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there is also a voting thread if people didn't notice
also this
On September 05 2015 10:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2015 10:44 MoosyDoosy wrote:
mmm...I consider myself the best person in this game to read n00bKing rite now so i know what im doing sir. and everything else i've been doing actually does make sense too.
I disagree because you couldn't figure out he is mafia in the last game while others could. And could you answer GB?
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On September 05 2015 10:49 n00bKing wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2015 10:33 Breshke wrote:
I don't really see what you are doing noobking as pressuring rayn because i don't see how you would be getting an allighnment read from it. I'm doing more than just getting a read on rayn's alignment. And I don't need you to understand all of the things that I am doing, in order for them to work.
I never said that I need to understand it for it to work. If you are town you better hope people can understand it when you get whatever you want to get otherwise even if you nail the scumteam whatever your doing is useless.
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I legit think the case thingo on slam is really good.
Reminds me of the first (probably only) scum lynch i ever pushed in my like 3rd game on kush.
GB might remember it not that its relevant.
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On September 05 2015 11:11 n00bKing wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2015 10:52 Breshke wrote:On September 05 2015 10:49 n00bKing wrote:On September 05 2015 10:33 Breshke wrote:
I don't really see what you are doing noobking as pressuring rayn because i don't see how you would be getting an allighnment read from it. I'm doing more than just getting a read on rayn's alignment. And I don't need you to understand all of the things that I am doing, in order for them to work. I never said that I need to understand it for it to work. If you are town you better hope people can understand it when you get whatever you want to get otherwise even if you nail the scumteam whatever your doing is useless. Are you threatening me? Using fear as a weapon against me, so that I'll discontinue whatever I'm pursuing? Or sabotage it by explaining it? Yes, if I get whatever I want to get, then it will be explained, and people will understand it. For me to nail the scum team would not be useless. I do not have a difficult time conveying a point.
No. Let me explain. I was like wtf are you doing noob i dont see how you can be getting reads from this.
Then you are like YOU DONT NEED TO UNDERSTAND I DO WHAT I WANT
Then im like well no actually you will need to eventually explain it because yes you might find every scum person and be 100 percent sure but if you cant convince the rest of town then you can't get the scum lynched and you will still lose.
Im paraphrasing obviously but im just making sure it was clear to you.
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Lol noobking could very well be mafia.
Tries to buddy me realizes it isnt working reverts to old strategy of antagonizing. A+
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DMA but yeah this isn't really relevant rn because rayn is probably town and idk about cake but they can never be mafia together
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On September 05 2015 12:05 n00bKing wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2015 11:57 Breshke wrote:
DMA but yeah this isn't really relevant rn because rayn is probably town and idk about cake but they can never be mafia together rn = right now? DMA = ?
Dick move analysis
If they were scum together i feel the idle chit chat would be in the scum QT not thread. as i said not that relevant but could be useful later.
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i dont think its actual DMA but couldnt think of a better phrase
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On September 05 2015 12:10 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2015 10:33 Breshke wrote:On September 05 2015 10:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 05 2015 10:08 Breshke wrote:
SO when noobking said "Does rayn leap to ridiculous conclusions with no basis as either allegiance? Or only when he's Town?"
He was not being serious rayn. IIRC i think he was responding to yamato and he is trying to imply that you can not be town because you are leaping to ridiculous conclusions. This wasn't actually a question about your meta.
The why doesn't he fucking clarify it? Instead he keeps dancing around the issue and saying something else. Did you play in Newbie Student Mafia XIII? Like it was literally what he did all game long. Someone makes a clear point, he just twists the points into oblivion so noone even remembers the original argument anymore. He's like kitaman when scum, except for kitaman is really fucking good at it. He was asking you some question like about what you ment by your own defininition. From my pov he clearly im taking it as he didn't understand that you didnt ralise his post was sarcastic or w/e. If XIII is the one from mooseys sig then yes i was in it. I also want to add that I think the way noobking is acting towards you(rayn) is fairly anti town/scummy. Antagonizing someone isn't pressure. I don't really see what you are doing noobking as pressuring rayn because i don't see how you would be getting an allighnment read from it. That being said i think the slam thing is a really good place to put my vote right now and it kills two birds with one stone ##Vote Alakaslam Mafia. What the hell kind of two birds and no reasoning at all, just sleeping Rayn which Rayn has posted so much he probably thought it was town sentiment. Another reason my Rayn respect is high.
rayn wasn't even talking about you being scum. If i was doing what you are saying i was doing wouldn't I have put my vote on noobking?
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On September 05 2015 12:46 n00bKing wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2015 12:38 Breshke wrote:
rayn wasn't even talking about you being scum. If i was doing what you are saying i was doing wouldn't I have put my vote on noobking? What did you mean by "the slam thing" (which you mentioned when casting the vote against him) if you didn't mean rayn talking about him being scum, and the reasons (if you could call them that) why he thought so?
urgh. OKAY so the slam thing is that slam was here at the start of the game all excited and whatnot he even posted in the 30 minute silence time. Then the game starts and he just disappeared. This is more likely to come from scum.
Yes this was rayns reasoning so yes i was sheeping him but that is not what slam was saying i did.
Slam is saying Im voting him because i am trying to follow thread sentiment (saying that rayn himself is thread sentiment because he has posted a lot) which is not true because rayn has posted shit all about slam without me prodding/asking. So if i was doing what slam is acusing me of I would be voting for noobking because that's what rayn has been mostly talking about.
