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On September 08 2015 09:05 Fidei86 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 08 2015 08:58 MoosyDoosy wrote:
eh. i still think it's copcake + fidei with someone else but i might be getting too tunneled. fidei comes off looking worse from this. BEFORE I GO TO BED I WANT TO POINT OUT IN ALL CAPITALS THAT MOOSY HAS NEITHER OF THE CLAIMED F****** DOCTORS IN HIS F****** SCUM LIST. LIKE IT MIGHT NOT BE EITHER OF THEM? Are you kidding me with this shit?
i actually have thoughts on that but i'd rather not say.
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i need to take a step back from this game. basically my entire game view is based off of the fact that copcake is scum but for some reason no one is reading her the same way that i am.
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On September 08 2015 09:09 Fidei86 wrote:
Like we get a CC to a d1 claim made at the deadline, and the best MD can come up with is he might have been framed and therefore GB is town, Scott is town and cake and I are Mafia because ... I made a typo and Cake ... Reasons?
i already said i don't think you're mafia because of typo. continue to refuse to read my posts. when i already explained my read progression on n00bKing you still refused to read that and continuously badgered me about it afterwards. you only dropped it once n00bKing flipped town and you had to shut up. your whole basis on scum reading me in the first place was that i was hard reading n00bKing as town and that i was his scum mate. now that you're proven wrong you for some reason still want to push me when your reasoning has proven false.
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On September 08 2015 09:09 Fidei86 wrote:
Like we get a CC to a d1 claim made at the deadline, and the best MD can come up with is he might have been framed and therefore GB is town, Scott is town and cake and I are Mafia because ... I made a typo and Cake ... Reasons?
also for the framing thing i was talking about myself. yamato getting killed would obviously tip me and glowingbear into a red light. killing rayn wouldn't serve the same purpose and i also think that he was too obvious of a doctor target for mafia to kill him. the thing is that if i think like this, then gb is town.
on the other hand, i have been continuously reading copcake and you as scum but EVERYONE seems to think copcake is town. that obviously gives me pause.
also my whole mentality at this point is based off of copcake being scum so i think i'm being tunneled.
...although if you had to ask i still think she's scum.
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On September 08 2015 09:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 08 2015 08:58 MoosyDoosy wrote:
eh. i still think it's copcake + fidei with someone else but i might be getting too tunneled. fidei comes off looking worse from this. this guy is also mafia. Show nested quote +On September 08 2015 09:05 Fidei86 wrote:On September 08 2015 08:58 MoosyDoosy wrote:
eh. i still think it's copcake + fidei with someone else but i might be getting too tunneled. fidei comes off looking worse from this. BEFORE I GO TO BED I WANT TO POINT OUT IN ALL CAPITALS THAT MOOSY HAS NEITHER OF THE CLAIMED F****** DOCTORS IN HIS F****** SCUM LIST. LIKE IT MIGHT NOT BE EITHER OF THEM? Are you kidding me with this shit? this guy is not.
how is fidei not mafia?
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On September 08 2015 09:24 Superbia wrote:
I'm here. Moosydoosy what do you make of the claims?
rayn counterclaims because he's angry and thinks gb is bad at the game.
i still think gb claim is BS.
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I am ready to carry town if you all are.
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On September 08 2015 09:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 08 2015 09:26 MoosyDoosy wrote:On September 08 2015 09:24 Superbia wrote:
I'm here. Moosydoosy what do you make of the claims? rayn counterclaims because he's angry and thinks gb is bad at the game. i still think gb claim is BS. fuck you i literally counter claimed because GB claimed my role and is not a doctor. If GB flips town doctor you lynch me the next day. It is simple as that. And you don't think neither of us is mafia which automatically makes you scum.
no this can be false because i think you are angry as you are right now and that you're putting enough faith into your gb read to try and kill him.
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Great. My town circle is here. Should I carry town starting from now?
