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boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
September 11 2015 20:24 GMT
#2258
On September 12 2015 05:20 CopCake wrote:
Boxfred why do you want more town reads than mafia reads?

To find 2 out of 10, you can search until you find 2, or you can search until you know 8 are good people. Two ways to find scum. Combining both is the way to go, however I feel like the first way (evaluating people on scum indicators or missing town indicators only) is insufficient.

I feel like there is a lot of spammy discussions instead of decent scumhunting going on.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
September 12 2015 17:29 GMT
#2325
Received a voting reminder. Gonna go for MD. Don't have time to do evaluate anything.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
September 12 2015 23:34 GMT
#2687
GG's guys. Sorry for the low activity.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
September 21 2015 22:48 GMT
#3454
Wow, GGs! Holy hell, I mean I can see reasons to scumread Fidei in lylo but scott?
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
September 22 2015 08:34 GMT
#3529
Thanks to the hosts and the coaches, rsoultin and HtS in particular. Awesome stuff, awesome work, I had tons of fun although I wasn't really able to participate.

Kudos to rayn for the ballsy counterclaim move. I liked that a lot. Also, it's a good thing that I got killed (np np, NocturneMage). I couldn't have kept up with MD's spammy style and I really want to express how much I dislike that. My vote would've been defaulted to MD simply to get rid of the most spammy player in the game. It's disgusting how pure activity can save a mafia game for scum. MD created so much fuzz that, once the experienced players were out, it was rather easy to get lost in the shitload of spam he was creating. Disgusting. I mean yeah, effective as fuck but it feels like a kick in the nuts when you're fencing. Just .. not fair . Don't feel attacked please, it's not meant to be ad hom or anything .

HtS did a ridiculously great job at coaching. I think I didn't do too bad of a job if I'm measured by my low activity. I think I prioritized badly though, concentrating too much on Fidei/Superbia who were both town. I noticed by now that I townread Copcake for literally no reason, didn't even check the filter once. I guess that's the tribute you pay when you're not able to be really active.

I think though that my townread on Superbia was actually decent, also I was able to read Fidei correctly as town. While the choice of those persons was rather unlucky, the reads were correct so I guess that's something I have going for me.

However, thank you all for the game, it was really, really fun and I can't wait for the next mini. I'll assist Blazinghand as a co-host soon so go ahead and sign up.

boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
September 22 2015 08:45 GMT
#3530
It is also interesting that I have a three page filter. Wow.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
September 23 2015 07:32 GMT
#3546
I just read through the scum qt. Guys keep in mind it's a game .
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-23 11:36:38
September 23 2015 11:35 GMT
#3548
On September 23 2015 19:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2015 05:09 yamato77 wrote:
Still delusional even after the game. You tried your hardest to get two mafia completely cleared on D1. I won't miss you, lynching you was satisfying because I didn't have to read your posts anymore. Don't come back.

+1

Boxerfred lynch was so terrible. Literally so terrible.
N1 kill and N2 kill BOTH have moosy as the top mafia candidate and you guys let him lead a lynch?!?!?
pff.....

Nah. In a 150+ pages game, I'm almost always in to lynch the guy who has a filter of 2(!) pages. It's totally fine.
However the next lynch after Copcake should've been Moosy. Especially since I got pushed by him.
The fact of N1 kill and N2 kill having MD as top scum read PLUS the fact that he pushed a rather easy mislynch? Strong, strong scum indicators.

However I feel like my reads really improved. I had rayn and scott early as top town people. I townread CopCake but I did so without even evaluating her so I'm not going to call that a read. Once Superbia was dead and CC was checked, it was clear to me that MD is the last scum.

I think NocturneMage and MoosyDoosy are each alignment's MVPs. While rayn did an awesome job, I feel like his play in the game was a lot influenced by a "why don't you guys follow me I have it solved" attitude. As for James, well - awkward ending, however you did a great job in at least getting me to townread you.

The most noteworthy experience that I take from this game is that I dived into Fidei and Superbia with the intention to find reasons why they're scum and ended up with two strong town reads, for what it's worth.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
September 23 2015 12:14 GMT
#3553
On September 23 2015 20:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2015 20:35 boxerfred wrote:
On September 23 2015 19:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 23 2015 05:09 yamato77 wrote:
Still delusional even after the game. You tried your hardest to get two mafia completely cleared on D1. I won't miss you, lynching you was satisfying because I didn't have to read your posts anymore. Don't come back.

+1

Boxerfred lynch was so terrible. Literally so terrible.
N1 kill and N2 kill BOTH have moosy as the top mafia candidate and you guys let him lead a lynch?!?!?
pff.....

Nah. In a 150+ pages game, I'm almost always in to lynch the guy who has a filter of 2(!) pages. It's totally fine.
However the next lynch after Copcake should've been Moosy. Especially since I got pushed by him.
The fact of N1 kill and N2 kill having MD as top scum read PLUS the fact that he pushed a rather easy mislynch? Strong, strong scum indicators.

No, it's about the fact that when mafia flipped, suddenly he decides to NOT push Cake anymore..
And you were obviously town from your D1.

This is the one thing. I went afk and let my vote on GB. Why the fuck would mafia do that. I even pointed that out. Noone cared. I'm still wondering if people read my filter when they lynched me.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
September 23 2015 13:36 GMT
#3558
On September 23 2015 22:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2015 22:12 rsoultin wrote:
yes, there was a leadership vacuum, but not everyone is made to lead or knows how or when to do so

Yes there was, Moosy. Which is why he played well and town didn't.
I know people might not know how to lead, it doesn't make my argument invalid.

agreed. I think scott should've taken the lead or maybe even NM.
boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
September 25 2015 12:01 GMT
#3565
So whatever. Thanks for the fluff and all the effort .

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