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On September 06 2015 05:24 raynpelikoneet wrote: coughing hydra is probably mafia because of undick-move analysis. mmm...i would normally be fine with lynching CoughingHydra for what he's done so far, but this is a Newbie game and i can see his behavior coming from a fresh newbie. so i'm going to reserve judgment until NocturneMage gets here.
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On September 06 2015 05:32 NocturneMage wrote:Hey everyone. Just started reading. If there is anything in particular I should pay attention to as I catch up, give me a shout. Also RL related - I work in the ER so if I'm at work overnight and something pops up, I will be forced to suddenly disappear from the game. The coming week should not be too crazy hopefully. just post reads after you're done catching up. you're actually a point of contention.
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Ok, I could tackle your post about me but i'll just say one thing here.
when i asked glowingbear about his opinion on scott, he had said that scott's reads made sense in the post directly before. but glowingbear on scott's directly previous post had said he had made a shit post. so i was looking to catch GB in a trap. if he had said scott looked townie then he was almost certainly mafia in my eyes. instead, he said that he still had him as null/scum for previous shit posts.
so GB effectively avoided the trap which prompted my 'mmm...ok' response. he had responded in the best possible way which made me townread him.
on the other hand when i try to prompt u (copcake) to help us out, all u seem to want to do is rage at me even though i'm completely willing to listen to other's opinions on you and i am in fact actively searching for such opinions. this can only make me A. hurt and B. suspicious that you're getting so angry over really nothing. even now u seem to be unable to see the traps and the ulterior motives behind my seemingly pointless questions which just makes me more suspicious.
HOWEVER, the only reason why i am not pressing on you too hard right now is because both rayn/yamato in my townie circle seem to think ur town.
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mmm...rayn shall we make a gamble?
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yamato will you agree to this gamble as well?
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On September 06 2015 06:21 CopCake wrote: And if glowing bear avoided your question why didnt you continue to pester him?
ding ding ding ? he didn't? he answered in the best way possible as i said.
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On September 06 2015 06:22 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2015 06:22 MoosyDoosy wrote: yamato will you agree to this gamble as well? only if the gamble is to lynch noobking every time 100/100 in fact it is
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yamato/rayn/superbia, would you agree that n00bKing and CopCake cannot be Mafia together?
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I'm fairly confident in my n00bKing read that he's town. I don't think CopCake and n00bKing are Mafia together.
If n00bKing is lynched D1 and he flips town, then I want you all to consider CopCake as a serious candidate for a D2 lynch.
If n00bKing is lynched D1 and he flips Mafia, then I will drop all grounds that CopCake could be Mafia.
On D2 I will provide my case on CopCake to show that she is Mafia.
But I am fairly certain in my reads on these two people.
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On September 06 2015 06:35 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2015 06:34 Superbia wrote:On September 06 2015 06:33 MoosyDoosy wrote: I'm fairly confident in my n00bKing read that he's town. I don't think CopCake and n00bKing are Mafia together.
If n00bKing is lynched D1 and he flips town, then I want you all to consider CopCake as a serious candidate for a D2 lynch.
If n00bKing is lynched D1 and he flips Mafia, then I will drop all grounds that CopCake could be Mafia.
On D2 I will provide my case on CopCake to show that she is Mafia.
But I am fairly certain in my reads on these two people. I kind of hate this. I also do fwiw seems like he's got a little TMI on noobking for me I am fairly sure n00bKing's town. When he was Mafia, he was stirring up all sorts of chaos during the game without giving any definitive reads. Here, he's still willing to participate and he gave reads on several people. His tone is all business unlike his Mafia game.
Granted he is overreacting that TL Mafia sucks and that his ego was hurt, but those are all actually n00bKing town tells as well.
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On September 06 2015 06:42 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2015 06:39 MoosyDoosy wrote:On September 06 2015 06:35 yamato77 wrote:On September 06 2015 06:34 Superbia wrote:On September 06 2015 06:33 MoosyDoosy wrote: I'm fairly confident in my n00bKing read that he's town. I don't think CopCake and n00bKing are Mafia together.
If n00bKing is lynched D1 and he flips town, then I want you all to consider CopCake as a serious candidate for a D2 lynch.
If n00bKing is lynched D1 and he flips Mafia, then I will drop all grounds that CopCake could be Mafia.
