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On September 06 2015 06:54 CopCake wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2015 06:49 MoosyDoosy wrote:On September 06 2015 06:46 CopCake wrote:
Like
"he knows noob is town so because i am noob mafia read he wants me to get lynched tomorrow"
Nope, I am town.
If you have balls you will lynch me if i am a SUPER MAFIA READ OF YOU. ok like what's the point of this post. ur not even refuting anything just saying something that a mafia could easily say and then trying to attack me personally. rather than doing that you can try and be productive so that rayn's magic town read of you comes true in my eyes. because right now u are super scummy to me. You are doing bets. Who the fuck of town does bets? You should lynch the person that you think is SCUM. Me and Noobking are the top list in lynch. YOUR BIGGEST SCUM READ AND ONE OF YOUR TOWN READS WHO SHOULD YOU BE LYNCHING?
I don't even know what you're talking about, in half of this post. But I do agree with Moosy's answer to the question at the end. He should be lynching you.
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On September 06 2015 07:10 Breshke wrote:
so noobking care to explain the thing you were doing early game to get reads? Because I don't really see what reads it got you at this point
lol, if you don't know what I was doing, then you can't be surprised that you can't see the results.
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On September 06 2015 07:12 CopCake wrote:
Noobking
are you...
seriously scum reading me because i dont have the same reads as you and because we don't have a common scum read?
Among other things, that I have already said previously.
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On September 06 2015 07:32 scott31337 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2015 06:51 n00bKing wrote:
I notice no one has raised the possibility of Hydra having been a Smurf. Based on screen name and post count, it certainly seems to me like it could be. Which would definitely impact how you gauge his exit from the game. Confirmed not reading the thread.
Okay, where did someone raise that possibility?
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On September 06 2015 07:37 NocturneMage wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2015 05:55 n00bKing wrote:On September 06 2015 01:43 MoosyDoosy wrote:
n00bKing. For one moment, say that you believe that rayn is town. Who would you look at next if that was the case? I would have a difficult time crafting a defense for any of: CopCake, boxerfred, Hydra/Mage. I'm still waiting to see a post from yamato that looks useful, but I can keep waiting, unless that's a notorious lurker or something. boxerfred and Fidei both had pop-in and pop-out posts citing they were busy or RL or whatever, so what's your defence for Fidei?
Based on what I've seen, if boxerfred continued to be non-participatory, it wouldn't be anything unusual. That's not the case for Fidei. I would expect adequate participation from him over the course of the game, even if not today (and by "today" I mean Saturday, not Day 1). So Fidei gets a longer leash, and is a less desirable "lurker lynch" target than boxerfred.
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On September 06 2015 07:24 NocturneMage wrote:
Reading n00bking right now. Not liking what I see so far. I know he ranted about skill level of the site in the newbie I played and the one before that so I am ignoring that. But 278, 311 and 329, those posts I really don't like. 329, he's pushing rayn on semantics, doesn't have to be a case, all that matters is that he's calling rayn's points bullshit.
The importance of the distinction between calling rayn's points bullshit and making a case for why he should be lynched cannot be overstated. You're right, "all that matters" is that rayn's points were being called bullshit (and they were bullshit). rayn mislabeled it as being something else, so I corrected him. Just as I corrected him when he tried to pretend I had said at some point that he is Scum.
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On September 06 2015 07:45 CopCake wrote:
Hey noobking, what do you think of people who don't like moose's post about the bet stuff?
I don't know what you're talking about. I do know you're a decent lynch target today.
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On September 06 2015 07:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2015 07:47 n00bKing wrote:On September 06 2015 07:24 NocturneMage wrote:
Reading n00bking right now. Not liking what I see so far. I know he ranted about skill level of the site in the newbie I played and the one before that so I am ignoring that. But 278, 311 and 329, those posts I really don't like. 329, he's pushing rayn on semantics, doesn't have to be a case, all that matters is that he's calling rayn's points bullshit. The importance of the distinction between calling rayn's points bullshit and making a case for why he should be lynched cannot be overstated. You're right, "all that matters" is that rayn's points were being called bullshit (and they were bullshit). rayn mislabeled it as being something else, so I corrected him. Just as I corrected him when he tried to pretend I had said at some point that he is Scum. Nah you have been calling me scum all game long. Now yoy die.