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On September 08 2015 09:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 08 2015 09:28 MoosyDoosy wrote:On September 08 2015 09:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 08 2015 09:26 MoosyDoosy wrote:On September 08 2015 09:24 Superbia wrote:
I'm here. Moosydoosy what do you make of the claims? rayn counterclaims because he's angry and thinks gb is bad at the game. i still think gb claim is BS. fuck you i literally counter claimed because GB claimed my role and is not a doctor. If GB flips town doctor you lynch me the next day. It is simple as that. And you don't think neither of us is mafia which automatically makes you scum. no this can be false because i think you are angry as you are right now and that you're putting enough faith into your gb read to try and kill him. You are so fucked when he flips mafia.
no i am not. you are fucked if you don't listen to me.
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On September 08 2015 09:30 Superbia wrote:
Why is copcake mafia?
if rayn is willing to calm down and listen i will provide why she is mafia.
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On September 08 2015 09:34 Superbia wrote:Show nested quote +On September 08 2015 09:30 MoosyDoosy wrote:On September 08 2015 09:30 Superbia wrote:
Why is copcake mafia? if rayn is willing to calm down and listen i will provide why she is mafia. Just letters on a screen. Present the case please.
c00l one mo im adding one little bit at the end.
...rayn are you willing to at least read through the whole thing please?
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On September 08 2015 09:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 08 2015 09:43 MoosyDoosy wrote:On September 08 2015 09:34 Superbia wrote:On September 08 2015 09:30 MoosyDoosy wrote:On September 08 2015 09:30 Superbia wrote:
Why is copcake mafia? if rayn is willing to calm down and listen i will provide why she is mafia. Just letters on a screen. Present the case please. c00l one mo im adding one little bit at the end. ...rayn are you willing to at least read through the whole thing please? nope
w0w ok. i hope you don't throw this game for town m8. and i hope everyone else is more reasonable.
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My gigantic case on CopCake. I suggest you read all of it because every bit relates to each other which is important.
1. CopCake gets hung up over inconsequential details and attempts to blow them out of proportion.
+ Show Spoiler +Cop asks me this pointless question early on which is easily explained and gets hung up over it. Just because I’m able to notice that they’re good friends shows in no way that I’m Mafia. It’s NAI or just shows that I’m perceptive. On September 05 2015 09:46 CopCake wrote:
Sorry I am busy and how can Moosy be town?
Like he said "rayn calmed down when cake arrived"
Like how the fuck does he has that kind of info that we get along extremely too well?
That's why I asked he says he was playing but he got it extremely right.
+ Show Spoiler +My comment was a joke but she tries to make something out of it. On September 05 2015 08:29 MoosyDoosy wrote:
i like how rayn immediately becomes less angry when copcake entered the thread. we need to keep her alive to calm him down l0l. On September 05 2015 08:42 CopCake wrote:
How exactly "rayn calmed down" when I got in?
Couldn't he just calmed down on his own?
2. She continuously brings up points that were already addressed in an attempt to fill her arguments with filler.
+ Show Spoiler +Here I explain how I noticed rayn and her were good friends and she accepts it readily. On September 05 2015 09:51 CopCake wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2015 09:49 MoosyDoosy wrote:On September 05 2015 09:46 CopCake wrote:
Sorry I am busy and how can Moosy be town?
Like he said "rayn calmed down when cake arrived"
Like how the fuck does he has that kind of info that we get along extremely too well?
That's why I asked he says he was playing but he got it extremely right. um...ok. this is generally irrelevant imo but i'll answer. it's pretty obvious. first pre-game there are these golden posts: On August 31 2015 23:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I am not sure but i think i need to ask if i am allowed to "hydra" with Vivax from thursday -> in case i am alive, for obvious reasons.