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On September 05 2015 12:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2015 12:51 Breshke wrote:
...because rayn has posted shit all about slam without me prodding/asking. that's not actually true.
Here are all your posts i can find about slam before i asked about the read
On September 05 2015 07:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:yamato i am almost certain Slam is mafia. 
On September 05 2015 08:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2015 08:56 yamato77 wrote:
I don't think baiting rayn into getting angry is the right way to be playing this D1.
He's been fairly obvious town so far. glowingbear does that as scum though. he banks on me coming to a conclusion "too dumb to be scum", but he's played that card already so it does not work. idk maybe Breshke is town after all, we'll see. I really think Slam is mafia, can you see why?
On September 05 2015 09:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2015 09:30 MoosyDoosy wrote:On September 05 2015 07:46 Breshke wrote:
So do we just sit back and wait for the yamato/rayn magic to happen? This was Breshke's post. In this his tone is sarcastic which matches his general acerbic posting. I don't see why you would say this: On September 05 2015 08:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 05 2015 08:22 MoosyDoosy wrote:On September 05 2015 08:19 MoosyDoosy wrote:On September 05 2015 08:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 05 2015 08:07 MoosyDoosy wrote:On September 05 2015 07:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 05 2015 07:53 yamato77 wrote:
Of all the people in the game, I have the least reasons to like GB's posting. I want him to answer me. I dislike Breshke the most. The "do we just wait yamato/rayn magic to happen" is out of place as he doesn't even think either of us is necessarily town and idk.. it's jsut totally out of place, the whole post. Like is anyone even suggesting anything like that? Or like following your suggestion that "we should destroy mafia rayn"... Like that doesn't mean we will jsut own the thread and noone else has nothing to say about anything. meh.. idk how to explain, the post is just terrible, doesn't make any sense and the timing goes along the same path. I feel like it's NAI. It's probably a mix of pun and an observation. If yo uboth are town then you both are going to show something for it. and if u don't then it's an easy way to make some reads off of making an inner circle early on yeah? just some thoughts Of course we are. The reason i am reading yamato town is because i talked with him on TS last night and he has rolled mafia for like 5 games in a row or something and i told him "hey let's wreck mafia if we are both town, it would be nice to play with you when you are actually town and play". He basically promised to play in his first post, because he seems interested in the game and happy. If it's a fake post then i will 100% figure it out based on his play AFTERWARDS, but as per now there is zero reason to think yamato is mafia. I don't really get what you are saying here. Like are you suggesting posts that do not make any sense and do not help town find mafia are not scummy? Because in my opinion they are. Again there was no reason for him to make the post from town perspective, hell he himself clarified that already. Like obviously he is not 100% mafia, which is why i am not voting for him, but that was a HUGE red flag for me. So if Breshke is town he better shape up, because he is actually a decent player when he plays, and i expect everyone who is town to play. What he did so far is far from decent. Superbia can go to townpile aswell. l0l ok. thnx for the background story which helps make ur and yamato's posts make sense. and no im not saying what ur saying doesn't make sense. what i AM saying is that ur nitpicking over a post. because i actually thought that u and yamato associating with each other was a bit strange and i was looking to see what u guys did further. I always nitpick over posts. That's how you find scum. And yes the latter part of your post is reasonable, that's how i would think people react. It's not how Breshke reacted though... He's basically saying he's waiting to see what you guys will do but you're saying that's not what he said? Also thoughts on the evolution of your read on Breshke. At first you think he's very likely to be Mafia then seem to waffle and say we'll have to see later on. Also around this time you seem to want to kill GlowingBear. I don't like how you give up one thing when GlowingBear starts to seem like a better lynch target with his terrible shenanigans. Here is my read evolution of Breshke: - I saw a post i think makes no sense from town perspective. - I asked him about it. - He answered, and then i said "it does not make any sense from town perspective". - I pushed him further, because i wanted a reaction (a better elaboration, in case he is town) and i wanted to make sure he knows i have my eyes on him because he CAN be lazy as town, but if he is town i don't want to allow him to be lazy, and i wanted him to know he does know that. - He said "okay, my post was indeed fluff, but idk what to expect from people at that point of the game" - That makes sense to me, i didn't even originally think about that. But now that he said it it makes a bit more sense. - Then i responded him basically with saying "if you are town you will play, okay" - After that his posting has been better, so i have a reason to believe he is not in fact mafia -> his behavior now to me makes more sense. I focused onto both Breshke and Glowingbear at the same time. I already knew what i would say regarding how GB answers me. I want to cut out the stupidity from this game. Again, i have not been pushing GB, and again, i don't even care if he is mafia or not, he earned himself a spot in "ignore pile", if someone else wants to figure him out do it. I think it's more likely that he is mafia fro what i have said but i am not sure. My "timing" on Breshke/GB thing has nothing to do with anything for reals. I think the most likely people who are mafia in this game atm are Slam & Noobking.
Tell me where you talked about slam so much that I as mafia would have thought voting slam is thread sentiment.
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On September 05 2015 13:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2015 13:00 Breshke wrote:On September 05 2015 12:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 05 2015 12:51 Breshke wrote:
...because rayn has posted shit all about slam without me prodding/asking. that's not actually true. Here are all your posts i can find about slam before i asked about the read On September 05 2015 07:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:yamato i am almost certain Slam is mafia. On September 05 2015 08:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 05 2015 08:56 yamato77 wrote:
I don't think baiting rayn into getting angry is the right way to be playing this D1.