On D2 I will provide my case on CopCake to show that she is Mafia.
But I am fairly certain in my reads on these two people. I kind of hate this. I also do fwiw seems like he's got a little TMI on noobking for me I am fairly sure n00bKing's town. When he was Mafia, he was stirring up all sorts of chaos during the game without giving any definitive reads. Here, he's still willing to participate and he gave reads on several people. His tone is all business unlike his Mafia game. Granted he is overreacting that TL Mafia sucks and that his ego was hurt, but those are all actually n00bKing town tells as well. Even if he's town, it doesn't mean copcake is more likely mafia whatsoever I'd actually gladly try and lynch her today but the very same people within my townie circle don't seem to want to listen to me.
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On September 06 2015 06:45 CopCake wrote: Yolo I am lynching moose. cool. so you're switching ur vote on me because im taking the time to refute them and show why you should go about trying to lynch me in a different manner? i've already explained why i've been doing what i've been doing but u don't seem to want to participate.
-shrugs-
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On September 06 2015 06:46 CopCake wrote: Like
"he knows noob is town so because i am noob mafia read he wants me to get lynched tomorrow"
Nope, I am town.
If you have balls you will lynch me if i am a SUPER MAFIA READ OF YOU. ok like what's the point of this post. ur not even refuting anything just saying something that a mafia could easily say and then trying to attack me personally. rather than doing that you can try and be productive so that rayn's magic town read of you comes true in my eyes. because right now u are super scummy to me.
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On September 06 2015 06:51 n00bKing wrote: I notice no one has raised the possibility of Hydra having been a Smurf. Based on screen name and post count, it certainly seems to me like it could be. Which would definitely impact how you gauge his exit from the game. I think that this is irrelevant and you should focus on finding Mafia m8.
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On September 06 2015 06:54 CopCake wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2015 06:49 MoosyDoosy wrote:On September 06 2015 06:46 CopCake wrote: Like
"he knows noob is town so because i am noob mafia read he wants me to get lynched tomorrow"
Nope, I am town.
If you have balls you will lynch me if i am a SUPER MAFIA READ OF YOU. ok like what's the point of this post. ur not even refuting anything just saying something that a mafia could easily say and then trying to attack me personally. rather than doing that you can try and be productive so that rayn's magic town read of you comes true in my eyes. because right now u are super scummy to me. You are doing bets. Who the fuck of town does bets? You should lynch the person that you think is SCUM. Me and Noobking are the top list in lynch. YOUR BIGGEST SCUM READ AND ONE OF YOUR TOWN READS WHO SHOULD YOU BE LYNCHING? you clearly. but im actually waiting for NocturneMage to finish his reads and get his opinion on the matter.
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On September 06 2015 07:12 scott31337 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2015 06:19 MoosyDoosy wrote: Ok, I could tackle your post about me but i'll just say one thing here.
when i asked glowingbear about his opinion on scott, he had said that scott's reads made sense in the post directly before. but glowingbear on scott's directly previous post had said he had made a shit post. so i was looking to catch GB in a trap. if he had said scott looked townie then he was almost certainly mafia in my eyes. instead, he said that he still had him as null/scum for previous shit posts.
so GB effectively avoided the trap which prompted my 'mmm...ok' response. he had responded in the best possible way which made me townread him.
on the other hand when i try to prompt u (copcake) to help us out, all u seem to want to do is rage at me even though i'm completely willing to listen to other's opinions on you and i am in fact actively searching for such opinions. this can only make me A. hurt and B. suspicious that you're getting so angry over really nothing. even now u seem to be unable to see the traps and the ulterior motives behind my seemingly pointless questions which just makes me more suspicious.
HOWEVER, the only reason why i am not pressing on you too hard right now is because both rayn/yamato in my townie circle seem to think ur town. I like the logic and thought here, but GB is actually pretty good at not falling for bat traps tm. ugh can we not bring up bat traps. it makes me feel insecure about my own traps after that misguided lynch D1.
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On September 06 2015 07:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2015 06:56 MoosyDoosy wrote:On September 06 2015 06:54 CopCake wrote:On September 06 2015 06:49 MoosyDoosy wrote:On September 06 2015 06:46 CopCake wrote: Like
"he knows noob is town so because i am noob mafia read he wants me to get lynched tomorrow"
Nope, I am town.
