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On September 22 2015 05:25 Fidei86 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2015 05:23 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Also scott, like I'm pretty sure your big post on how busing is unlikely was an attempt to cover your own bus and CopCake's bus on GB. Linkerino please?
here ya go
On September 14 2015 02:19 scott31337 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 14 2015 01:29 MoosyDoosy wrote:scott, thoughts on this? On September 12 2015 21:50 Superbia wrote:
My problem at the moment is that both scott's and fidei's reads are logical fallacies. They read the "shitfight" as worthless and essentially both ignore boxerfred's town case on me without as much as a thought (like they literally do not refute it). To me this shows an adamant point of view coming in from n2. Let me ask you (scott+fidei) a question, have you ever asked yourself the question "what would town Superbia do during this day?"? No. Regardless of what I would do, you would be fine calling me mafia today:
I do something -> Superbia is struggling to get townread.
I do nothing -> Superbia has given up as mafia.
This is not how town should play. I am surprised by both that you are perfectly willing to call me mafia on n2 for no good reason (I'll explain below how mafia would act after GB's fake claim, and why this would potentially finger scott). Yet only scott has played a single game with me (iirc, and I was town). So you are both willing to hard call me mafia coming into n2 and not evaluate on d3 ("lolz this game is ez boiz"(. This could be town being ignorant and arrogant, but it's likely at least one of the two is mafia.
Let me explain to you how GB's claim influences mafia play:
When GB claims doctor at the end of d1. Mafia knows glowingbear dies the next day, and flips mafia. It is therefore incredibly likely that mafia will bus GB ASAP.
In fact, it makes it more likely that there was already a bus on GB (I'm actually leaning towards scott), or that slam was bussing GB (I have a townread on slam independent of his push on GB). Scott looks so fucking good after GB flips mafia, since he was on his dick since early d1 (so early that it reeks of TMI/bussing). In fact, GB even made an entire case on scott! (and granted, in GB's meta he has not made a case on his partner d1, but he has made a case on his partner when he was about to die, iirc). But I personally feel like the case was ill-timed (train was starting on GB).
Now, this is made all the more damning by the fact that scott seems absolutely fine to see this day play out with a lynch on me (fidei too, for that matter). Let me tell you this much: I'm unsure of breshke's alignment at this point, but if he flips green today or tomorrow, I know for a fact that there's at least one between fidei and scott (though this may remain true even if he flips red).
Honestly I don't believe we should kill scott today, but I think fidei is an excellent target.
tl;dr:
- Fidei never played with me (except voice).
- Fidei fine with not evaluating my play and being adamant on lynch on me for no good reason (should not have a good read on me).
- Fidei believes I am a strong player, if I am mafia my play would have been exceptionally weak (I would have bussed GB pre-flip, as any decent mafia player would do).
- Scott played with me once (I was town)
- Scott fine with not evaluating my play and being adamant on lynch on me for no good reason (should not have a good read on me).
- Distance between scott and GB does not mean scott is town.
- Mafia for sure bussed GB pre-flip. + Show Spoiler [Vote Count] +On September 13 2015 07:44 scott31337 wrote:Day 1 Votecount GlowingBear (7): Alakaslam, scott31337, raynpelikoneet, Yamato77, Fidei86, CopCake, boxerfredcopcake (3): n00bking, moosydoosy, nocturnemage n00bking (1): Superbia Alakaslam (1): Breshkescott310337 (1): GlowingBearNot Voting (0): Currently, GlowingBear is fixin' to be jettisoned out the gorram cargo bay with 7 votes in . Please do not forget to vote.-Final Day 1- Final Day 1 Votecount n00bking (7): Superbia, Fidei86, raynpelikoneet, Yamato77, scott31337, GlowingBear, Alakaslam copcake (2): moosydoosy, nocturnemage GlowingBear (2): boxerfred, n00bkingAlakaslam (1): Breshkescott31337 (1): CopCake Not Voting (0): Currently, n00bking was jettisoned out the gorram cargo bay with 7 votes.-Final Day 2- Day 2 Votecount GlowingBear (9): raynpelikoneet, Fidei86, scott31337, Breshke, NocturneMage, Alakaslam, boxerfred, CopCake, Superbia CopCake (1): MoosyDoosy raynpelikoneet (1): GlowingBearNot Voting (0):In GlowingBear will be abandoned on the nearest moon with 9 votes. Please do not forget to vote. -Final Day 3- boxerfred (3): MoosyDoosy, NocturneMage, scott31337Superbia (3): Breshke, Fidei86, Alakaslam Fidei86 (1): Superbia MoosyDoosy (1): boxerfredscott31337 (1): CopCake Not Informing (0):So if what he says is true - Then Fidei, CopCake, or Slam is mafia bussing. Slam could've done the super phat bus from the beginning - I had a tinfoil about that a day ago, and changing up his play - It's not out of the realm. I think Fidei is town. Copcake? I'm honestly not sure - and this is vote #5 with 13 playing - Would they serious do this? I'm doubtful. I think bussing is overthought of - in all my games played - it hasn't happened. There were two I obs'ed (There in the database) that rayn was mafia and bussed starting D1 and bussed his teammmates. He was alive d4/d5 and people caught on why he wasn't dead yet, and lost. Damdred started bussing d2 his teammates- made it to LYLO with Yamato - and won... Beyond those two it's pretty rare - and I've been called out every game I'm in that I bussed also, and it's never happened (and I was town in all those too) I think it's suboptimal unless absolutely necessary. If anyone did, it was Slam - but that's still really tinfoil.
