• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 18:28
CEST 00:28
KST 07:28
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2914Serral wins Maestros of the Game 243ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12
Community News
Reynor: GSL Loss Wasn't About Preparation Format12[IPSL] Spring 2026 Grand Finals - This Weekend!5Weekly Cups (July 6 - 12): Protoss strike back12BSL Season 22 Full Overview & Conclusion8BSL Season 22 Full Overview & Conclusion8
StarCraft 2
General
Is the larve respawn broken? 5.0.16 patch for SC2 goes live (8 worker start) BGE Stara Zagora to be held again in June 2025 Weekly Cups (July 6 - 12): Protoss strike back Serral wins HomeStory Cup 29
Tourneys
Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) WardiTV Summer Cup 2026 GSL CK #5 Race War RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event HomeStory Cup 29
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
New Map Maker - Looking for Advice - Love or Hate Work In Progress Melee Maps [D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 534 Burning Evacuation Mutation # 533 Die Together Mutation # 532 Nuclear Family
Brood War
General
Etiquete rules in Asl? Recommended FPV games (post-KeSPA) Pros Debate: Zerg Unfairly Nerfed? (ASL S22 map) BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ screpdb: new Starcraft reporting tool
Tourneys
[IPSL] Spring 2026 Grand Finals - This Weekend! Escore Tournament - Season 3 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL22] Wildcard Qualifier
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers Creating a full chart of Zerg builds Relatively freeroll strategies
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread General RTS Discussion Thread Path of Exile Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Summer Games Done Quick 2026!
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Power Rank NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread UK Politics Mega-thread YouTube Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club The HerO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Movie Discussion! Series you have seen recently...
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread MLB/Baseball 2023 McBoner: A hockey love story Tennis[sport] Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Simple Questions Simple Answers FPS when play League Of Legend on laptop How to clean a TTe Thermaltake keyboard?
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Northern Ireland Global Starcraft
Blogs
Poker (part 2)
Nebuchad
The Experiences We Want and …
TrAiDoS
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
Gauntlet SC2: A Retrospectiv…
Ctone23
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Evil Gacha Games and the…
ffswowsucks
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 5569 users

Newbie Student Mafia XIV: Firefly - Page 2

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 Next All
n00bKing
Profile Joined June 2015
United States1202 Posts
September 05 2015 01:49 GMT
#375
On September 05 2015 10:33 Breshke wrote:
I don't really see what you are doing noobking as pressuring rayn because i don't see how you would be getting an allighnment read from it.

I'm doing more than just getting a read on rayn's alignment. And I don't need you to understand all of the things that I am doing, in order for them to work.
n00bKing
Profile Joined June 2015
United States1202 Posts
September 05 2015 02:06 GMT
#387
On September 05 2015 10:35 CopCake wrote:
look at my post where i say why i consider him town, because i won't accept "analyzing little details" as an answer.

There IS no post where you say you consider rayn Town, much less give an explanation for why you would consider him Town.

There is a post where you say "When rayn uses more 'tone reads and emotional reads' he tends to be mafia." And that could be taken as an insinuation that rayn could be Town....IF it weren't for the FACT that he's used tone reads or emotional reads in THIS game.

Look at what he has said about how he determined the allegiances of Alakaslam and yamato. They are both "tonereads" at best, if not better described as "reads based on literally nothing at all."

Then he goes bonkers over a little bit of nothing from both Breshke and GlowingBear, and nothing helps to create a poor Town atmosphere for catching Scum more than jumping at those sorts of inconsequential bits of nothing, and trying to turn them into major talking points. It distracts the Town from actually doing anything productive.

He would later say "My arguments on yamato and Slam are in fact really fucking good" which is laugh-out-loud preposterous. Says he's 95% sure Alakaslam is Mafia and 98% sure that I am. Why would a TOWN player ever want to take up space in the thread spouting stupid crap like that?

Even more useless (somehow?) are posts such as: "Like i am literally the towniest person in this game." There is never any reason for a Town player to say something like this.