He's been fairly obvious town so far. glowingbear does that as scum though. he banks on me coming to a conclusion "too dumb to be scum", but he's played that card already so it does not work. idk maybe Breshke is town after all, we'll see. I really think Slam is mafia, can you see why? On September 05 2015 09:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 05 2015 09:30 MoosyDoosy wrote:On September 05 2015 07:46 Breshke wrote:
So do we just sit back and wait for the yamato/rayn magic to happen? This was Breshke's post. In this his tone is sarcastic which matches his general acerbic posting. I don't see why you would say this: On September 05 2015 08:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 05 2015 08:22 MoosyDoosy wrote:On September 05 2015 08:19 MoosyDoosy wrote:On September 05 2015 08:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 05 2015 08:07 MoosyDoosy wrote:On September 05 2015 07:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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I want him to answer me.
I dislike Breshke the most.
The "do we just wait yamato/rayn magic to happen" is out of place as he doesn't even think either of us is necessarily town and idk.. it's jsut totally out of place, the whole post. Like is anyone even suggesting anything like that? Or like following your suggestion that "we should destroy mafia rayn"... Like that doesn't mean we will jsut own the thread and noone else has nothing to say about anything.
meh.. idk how to explain, the post is just terrible, doesn't make any sense and the timing goes along the same path. I feel like it's NAI. It's probably a mix of pun and an observation. If yo uboth are town then you both are going to show something for it. and if u don't then it's an easy way to make some reads off of making an inner circle early on yeah? just some thoughts Of course we are. The reason i am reading yamato town is because i talked with him on TS last night and he has rolled mafia for like 5 games in a row or something and i told him "hey let's wreck mafia if we are both town, it would be nice to play with you when you are actually town and play". He basically promised to play in his first post, because he seems interested in the game and happy. If it's a fake post then i will 100% figure it out based on his play AFTERWARDS, but as per now there is zero reason to think yamato is mafia. I don't really get what you are saying here. Like are you suggesting posts that do not make any sense and do not help town find mafia are not scummy? Because in my opinion they are. Again there was no reason for him to make the post from town perspective, hell he himself clarified that already. Like obviously he is not 100% mafia, which is why i am not voting for him, but that was a HUGE red flag for me. So if Breshke is town he better shape up, because he is actually a decent player when he plays, and i expect everyone who is town to play. What he did so far is far from decent. Superbia can go to townpile aswell. l0l ok. thnx for the background story which helps make ur and yamato's posts make sense. and no im not saying what ur saying doesn't make sense. what i AM saying is that ur nitpicking over a post. because i actually thought that u and yamato associating with each other was a bit strange and i was looking to see what u guys did further. I always nitpick over posts. That's how you find scum. And yes the latter part of your post is reasonable, that's how i would think people react. It's not how Breshke reacted though... He's basically saying he's waiting to see what you guys will do but you're saying that's not what he said? Also thoughts on the evolution of your read on Breshke. At first you think he's very likely to be Mafia then seem to waffle and say we'll have to see later on. Also around this time you seem to want to kill GlowingBear. I don't like how you give up one thing when GlowingBear starts to seem like a better lynch target with his terrible shenanigans. Here is my read evolution of Breshke: - I saw a post i think makes no sense from town perspective. - I asked him about it. - He answered, and then i said "it does not make any sense from town perspective". - I pushed him further, because i wanted a reaction (a better elaboration, in case he is town) and i wanted to make sure he knows i have my eyes on him because he CAN be lazy as town, but if he is town i don't want to allow him to be lazy, and i wanted him to know he does know that. - He said "okay, my post was indeed fluff, but idk what to expect from people at that point of the game" - That makes sense to me, i didn't even originally think about that. But now that he said it it makes a bit more sense. - Then i responded him basically with saying "if you are town you will play, okay" - After that his posting has been better, so i have a reason to believe he is not in fact mafia -> his behavior now to me makes more sense. I focused onto both Breshke and Glowingbear at the same time. I already knew what i would say regarding how GB answers me. I want to cut out the stupidity from this game. Again, i have not been pushing GB, and again, i don't even care if he is mafia or not, he earned himself a spot in "ignore pile", if someone else wants to figure him out do it. I think it's more likely that he is mafia fro what i have said but i am not sure. My "timing" on Breshke/GB thing has nothing to do with anything for reals. I think the most likely people who are mafia in this game atm are Slam & Noobking. Tell me where you talked about slam so much that I as mafia would have thought voting slam is thread sentiment. I am not talking about thread sentiment and neither is Slam. He is saying that if you are mafia you very well know what i mean and you know it's a reason to call Slam mafia, even without me ACTUALLY saying it. Which i totally agree with it.
Im kinda getting confused here.
Slam is exactly saying I am mafia because im pushing him and my only reason for pushing him is because i thought it was thread sentiment because you were pushing him
On September 05 2015 12:10 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2015 10:33 Breshke wrote:On September 05 2015 10:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 05 2015 10:08 Breshke wrote:
SO when noobking said "Does rayn leap to ridiculous conclusions with no basis as either allegiance? Or only when he's Town?"
He was not being serious rayn. IIRC i think he was responding to yamato and he is trying to imply that you can not be town because you are leaping to ridiculous conclusions. This wasn't actually a question about your meta.
