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MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
September 08 2015 20:54 GMT
#1681
On September 09 2015 05:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2015 05:48 MoosyDoosy wrote:
also @Superbia:

I already explained this to Fidei. My read progression was as follows:
1. n00bKing is town.
2. Everyone scum reads n00bKing.
3. Me: ???...maybe I'm wrong
4. n00bKing posts more of his usual stuff
5. Me: n00bKing is town.

I can prove the bolded wrong.

i can prove the bolded right.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
September 08 2015 20:55 GMT
#1683
i'm not going to talk about n00bking with u rayn. bottom line on that matter was that you were tunneled and wrong and i was right.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
September 08 2015 20:58 GMT
#1687
On September 09 2015 05:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2015 05:54 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On September 09 2015 05:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 09 2015 05:48 MoosyDoosy wrote:
also @Superbia:

I already explained this to Fidei. My read progression was as follows:
1. n00bKing is town.
2. Everyone scum reads n00bKing.
3. Me: ???...maybe I'm wrong
4. n00bKing posts more of his usual stuff
5. Me: n00bKing is town.

I can prove the bolded wrong.

i can prove the bolded right.

please do. you literally said "noobking is making for a big case which he would do right now as town" for like the fucking last 24h of the time. You then said he could be mafia when i pointed out there was never a case.

You are lying.

no i am not lying. n00bKing was mafia if he didn't give any reads and tried to solely continue with his useless ego contest. when he is mafia he uses a townie cover (most of the time me) and stirs up chaos behind it. he gave clear reads behind it. also, his big case normally comes at the end of night 1 because he's died 66% of the time on N1 as town. but u guys lynched him on D1 l0l. don't tell me u know what n00bKing does because I DO.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
September 08 2015 21:03 GMT
#1690
On September 09 2015 06:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2015 05:58 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On September 09 2015 05:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 09 2015 05:54 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On September 09 2015 05:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 09 2015 05:48 MoosyDoosy wrote:
also @Superbia:

I already explained this to Fidei. My read progression was as follows:
1. n00bKing is town.
2. Everyone scum reads n00bKing.
3. Me: ???...maybe I'm wrong
4. n00bKing posts more of his usual stuff
5. Me: n00bKing is town.

I can prove the bolded wrong.

i can prove the bolded right.

please do. you literally said "noobking is making for a big case which he would do right now as town" for like the fucking last 24h of the time. You then said he could be mafia when i pointed out there was never a case.

You are lying.

no i am not lying. n00bKing was mafia if he didn't give any reads and tried to solely continue with his useless ego contest. when he is mafia he uses a townie cover (most of the time me) and stirs up chaos behind it. he gave clear reads behind it. also, his big case normally comes at the end of night 1 because he's died 66% of the time on N1 as town. but u guys lynched him on D1 l0l. don't tell me u know what n00bKing does because I DO.

sorry mate but that was exactly what he was doing all D1-.

look at his mafia game and this game. in his mafia game he BASICALLY did NOTHING in terms of reads and the ones he gave were based solely on meta. now look at this one. he gave reads based off of thread evidence.

like sure he may be egotistical and will continue with his ego contest but that's n00bKing for you. like that is also a town read despite how you guys try to make it not to be.

ego + no reads / reads not based off thread evidence = mafia!n00bKing
ego + reads based off of thread evidence = town!n00bKing
ego + reads based off of thread evidence + big case at N1 / D2 = confirmed town!n00bKing.

i've been telling u this whole time but n00bKing's ego is a GIVEN. HE WILL HAVE IT EVERY GAME. what u have to do is read around it.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
September 08 2015 21:04 GMT
#1693
On September 09 2015 06:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
And you literally said "he is working on a big case right now".
Now you are saying "it will come at the end of N1".


ahhahahahh

okay guys scum is just trolling in this game rn.

yes because he works on the case but POSTS IT AT END OF N1. look at his towngames l0l.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
September 08 2015 21:05 GMT
#1694
On September 09 2015 06:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2015 05:58 MoosyDoosy wrote:
but u guys lynched him on D1 l0l. don't tell me u know what n00bKing does because I DO.

And don't you fucking dare to pull this shit on me or anyone because you LITERALLY misread him 100% in the last game when like 50% of the townies alive correctly read him as scum.