The name of the game is for the Town players to work together, and create conditions where the Scum players cannot conceal themselves. With that goal in mind, everything rayn does is wrong.
n00bKing
Profile Joined June 2015
United States1202 Posts
September 05 2015 02:11 GMT
#391
On September 05 2015 10:52 Breshke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2015 10:49 n00bKing wrote:
On September 05 2015 10:33 Breshke wrote:
I don't really see what you are doing noobking as pressuring rayn because i don't see how you would be getting an allighnment read from it.

I'm doing more than just getting a read on rayn's alignment. And I don't need you to understand all of the things that I am doing, in order for them to work.

I never said that I need to understand it for it to work. If you are town you better hope people can understand it when you get whatever you want to get otherwise even if you nail the scumteam whatever your doing is useless.

Are you threatening me? Using fear as a weapon against me, so that I'll discontinue whatever I'm pursuing? Or sabotage it by explaining it?

Yes, if I get whatever I want to get, then it will be explained, and people will understand it. For me to nail the scum team would not be useless. I do not have a difficult time conveying a point.
n00bKing
Profile Joined June 2015
United States1202 Posts
September 05 2015 02:16 GMT
#397
On September 05 2015 11:09 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2015 11:06 n00bKing wrote:
On September 05 2015 10:35 CopCake wrote:
look at my post where i say why i consider him town, because i won't accept "analyzing little details" as an answer.

There IS no post where you say you consider rayn Town, much less give an explanation for why you would consider him Town.

There is a post where you say "When rayn uses more 'tone reads and emotional reads' he tends to be mafia." And that could be taken as an insinuation that rayn could be Town....IF it weren't for the FACT that he's used tone reads or emotional reads in THIS game.

Look at what he has said about how he determined the allegiances of Alakaslam and yamato. They are both "tonereads" at best, if not better described as "reads based on literally nothing at all."

Then he goes bonkers over a little bit of nothing from both Breshke and GlowingBear, and nothing helps to create a poor Town atmosphere for catching Scum more than jumping at those sorts of inconsequential bits of nothing, and trying to turn them into major talking points. It distracts the Town from actually doing anything productive.

He would later say "My arguments on yamato and Slam are in fact really fucking good" which is laugh-out-loud preposterous. Says he's 95% sure Alakaslam is Mafia and 98% sure that I am. Why would a TOWN player ever want to take up space in the thread spouting stupid crap like that?

Even more useless (somehow?) are posts such as: "Like i am literally the towniest person in this game." There is never any reason for a Town player to say something like this.

The name of the game is for the Town players to work together, and create conditions where the Scum players cannot conceal themselves. With that goal in mind, everything rayn does is wrong.


Dude

there's one thing that makes rayn PRETTY TOWNIE and a fucking OBVIOUS ONE.

The whole thing when GB claimed.

Pls.

I could see myself reacting to GB's claim the same way rayn did ONLY if I were Scum. NEVER would it cross my mind to react that way, if I were Town.
n00bKing
Profile Joined June 2015
United States1202 Posts
September 05 2015 02:18 GMT
#402
On September 05 2015 11:11 Breshke wrote:
I legit think the case thingo on slam is really good.

lol @ the notion that there is a case on slam. Haha, ha ha...ha.
n00bKing
Profile Joined June 2015
United States1202 Posts
September 05 2015 02:29 GMT
#412
On September 05 2015 11:19 Breshke wrote:
Lol noobking could very well be mafia.

Tries to buddy me realizes it isnt working reverts to old strategy of antagonizing. A+

Apparently I've forgotten the part where I was trying to buddy you.
CopCake wrote: ok noobking

how would a TOWNIE react to the gb claim?

A Town player would react to the claim exactly as I did. (Which was to have no reaction.)
n00bKing
Profile Joined June 2015
United States1202 Posts
September 05 2015 02:31 GMT
#414
On September 05 2015 11:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2015 11:22 CopCake wrote:
ok noobking

how would a TOWNIE react to the gb claim?

you aren't getting an answer that helps you in any way with this.

