probably Onegu was. Mod confirm. The D1 Damdred read. My flip on Palmar. My bad Rayn tunnel. General giving no shits after like N1. Me voting for Wile for a god awful reason. Like I'll do most anything as either alignment but I think the major difference between my scum play and town play is when I'm scum I need to be in control of the thread. That doesn't mean everyone has to sheep me, but I don't like being "at town's whim." I don't like trying to let town ever organize. I prefer to wholly disrupt any and all ability to trust anyone but me. I'll spend time to focus people on reasonable but useless rabbit trails. I bank up thread control to spend it at key points. That's basically the opposite of, for the most part, irrelevant player I've been. Even when I'm busy scum I do my best to positively contribute to the team. If you are town you have a team too, you know? Time to start doing the bolded. I'm doing the best I can with the time I can allot to this game.
The best you can is not very good then because if it isn't you then you are literally townreading all the remaining mafia. Time to rethink.
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So what we should be doing is this I guess:
##Vote: marvellosity
If he is shitting townie rainbows when he returns we can switch to damdred but it doesn't feel like voting that guy right now really achieves anything.
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hiyo. looong long weekend and only 2 hours sleep last night, so i'm gonna be a little slow today.
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Awesome timing.
You are confirmed mafia. Koshi said you are scum and he would vote you.
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those last 2 sentences don't go together very well ^^
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So I'm not sure what to do here. Here's some generic thoughts.
scott won't get lynched this game, I think. Yes I know he's a replacement and replacements are always mafia. The problem is we don't know how many mislynches we have. Scott needs to continue posting if he's town because there definitely exists a scenario where he buses a teammate (although vigi+mason+mason seems kinda weak).
Another thing. I didn't mention this last night or yesterday or whenever I was berating JAT and geript for not reading the OP, but I do not really see any option for a limited-shot tracker. (look at the difference in wording between the vigi and all the "each night" roles). if scott is tracker he has unlimited shots. This means either mafia wasn't aware of this, or (probably more likely) they're not afraid of a tracker at all (ie: they have a godfather). Or obviously, that scott is actually just mafia. But I have no interest in sorting out tinfoil hat scenarios, at least not now, so I'm treating him as confirmed town. Props to him/his team if it's a play.
If we assume Onegu is mafia, Damdred can only be mafia if he is a godfather. But more importantly I don't want to lynch Damdred. I still believe the points I brought up on him make him town. I don't even care that wile eventually flipped mafia. Damdred's point about wile was a townie train of thought from Damdred. Like I know there exist multiple mechanical scenarios where Damdred is mafia but who cares, he doesn't sound like one.
I'm going to read Damdred's filter later because so many people seem to think he's likely scum but for now meh.
ritoky is obviously confirmed, mafia has no option for a vigilante.
This leaves ceph/marv/jat/geript. All of them have good reasons to be called mafia. I almost feel like this game is "figure out jat or marv (one way or the other), figure out the game".
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Like I'm not gonna argue about the damdred thing unless people get actually close to lynching him.
It's a super daunting task to read marv and jat's filter. Like there's probably no people (well holyflare is up there) whose filter I despise reading more than those two.
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On September 21 2015 18:44 Palmar wrote:
So I'm not sure what to do here. Here's some generic thoughts.
scott won't get lynched this game, I think. Yes I know he's a replacement and replacements are always mafia. The problem is we don't know how many mislynches we have. Scott needs to continue posting if he's town because there definitely exists a scenario where he buses a teammate (although vigi+mason+mason seems kinda weak).
Another thing. I didn't mention this last night or yesterday or whenever I was berating JAT and geript for not reading the OP, but I do not really see any option for a limited-shot tracker. (look at the difference in wording between the vigi and all the "each night" roles). if scott is tracker he has unlimited shots. This means either mafia wasn't aware of this, or (probably more likely) they're not afraid of a tracker at all (ie: they have a godfather). Or obviously, that scott is actually just mafia. But I have no interest in sorting out tinfoil hat scenarios, at least not now, so I'm treating him as confirmed town. Props to him/his team if it's a play.
If we assume Onegu is mafia, Damdred can only be mafia if he is a godfather. But more importantly I don't want to lynch Damdred. I still believe the points I brought up on him make him town. I don't even care that wile eventually flipped mafia. Damdred's point about wile was a townie train of thought from Damdred. Like I know there exist multiple mechanical scenarios where Damdred is mafia but who cares, he doesn't sound like one.