If you have balls you will lynch me if i am a SUPER MAFIA READ OF YOU. ok like what's the point of this post. ur not even refuting anything just saying something that a mafia could easily say and then trying to attack me personally. rather than doing that you can try and be productive so that rayn's magic town read of you comes true in my eyes. because right now u are super scummy to me. You are doing bets. Who the fuck of town does bets? You should lynch the person that you think is SCUM. Me and Noobking are the top list in lynch. YOUR BIGGEST SCUM READ AND ONE OF YOUR TOWN READS WHO SHOULD YOU BE LYNCHING? you clearly. but im actually waiting for NocturneMage to finish his reads and get his opinion on the matter. She's right. Your post was absolutely horrible. im sorry, but i think ur too intent on reading copcake as town. i might be too intent on reading n00bKing as town too, but I'm pretty sure about this. ##Vote: CopCake
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On September 06 2015 08:01 Fidei86 wrote: Hey guys. Sorry I haven't been around today - I was really drunk yesterday evening when the game started, and I've spent most of today out and about with friends. Honestly, I was pretty bummed from how Personality Mafia ended, so I needed a bit of a break. But I'm back now. I've read the thread and I have some thoughts, but honestly I probably need to go back to the filters first before solid reads.
In terms of my experience, I have played a fair bit of voice mafia with rayn, but I don't think we've ever been in a forum game together. I've played with scott before, but he AFKd through most of our most recent game. I was town with GB back in Himalayas, but he was killed before I really started contributing in a meaningful way. I was town with Moosy and n00b in newbie mafia XII, although that game ended kinda abruptly (and all of us were basically confirmed town d1). The rest of the players I wouldn't say I know much about. I like to get this sort of thing out at the start as it will hopefully give you more of a sense of where my reads come from.
I'm going to read back over some filters, and give some thoughts. My initial read through made me most sceptical of Moosy and n00b, especially as their play seemed very different to last time I played with them.
One thing I do want to say now is that this is supposed to be a Newbie Game, and you guys have managed to fill 40 pages in a day and a bit. This is just a quick plea to make sure you think before you post - active town is great, but over-active town means that people can just sort of hide in the noise. Oh boy, you have no idea how much my play has changed.
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On September 06 2015 08:49 raynpelikoneet wrote: james' last post was super towny. Fidei looks town. He did much the same in our newbie game prior where he lectured people with his first post before going down to business. Both him and NocturneMage come off looking better from their posts which is good.
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On September 06 2015 09:12 Fidei86 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2015 09:03 Fidei86 wrote:On September 06 2015 05:12 MoosyDoosy wrote:On September 06 2015 05:07 Superbia wrote: moosy/noobking/copcake/others. Can you guys make some sort of list post on where you stand? Like on everyone. Specifically I would also like people to give an opinion on the whole noobking/rayn conundrum. What do you think of their alignment? -.- i detailed a post where i lumped people into categories but here you go: town: raynpelikoneet, yamato77 town lean: Superbia, Alakaslam null: Breshke, boxerfred, GlowingBear, scott31337, Fidei86 people to look into: nocturnemage/coughinghydra, copcake ???: n00bKing Okay, so this post. WTF. I started off by running through all the reads one by one, but the thing that really sticks out here is that MD's previous five pages of filter are basically just a defence of n00b. MD goes as far as to say that he has the best read on n00b of everyone in the game, and that he is basically SURE that this is n00b's town meta. But now that there's a wagon picking up on n00b, he's trying to walk that back? Huh? MD you really need to explain this read for me, because at the moment it really stinks. So I went back and re-read MD's filter to put this post in context. In summary, MD's read evolution on n00b is: 1. "I know him best, this is obviously his town meta" 2. ??? 3. "Everyone else has him as scum, so I don't know" 4. "Okay so he's actually town" This doesn't seem like a logical evolution to me - especially not for someone who claims to have better insight to n00b than everyone else. I would say that it was scum setting themselves up for a mislynch, except that it's so blatant that it's sort of difficult to believe that a scum MD is that stupid... Look at the context. 1. "I know him best, this is his town meta so far" 2. Everyone else calls him scum. 3. "Okay, I'll wait, I'm not sure" "???" 4. n00bKing posts some more and shares reads 5. "Yep, he's def town"
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