You are shit at reading him,. Your read on him is shit in this game. Your reads are shit.
You are mafia.

You die on D3.

-shrugs- let's see who dies at the end of the game.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
September 08 2015 21:07 GMT
#1695
On September 09 2015 06:03 NocturneMage wrote:
that aside md....

if there is no parallel game where copcake has a history of bussing early I have to assume she bussed too early for a normal mafia play. that is unlikely.

the only other way she'd be more likely mafia is poe. like the remaining players bleed town or something.

so this said, can you explain looking at my filter dive, the motivation for copcake drawing attention to a scum partner

(1) prematurely in the cycle
(2) calling him out for claiming too late and not giving time to think
(3) voting a partner over a mislynch that nearly everyone was on board with

this is what doesn't add up

ok so i mistook copcake for someone else. that is my bad.

take the filter dive again. look at who she townreads and who she scumreads and then try to make that argument again.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
September 08 2015 22:00 GMT
#1725
On September 09 2015 06:55 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2015 05:48 MoosyDoosy wrote:
also @Superbia:

I already explained this to Fidei. My read progression was as follows:
1. n00bKing is town.
2. Everyone scum reads n00bKing.
3. Me: ???...maybe I'm wrong
4. n00bKing posts more of his usual stuff
5. Me: n00bKing is town.


But what happened at EoD when you were iffy again? What made you want to sheep rayn knowing full well he was hard reading noobking scum.

i was willing to sheep rayn other than n00bking.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
September 08 2015 22:06 GMT
#1728
On September 09 2015 07:02 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2015 07:00 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On September 09 2015 06:55 Superbia wrote:
On September 09 2015 05:48 MoosyDoosy wrote:
also @Superbia:

I already explained this to Fidei. My read progression was as follows:
1. n00bKing is town.
2. Everyone scum reads n00bKing.
3. Me: ???...maybe I'm wrong
4. n00bKing posts more of his usual stuff
5. Me: n00bKing is town.


But what happened at EoD when you were iffy again? What made you want to sheep rayn knowing full well he was hard reading noobking scum.

i was willing to sheep rayn other than n00bking.


So why not just say you want to kill GB.

because rayn switched off of gb. i was completely willing to vote him had rayn decided to stay on him. i was also panicking at that point because i had no idea how to read gb's claim at that point and decided to sheep. one thing that i was not going to sheep was n00bKing tho for reasons I've already stated.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
September 08 2015 22:11 GMT
#1731
On September 09 2015 07:10 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2015 07:06 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On September 09 2015 07:02 Superbia wrote:
On September 09 2015 07:00 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On September 09 2015 06:55 Superbia wrote:
On September 09 2015 05:48 MoosyDoosy wrote:
also @Superbia:

I already explained this to Fidei. My read progression was as follows:
1. n00bKing is town.
2. Everyone scum reads n00bKing.
3. Me: ???...maybe I'm wrong
4. n00bKing posts more of his usual stuff
5. Me: n00bKing is town.


But what happened at EoD when you were iffy again? What made you want to sheep rayn knowing full well he was hard reading noobking scum.

i was willing to sheep rayn other than n00bking.


So why not just say you want to kill GB.

because rayn switched off of gb. i was completely willing to vote him had rayn decided to stay on him. i was also panicking at that point because i had no idea how to read gb's claim at that point and decided to sheep. one thing that i was not going to sheep was n00bKing tho for reasons I've already stated.


Meh. You did kind of defend noobking kind of EoD. Why did you not try to steer rayn away from noobking at that moment?

look back at EoD. When rayn made it clear he was switching off of gb and onto n00bKing i told him not to. but that was like at 2 min to deadline l0l.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
September 09 2015 13:08 GMT
#1746
On September 09 2015 18:47 boxerfred wrote:
I won't have much time for today, close to none. I think lynching between GB and rayn will give us one scum, the Doctor is lost either way then. I don't like trading Doctor for one scum member if it's not for RB or GF. So yeah.

That's my logic. So whoever is not fine with a GB lynch will have to heavily explain why. That would be MoosyDoosy who I think is scum anyways. Also, Superbia didn't cast his vote so far although being in the thread and making long posts. While I have a slight scum lean on Fidei and pushed in that direction, I actually re-thought a bit and I feel like Fidei is not the lynch for the next days. I really wanna see GB + MD flip before I lynch someone else.

