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n00bKing
Profile Joined June 2015
United States1202 Posts
September 05 2015 01:49 GMT
#375
On September 05 2015 10:33 Breshke wrote:
I don't really see what you are doing noobking as pressuring rayn because i don't see how you would be getting an allighnment read from it.

I'm doing more than just getting a read on rayn's alignment. And I don't need you to understand all of the things that I am doing, in order for them to work.
n00bKing
Profile Joined June 2015
United States1202 Posts
September 05 2015 02:06 GMT
#387
On September 05 2015 10:35 CopCake wrote:
look at my post where i say why i consider him town, because i won't accept "analyzing little details" as an answer.

There IS no post where you say you consider rayn Town, much less give an explanation for why you would consider him Town.

There is a post where you say "When rayn uses more 'tone reads and emotional reads' he tends to be mafia." And that could be taken as an insinuation that rayn could be Town....IF it weren't for the FACT that he's used tone reads or emotional reads in THIS game.

Look at what he has said about how he determined the allegiances of Alakaslam and yamato. They are both "tonereads" at best, if not better described as "reads based on literally nothing at all."

Then he goes bonkers over a little bit of nothing from both Breshke and GlowingBear, and nothing helps to create a poor Town atmosphere for catching Scum more than jumping at those sorts of inconsequential bits of nothing, and trying to turn them into major talking points. It distracts the Town from actually doing anything productive.

He would later say "My arguments on yamato and Slam are in fact really fucking good" which is laugh-out-loud preposterous. Says he's 95% sure Alakaslam is Mafia and 98% sure that I am. Why would a TOWN player ever want to take up space in the thread spouting stupid crap like that?

Even more useless (somehow?) are posts such as: "Like i am literally the towniest person in this game." There is never any reason for a Town player to say something like this.

The name of the game is for the Town players to work together, and create conditions where the Scum players cannot conceal themselves. With that goal in mind, everything rayn does is wrong.
n00bKing
Profile Joined June 2015
United States1202 Posts
September 05 2015 02:11 GMT
#391
On September 05 2015 10:52 Breshke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2015 10:49 n00bKing wrote:
On September 05 2015 10:33 Breshke wrote:
I don't really see what you are doing noobking as pressuring rayn because i don't see how you would be getting an allighnment read from it.

I'm doing more than just getting a read on rayn's alignment. And I don't need you to understand all of the things that I am doing, in order for them to work.

I never said that I need to understand it for it to work. If you are town you better hope people can understand it when you get whatever you want to get otherwise even if you nail the scumteam whatever your doing is useless.

Are you threatening me? Using fear as a weapon against me, so that I'll discontinue whatever I'm pursuing? Or sabotage it by explaining it?

Yes, if I get whatever I want to get, then it will be explained, and people will understand it. For me to nail the scum team would not be useless. I do not have a difficult time conveying a point.
n00bKing
Profile Joined June 2015
United States1202 Posts
September 05 2015 02:16 GMT
#397
On September 05 2015 11:09 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2015 11:06 n00bKing wrote:
On September 05 2015 10:35 CopCake wrote:
look at my post where i say why i consider him town, because i won't accept "analyzing little details" as an answer.

There IS no post where you say you consider rayn Town, much less give an explanation for why you would consider him Town.

There is a post where you say "When rayn uses more 'tone reads and emotional reads' he tends to be mafia." And that could be taken as an insinuation that rayn could be Town....IF it weren't for the FACT that he's used tone reads or emotional reads in THIS game.

Look at what he has said about how he determined the allegiances of Alakaslam and yamato. They are both "tonereads" at best, if not better described as "reads based on literally nothing at all."

Then he goes bonkers over a little bit of nothing from both Breshke and GlowingBear, and nothing helps to create a poor Town atmosphere for catching Scum more than jumping at those sorts of inconsequential bits of nothing, and trying to turn them into major talking points. It distracts the Town from actually doing anything productive.