I'm going to read Damdred's filter later because so many people seem to think he's likely scum but for now meh.
ritoky is obviously confirmed, mafia has no option for a vigilante.
This leaves ceph/marv/jat/geript. All of them have good reasons to be called mafia. I almost feel like this game is "figure out jat or marv (one way or the other), figure out the game".
Wow, good thing we have you to tell us what's up. It's not like I already said all of this.
The setup is most likely tracker/vigi/masons vs GF/janitor/rb and yes, we do not need to worry about scott before LYLO as far as I am concerned and even then I do not think he is mafia.
You will have to explain this damdred read because I do not see it at all.
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On September 21 2015 18:45 Palmar wrote:
Like I'm not gonna argue about the damdred thing unless people get actually close to lynching him.
It's a super daunting task to read marv and jat's filter. Like there's probably no people (well holyflare is up there) whose filter I despise reading more than those two.
Then I'll advise you to start with marv. It is shorter and more likely mafia.
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About the geript thing and why it bothers me so much.
I like geript, and I think he's a nice, reasonable guy. In order for him to blow up on ceph like that because of real life stress, he has to be far more emotional than I think he is. Like I talk to geript on ts, play with him here and stuff, and it's just way out of his character range. Like if geript was really (and I believe he was) stressed out by his rl, the attitude I would have thought he brought to the game is more in the lieu of:
"dude.... please. Just back the fuck off. rl is shit and I don't have the willpower to argue with your shit right now so just stop it please"
Instead of the caps lock (it was caps, right?) tirade he went on.
Maybe I just don't know geript. But it seemed excessive.
Also, this:
On September 21 2015 13:14 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2015 07:53 justanothertownie wrote:On September 21 2015 07:51 geript wrote:On September 21 2015 07:16 ritoky wrote:On September 21 2015 07:13 geript wrote:
I don't get it. I've made reads pretty clearly. Palmar is town. Marv is town. Damdred is town. Ceph is kinda likely-ish to be town. Scott is 98% town. Koshi is dead but town. Like there's not much that has changed. So everyone calling me scum can kindly drop to your knees and do your duty.
Like I'm not scum. Theres like a million good reasons for why I'm not scum. i'll take 3 of those million. lay em on me. so who's mafia? onegu? Yah probably Onegu was. Mod confirm. The D1 Damdred read. My flip on Palmar. My bad Rayn tunnel. General giving no shits after like N1. Me voting for Wile for a god awful reason. Like I'll do most anything as either alignment but I think the major difference between my scum play and town play is when I'm scum I need to be in control of the thread. That doesn't mean everyone has to sheep me, but I don't like being "at town's whim." I don't like trying to let town ever organize. I prefer to wholly disrupt any and all ability to trust anyone but me. I'll spend time to focus people on reasonable but useless rabbit trails. I bank up thread control to spend it at key points. That's basically the opposite of, for the most part, irrelevant player I've been. Even when I'm busy scum I do my best to positively contribute to the team. If you are town you have a team too, you know? Time to start doing the bolded. I'm doing the best I can with the time I can allot to this game.
Is kinda not true, but it's also not a thing that makes him mafia to think. I'm mostly pointing out that he's being extremely useless if he's town. Not that it makes him 100% mafia.
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On September 21 2015 18:48 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2015 18:44 Palmar wrote:
So I'm not sure what to do here. Here's some generic thoughts.
scott won't get lynched this game, I think. Yes I know he's a replacement and replacements are always mafia. The problem is we don't know how many mislynches we have. Scott needs to continue posting if he's town because there definitely exists a scenario where he buses a teammate (although vigi+mason+mason seems kinda weak).
Another thing. I didn't mention this last night or yesterday or whenever I was berating JAT and geript for not reading the OP, but I do not really see any option for a limited-shot tracker. (look at the difference in wording between the vigi and all the "each night" roles). if scott is tracker he has unlimited shots. This means either mafia wasn't aware of this, or (probably more likely) they're not afraid of a tracker at all (ie: they have a godfather). Or obviously, that scott is actually just mafia. But I have no interest in sorting out tinfoil hat scenarios, at least not now, so I'm treating him as confirmed town. Props to him/his team if it's a play.