Even if I had called you scum, it wouldn't be a reason to lynch me. And it's not a reason to lynch GlowingBear either. And there's not GOING to be a reason to lynch me, either. So you better start working on Plan B. You were 98% sure that I'm Scum, but you're wrong. You were 95% sure Alakaslam was Scum, and then you didn't seem so sure at all.
What else ya got for me, Sparky?
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On September 06 2015 08:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
mmm james' last post was super scummy-
Who is James?
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On September 06 2015 08:40 NocturneMage wrote:
alright you ninjaed me lol....
Wait Fidei pinged you as mafia?
Post 269/807 are the only posts he's had in the game. No pinging you as mafia.
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No, I don't think she means that Fidei pinged her as Mafia (as in, identified her as Mafia). She's saying he pinged her as Mafia more than boxerfred (as in, felt scummier to her).
But that requires that she found this post from Fidei scummy, which seems absurd:
Guys I am about, but it's Friday and I went out drinking with buddies. Last time I entered a thread drunk, I nearly got lynched. So I will read and post reactions tomorrow I promise.
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On September 06 2015 08:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
mmm james' last post was super scummy-
Nah, it's only a little scummy. But it's interesting that he's doing some of the same things that one of the Scum players did IN the game he's talking about (Newbie XII) that I used as reasons to lynch that exact Mafia member.
Meanwhile, agree that NocturneMage comes off as Town, for the moment.
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On September 06 2015 08:47 Fidei86 wrote:
This is exactly the same as his town meta in voice-mafia, he tries to lead the discussion right from the front, ask questions, point things out and generally just be loud. I do think that a couple of his pushes have been a little questionable - the whole Breshke "yamato/rayn magic" thing was blown waaaaay out of proportion, and I think people were right to point this out. But, yeah, that's what I would have expected from town rayn.
rayn didn't blow the Breshke "magic" thing out of proportion any worse than he blew the GB "Vig claim" thing out of proportion. Both of them waste time and create distraction.
On September 06 2015 08:47 Fidei86 wrote:I hate n00b's style of posting, because there's really no reason to be so rude.
That was done for a reason.
On September 06 2015 08:47 Fidei86 wrote:
I'm sitting here reading this post, and I just keep asking myself "why does a town n00b make this post?". The only reason to call people's posts bad, without following with a read on the poster, is if you're trying to stop momentum on a wagon you think is wrong. Otherwise, you're just soft-scumming the poster.
NO. Players would (and should) call someone's posts bad, if they are bad. Simple as that. I don't have to scumread rayn to say that GB was right about his "points" being bullshit. They were bullshit, and they should be labeled as bullshit, so that no one else will make the mistake of thinking they might be reasonable, and/or putting any stock in them. I've mentioned multiple players as Townreads of mine in this game. Do not think for a second that it will keep me from pointing out flaws in their logic. And if they make posts as bad as rayn's were, I'll tell them their posts are bad, and why they are bad, just as I did with rayn.
On September 06 2015 08:47 Fidei86 wrote: I would say probably half of n00b's filter up to now is his fight with rayn. And through all of that, he hasn't actually formed a read on him yet? How does that even make sense?
Who said I haven't formed a read on him yet? You can't see inside my head, and it is important that not everyone be able to see inside my head, since there are 3 players in the game that I don't want to know what I'm thinking.
On September 06 2015 08:47 Fidei86 wrote:
Yamato's thread is one I think is worth parsing a little more. He again seems to have been swept up in the fight, and is taking lots of swings at n00b. I've spent a fair amount of time talking to Yamato on TS, and I would say off the bat that his posts sound like him. But at the same time, he's a strong player and his absolute focus on n00b this early seems a little off. I'm also not sure that his post #598 makes a ton of sense. Rayn's read on Yamato is flimsy, at best. Even rayn would surely have to admit that trying to discern someone's alignment from how excited they are in their first post is pretty difficult. For two people who only know each other over the internet, it would be basically impossible. So why is yamato so keen to emphasise that he and rayn are hard town-reading each other?