He would later say "My arguments on yamato and Slam are in fact really fucking good" which is laugh-out-loud preposterous. Says he's 95% sure Alakaslam is Mafia and 98% sure that I am. Why would a TOWN player ever want to take up space in the thread spouting stupid crap like that?

Even more useless (somehow?) are posts such as: "Like i am literally the towniest person in this game." There is never any reason for a Town player to say something like this.

The name of the game is for the Town players to work together, and create conditions where the Scum players cannot conceal themselves. With that goal in mind, everything rayn does is wrong.


Dude

there's one thing that makes rayn PRETTY TOWNIE and a fucking OBVIOUS ONE.

The whole thing when GB claimed.

Pls.

I could see myself reacting to GB's claim the same way rayn did ONLY if I were Scum. NEVER would it cross my mind to react that way, if I were Town.
n00bKing
Profile Joined June 2015
United States1202 Posts
September 05 2015 02:18 GMT
#402
On September 05 2015 11:11 Breshke wrote:
I legit think the case thingo on slam is really good.

lol @ the notion that there is a case on slam. Haha, ha ha...ha.
n00bKing
Profile Joined June 2015
United States1202 Posts
September 05 2015 02:29 GMT
#412
On September 05 2015 11:19 Breshke wrote:
Lol noobking could very well be mafia.

Tries to buddy me realizes it isnt working reverts to old strategy of antagonizing. A+

Apparently I've forgotten the part where I was trying to buddy you.
CopCake wrote: ok noobking

how would a TOWNIE react to the gb claim?

A Town player would react to the claim exactly as I did. (Which was to have no reaction.)
n00bKing
Profile Joined June 2015
United States1202 Posts
September 05 2015 02:31 GMT
#414
On September 05 2015 11:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2015 11:22 CopCake wrote:
ok noobking

how would a TOWNIE react to the gb claim?

you aren't getting an answer that helps you in any way with this.

And rayn adds "attempting to shut down discussion before it can happen" to his list of gifts to the Town. No wonder he has TWICE felt compelled to tell everyone that he is the Towniest player around, and is being productive "over anyone else."
n00bKing
Profile Joined June 2015
United States1202 Posts
September 05 2015 02:33 GMT
#417
On September 05 2015 11:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2015 11:27 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On September 05 2015 11:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 05 2015 11:21 GlowingBear wrote:
noob what do you think of moosy doosy? what are your reads other than rayn?

i am actually degrading moosy to null jsut because he should answer you instead of talking about other stuff atm.

wait what question?

you have to look that up by yourself. you have been asked to answer at least three times already...

Increases his post count/filter length, while blatantly refusing to be helpful toward a null read (when any null read is statistically more likely to be Town than Scum).
n00bKing
Profile Joined June 2015
United States1202 Posts
September 05 2015 02:45 GMT
#424
On September 05 2015 11:35 GlowingBear wrote:
Care to answer my questions please?

I'll share reads and lynch targets as appropriate. So the answers to your questions about Slam and Moosy are in the "pending" file.
n00bKing
Profile Joined June 2015
United States1202 Posts
September 05 2015 03:05 GMT
#451
On September 05 2015 11:57 Breshke wrote:
DMA but yeah this isn't really relevant rn because rayn is probably town and idk about cake but they can never be mafia together

rn = right now? DMA = ?
n00bKing
Profile Joined June 2015
United States1202 Posts
September 05 2015 03:11 GMT
#459
On September 05 2015 12:03 Alakaslam wrote:
Please make sure this doesn't turn into simply joining a fray.

If they talk past each other, what makes you certain they don't just talk past you?

Because I am an excellent communicator and mediator.

I see your point, and it makes sense, as you don't know me. But experience has shown me that I can *successfully* clear up misunderstandings between people, instead of them just ignoring my explanations of what happened, and continuing to talk past one another.

Do him no discredit for his read of me, but please see it's prematurity.