The why doesn't he fucking clarify it? Instead he keeps dancing around the issue and saying something else. Did you play in Newbie Student Mafia XIII? Like it was literally what he did all game long. Someone makes a clear point, he just twists the points into oblivion so noone even remembers the original argument anymore. He's like kitaman when scum, except for kitaman is really fucking good at it. He was asking you some question like about what you ment by your own defininition. From my pov he clearly im taking it as he didn't understand that you didnt ralise his post was sarcastic or w/e. If XIII is the one from mooseys sig then yes i was in it. I also want to add that I think the way noobking is acting towards you(rayn) is fairly anti town/scummy. Antagonizing someone isn't pressure. I don't really see what you are doing noobking as pressuring rayn because i don't see how you would be getting an allighnment read from it. That being said i think the slam thing is a really good place to put my vote right now and it kills two birds with one stone ##Vote Alakaslam Mafia. What the hell kind of two birds and no reasoning at all, just sleeping Rayn which Rayn has posted so much he probably thought it was town sentiment. Another reason my Rayn respect is high.
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On September 05 2015 13:07 n00bKing wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2015 12:51 Breshke wrote:
OKAY so the slam thing is that slam was here at the start of the game all excited and whatnot he even posted in the 30 minute silence time. Then the game starts and he just disappeared. This is more likely to come from scum. Why?
Because people don't like playing scum.
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On September 05 2015 13:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2015 13:06 Breshke wrote:On September 05 2015 13:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 05 2015 13:00 Breshke wrote:On September 05 2015 12:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 05 2015 12:51 Breshke wrote:
...because rayn has posted shit all about slam without me prodding/asking. that's not actually true. Here are all your posts i can find about slam before i asked about the read On September 05 2015 07:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:yamato i am almost certain Slam is mafia. On September 05 2015 08:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 05 2015 08:56 yamato77 wrote:
I don't think baiting rayn into getting angry is the right way to be playing this D1.
He's been fairly obvious town so far. glowingbear does that as scum though. he banks on me coming to a conclusion "too dumb to be scum", but he's played that card already so it does not work. idk maybe Breshke is town after all, we'll see. I really think Slam is mafia, can you see why? On September 05 2015 09:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 05 2015 09:30 MoosyDoosy wrote:On September 05 2015 07:46 Breshke wrote:
So do we just sit back and wait for the yamato/rayn magic to happen? This was Breshke's post. In this his tone is sarcastic which matches his general acerbic posting. I don't see why you would say this: On September 05 2015 08:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 05 2015 08:22 MoosyDoosy wrote:On September 05 2015 08:19 MoosyDoosy wrote:On September 05 2015 08:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:[quote] Of course we are. The reason i am reading yamato town is because i talked with him on TS last night and he has rolled mafia for like 5 games in a row or something and i told him "hey let's wreck mafia if we are both town, it would be nice to play with you when you are actually town and play". He basically promised to play in his first post, because he seems interested in the game and happy. If it's a fake post then i will 100% figure it out based on his play AFTERWARDS, but as per now there is zero reason to think yamato is mafia. I don't really get what you are saying here. Like are you suggesting posts that do not make any sense and do not help town find mafia are not scummy? Because in my opinion they are. Again there was no reason for him to make the post from town perspective, hell he himself clarified that already. Like obviously he is not 100% mafia, which is why i am not voting for him, but that was a HUGE red flag for me. So if Breshke is town he better shape up, because he is actually a decent player when he plays, and i expect everyone who is town to play. What he did so far is far from decent. Superbia can go to townpile aswell. l0l ok. thnx for the background story which helps make ur and yamato's posts make sense. and no im not saying what ur saying doesn't make sense. what i AM saying is that ur nitpicking over a post. because i actually thought that u and yamato associating with each other was a bit strange and i was looking to see what u guys did further. I always nitpick over posts. That's how you find scum. And yes the latter part of your post is reasonable, that's how i would think people react. It's not how Breshke reacted though... He's basically saying he's waiting to see what you guys will do but you're saying that's not what he said? Also thoughts on the evolution of your read on Breshke. At first you think he's very likely to be Mafia then seem to waffle and say we'll have to see later on. Also around this time you seem to want to kill GlowingBear. I don't like how you give up one thing when GlowingBear starts to seem like a better lynch target with his terrible shenanigans. Here is my read evolution of Breshke: - I saw a post i think makes no sense from town perspective. - I asked him about it. - He answered, and then i said "it does not make any sense from town perspective". - I pushed him further, because i wanted a reaction (a better elaboration, in case he is town) and i wanted to make sure he knows i have my eyes on him because he CAN be lazy as town, but if he is town i don't want to allow him to be lazy, and i wanted him to know he does know that. - He said "okay, my post was indeed fluff, but idk what to expect from people at that point of the game" - That makes sense to me, i didn't even originally think about that. But now that he said it it makes a bit more sense. - Then i responded him basically with saying "if you are town you will play, okay" - After that his posting has been better, so i have a reason to believe he is not in fact mafia -> his behavior now to me makes more sense. I focused onto both Breshke and Glowingbear at the same time. I already knew what i would say regarding how GB answers me. I want to cut out the stupidity from this game. Again, i have not been pushing GB, and again, i don't even care if he is mafia or not, he earned himself a spot in "ignore pile", if someone else wants to figure him out do it. I think it's more likely that he is mafia fro what i have said but i am not sure. My "timing" on Breshke/GB thing has nothing to do with anything for reals. I think the most likely people who are mafia in this game atm are Slam & Noobking. Tell me where you talked about slam so much that I as mafia would have thought voting slam is thread sentiment. I am not talking about thread sentiment and neither is Slam. He is saying that if you are mafia you very well know what i mean and you know it's a reason to call Slam mafia, even without me ACTUALLY saying it. Which i totally agree with it. Im kinda getting confused here. Slam is exactly saying I am mafia because im pushing him and my only reason for pushing him is because i thought it was thread sentiment because you were pushing him On September 05 2015 12:10 Alakaslam wrote:On September 05 2015 10:33 Breshke wrote:On September 05 2015 10:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 05 2015 10:08 Breshke wrote:
SO when noobking said "Does rayn leap to ridiculous conclusions with no basis as either allegiance? Or only when he's Town?"