Cake should be joining at least, idk when, i'll ask her when i get a chance. On September 02 2015 07:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
cakeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! these posts show that he's going to be nice around you. then when u enter the thread he stopped cursing immediately and started using smiley face emoticons. (  ) also, my post was in no way serious. i was just making a joke there while noting a possible association. Oh ok, that explains it, sorry. Then…I’m scum read for it again in this post of hers? On September 06 2015 06:10 CopCake wrote:
For the list so far that has been participating:
MoosyDoosy: He has an obsessions with my posts and i don't know why. When I arrived he said "rayn calmed down when cake arrived" which is like ???? he claims it is because rayn got happy in the sign up thread but it kinda looked like he was waiting for me. Since then he hasn't fucked stopped. He claims that my posts are "useless" and I beg to differ. He also says that I have been pocketing people (lol the workd pocketing) which is NOT TRUE because I am like, getting my own info on my own way, if I was POCKETING people I have my own ways and I have been doing a bad job pocketing if people have eyes on me, no? Oh the irony, so yeah you also fucking need to stop people to ASK WHAT DO YOU THINK? AND SHARE WHAT THE FUCK YOU THING BESIDES ME if you are fucking town, i don't know why rayn thinks you are town, effort? that's what people is saying so far but you just checking every step i do with a giant glass is what i don't call effort. When you asked glowing bear about what he thinks your answer was just "mmm" I mean it looks like you REALLY TRIED and CARED for his opinnion, I think you are pretending to put effort but you are actually doing nothing, you are just doing a mimic of what a town looks like. "HEY LOOK AT ME I AM ASKING QUESTIONS HEY EMINEM SONG" and guess what? you stopped to share eminem songs or whatever when i called out your bullshit.
+ Show Spoiler +My post about rayn calming down once CopCake joined was also more of a joke AND I still explained it for her benefit but she STILL brings it up in the very same post. On September 06 2015 06:10 CopCake wrote:
For the list so far that has been participating:
MoosyDoosy: He has an obsessions with my posts and i don't know why. When I arrived he said “rayn calmed down when cake arrived" which is like ???? he claims it is because rayn got happy in the sign up thread but it kinda looked like he was waiting for me. Since then he hasn't fucked stopped. He claims that my posts are "useless" and I beg to differ. He also says that I have been pocketing people (lol the workd pocketing) which is NOT TRUE because I am like, getting my own info on my own way, if I was POCKETING people I have my own ways and I have been doing a bad job pocketing if people have eyes on me, no? Oh the irony, so yeah you also fucking need to stop people to ASK WHAT DO YOU THINK? AND SHARE WHAT THE FUCK YOU THING BESIDES ME if you are fucking town, i don't know why rayn thinks you are town, effort? that's what people is saying so far but you just checking every step i do with a giant glass is what i don't call effort. When you asked glowing bear about what he thinks your answer was just "mmm" I mean it looks like you REALLY TRIED and CARED for his opinnion, I think you are pretending to put effort but you are actually doing nothing, you are just doing a mimic of what a town looks like. "HEY LOOK AT ME I AM ASKING QUESTIONS HEY EMINEM SONG" and guess what? you stopped to share eminem songs or whatever when i called out your bullshit.
+ Show Spoiler +I’ve already explained half her points but she brings them up again in order to make it look like her argument is compelling and has basis. In fact, she tries to stress it in her next post. On September 06 2015 06:12 CopCake wrote:
Omg i wrote the biggest post so far this round.
3. CopCake’s tone. Yes. Tone is part of this case.
+ Show Spoiler +Her tone is VERY anti-town. Rather than pressuring people, she attempts to demean them which creates a bad town atmosphere. The following posts serve no other purpose in the thread other than to create filler and belittle others. On September 05 2015 10:38 CopCake wrote:
someone is FROZEN On September 05 2015 10:55 CopCake wrote:
Ok, let me predict the next post of moosy
"lol bla bla bla i can't explain it"
"insert some eminem song and a joke haha town"
On September 05 2015 11:32 CopCake wrote:
The fact he doesn't realize STUFF is pretty telling tho << talking about noobking. On September 05 2015 11:57 CopCake wrote:
No reasons, how cute.
This is like the third time you have been saying that shit.