And rayn adds "attempting to shut down discussion before it can happen" to his list of gifts to the Town. No wonder he has TWICE felt compelled to tell everyone that he is the Towniest player around, and is being productive "over anyone else."
n00bKing
Profile Joined June 2015
United States1202 Posts
September 05 2015 02:33 GMT
#417
On September 05 2015 11:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2015 11:27 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On September 05 2015 11:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 05 2015 11:21 GlowingBear wrote:
noob what do you think of moosy doosy? what are your reads other than rayn?

i am actually degrading moosy to null jsut because he should answer you instead of talking about other stuff atm.

wait what question?

you have to look that up by yourself. you have been asked to answer at least three times already...

Increases his post count/filter length, while blatantly refusing to be helpful toward a null read (when any null read is statistically more likely to be Town than Scum).
n00bKing
Profile Joined June 2015
United States1202 Posts
September 05 2015 02:45 GMT
#424
On September 05 2015 11:35 GlowingBear wrote:
Care to answer my questions please?

I'll share reads and lynch targets as appropriate. So the answers to your questions about Slam and Moosy are in the "pending" file.
n00bKing
Profile Joined June 2015
United States1202 Posts
September 05 2015 03:05 GMT
#451
On September 05 2015 11:57 Breshke wrote:
DMA but yeah this isn't really relevant rn because rayn is probably town and idk about cake but they can never be mafia together

rn = right now? DMA = ?
n00bKing
Profile Joined June 2015
United States1202 Posts
September 05 2015 03:11 GMT
#459
On September 05 2015 12:03 Alakaslam wrote:
Please make sure this doesn't turn into simply joining a fray.

If they talk past each other, what makes you certain they don't just talk past you?

Because I am an excellent communicator and mediator.

I see your point, and it makes sense, as you don't know me. But experience has shown me that I can *successfully* clear up misunderstandings between people, instead of them just ignoring my explanations of what happened, and continuing to talk past one another.

Do him no discredit for his read of me, but please see it's prematurity.

Not sure how one would fail to see its prematurity. lol
n00bKing
Profile Joined June 2015
United States1202 Posts
September 05 2015 03:46 GMT
#478
On September 05 2015 12:38 Breshke wrote:
rayn wasn't even talking about you being scum. If i was doing what you are saying i was doing wouldn't I have put my vote on noobking?

What did you mean by "the slam thing" (which you mentioned when casting the vote against him) if you didn't mean rayn talking about him being scum, and the reasons (if you could call them that) why he thought so?
n00bKing
Profile Joined June 2015
United States1202 Posts
September 05 2015 04:07 GMT
#494
On September 05 2015 12:51 Breshke wrote:
OKAY so the slam thing is that slam was here at the start of the game all excited and whatnot he even posted in the 30 minute silence time. Then the game starts and he just disappeared. This is more likely to come from scum.

Why?

n00bKing
Profile Joined June 2015
United States1202 Posts
September 05 2015 05:23 GMT
#541
On September 05 2015 13:35 GlowingBear wrote:
Slam, rayn did not cast suspicions on you so he could catch lazy mafia trying to lynch town slam.

Agree.
n00bKing
Profile Joined June 2015
United States1202 Posts
September 05 2015 05:34 GMT
#546
No one gives a shit about this 9 posts vs 3 posts, 4 posts vs 3 posts, 11 posts vs 3 posts crap. Knock it off.
n00bKing
Profile Joined June 2015
United States1202 Posts
September 05 2015 05:36 GMT
#550
On September 05 2015 14:33 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2015 14:23 n00bKing wrote:
On September 05 2015 13:35 GlowingBear wrote:
Slam, rayn did not cast suspicions on you so he could catch lazy mafia trying to lynch town slam.

Agree.

I never claimed that. I claimed Rayn push had an unintended side effect

I can agree with what GB said without saying you claimed that. And it's important for people to be sure rayn wasn't doing that, even if you hadn't said he was.
n00bKing
Profile Joined June 2015
United States1202 Posts
September 05 2015 05:45 GMT
#556
On September 05 2015 14:34 GlowingBear wrote:
Ok, I undesrtand it now. But I think you're disregarding the rest of his play, which feels pretty townie.