He was not being serious rayn. IIRC i think he was responding to yamato and he is trying to imply that you can not be town because you are leaping to ridiculous conclusions. This wasn't actually a question about your meta.
The why doesn't he fucking clarify it? Instead he keeps dancing around the issue and saying something else. Did you play in Newbie Student Mafia XIII? Like it was literally what he did all game long. Someone makes a clear point, he just twists the points into oblivion so noone even remembers the original argument anymore. He's like kitaman when scum, except for kitaman is really fucking good at it. He was asking you some question like about what you ment by your own defininition. From my pov he clearly im taking it as he didn't understand that you didnt ralise his post was sarcastic or w/e. If XIII is the one from mooseys sig then yes i was in it. I also want to add that I think the way noobking is acting towards you(rayn) is fairly anti town/scummy. Antagonizing someone isn't pressure. I don't really see what you are doing noobking as pressuring rayn because i don't see how you would be getting an allighnment read from it. That being said i think the slam thing is a really good place to put my vote right now and it kills two birds with one stone ##Vote Alakaslam Mafia. What the hell kind of two birds and no reasoning at all, just sleeping Rayn which Rayn has posted so much he probably thought it was town sentiment. Another reason my Rayn respect is high. Yes, you could be "sheeping me" because you know i think Slam could be mafia for the same reasons you laid out. That's what he is saying, or like, that's his conclusion. Which is not totally out of this world.
I see what you are saying but i don't see how the comment that "i think I am following thread sentiment even though its just you and you've posted a lot" fits in when you had hardly talked about it. Like if i then think oh rayn is going to scumread slam for this reason ill do it first because that would be good. Then no im not following thread sentiment im trying to pocket you or w/e.
What slam originally said didn't make sense and when I pointed it out he didn't say that I was misunderstanding him so im not going to assume that he ment something else when it is clear to me what he said doesn't make sense.
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On September 05 2015 13:21 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2015 13:15 Breshke wrote:On September 05 2015 13:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 05 2015 13:06 Breshke wrote:On September 05 2015 13:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 05 2015 13:00 Breshke wrote:On September 05 2015 12:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 05 2015 12:51 Breshke wrote:
...because rayn has posted shit all about slam without me prodding/asking. that's not actually true. Here are all your posts i can find about slam before i asked about the read On September 05 2015 07:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:yamato i am almost certain Slam is mafia. On September 05 2015 08:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 05 2015 08:56 yamato77 wrote:
I don't think baiting rayn into getting angry is the right way to be playing this D1.
He's been fairly obvious town so far. glowingbear does that as scum though. he banks on me coming to a conclusion "too dumb to be scum", but he's played that card already so it does not work. idk maybe Breshke is town after all, we'll see. I really think Slam is mafia, can you see why? On September 05 2015 09:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 05 2015 09:30 MoosyDoosy wrote:On September 05 2015 07:46 Breshke wrote:
So do we just sit back and wait for the yamato/rayn magic to happen? This was Breshke's post. In this his tone is sarcastic which matches his general acerbic posting. I don't see why you would say this: On September 05 2015 08:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 05 2015 08:22 MoosyDoosy wrote:
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and no im not saying what ur saying doesn't make sense. what i AM saying is that ur nitpicking over a post. because i actually thought that u and yamato associating with each other was a bit strange and i was looking to see what u guys did further. I always nitpick over posts. That's how you find scum. And yes the latter part of your post is reasonable, that's how i would think people react. It's not how Breshke reacted though... He's basically saying he's waiting to see what you guys will do but you're saying that's not what he said? Also thoughts on the evolution of your read on Breshke. At first you think he's very likely to be Mafia then seem to waffle and say we'll have to see later on. Also around this time you seem to want to kill GlowingBear. I don't like how you give up one thing when GlowingBear starts to seem like a better lynch target with his terrible shenanigans. Here is my read evolution of Breshke: - I saw a post i think makes no sense from town perspective. - I asked him about it. - He answered, and then i said "it does not make any sense from town perspective". - I pushed him further, because i wanted a reaction (a better elaboration, in case he is town) and i wanted to make sure he knows i have my eyes on him because he CAN be lazy as town, but if he is town i don't want to allow him to be lazy, and i wanted him to know he does know that. - He said "okay, my post was indeed fluff, but idk what to expect from people at that point of the game" - That makes sense to me, i didn't even originally think about that. But now that he said it it makes a bit more sense. - Then i responded him basically with saying "if you are town you will play, okay" - After that his posting has been better, so i have a reason to believe he is not in fact mafia -> his behavior now to me makes more sense. I focused onto both Breshke and Glowingbear at the same time. I already knew what i would say regarding how GB answers me. I want to cut out the stupidity from this game. Again, i have not been pushing GB, and again, i don't even care if he is mafia or not, he earned himself a spot in "ignore pile", if someone else wants to figure him out do it. I think it's more likely that he is mafia fro what i have said but i am not sure. My "timing" on Breshke/GB thing has nothing to do with anything for reals. I think the most likely people who are mafia in this game atm are Slam & Noobking. Tell me where you talked about slam so much that I as mafia would have thought voting slam is thread sentiment. I am not talking about thread sentiment and neither is Slam. He is saying that if you are mafia you very well know what i mean and you know it's a reason to call Slam mafia, even without me ACTUALLY saying it. Which i totally agree with it. Im kinda getting confused here. Slam is exactly saying I am mafia because im pushing him and my only reason for pushing him is because i thought it was thread sentiment because you were pushing him On September 05 2015 12:10 Alakaslam wrote:On September 05 2015 10:33 Breshke wrote:On September 05 2015 10:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 05 2015 10:08 Breshke wrote:
SO when noobking said "Does rayn leap to ridiculous conclusions with no basis as either allegiance? Or only when he's Town?"