+ Show Spoiler +If this was how she posts every time then I would accept it. After all, rayn has a very aggressive tone and isn’t afraid to push his weight around. HOWEVER, CopCake freely admits that her tone is fake. On September 05 2015 11:07 CopCake wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2015 11:03 MoosyDoosy wrote:On September 05 2015 10:55 CopCake wrote:
Ok, let me predict the next post of moosy
"lol bla bla bla i can't explain it"
"insert some eminem song and a joke haha town"
nothing substantials. 1. seemed intent on misunderstanding wat i was saying early on 2. ur posts seem too intent on being nooby for my liking 3. u said ur not sheeping rayn, when ur sheeping him on n00bking. 4. in ur post on n00bking, u never came to a real conclusion, but now ur voting for him. 1.- This is a community in which only few people know me. Pretty few people know me and rayn get a long too well and love to play with each other. I missunderstood you and I say sorry. It's pretty ok for me to panic when someone knows details about me and just makes me wonder "how do they know this shit", it's obvious. 2.- I am not nooby, in fact I am bragging a lot. 3.- I am not sheeping rayn, he changed his vote to alakazam and i am on noobking, i even said he is frozen. 4.- Never came in a real conclusion? I didn't like he hasn't come and is fighting me when 5 min ago or less he was being pretty active, he got FROZEN, he doesn't have an answer. This game will be easy. If you go back and read her posts, they are clearly an act. She’s trying to seem confident and tries to throw her weight around and establish thread presence. These are all things Mafia would do to try and pull of mislynches. Here she’s creating bad town atmosphere with me and n00bKing in order to create the thread presence to lynch us. (btw, I didn’t fall for this although n00bKing sadly did)
+ Show Spoiler +I don’t like to keep bringing this up, but this post just clearly outlines how she’s trying to create bad town atmosphere. On September 06 2015 06:10 CopCake wrote:
For the list so far that has been participating:
MoosyDoosy: He has an obsessions with my posts and i don't know why. When I arrived he said "rayn calmed down when cake arrived" which is like ???? he claims it is because rayn got happy in the sign up thread but it kinda looked like he was waiting for me. Since then he hasn't fucked stopped. He claims that my posts are "useless" and I beg to differ. He also says that I have been pocketing people (lol the workd pocketing) which is NOT TRUE because I am like, getting my own info on my own way, if I was POCKETING people I have my own ways and I have been doing a bad job pocketing if people have eyes on me, no? Oh the irony, so yeah you also fucking need to stop people to ASK WHAT DO YOU THINK? AND SHARE WHAT THE FUCK YOU THING BESIDES ME if you are fucking town, i don't know why rayn thinks you are town, effort? that's what people is saying so far but you just checking every step i do with a giant glass is what i don't call effort. When you asked glowing bear about what he thinks your answer was just "mmm" I mean it looks like you REALLY TRIED and CARED for his opinnion, I think you are pretending to put effort but you are actually doing nothing, you are just doing a mimic of what a town looks like. "HEY LOOK AT ME I AM ASKING QUESTIONS HEY EMINEM SONG" and guess what? you stopped to share eminem songs or whatever when i called out your bullshit. Besides being full of filler as I already pointed out, this whole thing tries to make it look like I’m making little sense when I’ve already explained away half her arguments. I know I’m focusing a bit on the parts where she interacts with me, but the same goes for n00bKing. She’s trying to create easy mislynches on the the both of us especially since I associate myself so much with n00bKing who everyone is reading as Mafia.
+ Show Spoiler +I’d also like people to look back carefully at my interaction with CopCake. I ALWAYS make the effort to respond calmly. I ALWAYS make the effort to explain why I’m doing what I’m doing and give reasons for my reads when she asks. But in return all she does is yell at me and get worked up over my calm answers. This is because she’s feeling the pressure from being pointed out as Mafia. A townie would calmly brush away the suspicion but she’s caught and attempts to clear the suspicion through yelling and making it seem like my answers are bad.
4. CopCake tries to pocket.
+ Show Spoiler +As we all know, rayn doesn’t pull his punches and he has big thread presence. It would make absolute sense for Mafia to cuddle up to him in order to be townread and defended by him. These posts just show that she’s trying to do this where she defends him (for bad reasons which I’ll get to) and tries to lynch the same person as him (for bad reasons which I’ll get to). On September 05 2015 10:21 CopCake wrote:
Besides when rayn is mafia he nip tick pretty shitty things and goes like "oh but i know this person, her tone is this etc" like when he got rsoultin in day 1 in one game.
When rayn uses more "tone reads and emotional reads" he tends to be mafia. On September 05 2015 11:09 CopCake wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2015 11:06 n00bKing wrote:On September 05 2015 10:35 CopCake wrote:
look at my post where i say why i consider him town, because i won't accept "analyzing little details" as an answer.