Yeah, Page 1 of Breshke's filter is PRETTY Town, up until the last post.
n00bKing
Profile Joined June 2015
United States1202 Posts
September 05 2015 05:47 GMT
#557
On September 05 2015 14:39 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2015 14:36 n00bKing wrote:
On September 05 2015 14:33 Alakaslam wrote:
On September 05 2015 14:23 n00bKing wrote:
On September 05 2015 13:35 GlowingBear wrote:
Slam, rayn did not cast suspicions on you so he could catch lazy mafia trying to lynch town slam.

Agree.

I never claimed that. I claimed Rayn push had an unintended side effect

I can agree with what GB said without saying you claimed that. And it's important for people to be sure rayn wasn't doing that, even if you hadn't said he was.

Oof. If we have people who would draw that conclusion we have some dim bulbs

On THIS site, it seems like the games usually have a few dim bulbs. It's a lower level of play than I'm used to, and I'm still trying to make adjustments. This is an example of such an adjustment.
n00bKing
Profile Joined June 2015
United States1202 Posts
September 05 2015 05:54 GMT
#563
On September 05 2015 14:47 Alakaslam wrote:
GB only voting lurkers lol

Srs man, no more scummy than that? No wonder I was under pressure.

Only voting lurkers, like how he voted for rayn?

Anyway, the lurkers he's voted for aren't even the worst offenders. I think Hydra and boxerfred are both sitting on a post count of zero. Hopefully they will have some good stuff to add tomorrow.
n00bKing
Profile Joined June 2015
United States1202 Posts
September 05 2015 20:41 GMT
#682
On September 05 2015 11:11 GlowingBear wrote:
Noob, would you lynch slam today?

No, I don't believe I would. Most of his posting has come across to me as neutral, and he has done one thing that I would say is Town-indicative. He's posted enough that as more information comes available, the positions he's taken will take on meaning. As long as he maintains that posting rate, I think there will be better Day 1 options.
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
OSC
17:00
Mid Season Playoffs
ShoWTimE vs Krystianer
SteadfastSC231
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
mouzHeroMarine 805
SteadfastSC 231
PiGStarcraft103
CosmosSc2 60
StarCraft: Brood War
910 67
Counter-Strike
summit1g1621
minikerr39
Super Smash Bros
C9.Mang0193
Other Games
gofns10262
tarik_tv6180
shahzam314
Liquid`Hasu148
NeuroSwarm81
ViBE76
XaKoH 49
Trikslyr40
JuggernautJason22
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick2247
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 17 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 134
• mYiSmile146
• Response 6
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• sooper7s
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• blackmanpl 62
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
League of Legends
• Scarra1652
Other Games
• imaqtpie1257
• Shiphtur282
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
10h 32m
CrankTV Team League
12h 32m
WardiTV Qualifier
13h 32m
Epic.LAN
14h 32m
Big Brain Bouts
17h 32m
SHIN vs Elazer
Percival vs Nicoract
Reynor vs Lambo
Replay Cast
1d 1h
RSL Revival
1d 10h
Clem vs Lambo
Scarlett vs Cure
CranKy Ducklings
1d 11h
Epic.LAN
1d 14h
IPSL
1d 17h
Dragon vs Hawk
[ Show More ]
RSL Revival
2 days
Classic vs Trap
herO vs SHIN
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
IPSL
2 days
Bonyth vs Ret
WardiTV Weekly
3 days
Monday Night Weeklies
3 days
PiGosaur Cup
5 days
The PondCast
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
CrankTV Team League
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-07-13
HSC XXIX
Eternal Conflict S2 E2

Ongoing

IPSL Spring 2026
Acropolis #4
CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
RSL Revival: Season 6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
SCTL 2026 Spring
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S3: W3
ASL S22 SEASON OPEN Day 1
Escore Tournament S3: W4
ASL S22 SEASON OPEN Day 2
Escore Tournament S3: W5
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
HSC XXX
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
Light Tournament 2026
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale
Eternal Conflict S2 E3
Logitech G Connect 2026
StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.