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Fidei86
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- I still think it's Superbia 90%, Slam 5%, others 5%. Roughly. - We need to hear more from Superbia, because if he's town he's throwing the game. - I want to hear more from scott about Slam's push on him. - We need to do our best to keep the thread going, and I'll try, but I'm busy at work and IRL atm. | ||
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On September 18 2015 06:40 scott31337 wrote: So I've been really swamped at work - networks going down all the time I have to babysit for - so haven't had much time to play. I see Slam's thought process - and I've done a number of "Ctrl F" filter finds this time and posted all of my thoughts. So just to clarify- Slam looked worse until he actually posted his AFK reasoning AND out'ed of the other game that I know he wanted to play in due to who was in the game. I saw the /out - I waited for him to say it in the thread (So I don't get any crap for OGI) and then I replied to it and it all made sense. I re-read Superbia's, Slam's, Fidei's and GB's filter - I came to the conclusion that Superbia was scummier with his voting, interactions with GB/CopCake, the waffle on both - confirmed town posting, etc. Slam looked more natural, but you would be the first one I'd review if the game made it to LYLO and somehow Superbia is town (which is quite doubtful). I'll try to get some more time on later. Scott - one thing that bugs me slightly about the above is that you've said you read everybody's filters, but your output from it seems pretty slim - you don't even talk about me at all! Care to explain? | ||
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Fidei86
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At the moment, the biggest scum tells on both of you are that you AFK'd more or less immediately after the Cake check was revealed. This is very, very, very, very, very, very scummy, particularly in circumstances where four players (me, NM, scott and MD), all of whom were town reading each other, said that they would lynch you in order. I am town and I really want to win this. If you are town, you are letting town sleep-walk into a loss. If you are town, please come back and answer the many questions that have been raised of you over the last 20 pages or so. Please explain which of the other players you think are scummy, and explain why you are actually not mafia. I still owe a filter dive on scott. I will do that this evening, I double promise. But this is on Superbia and Slam to pick town up, if they're town. Please!!! | ||
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Weird thread entry. On September 05 2015 09:00 scott31337 wrote: Fucking town - I wanted to be mafia with Fidei and someone else - We'd bus the shit out of #3 and claim our victory. Okay, so these aren't always alignment indicative. In fact, they probably usually aren't. This jarred me though because Scott and I have been town together twice, but the second time he was utterly useless (sorry bud, but you were). It's not like we've played together loads, or that our games have been great, or that we've really interacted that much. Early pocket, possibly? Early weird read on GB: GB smoking/drinking again - and follow his opposite (#279)Scum reads GB, but votes n00b, without really scum reading n00b at all: ##Vote N00bking GB probably mafia too for his - GB thing and defending Post #631 is all over the place. He basically gives two good reasons to scum read Slam, but then town reads him. He continued to vote n00b without offering a read on him. Emphasises that he is scum reading GB, but continues to vote n00b. His list post here really is interesting: On September 06 2015 03:14 scott31337 wrote: MoosyDoosy - town, wants to solve game n00bKing - mafia - CoughingHydra - null - even posted? CopCake - slight townlean trying to solve Alakaslam - really posty - tinfoil like Breshke - actually want to win or change it up? Fidei86 - null - posts? scott31337 - town Superbia - a little townlean from what I read earlier started well died off GlowingBear - OMGUS smoking crack voting me - mafia lean - not interested in solving boxerfred - no posts? yamato77 - townlean - doing his yamato town "meta" Breshke - townlean - but posting wayyy too much - laid off or changing it up - townlean not D1 lynch raynpelikoneet - town hero as usual - <3 Time to make sure I did not forget anybody So he town reads Cake as "trying to solve"?? All I remember her doing is yelling at people and buddying with rayn. He then goes on a run of posts calling GB mafia. Next interesting post is this: On September 06 2015 03:53 scott31337 wrote: I was posting my townie thoughts along the way and adding my thoughts and quotes up in notepad. Do you have any specific questions for me? Is n00bking toast and you are bussing him now? What about boxerfred, who's only made one post, why do you mention nothing of him? Asking questions of a mafia buddy is pretty standard play, but the questions here are quite barbed. However, the next post (#650) he CONTINUES to have n00b as his scum read, depite having not really mentioned him at all. Next interesting post is #845, where he pings me out for numbering my post references. I found that super weird. At 21:27BST he votes for GB. He's the second one onto the wagon, after Slam who'd been on it for ages. This was early. It was at least half an hour before the Yamato wagon thing started. Honestly, if this was a bus, it was SUPER risky. Scott started momentum that later came to fruition. This post is interesting too: On September 07 2015 06:19 scott31337 wrote: It's a little more than OMGUS - He calls Rayn mafia for really bad reasons - His reads are basically opposite of mine (except for Noobking, but then he votes me instead) - a lot of one liners for a 6 page filter/etc. So I ask why Scott is voting GB. These are all really good reasons to be voting GB. And his response really gets the GB wagon going, in circumstancs where it wasn't before. Yes, this could be a mad bus strat. But I don't see why mafia would bother this early. Realistically, mafia don't have to sell out that hard to achieve the n00b lynch. A little more pressure on n00b and they make it, I think. However, he *is* still town-reading Cake for basically no reason: I think Copcake's town and am not seeing the reasoning for him. Similar response in #1170. But I'm not sure why he has a town read on me at this point? If he does, he hasn't said it up till now. This reasoning for moving onto n00b