He was not being serious rayn. IIRC i think he was responding to yamato and he is trying to imply that you can not be town because you are leaping to ridiculous conclusions. This wasn't actually a question about your meta.
The why doesn't he fucking clarify it? Instead he keeps dancing around the issue and saying something else. Did you play in Newbie Student Mafia XIII? Like it was literally what he did all game long. Someone makes a clear point, he just twists the points into oblivion so noone even remembers the original argument anymore. He's like kitaman when scum, except for kitaman is really fucking good at it. He was asking you some question like about what you ment by your own defininition. From my pov he clearly im taking it as he didn't understand that you didnt ralise his post was sarcastic or w/e. If XIII is the one from mooseys sig then yes i was in it. I also want to add that I think the way noobking is acting towards you(rayn) is fairly anti town/scummy. Antagonizing someone isn't pressure. I don't really see what you are doing noobking as pressuring rayn because i don't see how you would be getting an allighnment read from it. That being said i think the slam thing is a really good place to put my vote right now and it kills two birds with one stone ##Vote Alakaslam Mafia. What the hell kind of two birds and no reasoning at all, just sleeping Rayn which Rayn has posted so much he probably thought it was town sentiment. Another reason my Rayn respect is high. Yes, you could be "sheeping me" because you know i think Slam could be mafia for the same reasons you laid out. That's what he is saying, or like, that's his conclusion. Which is not totally out of this world. I see what you are saying but i don't see how the comment that "i think I am following thread sentiment even though its just you and you've posted a lot" fits in when you had hardly talked about it. Like if i then think oh rayn is going to scumread slam for this reason ill do it first because that would be good. Then no im not following thread sentiment im trying to pocket you or w/e. What slam originally said didn't make sense and when I pointed it out he didn't say that I was misunderstanding him so im not going to assume that he ment something else when it is clear to me what he said doesn't make sense. Dude is this your first time being scum? For your next game: you skimmed the thread and picked up on the general few people weakly agreeing with what Rayn mentioned all the time in passing and made a few strong key statements about. This made you think there was good reason and thread sentiment there to get me lynched. Rayn has been dissonant In a way the people at smashboards think is a tell (I am a little surprised none of the newbies except NK picked up on it) because they aren't so good as they think they are. Rayn has talked about me in a post saying I am just shy of confirmed scum and then voted someone else. He was pushing me hard, saying a good bit about NK, and then BAM- votes NK, not me. That's usually considered scummy, but I know what he is doing and besides it isn't actually as scummy as people think. Regardless, it threw you off but set you up with an excuse to vote me. This is also why k am hoping GB is on your team.
How did it throw me off? You are just creating a narrative that fits your world.
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also my two bird with one stone comment was because i also realised it was a pressure vote(to make sure you didn't lurk) AND that you had done something actually scummy
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On September 05 2015 13:55 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2015 13:35 Breshke wrote:On September 05 2015 13:21 Alakaslam wrote:On September 05 2015 13:15 Breshke wrote:On September 05 2015 13:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 05 2015 13:06 Breshke wrote:On September 05 2015 13:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 05 2015 13:00 Breshke wrote:On September 05 2015 12:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 05 2015 12:51 Breshke wrote:
...because rayn has posted shit all about slam without me prodding/asking. that's not actually true. Here are all your posts i can find about slam before i asked about the read On September 05 2015 07:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:yamato i am almost certain Slam is mafia. On September 05 2015 08:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 05 2015 08:56 yamato77 wrote:
I don't think baiting rayn into getting angry is the right way to be playing this D1.
He's been fairly obvious town so far. glowingbear does that as scum though. he banks on me coming to a conclusion "too dumb to be scum", but he's played that card already so it does not work. idk maybe Breshke is town after all, we'll see. I really think Slam is mafia, can you see why? On September 05 2015 09:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 05 2015 09:30 MoosyDoosy wrote:
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This was Breshke's post. In this his tone is sarcastic which matches his general acerbic posting.
I don't see why you would say this:
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He's basically saying he's waiting to see what you guys will do but you're saying that's not what he said?