If we assume Onegu is mafia, Damdred can only be mafia if he is a godfather. But more importantly I don't want to lynch Damdred. I still believe the points I brought up on him make him town. I don't even care that wile eventually flipped mafia. Damdred's point about wile was a townie train of thought from Damdred. Like I know there exist multiple mechanical scenarios where Damdred is mafia but who cares, he doesn't sound like one.
I'm going to read Damdred's filter later because so many people seem to think he's likely scum but for now meh.
ritoky is obviously confirmed, mafia has no option for a vigilante.
This leaves ceph/marv/jat/geript. All of them have good reasons to be called mafia. I almost feel like this game is "figure out jat or marv (one way or the other), figure out the game".
Wow, good thing we have you to tell us what's up. It's not like I already said all of this. The setup is most likely tracker/vigi/masons vs GF/janitor/rb and yes, we do not need to worry about scott before LYLO as far as I am concerned and even then I do not think he is mafia. You will have to explain this damdred read because I do not see it at all.
Who cares about damdred, you want to lynch marv, right?
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On September 21 2015 18:51 Palmar wrote:About the geript thing and why it bothers me so much. I like geript, and I think he's a nice, reasonable guy. In order for him to blow up on ceph like that because of real life stress, he has to be far more emotional than I think he is. Like I talk to geript on ts, play with him here and stuff, and it's just way out of his character range. Like if geript was really (and I believe he was) stressed out by his rl, the attitude I would have thought he brought to the game is more in the lieu of: "dude.... please. Just back the fuck off. rl is shit and I don't have the willpower to argue with your shit right now so just stop it please" Instead of the caps lock (it was caps, right?) tirade he went on. Maybe I just don't know geript. But it seemed excessive. Also, this: Show nested quote +On September 21 2015 13:14 geript wrote:On September 21 2015 07:53 justanothertownie wrote:On September 21 2015 07:51 geript wrote:On September 21 2015 07:16 ritoky wrote:On September 21 2015 07:13 geript wrote:
I don't get it. I've made reads pretty clearly. Palmar is town. Marv is town. Damdred is town. Ceph is kinda likely-ish to be town. Scott is 98% town. Koshi is dead but town. Like there's not much that has changed. So everyone calling me scum can kindly drop to your knees and do your duty.
Like I'm not scum. Theres like a million good reasons for why I'm not scum. i'll take 3 of those million. lay em on me. so who's mafia? onegu? Yah probably Onegu was. Mod confirm. The D1 Damdred read. My flip on Palmar. My bad Rayn tunnel. General giving no shits after like N1. Me voting for Wile for a god awful reason. Like I'll do most anything as either alignment but I think the major difference between my scum play and town play is when I'm scum I need to be in control of the thread. That doesn't mean everyone has to sheep me, but I don't like being "at town's whim." I don't like trying to let town ever organize. I prefer to wholly disrupt any and all ability to trust anyone but me. I'll spend time to focus people on reasonable but useless rabbit trails. I bank up thread control to spend it at key points. That's basically the opposite of, for the most part, irrelevant player I've been. Even when I'm busy scum I do my best to positively contribute to the team. If you are town you have a team too, you know? Time to start doing the bolded. I'm doing the best I can with the time I can allot to this game. Is kinda not true, but it's also not a thing that makes him mafia to think. I'm mostly pointing out that he's being extremely useless if he's town. Not that it makes him 100% mafia.
u srs?
You would not expect geript to blow up? He has done it countless times.
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On September 21 2015 18:52 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2015 18:48 justanothertownie wrote:On September 21 2015 18:44 Palmar wrote:
So I'm not sure what to do here. Here's some generic thoughts.
scott won't get lynched this game, I think. Yes I know he's a replacement and replacements are always mafia. The problem is we don't know how many mislynches we have. Scott needs to continue posting if he's town because there definitely exists a scenario where he buses a teammate (although vigi+mason+mason seems kinda weak).
Another thing. I didn't mention this last night or yesterday or whenever I was berating JAT and geript for not reading the OP, but I do not really see any option for a limited-shot tracker. (look at the difference in wording between the vigi and all the "each night" roles). if scott is tracker he has unlimited shots. This means either mafia wasn't aware of this, or (probably more likely) they're not afraid of a tracker at all (ie: they have a godfather). Or obviously, that scott is actually just mafia. But I have no interest in sorting out tinfoil hat scenarios, at least not now, so I'm treating him as confirmed town. Props to him/his team if it's a play.