from GB is pretty towny: On September 07 2015 07:28 scott31337 wrote: Done - Can't let Cake get lynched If you're mafia, you can easily just say "no lyncherino doctorino". But saying that you're doing it in order to save your mafia buddy? I dunno. This would be weird. And it does fit into his Cake town read. Not going to copy and paste scott's post on GB's claim. It all makes sense, and sort of accords with what I thought: "probs fake, but it'll sort itself out". I thought this post was weird: I haven't rolled mafia in how many games? six or seven? - and from what I've learned, I want to again sometime. Probable typo, but still... After Yamato dies, scott flips his read on boxerfred, and says he could sheep his read. He then starts saying he could lynch me, for no given reason. He does later give a reason though. His response to MD's case on Cake is basically to deflect off it "case is okay - rather lynch GB". But hang on a sec, now he has a town read on Cake? Huh? On September 11 2015 02:54 scott31337 wrote: My thoughts for now - Superbia-my #1 Scum right now - very little followup - not voting the right wagons - first vote for n00bking - beyond any magic blue work - want to lynch tomorrow MoosyDoosy - His Night 2 is espically weird - he thinks rayn's claim is fake - gets called out for bluehunting (which I sure thought he was doing as well) and then backpedals quite hard on it. My gut calls him #2 right now. boxerfred-quiet and in the stands - although has some good posts and points - just above null. Breshke-I've like his play n2 with moosy - trying to prod and get answers out of him - bad voting d1. He'd be above boxer. CopCake - I just want this guy to do some more as town if he is - what are your thoughts on everybody? slight townlean, please help  Fidei86 - Helped get GB lynched, but just has been a little off - maybe he's overworked like he said in a few messages? townlean Alakaslam - did the super phat bus on GB (voted first on him day 1, never left until he claimed, was suspicious of him all game) or he's town - not lynching anytime soon. raynpelikoneet-Da man - I will keep the town in line and accomplish victory for us in your name! Oh and IRL excuse - I'll be traveling out of town tomorrow/Friday and then a pool party afterwards - so expect very little posting. And now I'm a town read again? Huh? And he wants to lynch Superbia out of literally nowhere. Post #2292 gives me pause. Scott sheeps my "Superbia/Bresh fight was pointless" read. His read on Cake shifts like three times IN THE SAME POST. He starts off saying "CC not confirmed town, better fish to fry", but then puts Cake in his town team? He's still defending Cake here: On September 12 2015 18:01 scott31337 wrote: Moosy we are not lynching Copcake tomorrow so tell me your #2 when I wake up tomorrow. CopCake Alakaslam Superbia boxerfred Each tell me your #1 lynch. MoosyDoosy, CopCake, Alakaslam, Superbia, boxerfred Superbia (2): scott31337, Breshke Breshke (2): Fidei86, NocturneMage MoosyDoosy (0): Alakaslam Not Informing (5): MoosyDoosy, CopCake, Alakaslam, Superbia, boxerfred Mafia love to wait on their vote BTW This next post makes no sense to me if scott is mafia with Cake: On September 13 2015 03:56 scott31337 wrote: Let me try to explain this a little better - so your voting speaks town - but your talking does not - and it's not because of ESL (English as a second language) - You should just say what's on your mind as town but you don't. You have to be prodded for reads every time and even that does not work. When I posted my townteam - "CopCake/Slam/Fidei/scott/nm" it's what I'm feeling at the moment (that's not in order btw, if you want order it'd be like "Scott/Slam/NM/Fidei/CopCake" - You're my weakest townread, but it is one, basically because the others are scummier. Does that make sense? Why would Cake shift her vote onto Scott, unless they were mad into their bus strat? Cake's point on scott was legit, but why would mafia make it? #2438, Scott is back on the boxerfred wagon, despite having repeatedly read him as town. He also wants to save me over BF? And how does this make sense: On September 13 2015 07:24 scott31337 wrote: I think boxer is worse out of the two. Copcake calling me mafia and voting seems unnatural for the reasons (I believe because I put him in the weak side of the town circle, but didn't understand this and I explained it) He thinks BF is worse than Cake, despite these reasons why Cake is bad? And no reasons for BF? Here scott continues to wrestle with Cake's alignment. On September 14 2015 07:30 scott31337 wrote: Breshke should die, but just in case he does not and I do - CopCake - Please just fucking help, frustrating Superbia - think you are town but the "sicklucker confirmed town" shit is bullshit. Stop. Help us out today. MoosyDoosy - He brought a better D3 and gets a few points for sure - I went to a null on him though for unexplained reasons NocturneMage - He's brought his game up tremendously if he's mafia unlike his last game - when he's free he acts town feels town. Alakaslam - Phat magic bus theory or town but You can't ride it forever either. Fidei86 - He's been a little off/overworked but pretty sure he's town Breshke- 99% sure he's the doctor and probably dead with no CC After the NM reveal, scott says that he thought I was the cop. That actually makes a bunch of sense - he had been soft defending me for meta reasons for a while. He later says he wants to filter dive Cake, but I'm not sure why anyone would bother as NM's claim was like 100%. After that he starts pushing Superbia. But yeah, that makes sense. He asks Superbia to give other reads, which I agree with. He also continues to defend Slam, which is going to make it difficult if he gets to 2v1 with me and him. He's checked out a bit recently. IDK. TL;DR Scott *could* be town. But there are just too many weird things that wouldn't make sense from a mafia perspective. The GB was 100% a bus. His interactions with Cake were weird, but understandable from a town perspective. | ||
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Fidei86
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LOL. Should read Scott *could* be mafia. Derp. | ||
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I actually think it's more likely to be scott than Slam, honestly. | ||
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2. Your reads on GB were weird. 3. You afk'd once we got the check on Cake. 4. You have no scum reads even though we're literally about to lynch you. | ||
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