Also thoughts on the evolution of your read on Breshke. At first you think he's very likely to be Mafia then seem to waffle and say we'll have to see later on. Also around this time you seem to want to kill GlowingBear. I don't like how you give up one thing when GlowingBear starts to seem like a better lynch target with his terrible shenanigans. Here is my read evolution of Breshke: - I saw a post i think makes no sense from town perspective. - I asked him about it. - He answered, and then i said "it does not make any sense from town perspective". - I pushed him further, because i wanted a reaction (a better elaboration, in case he is town) and i wanted to make sure he knows i have my eyes on him because he CAN be lazy as town, but if he is town i don't want to allow him to be lazy, and i wanted him to know he does know that. - He said "okay, my post was indeed fluff, but idk what to expect from people at that point of the game" - That makes sense to me, i didn't even originally think about that. But now that he said it it makes a bit more sense. - Then i responded him basically with saying "if you are town you will play, okay" - After that his posting has been better, so i have a reason to believe he is not in fact mafia -> his behavior now to me makes more sense. I focused onto both Breshke and Glowingbear at the same time. I already knew what i would say regarding how GB answers me. I want to cut out the stupidity from this game. Again, i have not been pushing GB, and again, i don't even care if he is mafia or not, he earned himself a spot in "ignore pile", if someone else wants to figure him out do it. I think it's more likely that he is mafia fro what i have said but i am not sure. My "timing" on Breshke/GB thing has nothing to do with anything for reals. I think the most likely people who are mafia in this game atm are Slam & Noobking. Tell me where you talked about slam so much that I as mafia would have thought voting slam is thread sentiment. I am not talking about thread sentiment and neither is Slam. He is saying that if you are mafia you very well know what i mean and you know it's a reason to call Slam mafia, even without me ACTUALLY saying it. Which i totally agree with it. Im kinda getting confused here. Slam is exactly saying I am mafia because im pushing him and my only reason for pushing him is because i thought it was thread sentiment because you were pushing him On September 05 2015 12:10 Alakaslam wrote:On September 05 2015 10:33 Breshke wrote:On September 05 2015 10:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 05 2015 10:08 Breshke wrote:
SO when noobking said "Does rayn leap to ridiculous conclusions with no basis as either allegiance? Or only when he's Town?"
He was not being serious rayn. IIRC i think he was responding to yamato and he is trying to imply that you can not be town because you are leaping to ridiculous conclusions. This wasn't actually a question about your meta.
The why doesn't he fucking clarify it? Instead he keeps dancing around the issue and saying something else. Did you play in Newbie Student Mafia XIII? Like it was literally what he did all game long. Someone makes a clear point, he just twists the points into oblivion so noone even remembers the original argument anymore. He's like kitaman when scum, except for kitaman is really fucking good at it. He was asking you some question like about what you ment by your own defininition. From my pov he clearly im taking it as he didn't understand that you didnt ralise his post was sarcastic or w/e. If XIII is the one from mooseys sig then yes i was in it. I also want to add that I think the way noobking is acting towards you(rayn) is fairly anti town/scummy. Antagonizing someone isn't pressure. I don't really see what you are doing noobking as pressuring rayn because i don't see how you would be getting an allighnment read from it. That being said i think the slam thing is a really good place to put my vote right now and it kills two birds with one stone ##Vote Alakaslam Mafia. What the hell kind of two birds and no reasoning at all, just sleeping Rayn which Rayn has posted so much he probably thought it was town sentiment. Another reason my Rayn respect is high. Yes, you could be "sheeping me" because you know i think Slam could be mafia for the same reasons you laid out. That's what he is saying, or like, that's his conclusion. Which is not totally out of this world. I see what you are saying but i don't see how the comment that "i think I am following thread sentiment even though its just you and you've posted a lot" fits in when you had hardly talked about it. Like if i then think oh rayn is going to scumread slam for this reason ill do it first because that would be good. Then no im not following thread sentiment im trying to pocket you or w/e. What slam originally said didn't make sense and when I pointed it out he didn't say that I was misunderstanding him so im not going to assume that he ment something else when it is clear to me what he said doesn't make sense. Dude is this your first time being scum? For your next game: you skimmed the thread and picked up on the general few people weakly agreeing with what Rayn mentioned all the time in passing and made a few strong key statements about. This made you think there was good reason and thread sentiment there to get me lynched. Rayn has been dissonant In a way the people at smashboards think is a tell (I am a little surprised none of the newbies except NK picked up on it) because they aren't so good as they think they are. Rayn has talked about me in a post saying I am just shy of confirmed scum and then voted someone else. He was pushing me hard, saying a good bit about NK, and then BAM- votes NK, not me. That's usually considered scummy, but I know what he is doing and besides it isn't actually as scummy as people think. Regardless, it threw you off but set you up with an excuse to vote me. This is also why k am hoping GB is on your team. How did it throw me off? You are just creating a narrative that fits your world. It threw you off because in skimming you thought Rayn had not pushed me much because in his actual posts WHOLLY about me, he didn't- and he voted noob But he actually was pushing me a lot He has said so himself because he knows he did. You failed to see that though; you have not been reading and were willing to vote for pretty foul reasons when there were reasons based on posting in the thread.
I linked the posts where rayn talked about you before I started asking about it so no you are wrong or lying
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The last three are irrelevant to what you are trying to say because they came after my vote.
The 98% one isn't about you and another one where he asks cake if she thinks anyone else is mafia could be about you but i don't see why you include it. You also ignore the fact that one of them is him replying to me because im asking about the read.
I don't just suddenly decide to sheep him, i noticed him and yamato talking about you see you have 1 post and then I understand why. Also as I said ive seen scum be excited to play then see they rolled scum and can not be fucked and all the excitement is gone.
But you refused to even consider that situation because you just want to call me mafia because you are mafia.