There IS no post where you say you consider rayn Town, much less give an explanation for why you would consider him Town. There is a post where you say "When rayn uses more 'tone reads and emotional reads' he tends to be mafia." And that could be taken as an insinuation that rayn could be Town....IF it weren't for the FACT that he's used tone reads or emotional reads in THIS game. Look at what he has said about how he determined the allegiances of Alakaslam and yamato. They are both "tonereads" at best, if not better described as "reads based on literally nothing at all." Then he goes bonkers over a little bit of nothing from both Breshke and GlowingBear, and nothing helps to create a poor Town atmosphere for catching Scum more than jumping at those sorts of inconsequential bits of nothing, and trying to turn them into major talking points. It distracts the Town from actually doing anything productive. He would later say "My arguments on yamato and Slam are in fact really fucking good" which is laugh-out-loud preposterous. Says he's 95% sure Alakaslam is Mafia and 98% sure that I am. Why would a TOWN player ever want to take up space in the thread spouting stupid crap like that? Even more useless (somehow?) are posts such as: "Like i am literally the towniest person in this game." There is never any reason for a Town player to say something like this. The name of the game is for the Town players to work together, and create conditions where the Scum players cannot conceal themselves. With that goal in mind, everything rayn does is wrong. Dude there's one thing that makes rayn PRETTY TOWNIE and a fucking OBVIOUS ONE. The whole thing when GB claimed. Pls. On September 05 2015 11:54 CopCake wrote:
Rayn soneji killed you in the other game.
I am laughing so hard. On September 05 2015 10:17 CopCake wrote:
I don't like noobking for this things:
> How he voted you
> Then he is like saying you are not using logic. To be fair yeah, sometimes YOU DON'T MAKE LOGIC but to SOME PEOPLE, to some of us we find your arguments pretty good but
but the BIG BUT IS
> it doesn't matter if you are going in circles or not making "sense" (which is subjective) when you put a lot of effort and are agressive asking is pretty much a big town lean of you so I don't know where he gets you might be mafia.
Besides it's pretty obvious for the way you took Glowing bear claim. On September 05 2015 10:35 CopCake wrote:
Eh ok.
Noobking
TALK TO ME
and tell me why rayn is mafia in YOUR EYES.
look at my post where i say why i consider him town, because i won't accept "analyzing little details" as an answer.
I hope you understand that.
5. CopCake uses terrible reasoning and isn’t clearly reading the thread.
+ Show Spoiler +As promised, I’ll point out why her defense of rayn is so bad. First is this post: On September 05 2015 11:09 CopCake wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2015 11:06 n00bKing wrote:On September 05 2015 10:35 CopCake wrote:
look at my post where i say why i consider him town, because i won't accept "analyzing little details" as an answer.
There IS no post where you say you consider rayn Town, much less give an explanation for why you would consider him Town. There is a post where you say "When rayn uses more 'tone reads and emotional reads' he tends to be mafia." And that could be taken as an insinuation that rayn could be Town....IF it weren't for the FACT that he's used tone reads or emotional reads in THIS game. Look at what he has said about how he determined the allegiances of Alakaslam and yamato. They are both "tonereads" at best, if not better described as "reads based on literally nothing at all." Then he goes bonkers over a little bit of nothing from both Breshke and GlowingBear, and nothing helps to create a poor Town atmosphere for catching Scum more than jumping at those sorts of inconsequential bits of nothing, and trying to turn them into major talking points. It distracts the Town from actually doing anything productive. He would later say "My arguments on yamato and Slam are in fact really fucking good" which is laugh-out-loud preposterous. Says he's 95% sure Alakaslam is Mafia and 98% sure that I am. Why would a TOWN player ever want to take up space in the thread spouting stupid crap like that? Even more useless (somehow?) are posts such as: "Like i am literally the towniest person in this game." There is never any reason for a Town player to say something like this. The name of the game is for the Town players to work together, and create conditions where the Scum players cannot conceal themselves. With that goal in mind, everything rayn does is wrong. Dude there's one thing that makes rayn PRETTY TOWNIE and a fucking OBVIOUS ONE. The whole thing when GB claimed. Pls. This DOES NOT show rayn is town but in fact shows that he is Mafia. Mafia would try and get hung up over little details and blow them out of proportion to force a mislynch. The only reason why rayn would be read as town this early is meta: basically his eagerness to dive into the thread and his standard aggressive townie manner.