Thing is I did not look heavily into MoosyDoosy thus far. However since my time to play the game is really limited, I think I'll set "Looking into MD" as a top priority.

...
"MoosyDoosy is scum but I actually haven't looked at him closely. But I still want to lynch him. By the way I'll be really busy so I'll just say that looking into him is a top priority but I still want to lynch him."

You've been accusing me all game of doing drive-by posts when I've actually been questioning people as one of the most active posters?? You're the one doing drive-by posts here l0l.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
September 09 2015 15:13 GMT
#1750
On September 09 2015 23:21 Fidei86 wrote:
Moosy, are you still of the view that DESPITE the doc claim / counter-claim, you still think it's MORE likely that cake is mafia than GB or rayn? Or is that not how you view it?

I know we went over this yesterday, but the longer this goes on, the weirder it gets.

-.- i actually think NocturneMage has a good point. Despite how weak CopCake's filter is, it is weird if she's bussing GB that early. I am just waiting for GB's flip which is unfortunately most likely Mafia.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
September 09 2015 16:19 GMT
#1753
On September 10 2015 00:45 NocturneMage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 09 2015 05:41 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On September 09 2015 05:37 NocturneMage wrote:
hey md, I have a question for you......I took a crazy dive into cake's filter because her gameplay is so scummy - you are okay with a gb lynch, and given claim analysis gb flips mafia, that is the world for now.

what is mafia motivation for cake to make a sick bus on gb for cred? that was theory 2 and I evaluated the areas where she could be bussing, but the points (mafia motivation) don't add up.

I typed out a long post. hold on.

It's not even a "sick bus". Look through her filter. Literally all her posts throughout this game have been weak cases designed to scum read everyone. The only person she's basically been buddying with is rayn as he's the town leader. At this point it's not even a "sick bus." She's just scum reading everyone, posts little, tries to rile up others, and comes off looking townie because people think she's trying to do work in the thread and there's no way to associate with others because she's already scum read them (besides rayn).


Show nested quote +
On September 09 2015 05:50 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On September 09 2015 05:48 NocturneMage wrote:
On September 09 2015 05:41 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On September 09 2015 05:37 NocturneMage wrote:
hey md, I have a question for you......I took a crazy dive into cake's filter because her gameplay is so scummy - you are okay with a gb lynch, and given claim analysis gb flips mafia, that is the world for now.

what is mafia motivation for cake to make a sick bus on gb for cred? that was theory 2 and I evaluated the areas where she could be bussing, but the points (mafia motivation) don't add up.

I typed out a long post. hold on.

It's not even a "sick bus". Look through her filter. Literally all her posts throughout this game have been weak cases designed to scum read everyone. The only person she's basically been buddying with is rayn as he's the town leader. At this point it's not even a "sick bus." She's just scum reading everyone, posts little, tries to rile up others, and comes off looking townie because people think she's trying to do work in the thread and there's no way to associate with others because she's already scum read them (besides rayn).


you misunderstood.

I don't mean copcake bussing rayn.
I mean copcake bussing gb. I know where you are getting the sentiment of copcake buddying to rayn but that's not what I'm discussing.

I agree her list post is overall terrible. I agree her overall gameplay has been terrible. however I'm not debating this.

that wasnt' up for debate.

that's why I looked at her even closer because we're in the world where gb flips red because it's generally NOT likely scum bus d1.

but I am asking you to consider the mitigating factors that don't make sense from a mafia perspective.

namely what I bolded in my wall of text.

yes i was talking about copcake busing gb. look at her filter. she literally scum read or null read everyone except for the town leader. how are you supposed to make an association off of that l0l.


Show nested quote +
On September 09 2015 06:07 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On September 09 2015 06:03 NocturneMage wrote:
that aside md....

if there is no parallel game where copcake has a history of bussing early I have to assume she bussed too early for a normal mafia play. that is unlikely.

the only other way she'd be more likely mafia is poe. like the remaining players bleed town or something.

so this said, can you explain looking at my filter dive, the motivation for copcake drawing attention to a scum partner

(1) prematurely in the cycle
(2) calling him out for claiming too late and not giving time to think
(3) voting a partner over a mislynch that nearly everyone was on board with

this is what doesn't add up

ok so i mistook copcake for someone else. that is my bad.

take the filter dive again. look at who she townreads and who she scumreads and then try to make that argument again.