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On September 05 2015 14:17 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2015 13:00 Breshke wrote:On September 05 2015 12:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 05 2015 12:51 Breshke wrote:
...because rayn has posted shit all about slam without me prodding/asking. that's not actually true. Here are all your posts i can find about slam before i asked about the read On September 05 2015 07:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:yamato i am almost certain Slam is mafia. On September 05 2015 08:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 05 2015 08:56 yamato77 wrote:
I don't think baiting rayn into getting angry is the right way to be playing this D1.
He's been fairly obvious town so far. glowingbear does that as scum though. he banks on me coming to a conclusion "too dumb to be scum", but he's played that card already so it does not work. idk maybe Breshke is town after all, we'll see. I really think Slam is mafia, can you see why? On September 05 2015 09:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 05 2015 09:30 MoosyDoosy wrote:On September 05 2015 07:46 Breshke wrote:
So do we just sit back and wait for the yamato/rayn magic to happen? This was Breshke's post. In this his tone is sarcastic which matches his general acerbic posting. I don't see why you would say this: On September 05 2015 08:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 05 2015 08:22 MoosyDoosy wrote:On September 05 2015 08:19 MoosyDoosy wrote:On September 05 2015 08:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 05 2015 08:07 MoosyDoosy wrote:On September 05 2015 07:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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I want him to answer me.
I dislike Breshke the most.
The "do we just wait yamato/rayn magic to happen" is out of place as he doesn't even think either of us is necessarily town and idk.. it's jsut totally out of place, the whole post. Like is anyone even suggesting anything like that? Or like following your suggestion that "we should destroy mafia rayn"... Like that doesn't mean we will jsut own the thread and noone else has nothing to say about anything.
meh.. idk how to explain, the post is just terrible, doesn't make any sense and the timing goes along the same path. I feel like it's NAI. It's probably a mix of pun and an observation. If yo uboth are town then you both are going to show something for it. and if u don't then it's an easy way to make some reads off of making an inner circle early on yeah? just some thoughts Of course we are. The reason i am reading yamato town is because i talked with him on TS last night and he has rolled mafia for like 5 games in a row or something and i told him "hey let's wreck mafia if we are both town, it would be nice to play with you when you are actually town and play". He basically promised to play in his first post, because he seems interested in the game and happy. If it's a fake post then i will 100% figure it out based on his play AFTERWARDS, but as per now there is zero reason to think yamato is mafia. I don't really get what you are saying here. Like are you suggesting posts that do not make any sense and do not help town find mafia are not scummy? Because in my opinion they are. Again there was no reason for him to make the post from town perspective, hell he himself clarified that already. Like obviously he is not 100% mafia, which is why i am not voting for him, but that was a HUGE red flag for me. So if Breshke is town he better shape up, because he is actually a decent player when he plays, and i expect everyone who is town to play. What he did so far is far from decent. Superbia can go to townpile aswell. l0l ok. thnx for the background story which helps make ur and yamato's posts make sense. and no im not saying what ur saying doesn't make sense. what i AM saying is that ur nitpicking over a post. because i actually thought that u and yamato associating with each other was a bit strange and i was looking to see what u guys did further. I always nitpick over posts. That's how you find scum. And yes the latter part of your post is reasonable, that's how i would think people react. It's not how Breshke reacted though... He's basically saying he's waiting to see what you guys will do but you're saying that's not what he said? Also thoughts on the evolution of your read on Breshke. At first you think he's very likely to be Mafia then seem to waffle and say we'll have to see later on. Also around this time you seem to want to kill GlowingBear. I don't like how you give up one thing when GlowingBear starts to seem like a better lynch target with his terrible shenanigans. Here is my read evolution of Breshke: - I saw a post i think makes no sense from town perspective. - I asked him about it. - He answered, and then i said "it does not make any sense from town perspective". - I pushed him further, because i wanted a reaction (a better elaboration, in case he is town) and i wanted to make sure he knows i have my eyes on him because he CAN be lazy as town, but if he is town i don't want to allow him to be lazy, and i wanted him to know he does know that. - He said "okay, my post was indeed fluff, but idk what to expect from people at that point of the game" - That makes sense to me, i didn't even originally think about that. But now that he said it it makes a bit more sense. - Then i responded him basically with saying "if you are town you will play, okay" - After that his posting has been better, so i have a reason to believe he is not in fact mafia -> his behavior now to me makes more sense. I focused onto both Breshke and Glowingbear at the same time. I already knew what i would say regarding how GB answers me. I want to cut out the stupidity from this game. Again, i have not been pushing GB, and again, i don't even care if he is mafia or not, he earned himself a spot in "ignore pile", if someone else wants to figure him out do it. I think it's more likely that he is mafia fro what i have said but i am not sure. My "timing" on Breshke/GB thing has nothing to do with anything for reals. I think the most likely people who are mafia in this game atm are Slam & Noobking. Tell me where you talked about slam so much that I as mafia would have thought voting slam is thread sentiment. I found 9 clear posts to your 3. Slander. My vote isn't moving anywhere
At best you have 4. (see previous post)
You be the slandering one m8
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Slam you didn't even read the posts you linked
On September 05 2015 10:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2015 10:23 n00bKing wrote:On September 05 2015 10:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 05 2015 10:08 Breshke wrote:
Is the slam thing that he was here at the start of the game seeming excited then just decided to leave? yes, it makes him like 95% mafia. And what's the mafia likelihood on the player that you're voting against instead of him? lol 98%
this one for example. He isn't talking about you he is talking about noobking. But thanks for giving me the finger.
Noobking I understand it isn't going anywhere so do you want to tell me your read on slam.
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