Mmhmm. It was interesting that rayn basically refuses to scumhunt (saying he thinks we "have our lynch" for Day 1 and so forth), so that if he's Town, he's just leaving the rest of the Townies high & dry to fend for themselves, because he can't be bothered to do anything. But then he continues to hang around and play peanut gallery. If the plan is to "vote against Town and bail" then he's screwing it up.
yamato, meanwhile, does it right. He drops his vote on me, saddles me with some busy work to do (demanding to know which posts of GB I have been agreeing with, and further, insisting that I provide specific context for additional evidence...even though he doesn't seem to think his own statements need to be held to such standards, so he can be as vague and non-descript as he likes) and gets the hell out of the thread.
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On September 06 2015 08:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:nvm here: Show nested quote +On September 05 2015 07:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
The reason i am reading yamato town is because i talked with him on TS last night and he has rolled mafia for like 5 games in a row or something and i told him "hey let's wreck mafia if we are both town, it would be nice to play with you when you are actually town and play".
He basically promised to play in his first post, because he seems interested in the game and happy. If it's a fake post then i will 100% figure it out based on his play AFTERWARDS, but as per now there is zero reason to think yamato is mafia.
. And nothing has made me think otherwise after i made the post.
Really?
You indicated that if he doesn't follow through on being interested in the game and making an actual effort to play, then it'll mean he's Mafia. How is that not EXACTLY what's happened?
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On September 06 2015 10:52 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2015 10:33 MoosyDoosy wrote:
GlowingBear, do you really think n00bKing is mafia here? I think there is the possibility of him being Mafia. Some of his replies are really off, his tone is over the top, the dismissal of some questions and that unexplained vote on Rayn while not scum reading him are very fair indicatives.
I have only voted against CopCake, you know.
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On September 06 2015 11:03 Breshke wrote:
Noob do you wanna run me through all the people you are considering for lynching at the moment?
If you feel you have done it enough in your filter that's fair I just don't have access to filters at the moment but I'll look later.
I have done it enough in my filter, but I'm used to having to do more than my fair share, so let me help you out!
Good places for votes:
CopCake, boxerfred, Scott
Before Fidei returned, I said I would rather lynch boxerfred than him, because I expected that when Fidei was back, he would participate more than we would see from boxerfred. His posts since he's been back don't thrill me, but like I had said a while back about Alakaslam, I think he's a better player to continue watching, than to just cut loose on Day 1.
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Hydra *had* been the 4th on that list, but Mage seems okay for now, as I mentioned earlier.
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On September 06 2015 11:30 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2015 11:01 n00bKing wrote:On September 06 2015 10:52 GlowingBear wrote:On September 06 2015 10:33 MoosyDoosy wrote:
GlowingBear, do you really think n00bKing is mafia here? I think there is the possibility of him being Mafia. Some of his replies are really off, his tone is over the top, the dismissal of some questions and that unexplained vote on Rayn while not scum reading him are very fair indicatives. I have only voted against CopCake, you know. You've bolded a vote on rayn in this topic.
And this topic is not where we vote. In this topic, I could act like I'm voting against rayn, or against myself, or against Santa Claus, and none of it will move the vote count. I have only voted against CopCake.
On September 06 2015 11:30 GlowingBear wrote:
If you didn't think rayn was mafia at that time, why did you do that?
I feel like this question might be better to answer at the end of Night 1, than during Day 1. But I will think about it.