You said this not once, not twice but three times when I repeated the mitigating factors multiple times.

Show nested quote +
On September 10 2015 00:13 MoosyDoosy wrote:
-.- i actually think NocturneMage has a good point. Despite how weak CopCake's filter is, it is weird if she's bussing GB that early. I am just waiting for GB's flip which is unfortunately most likely Mafia.


What changed? Why is my argument only valid now? I did not add anything to my argument since yesterday.


Nothing changed. I acknowledge that it's weird that CopCake would have pointed out GB that early although her points against him were very weak in the first place and might as well not be there.

Things that I still dislike about this whole affair is that she hasn't refuted any points that I presented, dodges around questions aimed at her, solely spouts rayn sentiment, and is basically relying on rayn to stay alive at this point in time.

Despite how she may have pointed out GB earlier, that's still just one weak point against a whole host of others. The only reason that she's probably not refuting any points and having thread presence is because doing so might just incriminate her more and she's relying on rayn anyway.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
September 09 2015 16:21 GMT
#1754
What you're presenting is just unreasonable NocturneMage. Just because of GB flipping Mafia you're going to clear ALL suspicion on a person? Like I guess, if flip WIFOM is your cup of tea.

:/ It's weird to drop all suspicion on a person based on just one observation compared to a whole bunch on the other side of the picture. Especially on something like flip WIFOM.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
September 09 2015 19:14 GMT
#1765
On September 10 2015 01:50 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2015 01:48 boxerfred wrote:
On September 09 2015 23:12 Alakaslam wrote:
Boxerfred doing the same textbook scum game with Moosy

Care to explain?

Dang bro, you so fast you faster than light

Anyway, you are being wishy washy about Moosy in exactly the same way fidei was wishy washy about CopCake.

Then suddenly cry SCUM! This is actually scummy behavior itself.

You forgot accusing people falsely of things that they're actually doing.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
September 09 2015 19:23 GMT
#1766
On September 10 2015 02:54 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2015 02:50 scott31337 wrote:
On September 10 2015 01:49 Alakaslam wrote:
Ask me

Stuff


How are your feelings with fidei? Do you think he's town? I think he pays a lot of nai and repeats himself a lot and not posting a lot of information.

I had downgraded him to null. I will look into him, super, and boxer on D3.

do you still hold by your original scum team prediction?
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
September 09 2015 21:21 GMT
#1773
On September 10 2015 05:59 Superbia wrote:
GB you should probably make like a big post-flip post if you're flipping town. I think it should not be too hard for you to find some mafia from your perspective/position (besides rayn).

It won't matter either way.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
September 09 2015 23:51 GMT
#1795
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"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
September 09 2015 23:53 GMT
#1796
On September 10 2015 06:55 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2015 04:14 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On September 10 2015 01:50 Alakaslam wrote:
On September 10 2015 01:48 boxerfred wrote:
On September 09 2015 23:12 Alakaslam wrote:
Boxerfred doing the same textbook scum game with Moosy

Care to explain?

Dang bro, you so fast you faster than light

Anyway, you are being wishy washy about Moosy in exactly the same way fidei was wishy washy about CopCake.

Then suddenly cry SCUM! This is actually scummy behavior itself.

You forgot accusing people falsely of things that they're actually doing.

This statement is a contradiction?

Or perhaps you are saying I am in a contradiction of this sort?

I am saying boxerfred keeps accusing me of weird things like saying i'm posting "drive-by" posts when he's the one doing that while i've been questioning people.

but this is unimportant right now. will read thru filters and re-analyze. losing rayn for GB was a shitty trade despite how tunneled rayn is rite now. i would like to hear his thoughts.
"Just a second too late rsoultin :D" - My 4k Guardian post
MoosyDoosy
Profile Joined November 2014
United States4519 Posts
September 10 2015 00:01 GMT
#1800
what rayn says. if you claim here then you let mafia know the power roles. on the other hand if you stay silent you buy yourself 2 more nights including this one minimum.

rayn are you not going to post until end of night or can you share some thoughts now?
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