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He's redirecting all bus prospects on Slam who was town and not CopCake.
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srry guys but i have to go for about an hour and half. I've made it clear who Mafia is and I'm glad that I was able to be town savior starting with CopCake and now scott.  see ya guys soon.
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GB scum read me. Partly why I was fine with him dying.
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On September 22 2015 05:44 Fidei86 wrote: (
On September 22 2015 05:45 Fidei86 wrote:
OMG rekt by the fucking kissy face.
lol
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On September 22 2015 07:24 scott31337 wrote:
I think I need some LYLO coaching - 0-2 sucks
Like I even read a couple other LYLO games for some experience/pointers yesterday to not make the same mistakes as Guardians - there's a few I was better at, but I think the "too convinced" thing fucked me up both days.
Yes it made you too easily Mafia especially since I was waiting with my trap.
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On September 22 2015 07:26 Fidei86 wrote:
I actually sort of want MD to lose just because he's been so insufferable all game. But I don't want to lose with him.
;-; im sorry i wont be insufferable
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 to be fair i was right most of the time tho
I'm actually writing my post-game thoughts.
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On September 22 2015 07:28 scott31337 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2015 07:27 MoosyDoosy wrote: to be fair i was right most of the time tho I'm actually writing my post-game thoughts. It's easy with perfect information
Eh,
A. You've been right most of the time too
B. I've actually been right about things that Mafia wouldn't know
C. I'm actually improving. In my other game, I nailed one scum before I died.
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On September 22 2015 07:28 Fidei86 wrote:
MD where did you go just now
I'm right here, calm down.
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gg scott you mafia scummerino.
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Nah, CopCake was yelling at me the whole time I was busing her.  srry Copperino
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true. i took that risk when i shouldn't have.
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On September 22 2015 07:38 Fidei86 wrote:
This honestly wasn't fun for me at all. I think this is the end of my Mafia career boys. I don't want to do that again.
Sorry Fidei.
You actually played really well the whole game. If you just learn to manage your lylo nerves and look at the game with a step back you'll be a huge asset to town.
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For some reason, playing as Mafia made my town reads stronger. o.O I see things that I normally wouldn't.
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On September 22 2015 08:06 CopCake wrote:
Also that "cake was mafia with rayn" was something i posted in the qt and fucking moosy posted THAT IN THE GAME, info of our QT in the fucking game for him to look "better"
JESUSCHRIST.
That was actually an honest mistake. I did think I found a game with you and rayn but it turned out to be someone whose name started with a C too.
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On September 22 2015 08:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:Yeah Moosy played well. I am not saying he did not. I am saying he should have been lynched after my & yamato's reads on him. Show nested quote +Rayn, you can't blame fidei for not letting you realise cake was Mafia, if that's what you meant. Also, if you got cake so wrong, reading your opinion on Moosy shouldn't mean much for him to be fair. Fidei did what he could in LYLO. And he was very townie imo. yes i read cake wrong. no, that had nothing to do with my read on moosy if you ever read my filter. the point on D1 was he goes "wow GB claimed, rayn what do we do?" when it is OBVIOUS his top townread (noobking) is gonna get lynched. So like he doesn't care, unless GB is lynched. Another point was that he didn't push cake on D2, when it was me against you GB --- he doesn't think neither of us is mafia (rofl) yet he doesn't want to push Cake (his top 1 scumread). It just doesn't make any sense.
? I was actually pushing Cake. Perhaps I had zero thread presence so you don't remember it.
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On September 22 2015 08:23 Fidei86 wrote:
Thanks for hosting Tina.
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