Not sure how one would fail to see its prematurity. lol
n00bKing
Profile Joined June 2015
United States1202 Posts
September 05 2015 03:46 GMT
#478
On September 05 2015 12:38 Breshke wrote:
rayn wasn't even talking about you being scum. If i was doing what you are saying i was doing wouldn't I have put my vote on noobking?

What did you mean by "the slam thing" (which you mentioned when casting the vote against him) if you didn't mean rayn talking about him being scum, and the reasons (if you could call them that) why he thought so?
n00bKing
Profile Joined June 2015
United States1202 Posts
September 05 2015 04:07 GMT
#494
On September 05 2015 12:51 Breshke wrote:
OKAY so the slam thing is that slam was here at the start of the game all excited and whatnot he even posted in the 30 minute silence time. Then the game starts and he just disappeared. This is more likely to come from scum.

Why?

n00bKing
Profile Joined June 2015
United States1202 Posts
September 05 2015 05:23 GMT
#541
On September 05 2015 13:35 GlowingBear wrote:
Slam, rayn did not cast suspicions on you so he could catch lazy mafia trying to lynch town slam.

Agree.
n00bKing
Profile Joined June 2015
United States1202 Posts
September 05 2015 05:34 GMT
#546
No one gives a shit about this 9 posts vs 3 posts, 4 posts vs 3 posts, 11 posts vs 3 posts crap. Knock it off.
n00bKing
Profile Joined June 2015
United States1202 Posts
September 05 2015 05:36 GMT
#550
On September 05 2015 14:33 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2015 14:23 n00bKing wrote:
On September 05 2015 13:35 GlowingBear wrote:
Slam, rayn did not cast suspicions on you so he could catch lazy mafia trying to lynch town slam.

Agree.

I never claimed that. I claimed Rayn push had an unintended side effect

I can agree with what GB said without saying you claimed that. And it's important for people to be sure rayn wasn't doing that, even if you hadn't said he was.
n00bKing
Profile Joined June 2015
United States1202 Posts
September 05 2015 05:45 GMT
#556
On September 05 2015 14:34 GlowingBear wrote:
Ok, I undesrtand it now. But I think you're disregarding the rest of his play, which feels pretty townie.

Yeah, Page 1 of Breshke's filter is PRETTY Town, up until the last post.
n00bKing
Profile Joined June 2015
United States1202 Posts
September 05 2015 05:47 GMT
#557
On September 05 2015 14:39 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2015 14:36 n00bKing wrote:
On September 05 2015 14:33 Alakaslam wrote:
On September 05 2015 14:23 n00bKing wrote:
On September 05 2015 13:35 GlowingBear wrote:
Slam, rayn did not cast suspicions on you so he could catch lazy mafia trying to lynch town slam.

Agree.

I never claimed that. I claimed Rayn push had an unintended side effect

I can agree with what GB said without saying you claimed that. And it's important for people to be sure rayn wasn't doing that, even if you hadn't said he was.

Oof. If we have people who would draw that conclusion we have some dim bulbs

On THIS site, it seems like the games usually have a few dim bulbs. It's a lower level of play than I'm used to, and I'm still trying to make adjustments. This is an example of such an adjustment.
n00bKing
Profile Joined June 2015
United States1202 Posts
September 05 2015 05:54 GMT
#563
On September 05 2015 14:47 Alakaslam wrote:
GB only voting lurkers lol

Srs man, no more scummy than that? No wonder I was under pressure.

Only voting lurkers, like how he voted for rayn?

Anyway, the lurkers he's voted for aren't even the worst offenders. I think Hydra and boxerfred are both sitting on a post count of zero. Hopefully they will have some good stuff to add tomorrow.
n00bKing
Profile Joined June 2015
United States1202 Posts
September 05 2015 20:41 GMT
#682
On September 05 2015 11:11 GlowingBear wrote:
Noob, would you lynch slam today?

No, I don't believe I would. Most of his posting has come across to me as neutral, and he has done one thing that I would say is Town-indicative. He's posted enough that as more information comes available, the positions he's taken will take on meaning. As long as he maintains that posting rate, I think there will be better Day 1 options.
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