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On September 06 2015 13:17 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2015 11:41 n00bKing wrote:On September 06 2015 11:30 GlowingBear wrote:On September 06 2015 11:01 n00bKing wrote:On September 06 2015 10:52 GlowingBear wrote:On September 06 2015 10:33 MoosyDoosy wrote:
GlowingBear, do you really think n00bKing is mafia here? I think there is the possibility of him being Mafia. Some of his replies are really off, his tone is over the top, the dismissal of some questions and that unexplained vote on Rayn while not scum reading him are very fair indicatives. I have only voted against CopCake, you know. You've bolded a vote on rayn in this topic. And this topic is not where we vote. In this topic, I could act like I'm voting against rayn, or against myself, or against Santa Claus, and none of it will move the vote count. I have only voted against CopCake. On September 06 2015 11:30 GlowingBear wrote:
If you didn't think rayn was mafia at that time, why did you do that? I feel like this question might be better to answer at the end of Night 1, than during Day 1. But I will think about it. I need to check something when I can but thanks for replying to my post Noobking Also about this post I don't really see what you could possibly have to say about rayn that you wouldn't say now but would at the end of night 1 Like thinking any read you have on rayn is going to affect mafias NKs is fairly arrogant at this point.
*sigh* Did you forget about this exchange already? [underlining added for emphasis]
On September 05 2015 10:49 n00bKing wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2015 10:33 Breshke wrote:
I don't really see what you are doing noobking as pressuring rayn because i don't see how you would be getting an allighnment read from it. I'm doing more than just getting a read on rayn's alignment. And I don't need you to understand all of the things that I am doing, in order for them to work.
There is more to it than just a read on rayn. And the Mafia have other actions that I can affect besides just their NK target.
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On September 06 2015 03:02 scott31337 wrote:
Moosy trying to solve the game - unlike his mafia games - townlean
What Mafia games?
And since you've made several posts since then, but never addressed it, I'll bring this back up:
On September 06 2015 07:37 n00bKing wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2015 07:32 scott31337 wrote:On September 06 2015 06:51 n00bKing wrote:
I notice no one has raised the possibility of Hydra having been a Smurf. Based on screen name and post count, it certainly seems to me like it could be. Which would definitely impact how you gauge his exit from the game. Confirmed not reading the thread. Okay, where did someone raise that possibility?
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On September 06 2015 14:04 Breshke wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2015 13:55 n00bKing wrote:On September 06 2015 13:17 Breshke wrote:On September 06 2015 11:41 n00bKing wrote:On September 06 2015 11:30 GlowingBear wrote:On September 06 2015 11:01 n00bKing wrote:On September 06 2015 10:52 GlowingBear wrote:On September 06 2015 10:33 MoosyDoosy wrote:
GlowingBear, do you really think n00bKing is mafia here? I think there is the possibility of him being Mafia. Some of his replies are really off, his tone is over the top, the dismissal of some questions and that unexplained vote on Rayn while not scum reading him are very fair indicatives. I have only voted against CopCake, you know. You've bolded a vote on rayn in this topic. And this topic is not where we vote. In this topic, I could act like I'm voting against rayn, or against myself, or against Santa Claus, and none of it will move the vote count. I have only voted against CopCake. On September 06 2015 11:30 GlowingBear wrote:
If you didn't think rayn was mafia at that time, why did you do that? I feel like this question might be better to answer at the end of Night 1, than during Day 1. But I will think about it. I need to check something when I can but thanks for replying to my post Noobking Also about this post I don't really see what you could possibly have to say about rayn that you wouldn't say now but would at the end of night 1 Like thinking any read you have on rayn is going to affect mafias NKs is fairly arrogant at this point. *sigh* Did you forget about this exchange already? [underlining added for emphasis] On September 05 2015 10:49 n00bKing wrote:On September 05 2015 10:33 Breshke wrote:
I don't really see what you are doing noobking as pressuring rayn because i don't see how you would be getting an allighnment read from it. I'm doing more than just getting a read on rayn's alignment. And I don't need you to understand all of the things that I am doing, in order for them to work. There is more to it than just a read on rayn. And the Mafia have other actions that I can affect besides just their NK target. I remember it but it dumb
WTF does that mean?
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