Newbie Student Mafia XIV: Firefly - Page 8

On September 09 2015 02:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
N1 there are only three plausible scenarios, from likeliest to unlikeliest:
1) GlowingBear is mafia and does not get shot
2) I doc GlowingBear (which i did) in case he is just a terrible townie saving his own skin from getting lynched by fakeclaiming -> noone dies -> GB is confirmed town
3) I die -> GB is confirmed mafia.

On September 09 2015 02:28 Fidei86 wrote:


1. IDK, this is strange, since he'd basically be outing the cop. One explanation is that, as the medic, he'd be able to save the cop n1. But yeah, this is sub-optimal play because the medic can't save the same person on consecutive nights. Just as well the cop didn't claim, I guess. Still, this doesn't make him mafia, it just makes him wrong.

2. If he hadn't moved, he would have made himself an excellent choice for blue-sniping. He was an okay choice for mafia to shoot anyway, honestly, but still. If he says "I am never ever moving off GB ever", he definitely wears the shot and the roleblock. IDK, trying to WIFOM mafia night actions is hard, but this is probably the explanation that makes most sense.

3. Meh, maybe he thought that my argument (don't lynch GB because flips will out him in due course anyway) made him think that people weren't going to be up for lynching you today, so he thought he'd lead town in a more productive direction.

In conclusion, yes, I agree the above are sub-optimal play / strange. But there is no way that they outweigh the fact that the other two options are:

- rayn is mafia, and he CC'd you, thereby ensuring his death D3, where he would have been in no difficulty otherwise. Also his CC was so early in the day that it can't have been intended to save a scum-mate under pressure - nobody was under any pressure yet! This is just a terrible, terrible, terrible play from a mafia rayn, and it seems super unlikely.
- rayn is VT. In which case he gets the aforementioned nad kicking for being the worst townie ever in the history of my experience in mafia.

On September 09 2015 03:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Yeah sure. Like any mafia team would keep the non-cc'd power role alive. It's plain out retarded.
Keep that up scum.

On September 08 2015 06:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I think the following people are mafia:

NocturneMage, Slam, Fidei.

meh i don't fucking know, maybe i am wrong on one of those and Moosy is actualyl scum.
There is a chance GlowingBear is scum, but it will sort out itself anyways so i don't really care.

I don't really feel like writing a lot of stuff now.

NM:
totally isn't reading the thread properly. There are things like:

noobking himself said he wasn't pushing me. he is either not reading, or for some reason doesn't care.
Furthermore he scumreads both noobking and Cake. Apparently noobkign was just being terrible all game but there was ZERO chance both of noobking and Cake are mafia, so scumreading both of htem makes absolutely no sense. Like his reads are not logical, and they do not make any sense at all. He isn't listening to what other people say at all. He is just calling some people scum for no reason.

Fidei feels like he is not even in the game. Like he is just here and not doing anything at all. idk... i can't explain it better, he jsut isn't doing anything. And the vote switch from GB to boxer was super terrible, there is no way ANYONE should do that if they want to save someone. There was no chance boxerfred is gonna get lynched either way.

Slam is scum. I don't care yamato, sorry. He is just scum because he isn't listening to me and he is not answering me. He dodges fucking questions and i don't like it. Kill with fire.

If i am wrong on something then it's probably Moosy who is the last mafia. The noobking/cake read he had is like super bad and feels like he just wants two townies lynched.

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If you are do not lynch Cake on D2. She is not mafia and you should not trust people who want to lynch her. Mafia is gonna try that 100%. I promise. Glowingbear if you are town get your head out of your fucking ass and eat roleblocks for the rest of the game. Also if you do not doc me you are terrible as fuck. I don't care what you think. You have been super bad in this game and now is time to start playing properly if you are not mafia.

yamato you can do this. I believe in you and Cake. Work together please and solve this shit.
boxerfred and scott are not scum either. When they posted they talked about relevant things and had logical conclusions on stuff. If you compare this to for example James there is a huge fucking difference in how they approach the game. It should be really easy to see. Those are also lynches mafia is going to push (boxer/scott), they are easy to lynch because they do not generally post much. Townies do not fall into the trap. Superbia is not mafia either, ESPECIALLY if GB is town. It doesn't make any sense for him to push the lynch against GB if that was the case. If GB is mafia, i'd put Superbia into null-category. That could make sense. Although atm i do not believe GB to be mafia so only if he is scum and you guys catch him somehow, then re-evaluate Superbia.

Mafia is basically in NM, James, Slam, Moosy(?) and GB(?).
The last one will sort itself out, so do not worry about him. He'll claim roleblocked anyways. Do not claim in case GB is scum and you are blue, until someone who is town (basically not from the list above) is gonna get lynched.