If we assume Onegu is mafia, Damdred can only be mafia if he is a godfather. But more importantly I don't want to lynch Damdred. I still believe the points I brought up on him make him town. I don't even care that wile eventually flipped mafia. Damdred's point about wile was a townie train of thought from Damdred. Like I know there exist multiple mechanical scenarios where Damdred is mafia but who cares, he doesn't sound like one.
I'm going to read Damdred's filter later because so many people seem to think he's likely scum but for now meh.
ritoky is obviously confirmed, mafia has no option for a vigilante.
This leaves ceph/marv/jat/geript. All of them have good reasons to be called mafia. I almost feel like this game is "figure out jat or marv (one way or the other), figure out the game".
Wow, good thing we have you to tell us what's up. It's not like I already said all of this. The setup is most likely tracker/vigi/masons vs GF/janitor/rb and yes, we do not need to worry about scott before LYLO as far as I am concerned and even then I do not think he is mafia. You will have to explain this damdred read because I do not see it at all. Who cares about damdred, you want to lynch marv, right?
I want to lynch between marv and damdred. I think I made that very clear.
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On September 21 2015 18:53 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2015 18:51 Palmar wrote:About the geript thing and why it bothers me so much. I like geript, and I think he's a nice, reasonable guy. In order for him to blow up on ceph like that because of real life stress, he has to be far more emotional than I think he is. Like I talk to geript on ts, play with him here and stuff, and it's just way out of his character range. Like if geript was really (and I believe he was) stressed out by his rl, the attitude I would have thought he brought to the game is more in the lieu of: "dude.... please. Just back the fuck off. rl is shit and I don't have the willpower to argue with your shit right now so just stop it please" Instead of the caps lock (it was caps, right?) tirade he went on. Maybe I just don't know geript. But it seemed excessive. Also, this: On September 21 2015 13:14 geript wrote:On September 21 2015 07:53 justanothertownie wrote:On September 21 2015 07:51 geript wrote:On September 21 2015 07:16 ritoky wrote:On September 21 2015 07:13 geript wrote:
I don't get it. I've made reads pretty clearly. Palmar is town. Marv is town. Damdred is town. Ceph is kinda likely-ish to be town. Scott is 98% town. Koshi is dead but town. Like there's not much that has changed. So everyone calling me scum can kindly drop to your knees and do your duty.
Like I'm not scum. Theres like a million good reasons for why I'm not scum. i'll take 3 of those million. lay em on me. so who's mafia? onegu? Yah probably Onegu was. Mod confirm. The D1 Damdred read. My flip on Palmar. My bad Rayn tunnel. General giving no shits after like N1. Me voting for Wile for a god awful reason. Like I'll do most anything as either alignment but I think the major difference between my scum play and town play is when I'm scum I need to be in control of the thread. That doesn't mean everyone has to sheep me, but I don't like being "at town's whim." I don't like trying to let town ever organize. I prefer to wholly disrupt any and all ability to trust anyone but me. I'll spend time to focus people on reasonable but useless rabbit trails. I bank up thread control to spend it at key points. That's basically the opposite of, for the most part, irrelevant player I've been. Even when I'm busy scum I do my best to positively contribute to the team. If you are town you have a team too, you know? Time to start doing the bolded. I'm doing the best I can with the time I can allot to this game. Is kinda not true, but it's also not a thing that makes him mafia to think. I'm mostly pointing out that he's being extremely useless if he's town. Not that it makes him 100% mafia. u srs? You would not expect geript to blow up? He has done it countless times.
Yeah, but not over real life stuff. He gets mad all the time, but it's the palmar kind of mad. This was another level of mad.
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On September 21 2015 18:53 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2015 18:52 Palmar wrote:On September 21 2015 18:48 justanothertownie wrote:On September 21 2015 18:44 Palmar wrote:
So I'm not sure what to do here. Here's some generic thoughts.
scott won't get lynched this game, I think. Yes I know he's a replacement and replacements are always mafia. The problem is we don't know how many mislynches we have. Scott needs to continue posting if he's town because there definitely exists a scenario where he buses a teammate (although vigi+mason+mason seems kinda weak).