+ Show Spoiler +CopCake’s arguments to vote n00bKing are terrible as well. This is her case against him: On September 05 2015 10:17 CopCake wrote:
I don't like noobking for this things:
> How he voted you
> Then he is like saying you are not using logic. To be fair yeah, sometimes YOU DON'T MAKE LOGIC but to SOME PEOPLE, to some of us we find your arguments pretty good but
but the BIG BUT IS
> it doesn't matter if you are going in circles or not making "sense" (which is subjective) when you put a lot of effort and are agressive asking is pretty much a big town lean of you so I don't know where he gets you might be mafia.
Besides it's pretty obvious for the way you took Glowing bear claim. Point 1 makes no sense. There have been some points stated against rayn (which I’ll go into in the next spoiler) but she brushes them aside. There is no reason to immediately say that rayn is town but she does so almost as if she has TMI. Point 2 makes less sense. It’s not even a point. “You sometimes don’t make logic to some people, but because you make logic to some people which is subjective, so you are town because you are aggressive.” She talks about two different things (logic and rayn’s aggressiveness) and…I’m sorry but I don’t even know. The part after the but makes no sense either. My head hurts trying to read this.
+ Show Spoiler +Now she asks n00bKing why rayn’s Mafia which has been provided a BUNCH of times. Here’s her question: On September 05 2015 10:35 CopCake wrote:
Eh ok.
Noobking
TALK TO ME
and tell me why rayn is mafia in YOUR EYES.
look at my post where i say why i consider him town, because i won't accept "analyzing little details" as an answer.
I hope you understand that. The points against rayn at that point in the game are as follows. 1. He was using meta reads for Alakaslam when he normally uses harder material. 2. He was using tone reads for yamato77 when he normally uses harder material. 3. He doesn’t seem to question his reads afterwards on both Alakaslam and yamato but easily gives way that Slam is probably town and continues to maintain that yamato is town with no question. 4. He blowed the GlowingBear claim out of proportion when it was a joke. The interesting thing is that CopCake says that rayn normally doesn’t use meta and town reads: On September 05 2015 10:21 CopCake wrote:
Besides when rayn is mafia he nip tick pretty shitty things and goes like "oh but i know this person, her tone is this etc" like when he got rsoultin in day 1 in one game.
When rayn uses more "tone reads and emotional reads" he tends to be mafia. But here he is CLEARLY doing that but she thinks that he’s town?? Meanwhile she reads both me AND n00bKing as scum for pointing this out. This is a DIRECT CONTRADICTION. This shows she’s not reading the thread and she’s trying hard to force a mislynch. Note that she doesn’t even follow up on this either even though BOTH of us have explained this.
6. She’s now hiding
+ Show Spoiler +Self-explanatory. Literally non-existent now. Speaks for itself. While rayn and Fidei are hammering at me about not posting a stance on the claims, she gets away with it? I think that rayn is too biased when it comes to her, but Fidei. Okay. Posting case now at Superbia’s request.
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On September 08 2015 09:49 CopCake wrote:
Probably moosy as i said before and maybe someone who is in the shadows trying to not have too much attention, probs bershke
feeling the pressure? 
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On September 08 2015 09:51 CopCake wrote:
Nah, more like you are getting the guns at you.
trying not to lynch your scum panda glowing bear?
nope. i'm just absolutely confident you and fidei are mafia buddies.
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On September 08 2015 09:52 NocturneMage wrote:
Yeah MD I also took issue with #3, she blew that out of proportion by saying you were antagonising her. Like I read around her response to you. Her comment against you is bullshit.
what do you think about the case in general?
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On September 08 2015 09:55 CopCake wrote:You are going to vote me when there is confirmed mafia in glowing bear? wtf? yeah gg you are the other mafia
-shrugs- it may be you, Fidei, and GB but I'm content with killing you first.
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See? Even now she tries to make me angry for no reason. She's muddling the thread.
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