I would probably lynch Slam on D2. His posts have zero substance, and they don't even make any sense from slam!logic!pov. Again, he fails to answer questions that are super clear. Do not let him get away with it.

I am sorry i did that on D1.
goodluck

On September 09 2015 03:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:

yeah so you conclusde that i would cc you on N1 which is even more retarded than cc'ing you on D1. lol.

On September 09 2015 03:37 Fidei86 wrote:
The only way this Rayn scum play makes sense is if he was betting on some dumb townies defending him to the hilt and then incriminating them upon his death. That would be kind of smart, I guess. But also super risky. Also in this scenario I'm the "dumb townie", so I choose not to believe it :-)

On September 09 2015 03:40 CopCake wrote:
Either way, let's say rayn is scum

1.- why would HE CLAIM DOCTOR if he was mafia? I mean he could be like "I already won town cred why the fuck do i need to claim doctor" it doesn't make sense, like seriously it doesnt, he is cc GB because GB just SAID HE PROTECTED SOMEONE. We lynch GB he does, shows up as doctor rayn is pretty much GG next day.

2.- For all those who have that case on me, I am sorry but I still can't see why I am mafia with that, I am not pocketing people, I do what I have to do and I just dont blindly ship.

On September 10 2015 03:53 scott31337 wrote:


Glowingbear If you are town, you should leave a last will for your memory.

But I'm about 95% sure you are not, so just spill the last two mafia since we will find them anyway <3

On September 22 2015 08:55 kitaman27 wrote:


^ 3-0 as mafia when lynched day 2. Stop carrying this guy!

On September 22 2015 13:25 Damdred wrote:
Imo never take being bussed as an issue

It happens GB was dead in the water the right play was to bus. The bus on you cc wasn't amazing but its what it was he still carried the game.

If you bus you have to carry. You might not like him and it might not of been as fun but you won.

And maybe his attitude wasn't the best but nobodys was at that point in qt

On September 23 2015 02:27 n00bKing wrote:
Day 1 I list 4 different reasons why CopCake is Scum, and vote against her all day. Late Day 1, after yamato has put GB in trouble, he makes a terrible Doctor claim. I call it out as BS (twice) and switch to him.

My voting history:

##Vote: CopCake

##Unvote ##Vote: GlowingBear

EASY GAME. :D

I selected rayn for the non-vote, because I was virtually certain that if he was Town, he would be the easiest player in the game (probably the easiest player on the SITE) for me to manipulate. And I couldn't have asked for the strategy to work any better for me than it did. As it enabled me to completely eliminate rayn as a suspect (hence where I say that rayn was "doing all of the Scum team's work for them", which can only be true if he's Town) so that I can promptly stop reading anything he says. And when he predictably tries to put together a push on me, I pegged CopCake jumping on board in precisely the spot where I expected to catch Scum doing it (and told everyone so). There was a post I made where I refused to answer GB's questions, because it would interfere with how I was "helping two players do something." The two players I was helping were the two that were voting against me: yamato and rayn. And by refusing to explain my interactions with rayn, I was helping yamato and rayn get a Scum player to claim the safe landing spot on me, which is exactly what CopCake did, and she was snared.

I had said that all would be explained on Night 1, so if people just follow through with the GB lynch after his preposterous Doctor claim, then I think there's a good chance I convince Mage to check CopCake on Night 1, and we lynch Red on the first 2 Days of the game. And really, ALL that is necessary for this all to come off without a hitch is for rayn to STFU. That's it. yamato and I steamroll this game if rayn just stays out of the way. It would probably have taken a few more days to catch Moosy (since unlike CopCake, he actually knows something about how to look Town) but after hitting Red on the first 2 Days, we have an eternity of mislynches to figure out the bus.

Anyway, goodbye TL. Unlike Fidei, I will not be ending my Mafia-playing career. I will continue to play as often as I can, just not at THIS fuckin' place. Back to the sites where players can see beyond what is 6 inches in front of their face. Back to the sites where people actually think before they post. Back to the sites where ZERO replacements are needed in the signups, because people actually show up to play, and care whether they win or lose.

Two different people have tried to tell me that I'm only frustrated with the low level of play here because I've played in the Newbie games. And that since I have more experience than the coaches I've received, the "big games" would be more my speed. NOPE. I've read a few of the big games too, and the level of play in them can be summarized as "I'm 100 pages behind. lol, what do?"

In my last 15 games on sites other than this one (you know, sites where people THINK...and TRY...) I am a combined 12-2-1, and haven't had any losses in my last 7 games.

I could try to go through the steps of canceling or deactivating my account. But given the attitudes of the players here, I think it would be more appropriate if I just decided that I "can't be bothered" to do anything. So long, everyone! And nice work, Moosy!