Another thing. I didn't mention this last night or yesterday or whenever I was berating JAT and geript for not reading the OP, but I do not really see any option for a limited-shot tracker. (look at the difference in wording between the vigi and all the "each night" roles). if scott is tracker he has unlimited shots. This means either mafia wasn't aware of this, or (probably more likely) they're not afraid of a tracker at all (ie: they have a godfather). Or obviously, that scott is actually just mafia. But I have no interest in sorting out tinfoil hat scenarios, at least not now, so I'm treating him as confirmed town. Props to him/his team if it's a play.
If we assume Onegu is mafia, Damdred can only be mafia if he is a godfather. But more importantly I don't want to lynch Damdred. I still believe the points I brought up on him make him town. I don't even care that wile eventually flipped mafia. Damdred's point about wile was a townie train of thought from Damdred. Like I know there exist multiple mechanical scenarios where Damdred is mafia but who cares, he doesn't sound like one.
I'm going to read Damdred's filter later because so many people seem to think he's likely scum but for now meh.
ritoky is obviously confirmed, mafia has no option for a vigilante.
This leaves ceph/marv/jat/geript. All of them have good reasons to be called mafia. I almost feel like this game is "figure out jat or marv (one way or the other), figure out the game".
Wow, good thing we have you to tell us what's up. It's not like I already said all of this. The setup is most likely tracker/vigi/masons vs GF/janitor/rb and yes, we do not need to worry about scott before LYLO as far as I am concerned and even then I do not think he is mafia. You will have to explain this damdred read because I do not see it at all. Who cares about damdred, you want to lynch marv, right? I want to lynch between marv and damdred. I think I made that very clear.
pick one.
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On September 21 2015 18:30 marvellosity wrote:
hiyo. looong long weekend and only 2 hours sleep last night, so i'm gonna be a little slow today.
##vote marvellosity
It's your time to shine baby. I expect a solved game on my desk by 5pm
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On September 21 2015 18:54 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2015 18:53 justanothertownie wrote:On September 21 2015 18:52 Palmar wrote:On September 21 2015 18:48 justanothertownie wrote:On September 21 2015 18:44 Palmar wrote:
So I'm not sure what to do here. Here's some generic thoughts.
scott won't get lynched this game, I think. Yes I know he's a replacement and replacements are always mafia. The problem is we don't know how many mislynches we have. Scott needs to continue posting if he's town because there definitely exists a scenario where he buses a teammate (although vigi+mason+mason seems kinda weak).
Another thing. I didn't mention this last night or yesterday or whenever I was berating JAT and geript for not reading the OP, but I do not really see any option for a limited-shot tracker. (look at the difference in wording between the vigi and all the "each night" roles). if scott is tracker he has unlimited shots. This means either mafia wasn't aware of this, or (probably more likely) they're not afraid of a tracker at all (ie: they have a godfather). Or obviously, that scott is actually just mafia. But I have no interest in sorting out tinfoil hat scenarios, at least not now, so I'm treating him as confirmed town. Props to him/his team if it's a play.
If we assume Onegu is mafia, Damdred can only be mafia if he is a godfather. But more importantly I don't want to lynch Damdred. I still believe the points I brought up on him make him town. I don't even care that wile eventually flipped mafia. Damdred's point about wile was a townie train of thought from Damdred. Like I know there exist multiple mechanical scenarios where Damdred is mafia but who cares, he doesn't sound like one.
I'm going to read Damdred's filter later because so many people seem to think he's likely scum but for now meh.
ritoky is obviously confirmed, mafia has no option for a vigilante.
This leaves ceph/marv/jat/geript. All of them have good reasons to be called mafia. I almost feel like this game is "figure out jat or marv (one way or the other), figure out the game".
Wow, good thing we have you to tell us what's up. It's not like I already said all of this. The setup is most likely tracker/vigi/masons vs GF/janitor/rb and yes, we do not need to worry about scott before LYLO as far as I am concerned and even then I do not think he is mafia. You will have to explain this damdred read because I do not see it at all. Who cares about damdred, you want to lynch marv, right? I want to lynch between marv and damdred. I think I made that very clear. pick one.
I don't need to pick one before they do stuff. My thoughts are all in the thread for you to read.
The way to go is push marv today until he either proves his innocence or dies. If the former happens lynch damdred.
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